:)

Nope Both waterborne and the raft are better films about killer algae

The raft is a segment in creepshow2 btw

I’ve seen a more exciting one on PBS.

I didn't see why, especially given how precious the algae was, he used all of each sample. Why not use part of a sample, see if it works, etc? Rather than 'dump it all in......welp, that didn't work'

agreed his character was pretty irrelevant he could've been more and just died to save them

this^^^

@@Akaneblaze1345 Honestly having him participate in the climax would have gone a long way in making him feel relevant. He doesn't even have to be the one to die in the end. Have him go on the first run to get the oxygen and be the one to fall and drop the cannister. Then, he volunteers to sacrifice himself to get the second one since he screwed up the first time but Zoe talks him out of it and goes instead. Just have him do something--anything!

I actually thought he would be the one to fix the oxygen issue by making something to remove carbon dioxide since he is an engineer. I agree that there was really no point to his character.

main problem for me was that zoey wanted to save michael at all cost, thing is when david and zoey where returning, and david said "go ahead" she didnt even hesitate to stay and help, and in the end when she died i was "you didnt want someone to die, so yeah you diying instead" and well... michael is waste of oxigen

I Agree if she sang the lyrics to cardi b's wap..it would of been far more entertaining than this boorish attempt to be a tear jerker

Sing a happy song, sing a happy sooonggg, come along everybody and sing along

She even had artificial gravity for “cups,” song.

yup, a la pitch perfect

😂

Stuff like this happens in real life. One pilot in real life cut off a good engine and crashed a plane killing everyone on board. Chernobyl was caused by human error too. Remember those fires in California many were caused by humans.

@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 people learn from mistakes tho. Its safe to assume people won’t take Unnecessary Risks

@@tfyk5623 Some mistakes you can't learn from.

@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 its pretty easy too have a pre flight check hell they do it rn

I like your idea. Hyperion is the villain and they just want to recreate the situation where 4 men got stuck on a boat and have no food so one must die for all. Doing this research on earth would violate tons of laws so they push people out to space.

It didn't make a sacrifice - it was sacrificed.

🤣🤣🤣👌🏻

That'll show him

@@steveguy3 lol right

Makes lots of sense for the only doctor to sacrifice herself so the whiny botanist can have nothing to do for 2 years.

@@aluisious he had a family waiting for her at home whereas she didn’t so

Exactly. I really need to know how tf he got screwed into that space. Someone locked him on the ship

Yeah kill the only medic that makes sense.

Yeah, when the movie I ended, I said, "That's it?!" because it didn't feel like an ending. It felt like the middle and what happens to these three now since the mission would surely have shifted from science to survival. They hadn't explained why there was a stowaway--I honestly thought maybe I missed something when they were interrogating him about how he got in there. I'd like to know how Toni Collette's character was feeling since things went so poorly. I bet she kind of regrets not hitting abort when she knew something was wrong and now the mission is a loss, one person is dead (although wouldn't they ideally still need her suit? Were they going to retrieve it later? Why not let her back in to die?), and now the rest of them might also die because Toni Collette didn't go with her gut and abort.

@@fredvalencia2205 ^sense.

@@crazylikeafox1163 the station was open. She put the oxygen tank in. But she already received a lethal dose of radiation. Would you spend your last minutes in a metal can or would you die looking at the stars?

I didn't know that was Mars. Lol

@@peachesmay4948 yeah you can see it has a red tinge.

@@Simon0 I didn’t know she was dying in that scene. Not until I saw the video “Ending Explained “.

She was turning into dust if you have noticed and therefore not her but her ashes was going there. The ending was very emotional though!

Worst film I have watched in sumtime. Why make a tragedy when not based on a true story. Come on man we need a feel good movie. I'm off to watch the Martian or gravity

The moment the CO2 scrubber failed, and they said it was a matter of Oxygen to get replaced was the WTF moment to me, since one has nothing to do with the other

Yeah, I thought that too!

​@@EliteGeeks maybe just exhaust the CO2 atmosphere overboard. Conveniently there's tons of liquid oxygen in a rocket, just refill the atmosphere back up.

That's because you're conditioned by Hollywood. Not everyone is evil and not every movie needs twists like this.

@Zachary Scheffler no

All those entry level jobs working on spaceships on launch day. No one bothers to account for anyone.

He says that he thought he was "clipped in," so he fell while he was working in the ship which knocked him unconscious

If he was behind a panel he would been dead at take off. And probably done damage to the ship. So many holes from the get go. The movie sucked

The movie explained. You just missed it. He fell from higher up.

No shit !!

Right lmao

I mean kinda was.. lol

That's actually... not a bad concept

Lol thats what my brother said when we watched it today

Same when i read the netflix description i though this guy on the ship must be killing everyone

It moved me to cancel Netflix.

Its like hallmark has taken over science fiction

This. A movie with so much potential, but ended up being absolutely awful. The sadness was pointless, there was no lesson from it, there was no saving grace. It was just a woman dying because of bad circumstances and awful luck, they made it sad, but sad was the entire plot line, and the film relied on it. You cant just do that. No-one wants to watch a movie that makes them cry unless they take something away from it or there is an ultimately happy ending, even romeo and Juliet has weak versions of morales and happy endings, but with this there is nothing to learn, so much left unanswered, so many loose ends, and weird plotholes, and it was sad for the sake of being sad, which just makes an inherently bad movie

@@aidanm5849 I think you failed to grasp the basic point of the movie: life is brutal and sometimes there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. You and/or other might end up suffering no matter how smart you are and how much effort you are willing to put in. The sadness was not pointless at all - it is a grim reminder of "memento mori" for all, especially astronauts. Space is dark, lonely, inhospitable and unforgivable - that's the lesson. If you don't like sadness rooted in realism then consider going back to Star Wars or the Teletubbies.

@@KonradofKrakow no one wants to watch sad shit

Then plant trees!!!

Get used to taking deep breaths to try to get some oxygen because we are cutting down the rainforest and bleaching the oceans.

@@aluisious 😂 we ight bro

Don't watch the movie "oxygen" then

Poudel Solti

My exact thoughts. The movie truly did know what it was. And didn't follow that typical plot line cliche of this one character going rogue out of despair ( which is what I expected ). They all remained natural, professional, and determined accordingly as it honestly would be in real life for the most parts. Me, someone who is obsessed with action movies mainly really liked Stowaway lol.

wait no fr it felt so real and i really felt the existential tragedy and dread in every single character

Agreed. I understand that people have different expectations from the movies. For me, I just accept the situation as is, as long as it is consistent. It helps me to have understandings and appriciation similar to yours.

That's because science doesn't interest you.

I agree 100%. I like it the way it ended.--very subtle yet powerful.

This movie was horrible made no logically sense.

@@hauywowy you like your own comment

I agree with you. David was the one who changed and became less self centred. Zoe was basically constant all the way through.

@@hauywowy Explain why you think it didn't make sense and I'll point out the explanation you missed.

it was inconsistent with her values, the values of American doctors is to pocket as much money as possible out of their patients even if that means prolonging their suffering, Zoe had the opposite of those values, so yeah she was a real treasure, and as is often the case with treasures, they don't last very long.

I Know right?!?! Huge plot hole that no one addresses. How did he get locked in an electrical cabinet from the outside? Really bad, really lazy writing.

@@tysonburns9535 lmao that was the first thing I had in mind the whole movie. I guess it was just some Cloverfield Paradox shit where people just appear inside the walls of a space station. Who knows maybe he was from another dimension

Right

This is the worst of the movie. But I guess in the long run it doesn't matter considering the situation at hand.

He also acts confused, and surprised that he is on the ship. Thought they were leading to something with this. Nope, nothing explained.

The ending in a nutshell* I'm my opinion, the whole movie was great. It would've benefited from a longer runtime though, my only critism

@@user-xi6cp6ff4v Who would be dumb enough to "realize that going to Mars would give their life meaning?" No shit, really? Human exploration of other planets...hmm...nah, boring.

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“Let me give my life to save someone I barely know. 5 minutes ago, I decided to exit the solar storm when I was right at the tanks. Now, I’m headed back out into the same storm.” Zoey’s family should sue the hell out of Michael. His buffoonery and actions are directly responsible for her death.

My issue was how she sacrificed herself. So she’s just going to sit there and succumb to radiation poisoning? Do you have any idea how painful and disgusting that will be? She’s going to be vomiting and going number two in her space suit. It’s going to be horrible and they made it look pretty chill.

At least they owed us the michael explanation. How the hell did he Survive and also become a stowaway in the first place?

I believe 'stowaway' in this case means that he intentional hid on the ship. Maybe with the help of another work. It would've helped though if they clarified if he were there intentionally or not. We can clearly see he didn't mean any harm, so it would've made sense

😂

“Wait, Why did I give my life for an incompetent person that I do not know, who put all of us in danger?”

Lmao 🤣

He did say in an earlier scene "most of what I need was already sent to Mars' so maybe there would be......some other work/research be could do when he arrives?

they didnt need her anyway, they just have to be careful not to hurt themselves lol

@@telectronix1368 I think he meant most of the equipment that he needed to make lots of oxygen was on Mars, but he had no choice but to use up all his specimens in the movie. That’s why he was so upset, all his training and life’s work was for nothing.

@@aluminiumiodide she was there for medical research .

@@salvor5764 he wanted that algae for all the CO2 present on mars . It was all destroyed so practically he really couldn’t do anything on mars .

Micheal wasn't irrelevant to the plot. One, he had no relevant skills to the mission, but two, he's a person who can't simply be thrown out of the ship. By the end of the movie, both David and Micheal were in similar positions, that's being useless to the mission. Zoe had little to live for, at least that's what I'm assuming. And from the story she told Micheal, she was suicidal (I don't know about that part, but I'm sure she didn't expect to be saved from drowning). It's also explained that risk were necessary because a humans life was involved. I don't know, maybe I'm just willing to overlook a few things since I like sad, realistic endings. Realistic to me at least

Also, by sad plot device, I'm sure you mean what I explained in my previous comment. That being them having to avoid the obvious solution of killing him, but not being able to since he's a human. Even though he had no relevant skills to the mission. I don't know, a lot of the decisions in the movie feel too guided so they could point to a certain meaning, but i liked it

@@tramarthomas6105 I agree with you except for the Zoe being suicidal part. I think she was saying she could not live with herself if she let him die and always wondered if she could have saved him. She had no choice but to try, knowing she may not survive

@@tramarthomas6105 too long and wrong

Still this movies has too much flaws, even if you ignored the fact that Michael manage to snuck on board. Zoe death was pointless, it would save everyone oxygen if she choose the injection.

So it was the radiation that killed her!!?

Preparing you to ride elons rocket 😂

Agreed. The problem with that is, people don't necessarily want it to make sense. They are usually after the feelings they have had from the other movies, which is pretty much self-evident, as the critic mention his expectations for the ending and character development. I don't judge that, but they end up enjoying fewer things as the movies have already started to become copies of each other.

same i thought he got into the ship to like destroy the mission

If you see it coming then technically it's not a twist. Then you would have complaints about that ending. Also she wasn't suicidal she was just willing to do the task that needed to be done.

Well that's not what the movie was thankfully. Zoe wasn't suicidal, and she didn't kill herself.

@@eobardthawne324 I agree. I don't even know if I'd call what she did a sacrifice

"Well this radiation really got me. Being a doctor, I realize I might have a chance to survive if I limit my exposure ASAP, but instead I'm going to just sit outside here while I get roasted inside out."

You mean how? Did he get sealed by other workers wtf. Another biggest etf moment is why didn’t they attach the oxygen canisters to the belt?

@@Zerin666 The other big plot hole is why did David get tired during the space/walk climb? The guy has like 0% body fat is is jacked.

@@blanktom6049 good point . Idk bro this movie is filled with plot holes

@@blanktom6049 They had to cut the scene where he reveals he is actually 50% plant and that the algae was his life force. (See? Those scenes with him grieving over the lost second batch have more pathos now, eh?) Naturally he was then in a weakened, non-algae-lifeforce-sustained state and gets more easily tired. Plus his plans for a half-man/half-algae Mars utopia have had QUITE the setback.... #TrueStory 😉

@@blanktom6049 and he had beed trained for 2 years

Zoe is Mephisto, didn’t you know?

@@shisah5544 😂😂😂

Because Guardians of the galaxy is too scientifically literate for this movie.

The characters were terrible too! The two guys were weak and incompetent buffoons. The one semi-likable character decides to give her life to save someone she barely knows - who was directly responsible for the crisis.

@IPA SOLÉ do you still want to know?

Exactly and no one was looking for him lol

He fell from higher up when the ship was on the launchpad. Hence the safety harness and him mentioning he thought he was clipped in.

Or how one scuba tank of O2 can save them?

You don't wonder how Anna Kendrick has more upper body strength than Daniel Dae Kim?

@@alphanerd7221 It's not a matter of upper body strength. Those climbing harnesses are designed to be used with your legs. David had bad technique, hence he got tired faster.

Yes

Wasn't the purpose of the movie, but that would've been cool

I like the way it ended it was very unique. In my opinion

I thought for sure he was gonna stab the other dude with the suicide vial or whatever... at least that woulda been interesting... this movie was kinda blah

Yes the entire movie, I was waiting for him to start killing people. I think the fact that I had that impression, is what ruined this movie for me.

Not forever, She would run out of oxygen, she would starve to death, Or the suit could run out of power and she would suffocate and get crushed to death. But still your right it would be horrifying

Do u know why she didn’t just go inside the ship along with the oxygen she brought?

@@aulirs Because that oxigen was only enough for 3.

@@aulirs She was toxic. Her suit was penetrated and she was full of radiation. She was dying and didn't want to expose the rest of the crew.

Yeah, I think that's the difference between drama and thriller movies? I'll have to look it up, but once i saw Micheal wasn't a bad guy, things started to add up for me

I originally thought he entered it from another place but now I see that's highly unlikely 😅

@@caliside7449 we need a sceaqual

@@xKenn i agree i thought he was trying to like ruin the mission

This was my exact thought! It looked like it was attempted murder by someone ... I was expecting more.

@@kateaustin9428 same it ended so suddenly

They can't plan for everything. They didn't Micheal proof the ship sadly lol

Yeah that was a dumb way of doing it..no way they would not have a spare or a secondary system.

Also they put the spare oxygen as far as possible from where they were staying on the ship. Miles away on a long pole. Not the best saftey plan but hey

Would that have made it better, though? It reeks of deus ex machina to me.

4:20 "puts the whole new meaning of YOU IDIOT" to that whole of a word she could have pulled the tank with one hand gripped it like a foozeball like the water boy and gone down like a champ like Tarzan. zoes an idiot jesus Lol

@@quasarsphere Most definitely since they're traveling at high speed while simultaneously spinning so that would be impossible to happen and would have killed the film right then and there

@@quasarsphere Nothing in the film is "deus ex machina".

Then people would have complained about the tank reappearing.

A Black life mattered to Zoe. A beautiful woman!

Correction: All lives mattered to Zoe, a beautifully human being who needed no arc!

Not radioactive but more like pure ozone.

I was expecting some explanation to how that lid got replaced with Michael trap in place. But they never explain it, I think the writers got lazy.

i still like the movie. i dont care about plot holes.

I'm sure a hole in her suit would mean her freezing to death instantly... So yeah, that would be peaceful, but seeing her enjoy the view was nice... Sad too since she looking out at how far Mars was, a destination she'd never make it out to 😭

@@the_second_channel You'd have to not care about plot holes to like this abortion.

the movie isn't that bad. it just had plot holes. it definitely wasn't a waste of time, it just couldve prevented plot holes

@@the_second_channel I wouldn't say there were plot holes. From the way I see it, a lot of the questions the movie didn't answer were meant to be unanswered. To the OP, this review is in hindsight. You can enjoy a flawed movie and have critiques of it at the end.

@@tramarthomas6105 ah thanks for clearing it up

It's pointless. Radiation particles bombarded her entire body even her DNA is damaged beyond healing.

A coworker obviously would've had to help him get locked up there. I'm sure he meant no harm, and didn't expect the launch to be so rough.

Lmfao !!!!

Right? Like how the hell you pass out and go to space dude !

@@livingbetternotbitterwithp4997 😂🤣

Serious case of “MIND YA BUSINESS!” 😂😂

I don't know, it think it's more of the ship moving at a high speed, and the canister detaching from Zoe who's moving at the same speed as the ship? I have no clue about this stuff, but that's what I'm guessing. I think it fits with the movies message, if my idea of what the movie was trying to say is the same as the actual message

The representation of the falling oxygen tank was represented correctly according to the laws of physics. The rotation simulates the gravity for all rotating objects, oxygen tank including.

I think you’re misunderstanding the artificial gravity conceit. It’s centripetal force that’s acting as “gravity,” which is applied to all the objects including the people and the oxygen tank(s) that are attached. Once the tank is detached (dropped), it already has momentum and will continue on the trajectory it was imbued, which takes it away (flying away) from everything else. Objects in motion stay in motion at a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force. It would be breaking Newton’s first law if the tank didn’t fly away and just floated.

Yes. I am sick of character arcs and Hollywood's preoccupation with redemption.

Yeah show me a "coward famrboy" who can fly an F-18 because he was "talened" with a dirtbike. My guess the force can replace years of training when you have a "character arc" :D

@@markfoldesi9691 within the rules of that universe (magic realism in a heroic epic), I personally feel that that evolution is valid. To me, that's not as outrageous as the notion that one type of arc fits all :-D

@@dinooldman6671 I agree. If there were a reluctant hero arc, I could see people complaining that they saw the ending coming from a mile away and were then unsatisfied for that reason.

@Meinhart I agree, I dont feel like a dramatic shift is the only way to make us interested in a character. I'm very curious to see more stories hook us in new ways! There's a lot to explore about human tragedy....

I know right?

Doesn't matter. Radiation doesn't effect the oxygen and they can just throw out the tank after they put the oxygen from it into the system. Remember, the oxygen we breath has this happen to it all the time.

Well, the launch was rushed. Michael was doing some last-minute stuff fell and fainted and someone put the lid over his body and sealed it in with 5 or 6 screws and sent the ship packing. XD

It's in the title of the movie, he hid on the ship so he'd be part of the mission. It's clear though that he didn't intend and harm to the crew. They used the algae to provide themselves more time to figure that to do with Micheal. They didn't wasn't three days, they were dealing with a humans life

tramar thomas why did he seem surprised then when he found out the ship launched and was in space?

Morpheus if he didnt know, then he’s not a stowaway. But they chose it as the title so it’s a possibility that he did it on purpose and was just lying to them. Maybe thats the case but still dumb. And the movie didnt provide explanation etiher lmao

@@marklee4307 Yeah they should have explained this, huge plot hole. He acted surprised even before he knew anyone was around. Just a weird execution of this as a potential sub plot

That's genius!

No, that's just your own interpretation of it.

@@Mahi-nw5vh Well yes, but it's a rather obvious one to make. i'm surprised the Narrator of the above didn't catch on. So no... not "no" more like "duh... obvious".

couldn't pay me to watch that movie again

@@frankmattingly8173 😂

youre weak

It was great, but I wish it were longer. Like if it were 3 to 4 hours, it would've been perfect for me

I thought it was a beautiful movie too! Zoe could not have lived with herself if she didn't do it. She saw the beauty in the lives of the others, the beauty in life itself.

@Don Nicholas there’s a sequel

@@vsamdol95 really?! Where

@@earth2aariyel792 I’m kidding 😂

Hope you enjoyed it!

yes! it is outrageous that this thing is never explained. A bleeding and passed out person cannot cover himself with the panel and screw it from the outside. Everything points to him having being attacked and placed there, but why would anyone do this? None of the characters are wondering about this, this is so dumb! Why don't they have a spare CDRA part, it's really small, they could have had ten of them! Why did they consider offing Michael over climbing to the Kingfisher initially so easily and wasted 3 days? Why did no one say specifically that we cannot change the course of the ship/we don't have an escape pod? It's a very reasonable question that inevitably arises in this situation. Or the ship could halt for a bit so that a transport rocket with oxygen from Earth could reach them/take Michael back? The film takes place in a quite distant future, they should have some failsafe in case there's danger to peoples' lives. Could you imagine if Elon Musk sent austronauts into space and they would have to kill off one of them to save some oxygen? There would be a huge scandal never seen before. Why are we never shown a proper finale with the 3 survivors getting to Mars, so that there would be a real payoff for Zoe's sacrifice. The film ends abruptly, and there's no way of knowing if they all would survive. What if they are hit by space debris and explode 2 days later, or several more passed out technicians fall from the ceiling, or the ship crashes while landing? This is infuriating! The direction was so tasteful and intelligent, but the script (which the film director co-wrote with someone else) is beyond weird.

I suggest you take a summer class in basic physics, I guarantee you won’t regret it!

In the movie, it is explained that there is "normal" gravity at both ends of the ship. So when Zoe falls back onto the ship, she drops the cannister and it falls/drifts into space.

centrifugal force

Lmao

They never needed the suit during the trip. The helmets were always open.

And that's why you'll never be an astronaut

movie is based on book named "the cold equations" it's a much sader tale, and better story

@@AmirDarkOne Imo that short story is very badly written. Not that this film is without flaws but the main factor in the short story is "too much extra weight on the ship" which could be easily remedied by throwing out something as simple as one or two of the metal lockers on board. The ending really isn't justified. In this film at least the premise makes more sense: "not enough air" where, realistically, the solution is "use less air" (i.e. 'yeah, we really do need to have 1 less person')

@@telectronix1368 but you can't do that, ship is bare bone. story is about cold truth. i do agree lack of fuel was bad choice and air shortage is much more believable. my problem with movies is element of luck, Algae failing because bad luck, solar storm so conveniently happen and ruins everything (solar storm only happens once in a couple of years) so the reason someone had to died in movie is just bad luck, but in book its a cold calculation.

@@AmirDarkOne Yes the line in the story is 'no other way' but they literally have lockers on the ship (that the person was hiding in). The idea of "nope, there is just no way, there is not any object or piece of the ship, no surface etc etc...." just is not tenable (tennable ?). In this film version though the 'hard limit' is the amount of oxygen. The only solution to that is 'need less oxygen'.

The biologist was never going to make that trip on his own. Zoe seemed to be a better EVA technician.

This is far spacious than the real station

Copy that……is the annoying response all the way through the film like some 10 year olds pretending to be astronauts

The oxygen they needed to fill the tank to survive was leaking so they didn't have time to spare and wait for the storm to pass which would have been hours. She had to go to get what was left to fill the tank.