COLORISM AND MISOGYNOIR GALORE - Part 2 || S1EP6 STRANGER FRUIT Podcast

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COLORISM AND MISOGYNOIR GALORE - Part 2 || S1EP6 STRANGER FRUIT Podcast

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Жыл бұрын

Queen and J. from "Tea with Queen and J." join Donovan for Part 2, diving more into colorism and misogynoir in the mainstream and its impact on society. Is it hard to confront these topics in the Black community? How do colorism and misogynoir impact our spirit?
Tag #thestrangerfruit or @ us on social media to let us know what you think of the episode! Remember, conflict + compassion = empathy.
Feat: Queen (@thequeenspeaks_) and J (@janiciaf) from @teawithqj
EP, Host: Donovan Thompson (@i_am_donovan)
Producer: Constanza Eliana Chinea (@eliana.chinea)
Executive Producer: William Stallings (@dukeofbeaux)
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@shinelil1 Жыл бұрын

Donovan is special. We need more people like Donovan in the world. We appreciate you Donovan.

@blaq2handle Жыл бұрын

There is a KZfaqr named Chrissie who has been talking about colorism for a decade. Her videos are very profound and she gives perspectives you don't often hear on other platforms. She even highlights positive dark skin promotional videos from the media and had a magazine for dark skinned women.

@PhantomGirl888 6 ай бұрын

Yess I love Chrissie!!

@QuayB Жыл бұрын

Part 1 was excellent. Part 2 though?!!! Part 2 is PHENOMENAL. I've grown fatigued by explaining colorism to people. It's not lost on me that dark-skinned women are always, always having to "explain." From now on, I promise, I will be sending this video out instead.

@MsVixen Жыл бұрын

❤❤

@nativesun7661 Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree MORE! Tea with Queen and J. baby!!!!!!!!✊🏾

@QuayB Жыл бұрын

I'm going to listen to this twice but on my first go-round, y'all broke this shit down so clearly that only willful ignorance would allow a person to part from this video without a better understanding of the dynamics between privilege and oppression where colorism is concerned.

@DiamondStylz Жыл бұрын

I love these women. ...loved this whole convo and depth

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

So glad the episode resonated with you! What other topics are you interested in?

@DiamondStylz Жыл бұрын

@@strangerfruituniverse Have Donovan to bring his trans cousin on

@chara8231 Жыл бұрын

Part 2 exceeded my expectations just the same as part 1! Queen and J are AMAZING!!!! Definitely gonna share this two part episode🤗 Thank you Donnavon for bringing top tier content to the KZfaq uiverse! I can't wait for the next episode! As others have stated...I click as soon as a new episode pops up!👏🏿

@DonovanThompson Жыл бұрын

Thank you sooooo much for watching!! 🙏🏿🖤

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Char! So grateful to you for the support. We love Queen and J too! They are such a joy to talk to.

@marianwatson9893 Жыл бұрын

Again..I clicked so fast to tune into part 2‼️

@danyelfulton Жыл бұрын

Looking at this state of the world and consciousness like something to be free from like how our ancestors thought beyond slavery? Liberating AF. Looking at most of our leaders and realizing they all light skin? 😶 I knew but I didn’t Know. So much good in this conversation. Thank you for introducing them to us.

@Okra_winfrey Жыл бұрын

46:24 when I tell you I have rewound this at least 10 times … I am CACKLING. You didn’t even have to see the clip to understand the mediocrity. But, now that we collectively know that that predator only hires women he wants to fuck, this clip is just yet another example of that. He was nasty to Kaiya knowing good and damn well she was the better singer and it wasn’t even CLOSE.

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

No where near as close!

@Jabgodeep77 Жыл бұрын

Why doesn't this channel have more views? These conversations are necessary. I almost feel like a lot of us in the black community doesn't want things to change/improve unfortunately.

@kumosunfilteredconvospodca9615 Жыл бұрын

Watching this second part was hard and triggering because it showed me how some of my most recent interactions where I’ve been let down by other Blk folks were colorist and I had to sit with this for awhile to the point I paused this episode and really sat with the emotions I was feeling and I accepted the harsh truth that other Blk folks were colorist/most of my interactions have been based on colorism/were colorist😭

@39tatixx Жыл бұрын

I am so glad you all are having these conversations again!! I have missed the grapevine!! So glad to hear these necessary perspectives on issues affecting black people.

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for checking us out, @Tatiana!

@Ambrosed389 Жыл бұрын

So much wisdom and insight. Grateful for this. Oh, and Queen & J’s laughter is highly contagious 😆🫶🏽

@desireecase7870 Жыл бұрын

So glad that Donovan is back on this platform

@dre_withwithout Ай бұрын

Ight 27:46 is wild 😂😂😂😂… I’m screen capping that because that is hilarious for sad reasons. People are benefiting off pain for clicks.. Much love 💙 to this show

@yeyoof3496 Жыл бұрын

I have so many questions. Parents of both skin tones. How do you protect all of your children from the drama? I am listening because these issues are real. Most people do not want to account for the part they play. Effective conversations help. ✌🧘🙏

@palesamotaung2988 4 ай бұрын

Hello Donovan and your lovely guests. Lots of Love from South Africa. 🇿🇦 🌍 You are all very beautiful and make me proud to be Black and African. 🖤

@jhoniikemp Жыл бұрын

Crazy how every light skin girl, their hair was in danger of being cut

@cmg25 Жыл бұрын

😂

@misslacolebaby734 Жыл бұрын

That’s a damn shame ain’t no one jealous of you, who taught them that. Sometimes I wonder if men taught them that. I ain’t never looked at no light women and been like I want to cut her hair, smh Ctfu.

@OnOurWayAllens Жыл бұрын

It’s was so so so good to hear y’all again. Going to resubscribe to y’all Patreon

@palesamotaung2988 4 ай бұрын

Yho. That Rick Ross clip is insane 😵‍💫

@LaStellarJane.creates Жыл бұрын

My favs!!

@misslacolebaby734 Жыл бұрын

I love your show Donovan, protect you at all cost. Beautiful inside and out. God bless you.

@_EyesThatSmile Жыл бұрын

I loved every second of this episode! Part one and two!!

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

Thank you sooo much for watching!

@misslacolebaby734 Жыл бұрын

Also why do light skin people think people jealous about their hair?? Everyone grows long hair?? We all hair nice hair, so many pretty brown and dark skin women have nice hair this is ridiculous. Stop it, I hate this.

@Ossouko Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! I feel seen . Also thank you for confirming I am not making s#£t up.🙏🏾💕

@NINJATHETIMEISMINE Жыл бұрын

Love this fr yall keep going up gang

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the positive vibes!

@ruthannleverett7206 Жыл бұрын

In the next conversation can you talk about the black men who make the bi racials?

@cheshireblack2721 Жыл бұрын

People love power and see it in skin color because of our diasporic, historic context of weakness. It's very short sighted and low Vibrational.

@jesushateswood Жыл бұрын

That Rick Ross clip was awful.

@lillybilly9954 Жыл бұрын

What helped me as a light skinned woman is when something I’ve done or said or perceived is brought to my attention as colorist, if my argument sounds like white people denying white privilege, it’s colorist.

@misslacolebaby734 Жыл бұрын

I also think people need to be honest also it’s about shadism also because browns come in all shades and also in features right, because if your brown and if you have a certain look maybe with straighter hair or maybe a slimmer nose or hazel eyes your experience may be way different because of your look so it does go into that account also. There’s so many levels to this.

@tgjickyvex2522 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see AshleeMariePreston & or Hope Giselle on this show in regards to blackness & Transness

@CosmoArin 3 ай бұрын

Did she say Maya Angelou was light skinned??? She’s lighter than Maya

@user-rm1lm3rt7e Жыл бұрын

This was a great discussion

@TaLynnKel Жыл бұрын

I did not sustain myself. But I'm still learning.

@natatruffle Жыл бұрын

Such a great show 💖xx

@strangerfruituniverse Жыл бұрын

Thank you! We are so happy you enjoyed it. More episodes coming soon.

@118ent Жыл бұрын

This interview is very informative for me especially being a lighter skinned black man but I’m failing to see any bridge or solution from them

@loveeveryone1377 Жыл бұрын

I remember Zendaya turning down a roll meant for a dark skinned girl cuz she felt it wasn’t fair to make the character light skinned when it’s based on a true story of a dark skinned woman or girl. I think that’s an example of recognizing her light skin privilege and looking out for darker skinned women. I think some light skin ppl are defensive just like a white person who says “my life has been hard I never experienced any privilege” but sometimes I feel like the privilege they’re talking about is more on the wealth topic than day to day instances we take for granted. For instance two black girls went to a yacht party but the dark skinned girl was told she couldn’t enter yet the almost white passing/light skin girl was told she’s the only one who could go in. That’s just a tiny example that some people look over. Also it depends on the area you live in and the way the people in that area to were raised. There just needs to be acknowledgment that colorism does exist. You see it in the market over sees with bleaching creams and ppl not hiring tanned skin individuals cuz the company want “fair skin”. Anyway hope it changes soon

@sheliamaxwell2569 Жыл бұрын

I disagree with you all about being light skin makes one less black than their darker skin counter part. My sister is light skin and is just as black as me as it relates to our consciousness, culture, being raised in the same house by the same mother. I am older, and when I was growing up colorism was called being color struck, well at least that's what my mother referred to it as. She was born and raised in the Colorist capitol of the world, New Orleans, Louisiana, so maybe that's what it was called there. Thankfully, I was only born there.

@dorcaswhitaker8746 8 ай бұрын

I was raised in southern Virginia. Colorist were called being "color stuck" there, too It's not the state/area. Its the generation/era. So you're right. Same thing, different name. 🎉

@sheliamaxwell2569 8 ай бұрын

I am going to add onto my original statement. Those of us, that our ancestors were part of the slave trade, actually have "black skin". Also, black skin, I mean literally black skin, isn't specific to Africa, I have seen East Indian people with blue black skin, and what about the Aboriginal people from Australia. I am being very specific, as to color, not ethnicity or culture. Those that I just named with having black skin, don't consider themselves to be "Black" as it relates to race, despite the actual color of their skin.

@gooHefner 9 ай бұрын

So what community do I belong too

@rachel3343 Жыл бұрын

Just teach people to be just people.

@cmg25 Жыл бұрын

You’re either raised to be able to discuss the issues or you’re not. It’s overly simplistic and reductive to declare that an entire group of people are incapable of having a conversation on a show about dismantling stereotypes.

@awardtour93 Жыл бұрын

While I understand the point J was trying to make about light skin people being "less black" (especially being a light skin person herself), we have to also acknowledge the contradiction of such a thought. Because as soon as a light skin (or even bi-racial) person feels any sense of that sentiment (and subtly separates themselves from blackness), black people are offended and quickly remind them that they're still a n***a. So we have to be careful not to go so far to make a distinction of oppression that we create unnecessary webs of confusion.

@DiamondStylz Жыл бұрын

but its not really a contradiction tho.......its providing a spectrum of the Black experience its doesnt exclude them from Blackness....We need to understanding that acknowledging that your experience is less Black is not the same as saying your are NOT Black at all. Yes you are having a Black experience but you are not having to deal with the depth of anti-Blackness to the level that a darker skin person would...so it is a less Black experience. Even the "you still a nikka" acknowledges the spectrum because the subtext is "yea you got them privileges but you still a nikka". If you believe that colorisim is real, you dont have to understand how everything about it work you can skip diectly to the act of figuring out how are you going to weld your power to fix that problem.of colorism in your personal circle. That web of confusion shouldnt block you from doing the work.

@awardtour93 Жыл бұрын

@@DiamondStylz nah. The level of your "Black experience" isn't determined by how much oppression you have experienced. And even if it were, levels of oppression aren't based solely on skin tone. There are light skin people who have experienced more oppression than I have as a brown skin person, yet I did not grow up economically privileged. So what's my level of blackness? There is no spectrum of Black experience because there isn't one extreme Black experience to be used as the measure for all others to be compared to. Such a concept is outlandish and creates unnecessary division because it's completely subjective. Are we really this committed to determining who is "blacker"?? That actually demonstrates how sick and damaged we truly are. We can have discussions about privilege without attempting to validate the legitimacy of someone else's blackness.

@DiamondStylz Жыл бұрын

@@awardtour93 This conversation about the systematic impact of colorism in the Black experience. Colorism is about skin tone Blackness is about color ...This was not a conversation about every intersection that makes your Black experience different ...but the context was colorism not class...if the context was classism then your economic privilege would determine what level of poverty it shielded you from and on a systematic level thats about money not skin color.....(eventhough your Blackness and your skin tone would inform that too.) In the context of race and colorism your tone will determine the depth of your Black experience.,,,

@awardtour93 Жыл бұрын

@@DiamondStylz @Diamond Stylz and therejn lies the problem. If you're making a statement about one's blackness, you can't remove intersection from the consideration. Colorism doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's layered. So making a blanket statement that a light skin person is less black simply isn't real or true. My grandfather was born light skin (non-white passing) in a lineage of laborers in rural South Carolina. And while there possibly could have been some level of skin tone-based privilege experienced in his immediate environment, is he somehow less black than a brown skin black man born at the same time in Chicago or California? How so if he had a closer connection to slavery than them?? Such a thought is WAY too simplistic. And that's my issue with it.

@DiamondStylz Жыл бұрын

@@awardtour93 yes your grandfather had a less Black experience...doesnt mean he is Less Black as an identity, but his experience was because the contruct of Blackness was less heavy in his life ...impacted him less....colorism is a simple concept with tons of research and lived experience to support it.....skin tone effects opportunity ...just the idea of you questioning even the possibility that your grandfather light skin didnt effect his outcomes show you just dont believe colorism exist and thats probably why you are confused. Intersections matter overall in how you are shielded from the negative impact of racism but not from the fact that you need to be shielded less if youre light