We need Mac back on the JRE again.

Pat Mac is our most valuable national resource.

I would totally listen to 3+ hours of you and Jocko respectfully debating this😂

Pat is right. I've been a police officer for 40 years and have been is more fights that I care to remember. The only time it goes to the ground was after it was over to handcuff. The first time I was in a scuffle it went to the ground and I swore to myself it would not happen again. It has not. If you end up in a street fight give it all you have because in my opinion a fight is won or lost in the first 5 seconds.

Angelo Dundee once told me "the best way to avoid a punch is don't be there in the first place". Hard to argue with that logic.

I'll never forget thinking I was a badass dude joining my first boxing gym and some scrawny 16 y.o. kid knocked the shit out of me in the ring 😂 I'm glad I've grown up so much since then. Pat really knows what he means when you can't judge a book by its cover.

Dirty boxing, muay thai, staying on your feet, i.e. defense against takedowns. Follow what is right. And avooooooid avooooid avooooid - I love u Pat!

One of my pet peeves as someone who trains bjj is this notion it makes you invincible. I don't believe it's a great go to in a bar fight situation but it has immense value in a ton of other situations where you are dealing with a single aggressive person and allows a range of responses that striking does not. As for LEO it is the #1 training I would recommend as most of the hands on is resistive not assultive subjects and it's normally 1 of them and several officers. The reason that we take people to the ground is because it eliminates their movement and it limits their ability to land damage if they so choose to strike.

I love Pat's honesty! He's not pretending to be a superhero, he gives you reality. That's what makes him great to listen to 👍🏻

I was excoriated in the comments on one of your other videos for pointing out BJJ isn't great for a street fight, but I'll say it again- I worked security in bars and venues for years. Going to the ground just puts your head at stomping level for the other guys buddy and they almost always have a buddy(or three). On LEO's going to the ground, I think that's more a result of their training being focused primarily on the goal of restraining and arresting a suspect. It's certainly easier to restrain someone that is face down on the ground with your body weight on top of them. That said, in HS I boxed at the PAL(outside of wrestling season) and met quite a few cops that could absolutely throw hands.

Having practiced martial arts since the age of thirteen and received my first black belt in jujitsu in 96 and working on my 2nd degree black belt in American Kempo. I realize how important it is to keep an open mind when it comes to hand to hand combat . ( When it comes to fighting you never have arrived and know it all ) meaning keep training ! What I love about Macs teaching is he’s precise , concise, and straightforward and 💯% right it’s absolute B.S. that all fights end up on the ground! The best way to win a fight is to not have one at all . Avoidance is the best measure to take . But if it can’t be avoided then have the skills to win . Better to have the skills and not need them , then to need the skills and not have them .

Thank you Pat. I find myself in these situations more and more lately. People wanting to test me because i'm a smaller guy. Little do they know....But recently I had to walk away after an altercation with a neighbor, his actions toward me were somewhat justified, and I took one on the chin for it. That will NEVER happen again. We both have kept distance since then, and these last few months have been peaceful. I continue to follow your philosophy of avoidance, but I acknowledge and respect him as a family man and neighbor as well. Thank you again, and I look forward to the next segment!!

Truth. I’ve been hearing the same thing about all flights going to ground for years and I’ve never had to go to the ground although like Pat Mac, I wrestled in high school and I still know how to wrestle and I have done a lot of DJ J and judo but I would rather stay on my feet! Great presentation thank you!

Tight and inside strikes, like Mike Tyson boxes. Love it, keep it up Pat.

I went to a Jim Harrison seminar decades ago. He brought up the 90% of fights end up on the ground line. "Those jui-jitsu matches you see on TV last more than an hour. In the street, you've been dead for 55 minutes! The other homies have jumped in and stomped you to death. If you hit the ground, your new fight is to get up!" I'll never forget that line or his delivery of it. I wish there were schools like that one still around. They are becoming increasingly hard to find.

MAN!! I love Pats passion!!!!

We love you guys!

Well said, thank you Pat

Look forward to every single one of these little clips, diamonds worthy of content.

Thanks pat you’ve given me a lot to think about.

Best advice ive heard soo far.

These morning videos rock!

My dad used to box on the Navy and then worked on ranches all through the 60s 70s till the 80s when he worked the city of Boston this is a much higher academic level of what he taught me and it's worked for me for so many years

Yeah Pat Mac, saying true things out loud!

Absolutely right preach !

Great insight on street fighting. The Audio is pretty great. Keep up the awesomeness!

So spot on.

When I was a young man, 11 years old, the movie pilot for the series Kung Fu came out. I always loved that show. In the Pilot episode, there was an interaction between Master Kan and Disciple Caine, wherein the young Disciple asked of the Master ... Master, do we seek victory in contention? Master says, Seek rather not to contend. (avoid avoid avoid) ... Disciple - But shall we not then be defeated? Master Kan says something so profound it stuck with me now for over 53 years later .... Master Kan says ... We know that where there is not contention, there is neither defeat nor victory. The supple willow does not contend against the storm, yet it survives. (the way he said that you could visualize what he meant) ... he then continues with this sage wisdom .... Perceive the way of nature and no force of man can harm you. Do not meet a wave head on: avoid it. You do not have to stop force: it is easier to redirect it. Learn more ways to preserve rather than destroy. AVOID, rather than check. Check, rather than hurt. Hurt, rather than maim. Maim, rather than kill. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced. It took a while for the young me to fully understand it, but once I did, I stopped getting into fights and summoning the demons of war from within, but rest assured, at the moment I would need them, I can summon them on will. That is why you train, so that when it is necessary you are prepared, but to wish for it to become usable is just a demon poking it's head out, you must have the self control to only train, and then, use Master Kan's approach of check, hurt, maim, kill, unless you are only left with one of the alternatives.

Former bouncer here. Seen or participated in well above my fair share of incidents. Deescalation is key. But if somebody kicks off, yes, stay off the ground. Fights happen in crowds. No idea who is that guy’s buddy and will take a shot at you while you’re on the ground rolling around. We had a guy that used to love to take people to the ground. Which turned into me being a one man crowd control keeping people back while we waited for the rest of our guys to get there. No fun. Also, stay off people’s necks unless you need to use lethal force. All neck stuff is lethal. Takes almost nothing to tear an artery, induce a stroke, and goodnight. Happened to me training Krav. Lucky I’m still here. Grown up fights aren’t kiddie play time. You can kill someone real quick.

I have been in 50 to 60 fights. Last one was against 2 21 year Olds at a gas station. I tried to walk away but one came at me real fast. They Could not handle my foot work. When one tried to punch I would Jab him then immediately attend to the second opponent. To be Successful avoid the fight ,but if it turns into a fight strike fast and hard, keeping calm and constantly moving watching your flanks. Keeping calm is the Key. You won't get tunnel vision or be distracted!

100% accurate, I've had a lot of "street fights" as well (in quotes because many happened indoors) and I've only taken a few people to the ground and it was always a one-on-one situation - I've been involved in bar brawls inside and outside the establishment and the only people on the ground were the ones who got laid out and fell there... I'd like to here Pat mention the solar plexus, I've dropped a lot of people with one shot to the solar plexus, fight over and everyone walks away

Always awesome content 👍🏻

Best real world street fight advised 100%! GOD BLESS

Great to finally hear someone publicly speak truth to urban myth. Pat beautifully laid out the reasons why one on one street fights are a “luxury” and not the norm. BJJ is great for a number of reasons…but you are not in a good place if you are fighting multiple highly motivated attackers from the ground.

I train under Professor Daniel Wanderley (Carlson Gracie Jiu Jitsu) and I couldn't agree more. He's trained Anthony/Sergio Pettis, Paul Felder, Raufeon Stots, Emmanuel Sanchez, Brendan Allen, etc (all Pro MMA fighters). People at the gym who strictly train BJJ are so inexperienced with stand up (I've also trained in Muay thai/kickboxing/boxing under Duke Roufus) that in a real fight or in sparring they've no idea what to do. Love your videos and all you do, thank you so much my basic dude 😎😄 Please come to Wisconsin soon!!

Great advice SGM Mac! Old MP from Bragg, and career Local LEO, only time I went to the ground was like you said to restrain a person. I did all I could from not letting someone take me down, especially dressed as a street cop 👮‍♀️ or like a turtle 🐢 with a vest and duty gear, even worse in a Swat/ert callout . I had a lifelong back ground in judo, Japanese jujitsu/combat judo, Sambo , and High school wrestling. One thing I learned as a MP/ mostly combat very little Garrison law enforcement and as a cop, bad things happen when you goto the ground. And Tony Blauer is great I had a brother Leo and martial artist who turned me on to Tony and taught Tony’s stuff, and it made the most sense. Tony teaches combat and if a person doesn’t know Tony, I question if they know combat . BJJ is great , it’s basically Judo with leg locks and great in its own arena , but as a stand alone combat art, it’s more a sport now. You need many tools even as a armed civilian. I love the longer more in depth videos you are doing! Thank you!

it super , super awesome Pat ............. thanks a million Brother - -Ted

I’ve been doing BJJ for a while and striking for a lot longer. I love BJJ but it’s not designed for street fights. Pat is spot on. Avoid fight, de escalate, if forced Quick strikes and get the heck out of dodge.

Really good content from Pat Mac.

Great advice brother

As a BJJ practitioner and instructor at my old company called Combative Jiu-Jitsu, I 100% concur with what Pat says!!!

I dig it!

Great video

Uncle Pat is the best.

Thank you

Avoid fights at all costs. Prison is full of guys who wished they just walked away

I agree 10,000%!! I try to teach situational awareness to my kids and they're getting better at it but they'll get there. I studied Albo Kali Silat and we always talked about awareness and avoidance but we practiced the art and handling our selves from the ground and up.

I agree completely.

I would like to see more on the actual "fighting in a phone booth" demo. Great info and thank you for the video.

That’s why you DA MAN Pat Mac! Great info brother, as always. Go Navy, beat Army! ⚓️🤣

Spot on. Also there's no mat in the streets

Having a blue belt level knowledge is definitely useful and enough for 99% of the times you’d need to use it

Good advice. And as you know lots of people carry weapons. Like all the videos about escaping a rear naked choke. My way out is one of the knives or pistols I have on me.

WOW AWESOME stuff ....here in the UK Geoff Thompson says pretty much the same thing.

thanks for the information. I saw you on jujimufu's channel. subbed. hope to learn more.

good stuff.

well said ! 👏

Be sure to incorporate more than sport training in your bjj self defense toolbox. In every position look for opportunities to end the fight immediately. Things like eye-jab or eye-hook, throat crush, jaw dislocations, etc. are not commonly taught in sport bjj schools, but are definite fight enders.

Glad to see someone calling out the 90% rule. It was taken put of context by the Gracies. Sure bjj is cool, but its not the be all end all of fighting

Ask Pat if Smoky West started stuff. Some Delta and SF learned Operational Fighting in what we call Zero Distance Warfare way different than sport derived fighting.

Iron Mike Tyson’s fighting style saved my life. It’s no bullshit. Tight and dangerous!

Perfect.

You know, I say this as someone that’s spent a lot of time training bjj, but I think it needs to be said. Bjj has this cult like mindset that it’s the only thing you’ll ever need and although it’s powerful, it’s only really useful on one opponent at a time. If you’re a high level bjj guy then maybe you can handle multiple attackers, but it’s far more likely you get sent to the ER or worse.

If anyone is going to train for martial arts/boxing in this day and age you do so with the mindset that you never go to the ground. You stay on your feet. And absolutely you de-escalate the situation or get the hell out. Choose wisely my son.

Thank you sir, I do follow yo ur advice. avoid avoid avoid. And even if you defend yourself from an attacker, then there's always somebody filming looking for a lawsuit

Avoid places where alchohol is the main thing being served. In this way, you save money, and also have a much lower probability, of being physically attacked. Buy any wine or beer at the grocery store, for 20% of the cost at a bar, save 80%, get zero DUI's and zero fights. 100% of the times that I have seen a fight start, there was alchohol present in quantity and it was either inside, or just outside of ... a bar.

I boxed forever before I succumbed to the pervasive mentality that I had to learn BJJ. Did it, I dunno, a little over a year, maybe 18 months, I found it to be repetitive and very tournament-focused. Lots of rolling in artificial situations. Focused on not hurting the other person. I learned a couple of chokes and a couple of simple escapes but most of it was artificial and wouldn’t be of much use in a real scrap. I’d say Krav Maga is prob a better system in that you learn some basic BJJ skills but those are coupled with techniques to hurt your assailant. I’m obviously biased but I firmly believe that boxing fundamentals are the best cornerstone for becoming an effective fighter, whether in the ring, the octagon, or the sidewalk. Chuck Liddell hated going to the ground but he sure as hell put a lot of opponents there.

True Badass

Yup!

"Guys are dicks." You can't beat Pat Mac's teaching precepts! 💪🏽🇺🇲🤘🏽

90% of people can't fight 100% of guys think they can.

You talking about bjj with three dudes reminded me of Mike V, the skinhead skater from the 90's who knew how to fight groups of guys. I don't know what kind of person he was, but he definitely understood to control a group of guys trying to jump him.

All Cus D’Amato Mike Tyson stuff. Love that style.

Exactly correct

Great content 🔥😎😂👍

I don’t disagree that a lot of LEO’s can’t fight, however I don’t think thats the primary reason the fights go to the ground. In a street fight, the goal is win and leave. In an LE fight, the goal is to take the resistive subject into custody, and non-compliant subjects cannot be cuffed while standing. It usually goes to the ground as a by-product of attempting to restrain the subject.

"Best defense against punch is, no be there" -Mr. Miyagi, and Pat Mac here.

Don't BJJ any guy on the street. Love the content.

Pat is right on with this. I've never believed that 90% of fights go to ground BS. No street fight I've ever been in has gone to the ground. BJJ isn't designed for multiple attackers. Anyone that can even fight a little bit will never look for a fight.

Always a good idea to fight tight. As a boxer, not many people are comfortable infighting and it’s a great way to over pressure someone in a fight but staying inside the entire time

Train both for sure!

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Hey brother....hello from Mack Bolen!!!!

*MORNING Y'ALL*

Great video and great info, man. Thanks so much. Also, how bout Rebeccer photobombing 😎.

For a moment there I thought Mrs. Mac was going to drag Bob by the neck with the golf cart as some sort of shenanigan😄

Greco Roman incorporating clinch striking! Gotta be able to avoid takedowns and strike while in the clinch.

Finally some truth. I've seen many street fights, often someone goes to the ground after being KO'd and being on your feet is what stops you from getting kicked in the head by your opponents friends. Being on the ground in the street is a freaking dangerous place to be in.

Mac, can you comment on Royce Gracie and his brothers training operators in the Unit? How useful was the training?

Some BJJ and wrestling experts can take down people really fast though, and drop people on their heads. But those guys are just insane and have been doing it for years. I have very limited ground knowledge. BJJ and wrestling are such complex martial arts.

100% agree..I wasted my bjj friend during our stand up fight and when we got to the ground he was so tired and to stunned to do anything..so I submitted him..he was pretty pissed

Real

You have to be versatile- standing and ground work- but don’t focus solely on one. BJJ has applications if the fight goes that way but it’s not the be all end all. And as Pat says avoid at all costs is the best defense

Totally agree with you on this one. BJJ and other combat sports offer some good skills to have in your toolbox, but I give a long list of reasons to stay off of the ground! People also need to understand that BJJ is a sport with rules, no punching, kicking, eye gouges, grion strikes, elbows, headbuts etc. and when your opponent taps, you let go. Don't think your going to do that in a high stress situation when your life is on the line?? Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. If you train hours on hours to let go when someone taps, or you pick up your empty casing whenever you shoot, or put your magazines back in your pouch everytime they're empty rather than drop them, you will most likely do it when your life is on the line also. Something to think about.

When it comes to officers going to the ground with a suspect, you have to keep in mind that, an officer needs to use handcuffs. If the suspect is proned out, this means going to the ground and potentially your fight will start there. Also in a day and age where cops are being targeted for unjustified lawsuits and even prosecution for political reasons, being competent in ground fighting really pays dividends. Having said that, you are right, most cops can't fight

Kenpo is probably one of the best for street fights eyes throat groin knees are always targets and then run

Learn both, chances are if u like one you'll like both🤘

3:35 If you don't do any standup, you're not ready for a street fight. - strategically quoted Pat Mac I was instructed in the arts of Carlin, Burr and the dark arts of Stanhope. Videos on descalation skills would be nice as well as more on learning and training situational awareness.

I worked the doors in the uk for over 10yrs in the 3rd most violent city , The only guys I personally saw go to the ground were either out cold or semi , I was always alone and learned real quick how to de escalate if not verbally then I would use a fast hard push that would send them flying, 9 times out of 10 it backed them down, If it didn’t I would use a front kick with the ball of the foot into the solar plexus. If the push didn’t back them down then they would run onto the kick making it even worse for them.

The ideal street fight isn't where you take down the aggressor with a BJJ submission hold. The ideal street fight isn't where you run through multiple opponents like Jack Reacher while the crowd outside of the bar cheers you on. The ideal street fight is where you deal with the guy who is threatening you, and then get out of Dodge.