Why The Kliq Were The Most Hated Gang in Wrestling (wrestling documentary)

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Stunned By Wrestling

Stunned By Wrestling

Жыл бұрын

In this wrestling documentary we see how The Kliq were the most hated backstage faction in WWE history, as Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman ran roughshod over the WWF and Vince McMahon. They ruined the careers of other wrestlers and even their personal lives. Later The Kliq would split up and form the NWO in WCW and DX in the WWF, and their legacy can still be felt in WWE and the wider wrestling world today.
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@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling Жыл бұрын
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@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 9 ай бұрын
The fact that they got away with it is really disgusting, they were very lucky that non of the people they bullied used a gun on them.
@TrumpImmortal
@TrumpImmortal Жыл бұрын
If Taker has an issue with you you know you're messing up.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
BSK and the Kliq were tight though.
@bryanward535
@bryanward535 2 ай бұрын
Well unless you were from wcw
@tertmade9769
@tertmade9769 Жыл бұрын
Only Bret and Undertaker were still main eventers while the Kliq were causing havoc around WWF
@bealgates8594
@bealgates8594 Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is the only people you couldn’t mess with as the Kliq was Bret and Taker
@arthurmorgan7086
@arthurmorgan7086 Жыл бұрын
They couldn’t mess with anyone apart from no marks and noobs really. Anyone who sold a ticket was in no danger. Vince wasn’t stupid
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
Kliq and BSK are friends.
@VOAN
@VOAN Жыл бұрын
That's cause Bret and Taker got their own club. Undertaker got BSK and Bret got his Hart families: Davey, Owen, Pillman, and Neidhart. Not only that Bret had tons of friends still working in WWF at the time as well. Few mentions are Rick Rude, Crush, Adam Bomb, Yokozuna, Undertaker, and even X-Pac.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
@@VOAN There's overlap in the group. Rude, Undertaker, Owen and Davey are friends with the Kliq. And Pac is a Kliq member.
@woobgamer5210
@woobgamer5210 Жыл бұрын
@@VOAN don't forget that Undertaker was the Locker Room Leader, the biggest strongest most no-nonsense guy in the WWF. One of the closest guys to Vince besides the Kliq.
@thatboybear
@thatboybear Жыл бұрын
Kevin Nash’s singular talent is knowing how to play second fiddle to more talented, more influential people. He didn’t ride the highways nearly as much as he rode coattails. First Shawn Michaels, then Hulk Hogan. Always somebody bigger and better he could sit under and pretend to equal greatness.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 Жыл бұрын
It’s just like in sports. You know your place/role and play it to your full capabilities. But I digress 😊
@RyoUrawa777
@RyoUrawa777 7 ай бұрын
Don't you mean Waltman? dude was awful and only got anywhere because of him riding the coattails of The Kliq/DX and nWo in WCW
@davidkelling159
@davidkelling159 7 ай бұрын
But that sidewalk slam though! (Sarcasm)
@davidkelling159
@davidkelling159 7 ай бұрын
Waltman is genuinely very very good in the ring lol wtf
@RyoUrawa777
@RyoUrawa777 7 ай бұрын
@@davidkelling159 you're joking right?
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 Жыл бұрын
"Scott Hall got off scott free". Nicely played. 👍
@noyb12345
@noyb12345 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@TheBlackScatPack
@TheBlackScatPack Жыл бұрын
Never as a kid I would I thought they were soooo hated but damn they worked so well together.
@jeremywilliams5141
@jeremywilliams5141 Жыл бұрын
Neither would I.
@V-95K
@V-95K Жыл бұрын
Worked so well together because they had too much freedom backstage 🤷🏼‍♂️
@mrrios7766
@mrrios7766 Жыл бұрын
I really never thought that when 1-2-3 kid beat Razor it was actually the push they were giving him. Man they knew what they were doing. I love them all but man they were in control.
@lemtoalemwalling8773
@lemtoalemwalling8773 Жыл бұрын
The Kliq were afraid of The Undertaker.
@tertmade9769
@tertmade9769 Жыл бұрын
Also Bret made great matches with all of them, so Bret and Undertaker were the exception to the main event level
@DodumBhai1996
@DodumBhai1996 Жыл бұрын
Everyone was afraid of the Undertaker!! More like they respected the Undertaker
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
No they weren't. They loved him. BSK and Kliq partied together.
@4LP3E
@4LP3E 10 ай бұрын
undertaker liked the kliq
@MrTwille
@MrTwille 8 ай бұрын
They respected the undertaker , and taker respects them . Guys like Scott and Taker came up in the same time . Also JBL and Farooq was respected and vice versa
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 Жыл бұрын
In the long run the best thing that happened to vince was The Kliq being split up so much effect happened because Bischoff had an open check book
@kevinmcclintock5492
@kevinmcclintock5492 Жыл бұрын
True words! Good stuff. 👍
@VOAN
@VOAN Жыл бұрын
The WWE locker room should had thank Eric Bischoff for dividing the Kliq cause after that the Kliq had never reform ever again. With Hall and Nash in WCW, Triple H and Michaels are on their own with Waltman going between them. Even when Hall and Nash return in 2002, the Kliq is still not complete as Michaels is still out of action and when Michaels did return, Hall and X-Pac were gone from the WWE with Michaels being a change man and is more safer, no longer a prick, and most respectful in the ring. He's such a change man that he and the Rock almost work together but then Rock left for Hollywood after his feud with Goldberg.
@Kindaserious365
@Kindaserious365 Жыл бұрын
I like how Kevin Nash and to a lesser extent HBK is trying to make people move on because it was in the past. These guys ruined lives, took money out of families pockets, and destroyed moral. A junky, a drunk, a complete asshole, and the guy screwing the bosses daughter. Sad shit when u really think about it
@shaquilleburton1611
@shaquilleburton1611 Жыл бұрын
It's always the people doing wrong who want their dirt covered up
@danthemancushecan
@danthemancushecan Жыл бұрын
Oh please. Stop listening to KZfaq.
@Kindaserious365
@Kindaserious365 Жыл бұрын
@@danthemancushecan care to elaborate?
@arthurmorgan7086
@arthurmorgan7086 Жыл бұрын
@@danthemancushecan where is the lie?
@JihadBunnydick
@JihadBunnydick Жыл бұрын
HBK - Junky Hall - Drunk Nash - Asshole HHH - Banging Boss's daughter Lol what is X-Pacs character? Annoying peon?
@KDB349
@KDB349 Жыл бұрын
Every time i hear the stories about how horrible guys like Shawn Micheals, Triple H, Hall and Nash were i can't help but get pretty heated myself. And how could Vince be such a damn push over? Then again i guess nothing really's changed considering guys still use their influence to get what they want in the company. It may not be as bad but damn the idea of someone ruining someone else's livelihood has me heated.
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
Vince isn’t a saint, he’s as bad as those guys. It makes sense that he would let these things go in the name of business.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Жыл бұрын
Kliq HBK would make for a fantastic movie or video game villain because all the accounts really makes him look like a real love to hate villain who just gets under your skin when his mouth opens.
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 Жыл бұрын
It was manipulation and anyone who could talk smoothly and had a good body probably could have done it something that happened pretty much set the stage for the 2 groups that sold the most merchandise for both WCW and WWF dude I still have my 90's nWo shirt and DX military parody shirt plus the nWo backpack I swear the only difference was the group numbers the smaller had more stand out moments the larger had more notable members
@StonewallStacks
@StonewallStacks Жыл бұрын
Vince was in love with Shawn and I mean IN LOVE. You could tell every time Vince interviewed him he would fawn over him like a school girl
@jaydot4956
@jaydot4956 Жыл бұрын
What did you want Vince to do? He was over a barrel in the mid 90s because of the competition, if Vince didn’t kiss their ass they would’ve left for wcw.
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 Жыл бұрын
RIP Scott Hall 🙏🏿
@muhammad_alshammari84
@muhammad_alshammari84 Жыл бұрын
Alcohol took his life RIP
@RemoWilliams1227
@RemoWilliams1227 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammad_alshammari84 more the fact he mixed that dangerous addiction with his pain pills addiction it is sad someone so monumental to 90's pro wrestling fans died right when the BAD GUY was starting to seem to be living the clean and sober life now when I watch DDP I can't hate on him
@kyledamron
@kyledamron Жыл бұрын
Amen! I hate that he's gone I grew up a huge kliq mark
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 Жыл бұрын
@@kyledamron 💯
@ScotsGal
@ScotsGal 11 ай бұрын
I remember the whole thing about shawn michaels getting into a fight....the wwf at the time tried to spin it saying " shawn was attacked by 6 marines and was badly hurt" ...to embarrassed at the time to tell the truth that it was just one guy that kicked the crap out of him
@Joshua-uw7wm
@Joshua-uw7wm Жыл бұрын
Vince should have never let them get so much power within his own company. I hate people who conduct themselves in this type of behavior
@shaquilleburton1611
@shaquilleburton1611 Жыл бұрын
Same it's a kliq at my job they run the place and make everyone else miserable that's why people are leaving
@ladyluvsleez
@ladyluvsleez Жыл бұрын
@@shaquilleburton1611 bro straight upper cut one of em
@SpaceGhost92
@SpaceGhost92 Жыл бұрын
Who exactly did they “bury” that was actually any good and should’ve been pushed?
@mattparnall4148
@mattparnall4148 11 ай бұрын
@@SpaceGhost92 Bam Bam, Vader, Owen Hart. The people they then buried (or tried to bury) after they split, Jericho, the Rock, in many ways CM Punk. And those are the only ones that could have been (or were) main eventers.
@iamdevilboy5976
@iamdevilboy5976 9 ай бұрын
They were a bunch of backstabbers and abused their power and got away with it and didn’t care anybody but themselves.
@Phildo8
@Phildo8 5 ай бұрын
Jim Ross has said multiple times & still says it today if asked “if it weren’t for the kliq having Shawn’s back. Chris Candito would’ve beat him up & down the hall turning him every way but loose. Everybody knew Shawn couldn’t fight. He wasn’t gonna do anything he was able to do in the ring against another grown man who wasn’t going along with it.” JR has an awesome podcast episode on that whole topic of Sunny, Shawn & Chris. The sad part was Sunny & Chris were literally “high school sweethearts” having grown up together and even going to the same college. It was Chris who had the dream of wrestling and when the promoters got a look at his girlfriend of course they pitched the idea of having her do interviews backstage, be his valet, etc. then they took off, the business was their downfall relationship wise, and the rest is as they say, history”
@grumpywolfgaming
@grumpywolfgaming Жыл бұрын
Couldn't stand most of these guys, they were selfish and had no problem burying someones career. Hall is the exception, despite his problems he had a great mind for the business and wasn't afraid to put someone over. He is also one of the biggest names in wrestling history to never win a world title.
@wrestlingwithhistory
@wrestlingwithhistory Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Love this channel! 🙏 Kliq This with Nash has been a solid podcast, one of the best to show up in the last couple years.
@KGBBooks
@KGBBooks Жыл бұрын
My favorite was when fans would chant X-PAC SUCKS at events where X-Pac wasn’t even on the card, lol
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
Same happened with Cena
@GHMYahooka
@GHMYahooka Жыл бұрын
my only issue with this video is saying vince was mad. its been said vince approved it initially but had to punish them because of people like cornette who was livid.
@davebowen5773
@davebowen5773 Жыл бұрын
Another great video from Stunned by wrestling. A bit of a double edged sword knowing what really went/goes on behind the scenes. Sometimes it’s better to believe your heroes are just that and not the villains. No one ever said life or wrestling is fair, but sometimes it’s nice to think it is. LOL.
@spanky9676
@spanky9676 Жыл бұрын
I always hated that no one could apparently spell the word “clique”
@spanky9676
@spanky9676 Жыл бұрын
@@Rockhound6165I was around in the 90s. I get that it was fashionable to misspell common words, and substitute letters to appear hip and edgy. It looked stupid then, and still does.
@simononeill5300
@simononeill5300 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember the 123kid beating Razor Ramon, it was at a time in the WWF when the weekly shows were always where the big names in the company faced opponents no one had ever heard of and they always got beaten easily and everyone thought that the 123kid would get beaten as he was an unheard wrestler.
@Showtime6192009
@Showtime6192009 Жыл бұрын
well he was not a unheard wrestler by that point has he was in the company for a few months under different gimmicks i think he was just the kid or the lighting kid when he beat Razor and that's how he got the 1-2-3 Kid Gimmick
@JosephMcEwan
@JosephMcEwan Жыл бұрын
since Triple H was punished that would allow Austin 3:16 to become a thing
@zeluxen
@zeluxen 4 ай бұрын
And hbk lost smile ended being the match were Austin truly became megastar
@zeluxen
@zeluxen 4 ай бұрын
Stone cold benefited from their unprofessional antics twice
@boredbitch666
@boredbitch666 4 ай бұрын
scsa is one of the only silver linings in the kliq's bs
@zeluxen
@zeluxen 4 ай бұрын
?????? wtf is someone inside my account I don't remember typing this (I'm not into wrestling)
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 Жыл бұрын
*'They were angels to their friends and demons to everyone else'* The Kliq made Hulk Hogan look selfless and made CM Punk look genuine haha
@lloyd9710
@lloyd9710 Жыл бұрын
i’m surprised no one stretched them in the ring you can’t use your power if your injured
@SheriffOutlaw
@SheriffOutlaw Жыл бұрын
Hogan and the Kilq is 2 reasons why WWE refuses to change.
@kazallroberts
@kazallroberts Жыл бұрын
Yup Hulk Hogan: Rock N' Wrestling Era The Kilq: The New Generation
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 Жыл бұрын
​@@kazallroberts Kliq: *New Generation and Attitude Era
@kazallroberts
@kazallroberts Жыл бұрын
@@djtrankilo231 The Kliq were pretty much gone by The Attitude Era.
@stevejamieson8468
@stevejamieson8468 Жыл бұрын
​@@kazallroberts Not really, when Kevin and Scott went to WCW, it split into kliq north and kliq south.
@kazallroberts
@kazallroberts Жыл бұрын
@@stevejamieson8468 What?
@tevincollins2869
@tevincollins2869 Жыл бұрын
The rock was to big to be bury so was stone cold Steve Austin
@sirdetmist3204
@sirdetmist3204 Жыл бұрын
The members of the kliq should be forced to pay the people whos careers they screwed over on purpose, dont know how they havent all been sued.
@Phildo8
@Phildo8 5 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m old school but I believe Miss Elizabeth was the first “First Lady of wrestling”
@HeteroMeatLoverPetrolLov-nk8qx
@HeteroMeatLoverPetrolLov-nk8qx 9 ай бұрын
Mentioning "grey wolves" outta nowhere 😅. Gr8. That's why i subscribed this channel.
@zacharythomason7359
@zacharythomason7359 Жыл бұрын
Great video my guy.
@BoereViking
@BoereViking Жыл бұрын
The thing about growing up is, you realize your childhood heroes were dooshes and the guys you disliked were and are solid!!
@tylerferguson3392
@tylerferguson3392 Жыл бұрын
Me lookin up to my uncles vs my dad. 😂
@Tafeafc
@Tafeafc Жыл бұрын
If your heroes were Mick Foley or The Rock I would say you are safe. They seem to have no blemishes on there record. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anybody has a bad word to say about those 2.
@tylerferguson3392
@tylerferguson3392 Жыл бұрын
@@Tafeafc 2012 John Cena would say a lot of bad things about the rock😂😂 lmao no but you’re right man both legends in and out of the ring!
@BoereViking
@BoereViking Жыл бұрын
@@Tafeafc well...Mick Foley is a total leftist tool and the rock is a sell out...
@jarlwhiterun7478
@jarlwhiterun7478 Жыл бұрын
Douches* You dummy.
@ronniedefelice8743
@ronniedefelice8743 Жыл бұрын
Pac just followed them around like that kid we all knew in highschool. But this is the reason HHH should never be in charge of anything backstage
@boredbitch666
@boredbitch666 4 ай бұрын
yep he's literally just booking his boys strong proof of this is everything he's done with seth rollins who's this generations triple h a brown noser to the higher ups and a guy who carries certain people's bags.
@Black-Circle
@Black-Circle Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@stryders25
@stryders25 Жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@5star_BigChief631
@5star_BigChief631 Жыл бұрын
thats why bret will always be greater than shawn micheals. he did it his way, he didnt need the kliq.
@thatdarnmage1515
@thatdarnmage1515 Жыл бұрын
Brett made his career building other wrestlers up while Shawn spent the majority of his tearing wrestlers careers apart lol
@Sammy_X7
@Sammy_X7 Жыл бұрын
Lol he had the Hart Foundation.
@5star_BigChief631
@5star_BigChief631 Жыл бұрын
@@Sammy_X7 hart foundation didn't have the same power back stage as the kliq you idiot. The kliq ran back stage and buried many wrestlers. you have no clue about wwe history! did you even see the video? Or did you just go straight to the comments?
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@Sammy_X7 Exactly.
@thebipolarbear1
@thebipolarbear1 Жыл бұрын
Waltman carrys the bag's
@die2no
@die2no 7 ай бұрын
He's a bottom feeding worm.
@Phildo8
@Phildo8 5 ай бұрын
17:04 for those who weren’t born yet and didn’t get to watch the late 80’s through the early/mid 90’s just look up “The WWF Curtain Call Incident” as he said in the video this was a time when kayfabe was heavily enforced and you’d never catch a “good guy” & a “bad guy” walking in the same area off screen let alone standing in the middle of a WWF ring after a steel cage match in the world’s most famous arena. Worth mentioning that the Steel Cage Match main event featured Kevin Nash(Heel at the time)was wrestling Michaels(baby face) HBK won of course & being Nash & Hall’s last night in the company during HBK’s celebration & music playing Nash got up & they hugged in the middle of the ring as the music still played Scott Hall(He’ll at the time) walked to the ring, very shortly followed by HHH(baby face) Whom after they had embraced other stood in a line and held each others hands up. Thus shocking the crowd not only breaking any hope of kayfabe for the older audience who had followed wrestling their whole lives but literally KILLED KAYFABE for a whole the whole younger generation erasing the “good guy vs bad guy” stuff they’d seen on tv & confirming to them “my friends were right wrestling is fake & I can’t believe I didn’t already know looking back on it) thus the now world famous “curtain call” was born bc it drew the curtain so to say on kayfabe
@ghost_304
@ghost_304 Жыл бұрын
Kliq definitely was the hated group in wrestling, think about it they destroyed WcW. Half of Kliq goes to WcW and forms another name as Nwo then it turned to NwO red almost everyone was NwO in WcW which destroyed the company lol. While the other half of Kliq formed Dx which helped change wrestling during attitude era. Talked Vince into making certain people champions and helped Push Brett Hart out , One member of Kliq Marries into McMahon family and now is part of running it. Of course there is so many other things about the Kliq lol
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 Жыл бұрын
Kliq 4 Life RIP Scott Hall
@shaquilleburton1611
@shaquilleburton1611 Жыл бұрын
Fuck them
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 4 Life 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
@ninohiggs6339
@ninohiggs6339 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Barry Harowitz many a famous wrestler would not have achieved the fame and fortune as superstardom!
@yadielenielbellecolon982
@yadielenielbellecolon982 Жыл бұрын
Thank For The Video 🙊🤯🥰💕😍👍
@CRAZYHORSE19682003
@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Жыл бұрын
The Kliq, four hall of fame wrestlers...and Sean Waldman. I guess every group needs someone to get the coffee.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 Жыл бұрын
That’s cold🤦🏾‍♂️
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu Ай бұрын
​@@vincente4570 waltman did probably bring cold coffee tbf.
@vincente4570
@vincente4570 Ай бұрын
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu u😂
@kirkhunter4602
@kirkhunter4602 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think it was the kliqs idea for one of them to marry Stephanie. All they ever talk about is taking over wrestling companies and look at triple H now. More belts than he should have and head of creative after that embarrassment of a reign of terror.
@Rid
@Rid Жыл бұрын
I’m mad y’all put that busted pic of Xpac (Lightening Kid) tho 😂😂
@KylePrime_1986
@KylePrime_1986 Жыл бұрын
They were my favorite wrestlers when I was a kid, and still are really. I hate that Scott is gone. That guy had such a great mind for the business
@randysavelljr5324
@randysavelljr5324 4 ай бұрын
"Made up their own gang sign" 😂
@CJCrump
@CJCrump Жыл бұрын
Before NWO and DX, there was The Kliq.
@Sammy_X7
@Sammy_X7 Жыл бұрын
Can you blame them? The whole nature of the business is power and bullying.
@Nomed38
@Nomed38 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ya can as furthering a horrible business culture will just ensure that only the most shitty people succeed in the business.
@lyriq0611
@lyriq0611 Ай бұрын
Makes sense why HHH’s heart gave out. Imagine the stress of having to get 4 alcoholic coke heads to the next city on time, without getting pulled over, and wrestle every night for almost 5 years
@jamesroad316
@jamesroad316 Жыл бұрын
My friends asked me why i never cared about scott halls death. I then showed them a looooong list of shitty stuff he's done and got away with
@HKBrevan
@HKBrevan Жыл бұрын
He had his own personal demons. I'm not defending what he done but he had ptsd from having to shoot a man with his own gun for his self defense. He was the most talented wrestler out of the entire kliq and his work was amazing. Bad guy but really good wrestler
@radioVHS149
@radioVHS149 Жыл бұрын
​@@HKBrevanSean Waltman destroyed people's luggage, but Shawn Michaels destroyed people's lives..
@hasanx8066
@hasanx8066 11 ай бұрын
The Illuminati of wrestling lol.
@vicalsi1568
@vicalsi1568 5 ай бұрын
Scott Hall was my favorite of the group.
@kryceksangel
@kryceksangel Жыл бұрын
I knew about the kliq when they existed. People glamorize them now but they were horrible That being said RIP Louie Spicoli and Scott Hall
@bb-gc2tx
@bb-gc2tx Жыл бұрын
the wwf pushed hbk big in 1995-96 and it flopped big time he didnt draw anything. it also didnt help that they were pushing him as their young hip star and he was still dressing like lead singer of poison at the height of grunge so out of touch
@romibodoni
@romibodoni Жыл бұрын
To be fair: around that time he became champion, WCW started the NWO angle. Imo it would have been hard for everyone to compete against Hogan, Hall and Nash, especially when you on the other hand are painted as a boring old fashioned baby face
@butchvito
@butchvito Жыл бұрын
No one was drawing shlt in '95-'96. Not even Hogan, Savage, Flair in WCW... HBK didn't get a World Title run until '96 at WM. I admit his babyface persona sucked, but his run in '97 into early '98 was some of the best heel work ever... The fans loved him when he returned in 2002. He was still doing the 80's rocker type schtick for the rest of his career and fans were still behind him. The height of Grunge in '95-'96? The Grunge trend had died out by 1995. So out of touch.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@romibodoni No. I'm a Kliq Chick. So I have love for HBK. But I can't defend a lie. HBK had a 4 month headstart as champion before the nWo even formed...
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@butchvito Grunge was big 96-99.
@powerlifting85
@powerlifting85 Жыл бұрын
​@B P nah grunge was still popular in 96, 97. Michaels could get away with the 1990 Rockstar look because he was charismatic, and women liked him. I think the rocker look fit dx way better than a grunge look would've. Ravens Flock did the grunge thing, anyway.
@Ims51
@Ims51 Жыл бұрын
The sunny/shawn/candido thing is a pathetic situation on many levels. A man cant control a women if she wants to do what sunny ended up becoming known for doing her whole career, but chris should have dropped her immediatly. i'm confused about the part with her on vacation with shawn michaels while sunny and candido were still together? Wtf.
@emanuelmartinez7267
@emanuelmartinez7267 Жыл бұрын
Probably Shawn used his clout to have Chris work a northern tour while he assumed Sunny and Shawn were working the southern tour but they were really on their own. It's not too hard to see how that scenario would play out as the wrestling thrived on house shows back then so a company as large as the WWE had up to 3 and even 4 groups of wrestlers working a specific set of cities and towns before shuffling the deck a bit and meeting back up at the TV taping or ppv. How it used to go was a few from group A would join B, some from B would join C and C and D would join the rest of A. So sonny could have been bragging about it and sharing pictures in the locker room down in Miami while Chris was in a whole nother Locker room in some small town in Arkansas
@Ims51
@Ims51 Жыл бұрын
@@emanuelmartinez7267 I understand the logistical side of it. What i find hard to understand is with how open sunny was about sleeping around.. there is no way at least a handful of people didn't call chris/or told him in person about all of that bullshit. Yet, he allowed her to keep disrespect him to the point of leaving suicide notes. So he did know abou it. I cant comprehend why he didn't kick her to the curb.
@TheyCallMeSledge
@TheyCallMeSledge Жыл бұрын
@@Ims51 Pride. Pride is the reason and perhaps the ultimate factor on why he kept Sunny despite her casually messing around with other wrestlers in higher status than him. Sunny was fine as hell, she had a sexual appeal that rivaled and perhaps even topped most adult film stars and Chris was able to call her for his own. Could he have been a simp for putting up with it, certainly though I would have to say that he was unwilling to let go the one woman who was the hottest chick in the game.
@emanuelmartinez7267
@emanuelmartinez7267 Жыл бұрын
@@Ims51 could be a similar situation to John Morrison and Melina, dude was a cuck in the purest sense of the word and as someone in a mutually agreed upon open relationship I'm definitely not kink shaming. John wasn't a guy that got off on watching his girl bang other people, by all accounts he just didn't say or do anything because he loved her so much. Some in the back would jokingly say Melina either had some serious dirt on him or she must have saved his life before because no one could figure out how such a nice and humble like johnny stayed loyal to a bitchy woman (at least in her younger days) like Melina who openly cheated on him with ALL of his co-workers. Seriously everyone said she was terrible for him and eventually lead to both of them getting let go because every time Melina was unhappy with her push or an angle she made Johnny back her up at the detriment to his own push, he was well liked in the back and management saw him as a great upper mid carder. At least he's doing much better and his relationship didn't kill his career like it did with Chris, guess things went different ways because sunny left Chris making him feel like all that sacrifice was for nothing, John finally saw Melina was no good for him and kicked her to the curb
@Ims51
@Ims51 Жыл бұрын
@@emanuelmartinez7267 thats actually a perfect comparison. Even if morrison was a cuck in every sense of the word, at the end of the day he said fuck it, and was done with her. Candido just couldn't help himself until he died.
@VoidBL
@VoidBL Жыл бұрын
Undertaker always a badass making his own crew
@dirbrody
@dirbrody Жыл бұрын
1995 really was the worst year for WWE, glad they bounced back!
@FiveNumberJonny
@FiveNumberJonny Жыл бұрын
There are soooo many videos covering this and why they were hated
@StunnedByWrestling
@StunnedByWrestling Жыл бұрын
Have another one
@butchvito
@butchvito Жыл бұрын
I respect Shane Douglas and Chris Candido, but those gimmicks Vince gave them were doomed from the start, Kliq or not. Now Bam Bam and Vader on the other hand...
@Showtime6192009
@Showtime6192009 Жыл бұрын
Bam Bam was a great heel his downfall was when Vince turned him face and Vader was never gunner be the guy, Vince never pushed something that was not his own creation
@shady3legend
@shady3legend Жыл бұрын
I think every top star has use their power or fame to politic backstage, some probably more than others like the kliq....people like to talk about how sales and whatever was down when HBK and Diesel was champion but it wasnt like it was even better when brett was champ, people just wasnt feeling WWE at the time, the product and wrestling talent was down 93 - 95 was pretty bad unitl 96 came and the rest was history
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa Жыл бұрын
X-Pac could go in the ring
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 Жыл бұрын
"If you can't have a good match with Kid (X-Pac), you can't have a good match with anybody." - Vince McMahon & Kevin Nash
@Juggalo94
@Juggalo94 Жыл бұрын
Very underrated he was up there with Shawn, Bret, & Owen
@ismaelgm13
@ismaelgm13 Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that Triple H will became not only the creative boss and married to Vince's Daugther. Sean (Xpac) will become an icon in his own t Right, Shawn Michaels los everything and comeback from the ashes to put on a decade of great matches and pushing the young boys, Nash is Nash, And Hall even though he never won a world Championship he is remembered as a great performer and a Icon.
@Josepov0128
@Josepov0128 Жыл бұрын
why am I picturing Vince asking Nash to be in the clique HEY PAL What's it gonna take to be a apart of yooous gang
@user-nd5ud7bh3j
@user-nd5ud7bh3j Жыл бұрын
Pierre was solid. He did everything with intensity.
@malcomxxx4592
@malcomxxx4592 Жыл бұрын
RIP Scott Hall
@kazallroberts
@kazallroberts Жыл бұрын
It's baffling their love by the fans yet hated by the roster, reminds of a certain someone, if you understand what I'm saying…
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 Жыл бұрын
I think some of us have just kind of see through the bullshit. “Oh, they got guys fired.” OK who? We’ve had 30 years of shoot interviews and nobody can honestly say that they were fired because of them. Shane Douglas loves making them look bad, but what Shane leaves out of his interviews are the times that guys like yokozuna and undertaker cussed him out in front of the locker room for not performing at a WWF standard. He doesn’t bring that up because then it doesn’t look like the Kliq is picking on him. It looks like well. Yeah they had a problem with him, but so did everyone else that had to work with him.
@bigdaddyrayengland5893
@bigdaddyrayengland5893 Жыл бұрын
Maybe... A certain cult of personality?
@WrexFX
@WrexFX Жыл бұрын
​​@@bdr113080 thank you, that REALLY needed to be said. Lol this vid was SO tilted, and I can't believe how many on here are replying with complete word for word belief of everything on here. Btw I love Hitman Hart but please tell me someone he HASN'T criticized or blamed from that time for everything that happened despite the fact he did pretty well for himself spot and title wise. And throwing all that suicide attempt stuff of Candido's on them is simply irresponsible reporting. Candido wasn't exactly being loyal himself and as good a talent as he was no one was gonna make that bodydonnas gimmick work, a gimmick WWE forced on him not the Kliq. His depression had a lot to do with that along with the explosive relationship he was in where there weren't any angels. It was a poisonous coupling that needed to be ended but neither would. He had zero problem banking off of the attention Sunny brought to them either. The point that he knew about the Michaels vacation and the rest yet still kept her still stands. The Kliq weren't angels and they made plenty of bad decisions but they did alotta important stuff too. The paychecks the boys make these days are heavily influenced by actions the Kliq made. It was them who would tell each other what they were getting each night so they found out how Shawn would make 30 for a run in during a match between Hall and Nash where they made 15 each. See the WWE and every other territory used to take bigtime advantage of the secrecy about money made and the paranoia running among the talents because of it. Nothing about that on here of course though because the guy had an angle he was pushing, not an interest in truth or the whole picture. This is the first vid I've watched on this channel and Christ I can see why. How about putting names on some of them quotes you put up on the screen too... Stick a name to it or don't quote it.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@bdr113080 I never heard that about Undertaker. Hahaha. When did that happen?
@user-qr9dn5ge1q
@user-qr9dn5ge1q Күн бұрын
​@@bdr113080 Kliq mark
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 Жыл бұрын
Triple H wrestled Henry Godwin in 1995, BEFORE the curtain call in 1996... 18:03
@shellbacksclub
@shellbacksclub Жыл бұрын
These are grown ass men remember.
@Eastsid3
@Eastsid3 Жыл бұрын
Sad that a lot of these guys have put memorable performances but have also manipulating the business
@catchcan221
@catchcan221 Жыл бұрын
This is why guys like Rock, Bret and Austin will always be more respected than guys like Michaels, HHH and Nash. The former got to the top on their merits and their merits alone. They didn’t destroy other human beings to get to the top. They did it the right way.
@tertmade9769
@tertmade9769 Жыл бұрын
Bret the legend helped Rock and Steve, then they got so over and became legends themselves, and those two he helped created their best rivalries in WWE history
@therealdeal94
@therealdeal94 Жыл бұрын
@Tert Made Yup. Wish HBK and Rock had some matches, but you know... egos.
@therealdeal94
@therealdeal94 Жыл бұрын
They are respected, tho, maybe not as every day, people, but at least what they've done inside the ring. And Vince deserves every bit of blame himself. How do you let 2, let alone 5 people run your company before you do? No excuses on their part, but when you're the boss, you're supposed to call the shots. Not your guys.
@syedbadshah12345
@syedbadshah12345 Жыл бұрын
All except Austin. He was the biggest backstage politician who never put anyone over cleanly. He also beat his wife and got away with it.
@tertmade9769
@tertmade9769 Жыл бұрын
@@syedbadshah12345 Where you get this info?
@iamthewalruscuckookachoo1372
@iamthewalruscuckookachoo1372 Жыл бұрын
Jim Cornettes life has been shortened considerably after the Curtain Call fiasco lol.
@ABD-pc3jf
@ABD-pc3jf Жыл бұрын
It's funny that when I call out these guys, people on the internet give me a lot of grief. But these guys deserve every negative criticism they get. Especially Nash with his "vanilla midget" remarks that clowns still use today
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 7 ай бұрын
It's ironic because he was the definition of vanilla in the ring. He barely had any moves and was so lazy that he'd do everything he could to get out of wrestling, yet still thought he deserved to take the title off of Goldberg when he didn't even need it.
@adizz4115
@adizz4115 Жыл бұрын
Kliq is Wolfpack + Dx
@extremepop324
@extremepop324 Жыл бұрын
When is the John Cena episode coming?
@curtiswilliams5223
@curtiswilliams5223 8 ай бұрын
It really depended on who you were in the locker room
@VOAN
@VOAN Жыл бұрын
I believe the locker room only had issue with HBK and Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, X-Pac, and Triple H aren't as hated. For one Triple H was more respectful and safe in the ring and Kevin Nash doesn't do drama backstage, both only got point the finger cause they hang out with Hall and Michaels. Same for Waltman. HBK is like the main boss of the group, he doesn't want someone else above him unless he gets his way. Scott Hall is like the second in command and is usually the one that makes fun of most of the guys in the locker room especially Bret and Bulldog. This is why when Jeff Hardy first wrestled him, he almost made Jeff wanted to quit wrestling but then later Jeff wrestled X-Pac which made him change his mind as X-Pac was a more safer and respectful worker.
@Alison31648
@Alison31648 11 ай бұрын
Na Scott Hall wasn't as bad as you put it He didn't mind putting anyone over it's just his personal demons that got the better of him
@johncook9392
@johncook9392 Жыл бұрын
Personally I LOVED Scott Hall/Razor Ramon, I consider him to be one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time... With that, I never liked a single other wrestler that was in the Kliq!
@JoshuaRicamonte-cr4oh
@JoshuaRicamonte-cr4oh 11 ай бұрын
Who is more iconic wrestler Is it Scott hall Randy savage Hulk hogan Kevin Nash Or ultimate warrior
@tommydeamon7657
@tommydeamon7657 Жыл бұрын
You make the rules and we will break them
@markrobinson9394
@markrobinson9394 Жыл бұрын
You could take Hall, Waltman, Nash and Hunter out, and they’d still be the most hated group in wrestling history.
@crux33
@crux33 Жыл бұрын
Yet all these fanboys saying Bret a bitter crybaby for calling these a-holes out and telling the facts
@rosedillinger4994
@rosedillinger4994 Жыл бұрын
What about B.S.K. video
@keithwiggins3131
@keithwiggins3131 Жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan would have fit right in with the kliq that just my opinion.
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 Жыл бұрын
They had good moments but mostly it is sad that they cut people's careers short left bad stains on what were legendary careers in pro wrestling and even though I am a fan of Nash, Hall, and Xpac I always wondered what it would have been like if they didn't get all the pull they got I actually don't think those three were the worst more so H and HBK 90% of the kliq stories that involved people being screwed over were those 2
@grumpywolfgaming
@grumpywolfgaming Жыл бұрын
you realize hall helped a ton of peoples careers right? He helped get DDP over, he came up with stings crow gimmick. He had a great mind for the business and put people over. Notice how he never had a world title? He was a good guy plagued by his past.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
@@grumpywolfgaming He was returning the favor. DDP got him over. He wasn't getting a lot of traction as Coyote or as Hennig's part. When ddp made him the Diamond Studd character, that was the spark for Razor Ramon.
@josephmayberry3638
@josephmayberry3638 Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Scott Hall your demons won 😢
@zt1053
@zt1053 Ай бұрын
Austin is lucky he arrived in the WWF as the kliq was dispanding
@abelincoln6735
@abelincoln6735 Жыл бұрын
They speak about the cliq, like the group had way more than 5 people
@andu1854
@andu1854 Жыл бұрын
Their power and influence and the fact that Nash Hall and HHH are really big men, they had the Heavyweight champ,
@vxrdrummer
@vxrdrummer 6 ай бұрын
You painted this perfectly. I'm angry watching this as I hate people like the Cliq. Everytime I watch something about them I'm angry. I've known a situation like this in my own job, and it was horrible. The big boss just let it happen and was sucked into being part of it. Scumbags.
@thebigivalbowlski
@thebigivalbowlski Жыл бұрын
i wonder when Shawn became a born again Christian what he e like in the locker room? I mean he was still a part of the Kliq in a sense.
@The1987Kid
@The1987Kid Жыл бұрын
I never put anyone on a pedestal as a hero, they are human, that’s the first mistake people make, there were numerous “cliques” in the back, you had BSK (Undertaker’s group) the Hart family including Bulldog and Anvil etc. it was a fractured locker room in the early to late mid 90s, it’s just Shawn and his group where more ruthless and cutthroat, it was every man for themselves, look how Bret Hart got his brother Owen and his brother in law the Bulldog in main event situation, you think the boys liked that Bret was politicking for his family monopolize the top spots? And putting them in long term storylines?
@Nomed38
@Nomed38 Жыл бұрын
I won't dispute anything you've said as that is a fool's errand. I can appreciate the work the professional wrestlers put it though I despise the industry due to it's notorious politicking and if anyone wants to dispute that fact all they have to do is look at the samoan jackasses that vinny kenny mcminnie's house of big sweaty men props up as the greatest ever.
@pedroh.6886
@pedroh.6886 Жыл бұрын
this is what happens when there is no real competition in the ring those who are most successful are not always those who deserve it most.
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 7 ай бұрын
It's one thing to put people on but another to get people fired/to quit.
@c1dotzsxjigga940
@c1dotzsxjigga940 Жыл бұрын
Bob holly please
@jojobeware4873
@jojobeware4873 Жыл бұрын
Justin Credible should've been an official member of the kilq!
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 Жыл бұрын
He was offered, but the schedule conflicted with his Olive Garden schedule...
@Cannonboy369
@Cannonboy369 Жыл бұрын
I've hated Shawn Micheal, I stopped watching wrestling because of him. Hated him since he kicked his Team Mate in the Rock stars, Couldn't watch WWE anymore, still wasn't impressed the Rock. Hogan was my guy but after all the crap I,ve heard of him from these videos I'm sorry for even being a fan then. I can't stand wrestling now, it's such a joke.
@justinmercado1185
@justinmercado1185 9 ай бұрын
Madison square garden incident created Austin 3:16. Let that sink in… Triple H’s push derailed for Austin…
@radioVHS149
@radioVHS149 Жыл бұрын
Aldo Montoya was Kliq wasn't he?..
@notsupposed2583
@notsupposed2583 Жыл бұрын
Was the BSK Undertaker's way to counteract the Kliq?
@DodumBhai1996
@DodumBhai1996 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so,they have no history together and Bsk were just a group made to chill and spend time with friends outside WWF...not ruin others careers
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@DodumBhai1996 Kliq was the same. They didn't ruin careers either.
@DodumBhai1996
@DodumBhai1996 Жыл бұрын
@@Speedyreedy1218 running a whole company by their own choice somehow destroys others career,and their choices didn't even benefitted anyone anyways
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын
@@DodumBhai1996 They didn't run a whole company by their own choice. Neither did they destroy careers.
@kdawg1658
@kdawg1658 Жыл бұрын
These dudes had real heat these some of my favorite wrestlers tho but the backstage politics had alot of wrestlers under there skin these dudes were willing too do anything too be at the top but I'm glad they stuck by each other even tho I might have done some of the wrong things to keep success Rest in peace scott hall one of the best 2 ever do it
@TenchiYuudai
@TenchiYuudai Жыл бұрын
1996 Shawn Michaels would be fired so fast now a day. People can't handle shit anymore
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