Submarines 101 - From the Depths

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How to sub:
1. Build a sub. 🐟
2. Eat a sub. 🥪
3. Like, comment and sub. 👍
Sub Examples on the Workshop! steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Ze Beginning
0:20 - Sub Overview
1:39 - Unpowered Control Subs vs. Powered Control Subs
2:18 - Unpowered - Hydrofoil Sub
6:03 - Unpowered - Rudder Sub
6:55 - Intermission: Using Underwater Aerial Maneuver
11:44 - Powered - Prop Sub
14:29 - Powered - Dediblades
16:35 - Intermission - Active and Passive Sonar Detection
17:20 - Whoops
18:13 - Powered - Ion Sub (Flying Sub!)
18:44 - Intermission - Strategic Fast Subs
21:02 - 'Flying Sub' ACB Setup
23:29 - Silent Ion Stealth Subs
25:31 - Torp-Dodging Subs
25:43 - Powered - Steam Jets (Space Sub!)
28:40 - Extra Submarine Tips!
Channel Membership: / @borderwise12
BorderWise Twitch: / borderwise
BorderWise Facebook page: -f BorderWise12...
BorderWise Twitter: / borderwiseweta
BorderWise Patreon: / borderwise
Outro Music: : Different Heaven: OMG: • Different Heaven - OMG...
Other music used:
Chris Haugen - Campfire Song
Chris Haugen - Ibiza_Dream
Chris Haugen - Tupelo_Train
Chris Haugen - Way_Out_West
Dan Lebowitz - Birds in Flight
Dan Lebowitz - Forgiven Fate
Dan Lebowitz - Hickory Hollow
Dan Lebowitz - Lost & Found
From the Depths on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/26...
I had nothing to do with the development of this game. All rights to From the Depths belong to Brilliant Skies Limited. Please do not upload this video elsewhere without my permission.
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@MrBobcanoosh 3 жыл бұрын

"I was starting to get a bit silly here..." as the submarine starts Tokyo-drifting in space.

@Attaxalotl 3 жыл бұрын

*Deja Vu!*

@jimitaco1303 Жыл бұрын

"I woke up in a car that was Tokyo-drifting everywhere..."

@Galvin09670 3 жыл бұрын

"There are more planes in the sea, than submarines in the sky" eh? Borderwise: "Oh really?" *Meanwhile in Space*

@drunkengibberish1143 3 жыл бұрын

Who needs people to give them subs when you can make them yourself! Either way I think a lot of people appreciate this, me included. Already subbed tho :D

@James-ep2bx 3 жыл бұрын

While it's true simple weapons are mostly useless against underwater targets, the fact some use advanced cannon ammo does mean some aren't completely useless, as cavitation rounds are available to them

@harveywest6699 3 жыл бұрын

This guy deserves way more subs. Never been this early before.

@Razzlion 3 жыл бұрын

At least 2 more subs!

@kimraudenbush615 4 ай бұрын

😂 Wait... 🤔 Was that an accidental pun?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

10/02/2022 Edit: As of BetaTest Update, you can no longer use rudders as improvised hydrofoils. It has been pointed out that I completely forgot about using air pumps to control altitude in a sub. Whoops! Sorry about that. 😅 Also, Time Stamps: 0:00 - Ze Beginning 0:20 - Sub Overview 1:39 - Unpowered Control Subs vs. Powered Control Subs 2:18 - Unpowered - Hydrofoil Sub 6:03 - Unpowered - Rudder Sub 6:55 - Intermission: Using Underwater Aerial Maneuver 11:44 - Powered - Prop Sub 14:29 - Powered - Dediblades 16:35 - Intermission - Active and Passive Sonar Detection 17:20 - Whoops 18:13 - Powered - Ion Sub (Flying Sub!) 18:44 - Intermission - Strategic Fast Subs 21:02 - 'Flying Sub' ACB Setup 23:29 - Silent Ion Stealth Subs 25:31 - Torp-Dodging Subs 25:43 - Powered - Steam Jets (Space Sub!) 28:40 - Extra Submarine Tips!

@michaelriley4100 3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Played with that and it doesn't work as you would think.

@MrLundkaer 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelriley4100 I don't know how you would like them to work, but i like to build as close to reality as possible, so i use hydrofoils and air pumps ;)

@darthkarl99 3 жыл бұрын

Air pumps for subs are really mpractical because any breech throws some aspect way off. They can be useful for trimming, but your sub should ideally control fine with full flood.

@michaelriley4100 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrLundkaer Updates could have changed them, as when I was testing them (6 or so months ago) the whole idea of ballast tanks was a no go. Tbh I didn't think about adding hydrofoils to my build at the time.

@MrLundkaer 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthkarl99 You should always build in redundancy regardless what system you use. But i like (nerd) to build as close to real physics as i can, and to me a Typhoon ssbn should not have altitude propellers. The game is what you make it, it's all about having fun.

@drdoofus3173 3 жыл бұрын

oh god, i needed this.

@TophatnTea 3 жыл бұрын

These videos are always so amazingly useful, watching it gave me a brilliantly funny idea for a sub! Thank you!!!

@kimraudenbush615 4 ай бұрын

Very nice, very nice... Maybe you could do an "advanced submarine" miniseries? A WW2-style Attack sub (US Balao-class, German Type VIIC and Type XXI, as examples), a cruiser sub (French Surcouf), modern Attack sub (Seawolf-class, Alfa-class, and Akula-class), a couple of missile subs (the Ohio-class and Typhoon-class come to mind), and an uber-submarine combining the best features of all of the previous designs...

@TheFearsomeRat 3 жыл бұрын

Conveniently released video is conveniently released. But in all seriousness... I just spent the last like 2 or 3 days just planning designs, four of which are submarines, out of like... almost 50 most of which are ground vehicles of some sort including about 12 Mechs/Walkers. One of which uses exclusively energy weapons I've planned something like 13 PACs, 6 0Q Lasers, 18 2Q lasers, 17 4Q Lasers 16 of which double as CWIS with the last one being mounted under the "waist" as a defensive turret, and all powered by a MASSIVE electric engine.... I figured I was already going overboard when I decided on a Hexapod, so I went the extra mile, grabbed a picture of the Cybran Cicada from SupCom2 to use as reference for the design. As for the Submarines, the largest one, I asked myself how many Torpedos I wanted... all I said was Yes, but it's also meant to kill other Subs.

@Oldsoldiersays 3 жыл бұрын

on rudders you can set it to not go full on one way or another, under advance settings it allows them to smoothly transition

@baggiestshelf5822 Жыл бұрын

I’m working on my version of the Flying Dutchman and this is very useful

@CatNibbles 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again borderwise!

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 😁

@tortugagreen9924 3 жыл бұрын

One trick you can use for VLS sub missiles is to put aux. props on them, so that they go up _really_ quickly. There's not too many benefits over ballast tanks, but for niche situations like angled-launch missiles or if you're worried about missile lifespan, it sharply increases the rate at which missiles surface

@Justfalor 3 жыл бұрын

A vehicle type I avoid like the plague, but a nice video after a rough dentist appointment. Thanks m8

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Hope the teeth are alright. 😁

@theapexdragon5010 3 жыл бұрын

Thought I joined the game when everyone forgot. Saw your notification and hope flooded me, earned your self a sub.

@parraguin8679 3 жыл бұрын

One might add that you can do the surfacing thing without ACBs and PIDs, just with the AI adjustments.

@lukasgronbergs2058 3 жыл бұрын

Really good video, will subscribe

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Woohoo! Cheers!

@Derzull2468 7 ай бұрын

I've never had motion sickness from a game, your sub did it.

@jflask615 3 жыл бұрын

Your video inspired me to make another submarine design

@ttpechon2535 3 жыл бұрын

Was literally just watching The Rc Sub Guy (He builds/operates rc subs)

@meridian5834 Жыл бұрын

You've made the aquatic cousin of the flying squirrel!

@melikesmilkshakes1313 3 жыл бұрын

YUS FINALLY

@akiamini4006 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the pid thingy bruv , i struggle with movement control im below 100 hts with this game

@nicopence3148 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@Tewemeh2ter 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video showcasing all your current up to date craft? I'm actually interested in that.

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Ok!

@maxspinks2181 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. Can you do one about stealth?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Sure!

@drivver4470 3 жыл бұрын

a thing that i have noticed is that missiles dont like behaving when the craft is going faster than 60 meters in the air having ejectors fix this issue here 35:03 that is the first time ive seen that issue for subs going less than 20 m/s

@saber-jocky3436 3 жыл бұрын

Borderwise! Altitude settings with and without enemies are the perfect use of a breadboard! Do we need another Ohm intervention?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Nope, he already intervened. XD

@Cobrax_x 3 жыл бұрын

Any good large attack submarines on the steam workshop (Megalodon cost)? I just created a submarine hunter called the deep sea leviathan on the steam workshop, but submarines are not a filter option, so I couldn't find a sub their that could really put up a challenge for it.

@zoltek6507 3 жыл бұрын

Tip by the way: When working with detection range, add a extra 0 to the end

@HomeworldChanal 2 жыл бұрын

Why?

@oseansoldier 2 жыл бұрын

I was trying to make a sub that uses hydrofoils and surfaces out of combat, but it always sits on the surface even in combat. I used the ACB to set the limits to 0 and -50, but don't know what to set the output on the PID since it doesn't use thrusters to control its altitude.

@andrelanger8396 3 жыл бұрын

It looks like a mini Shark type submarine

@oliverannibal2836 3 жыл бұрын

Cheesy shenanigans

@3dwrecker_4660 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful! my subs shall be better than they were.

@ttpechon2535 3 жыл бұрын

You should do a heli tutorial or build video, I think that would be fun and cool

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Already did! 😁 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpppn8Z_urynaYU.html

@joelwelch161 2 жыл бұрын

“Forward rotated clockwise to the left”

@shooterdefronvrps2 3 жыл бұрын

I've heard of spaceship Yamato, but never of a spaceship type VII U-boat

@Jay-mq2ng 2 жыл бұрын

Because just like the real U Boats. When you detect them. They sink tou

@scurtus1885 2 жыл бұрын

Still think their could be a simple weapon that launches depth charges

@atomicrc_8303 2 жыл бұрын

great video but i have a question, how do you get the propellers or dediblade setup to stay at an altitude and not use literally every other propeller? (when i try to set up an ai it does what it wants nomatter what i do). ive tried the ftd discord but everyone else seems to have a background in engineering or just ignores me and thinks im an idiot :/

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the main FtD Discord is kinda cold sometimes. 😅 You have to set the propellers pointing down/up with the Q menu to respond to push/altitude commands. Then use either the AI adjustments tab to set your preferred atitude, or use a PID. I have a super basic PID tutorial on the channel somewhere that's still mostly up to date, I think. Hope that helps!

@atomicrc_8303 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 im giving up for today, dont want a headache before i go into work .-.

@atomicrc_8303 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 so i found your sub example links in the description, you have no idea how much that helps seeing how you set up the pids.

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! 😁

@blaztercon8776 8 ай бұрын

Well a submarine is just a underwater blimp, so it makes sense it uses aerial ai 😂

@Myrmidal Жыл бұрын

So i'm a new player so may just be very confused about this, but if you use the custom props they seem to have no sonar signature at all... which gives an interesting passive sonar signature of 8 meters to my sub instead of a few hundred with a large regular prop

@BorderWise12 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that might not be intentional. Good for stealth though! 😁

@Attaxalotl 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know rubber improves stealth. Will be using on my Stealth Corvette

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Only for radar and sonar, mind you. It doesn't work to reduce visual or IR visibility.

@Attaxalotl 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Gotcha

@kimpatz2189 3 жыл бұрын

The SeaWing/SkyWing submarine in Red Alert 3. It can fly and swim underwater.

@TheFearsomeRat 3 жыл бұрын

There is an old game called Seablade, it's for the OG Xbox, but in it you use a fighter aircraft that is also capable of being a Submarine.

@sebl637 Жыл бұрын

While trying to replicate the diving flying ion submarine I can make it hover using the regular AI but it won't switch automatically between flying and diving because of conflict of minimum altitude... I copied your AI settings with the PIDs and ACBs but it just stays on the surface .. I do have upward facing thrusters and they are set to push. I am also annoyed that it doesn't hover in place but you seem to have the same issue.. How do you make it work? Must be an AI settings I am missing.

@BorderWise12 Жыл бұрын

Have you enabled the AI to hover, and do you have thruster pitch and roll control as well?

@sebl637 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Yes I do and it can hover just fine if I hard set the minimum altitude to 50m. It just drops to the water when I copy your settings in the AI, the ACBs and PIDs... I will give it another go after work.

@sebl637 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 It seems it is mostly working now albeit it is hovering at 7m instead of 50... Not 100* satisfied since I seem to have fixed it by adding hover and combat maneuver AI behavior cards... it is still going in circles just like yours, seems that the right turning thruster does not want to stop.... will require more fine tuning but I wanted to say thanks for all the knowledge you share and for responding to comments!

@addisonchow9798 3 жыл бұрын

Borderwise, what do you think about Lathrix's distraction stick strategy?

@stanb1455 3 жыл бұрын

I think their cheesy, but neat. Mmm, mozzarella and chedder cheese sticks...

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

It's perfectly fine, but it doesn't always work. I usually get better results with just regular flares.

@BryanPlaysAlot 2 жыл бұрын

amazing guide! but by god why didn't you upload them to the workshop so people can have a look at them ingame?

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Wish granted! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2811867348

@BryanPlaysAlot 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 WOW! thank you so much, literally 1 hour after i posted this wtf you are fast :D i got inspired to buy the game by Larthlands Adventure Series 2021 where he played though with a sub, now i am 30 hours into the game and still didn't manage to build one yet, but with your upload and this guide i am sure i will get there in no time

@vegtamthewanderer1516 3 жыл бұрын

Now i can finish my huge red October

@ranekeisenkralle8265 3 жыл бұрын

are you basing it on the actual layout? Or just the movie-version?

@vegtamthewanderer1516 3 жыл бұрын

@@ranekeisenkralle8265 basically just the look of the Red October, its missles are much more numerous and larger than the one carried in real life

@ranekeisenkralle8265 3 жыл бұрын

@@vegtamthewanderer1516 so the movie version then. Too bad. Also, no, they are not. Not really anyways. thing is, on the real thing the tubes are not exactly ...accessible as they are in a free-flood area. The SSN-20 (which the Typhoon carried) have a diameter - the missile mind you - of 2.4 meters, which is more than the tubes in the movie had

@Cobrax_x 3 жыл бұрын

Is it on the workshop?

@tjokflots Жыл бұрын

Where do you get electric regeneration from? I see an electric engine. Did i miss something?

@BorderWise12 Жыл бұрын

RTGs or steam engines are usually the best options for that.

@tjokflots Жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 Yes, my submarine is almost half RTG's but I don't see any on this craft. That's why i'm asking.

@themigman691 3 жыл бұрын

I cant get my ai to keep it under the water or when I does it slams itself into the sea floor. Anyone have any ideas?

@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын

A simple way to do this, put a few up and down pointing props on the vehicle, set them to respond to vertical commands, then put a pid set to read altitude, control vertical movement, then set the desired level to minus the depth you want. Ugly, but it works.

@userunfriendly9304 2 жыл бұрын

what about submarines controlled with ballast?

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I completely forgot about them unfortunately. 😅

@userunfriendly9304 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 I have a submarine that I've been working on that uses that. Its larger and only missile and torpedo based kinda like real life subs.

@userunfriendly9304 2 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 working out ballast threshholds would probably be a longer video because of how tedious it can get.

@monsterkicker291 3 жыл бұрын

Yay, I don't know what I'm doing

@Tehn00bA 3 жыл бұрын

Really good guide!! (but god that shaking screen gave me headache. @_@)

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sorry. I keep forgetting I have more tolerance for that than a lot of people.

@Tehn00bA 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 no worries mate.

@mindpotato 3 жыл бұрын

whats the pid settings for the prop sub?

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

I don't quite remember, but the default values I use for general PIDs are P=0.5, I=250 and D=0.5.

@mindpotato 3 жыл бұрын

@@BorderWise12 thanks this fixed all my problems and now my nuclear submarine can dominate the deep water guard! lol

@TheSkreeBat 2 жыл бұрын

i will need o re watch the vid sometime, i copied the AI from the video but it just stays on the surface :c

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure all the propulsion and control surfaces are set to respond to the right input. They usually default to respond to pitch.

@nickandres7829 5 ай бұрын

Tried following this video, absolutely cannot figure out how to get submarines to work for the life of me. No matter how I adjust the settings, they always want to ride along the surface, even if I make them too heavy to do so.

@BorderWise12 5 ай бұрын

Are you sure the altitude settings are right?

@nickandres7829 5 ай бұрын

@@BorderWise12 I'm not sure any settings are right. I followed the video for the hydrofoils and the altitude controls, but I altered the shape a little and added more internal space for torpedoes. At first I tried to make it out of alloy and use the control surfaces to maintain depth, but that didn't work. However even if I make it negatively buoyant, it always wants its nose above the surface. It's set to want to seek an altitude of -80 meters. I even took it to the From The Depths forum and was basically told that there's no one reason why it won't work and that new players should avoid messing with things other than surface ships until they know what they're doing. I'm just trying to fill out my checklist of ships to take on the campaign after 10 years of owning the game, but I've only managed to get working surface ships so far. I'll try a build where I copy block by block and also try some other submarine tutorials. I sincerely appreciate that you reached out, though!

@BorderWise12 5 ай бұрын

@@nickandres7829 Yup, FtD Official is not always helpful. 😅 Did you set the forward pitch to respond to input properly? It doesn't do that by default, you need to switch it. Turning off automatic propulsion might also help.

@dripthanos5595 3 жыл бұрын

your subs are kinda like sharks, if they dont move they are basically as good as (ai) dead

@MrLundkaer 3 жыл бұрын

You forgot air pumps.

@BorderWise12 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, bugger, you're right. I never use them on subs. 🤦‍♂️

@Jawzah 3 жыл бұрын

sub ... don't eat that stuff.

@AFlyingBanana10 2 жыл бұрын

your tutorials are too long

@BorderWise12 2 жыл бұрын

From the Depths is very, very complex. Even with videos this long I still leave things out, both deliberately and accidentally. If you want quick and easy answers, this is not the game for you.