Subwoofer Crossover: Best Settings For Home Theater And Home Audio Systems

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Is your understanding of Subwoofer Crossover points sub par? Chief Product Officer Andrew Welker has you covered in this video. It's easy to see why it's confusing when you look at the main points that are reviewed 👇
• Crossover Setting Switch Or Rotary Control Settings Answered Painlessly (But With Hertz)
• AVR Crossover Setting, How To Handle The Double Crossover Dilemma In Your Home Theater
• When To Use The LFE Input / Switch
• What To Do If You're Using A Stereo Receiver Or Integrated Amp Without A Sub Output
"Subwoofer Crossover: Best Settings?" is the first video in our new series of videos called "Quick Tips". This series leans to the practical instead of the theoretical. It will focus on answering frequently asked questions and providing the solutions. We look forward your comments, questions, and suggestions they are the inspiration for upcoming video topics.
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@Sam-ch9mn 2 жыл бұрын

Andrew, you helped me some time ago with a similar question for which I’m grateful. You really help to take the mystery out of audio/video settings with these straightforward explanations. You are now my go-to channel for advice and I’m now busy working on toeing-in my main speakers… or not, based on another of your videos. Great to have an experienced and authoritative advisor.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to have helped! Look forward to hearing where you ended up on the toe in matter.

@rezzzzmeeee3046 6 ай бұрын

I’m a major rookie I need set up for dummies definitely your tips on the LFE were exactly what I was wondering on my subwoofer appreciate it. Thank you.

@josephfranzen5626 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, I’ve finally saved enough to upgrade to a complete Axiom setup this summer. That being said I’ve been enjoying my existing Mirage collection which you engineered. It includes a pair of OMD-28’s an OMD-C2, a pair of OM-9’s and a pair of Omni 260’s with 6 OMD-5’s for my height layer and 4 BPS-400’s for sub duty. My bedroom system is a pair of OM-5’s which I absolutely love. Needless to say your being at Axiom is what attracted me to the brand and for about six months now I’ve been saving and planning to upgrade my Atmos system to an Axiom setup. I recently picked up a pair of M-80’s off the second hand market and was absolutely blown away. You guys are truly a hidden gem in a market saturated with under whelming products advertised with marketing buzzwords. Keep up the amazing work!

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Wow, that is quite the collection of Mirage models…I don’t think I have that many myself. I’m glad you’re enjoying the M80s!

@graspingoil Жыл бұрын

Thank you for being straight to the point and giving practical advice. You gave solution and clear rationale behind it.

@Vitone22 Жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Thanks

@wekkimeif7720 9 ай бұрын

I've gone with old classic Rel Q50 for my setup and this video helped to configure it right, thanks :D

@ChrisWilliams-vm1do 2 ай бұрын

Thank you. I know nothing about any of this and you explained it simple enough for me to successfully set up my audio. Use the tuners crossover (80hz), take the woofers crossover out of play by turning the dial to the highest frequency. Done. No other video I watched broke it down like that.

@TOTALLYTMAC 2 ай бұрын

OMG! Thank you so much Andrew. I've been doing so much research on soooo many sound variables with regard to my home theater room to achieve the best results. I'm getting the new Klipsch RP 1400sw subwoofer for my system tomorrow and I had no idea what to set the low pass filter to. I knew that the sub had as LFE input and I was aware that it was the proper input to use. However, I did not know by using that input, I didn't have to worry about a hz setting on the low pass filter because the sub would automatically allow the AVR to do the integration with the other speakers. Now that I understand that, that's one less thing I need to be concerned about! Your simple explanantion relieved some of my anxiety and for that I"m truly grateful!

@HB92647 11 ай бұрын

Super helpful. Thank you very much for

@muhammedjihad584 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much dude thank you I had my subwoofer at 80 hurt and it didn’t sound real good so I proved it up and it sounds way better in the movies. Thank you.

@roberteshaw4590 2 жыл бұрын

Andrew, Always appreciated. Sometimes the simplest of things are never addressed. The AVR example is one, LFE as you said but, ultimately let the AVR's settings do the job. Excellent point. And as for 2 channel, just simply making the integration seamless, so it sounds as though the bass is coming directly through your speakers. SVS is my favorite as their higher end models offer a blue tooth setting, whereas you can sit in you favorite chair with remote and avoid constantly getting up for further adjustments. Easier on back too. Thanks so much for your video's and tips. Robert TN PS I'm sending a response to an earlier post about speaker grills, YES, I do prefer mine off when listening. Not a Giant leap forward, but, as you said in the higher frequency ranges somewhat notable. Thanks

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your comments, Robert! There are so many settings, particularly within the context of a home theater system, that’s is so easy for the little things to get lost amount the myriad of configurations, etc. These quick tips will hopefully help with those simpler topics.

@aounay Ай бұрын

Thank you for this video

@arnelvega7083 Жыл бұрын

Hey mate, this video of yours truly helps a lot how to croosover a subwoofer. I set my croosover to my Yamaha reciever to each of my speakers and usually set my subwoofer croosover and gain to half volume and keep experimenting then turn the subwoofer croosover all the way to 120 hz then wow the sound is soo clear + deep bass especially in Dolby Atmos 👍🙏

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Excellent news, thanks for taking the time to let me know the video was helpful! Enjoy your system.

@Cuzin_Ken 2 жыл бұрын

What an informative video. So well explained. Keep up the great work!

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it enough to comment, thank you.

@colinowens1318 Жыл бұрын

What an easy to follow and cogent explanation. Thank you!!

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful, and thank you for taking the time to say so!

@bfilz 2 жыл бұрын

Great video...thanks for sharing!

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it enough to comment, cheers!

@rogerlucas8833 Ай бұрын

Thanks

@JayJay-jx3zg 3 ай бұрын

Great video, thank you. Now i need another video on what to set the LPF for LFE frequency to vs all the other speakers in my 7.2.4 system.

@invisibles362 2 жыл бұрын

Extremely good information, I had the settings on my subwoofers in my home theater set to 80hz. After watching your video, I turn the crossover to bypass, so my home theater processor do the job by itself. Really good information. Hope you do more for home theater subwoofer settings, you really explain it good.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that’s great to hear! I’ll try to cover more subwoofer topics in future videos.

@invisibles362 2 жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters can't wait. Thanks

@roberteshaw4590 Жыл бұрын

Andrew, always a good topic. Good refresher course. Thank you

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to comment.

@levishorkie2554 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. I have a sound bar and wireless rear speakers. The tv has no rca outs. If use optical out and convert it to rca and connect to a powered subwoofer will I get independent sound from the subwoofer?

@garygray3834 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir as always great tips I really appreciate it 👍

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, and thank you for taking the time to comment.

@sercso Жыл бұрын

Andrew, thanks ! You helped me about my freq.settings. I have an old (2018) Jamo sub. Jamo sub has two rotary. One is Hz, its OK:)) Second is the LEVEL rotary. (minus endless to zero) My question is what level setting should I adjust on sub when I calibrating my pioneer vsx933 with its own microphone? By the way what level setting is recommended by the LEVEL rotary?

@stephenperthwa Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, I have a denon avr-x960h receiver and two older Yamaha yst-sw305 subwoofers connected. Based on your video would I be correct in setting my avr crossover to 80 or 90 Hz and set the “high cut” dial to its maximum of 140Hz. Thanks Stephen

@randy1616randy 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting and informative, as always. Thanks! I look forward to your posts. For some reason, I couldn't recall what LFE abbreviated... , I was thinking Low Frequency ... E-something. Finally had to look it up. :) Encoding. Doesn't sound right, but I looked it up on the internet so it must be true.🙃

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear, thank you! And it actually stands for Low Frequency Effects 🙃

@donaldgervais1836 Жыл бұрын

Question that I have not been able to get an answer to. In the AVR settings for the sub LPF for LFE, 80 Hz or 120 Hz? Mains are set to 80 Hz xover.

@davidjudd951 9 ай бұрын

When replacing a crossover, should the new crossover assembly be mounted on the back, or bottom of the speaker box? Im currently in the process of replacing the crossovers in a pair of budget speakers, where the old crossovers were tiny, and attached to the back of the speaker power input connectors. The new crossovers are considerably larger.

@mickael486 Жыл бұрын

Thx! But what about that "Normal/Reverse" switch?

@robertzenniful 5 ай бұрын

Great video of watch numerous ones and you really explained this one well, perhaps you can help me? I have a dent on AVR X6400H , with a pair of Polk Audio RT 3000s they are older speakers, but they have satellites on top and subs below so I’m basically running two subs on each side of the room with a dedicated LFE line ,should I run Main or Main+LFE

@djgazaaka5000 4 ай бұрын

Question, so if the subwoofer have deep mood, should I keep it on or off if I’m using the corssover ?

@Handi2478 2 ай бұрын

My AVR’s manual clearly states to set the subwoofer volume midrange & the cutoff to max. And the AVR handles the cutoff.

@BobGeogeo 2 жыл бұрын

One thing to add from experience: Power outages. I'm mostly a 2 channel listener now. I have an AVR that can control crossover. But when the power goes out it goes back to defaults. I like using the physical crossover dial on my sub since that stays put. The starting point of 80 Hz seems to work well with my M3Ti's. The sub is a small basic 1010 from ELAC.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

That’s very strange that you’re AVR does not have non-volatile memory that saves your settings when power is disconnected, but I understand completely why you prefer in physical crossover dial!

@BobGeogeo 2 жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters It's a Panasonic about 15 years old. Short outages don't matter but we've had some outages over a day where the settings are lost.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

@@BobGeogeo Ah, that’s probably the difference. Sometimes the memory is backed up by a large value capacitor that will keep the settings for a short time, but not days.

@Gragon 24 күн бұрын

Hi. Let me get this straight. I have a pair of active speakers (edifier airpulse a100) with subout RCA port and rel t5/x subwoofer with low level input and LFE input. From what I understood from your video I should stick RCA into the LFE because crossover is being done on the active speaker side? REL recommends sticking into the low level.

@myonedog 11 ай бұрын

Hello sir , I’m confused, I have 3 Klipsch subwoofer with all 3 gain set to 50% and crossover to the max- do I put the Onkyo receiver crossover to 80hz or 120hz ?

@Frankdem99 Жыл бұрын

My Sony STR-DH790 AVR seems to have crossover settings for all of the speakers except the subwoofer.

@rindershow212 2 жыл бұрын

Straight to the point 👉!! Nice. Question. I'm running bass Shakers. So I have an amp plate that I use to running the Shakers.. now the question is what dial should I run the crossover on the sub plate. I know for a traditional subwoofer we set the dial to the highest crossover point . Now does this apply to the bass shaker amp as well? The lowest setting on the amp plate is 40hz.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Now bass shakers are one area where I am not well versed. Does the manufacturer have any recommendations?

@rindershow212 2 жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters not really.

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

@@rindershow212 I would reach out to them I’m sure they’d be happy to offer advice.

@elloco271 4 ай бұрын

Hi i have svs sb1000 , i connect to.the lfe imput and dial i have on lfe is this correct my speakers are set to 80hz is the phase dial best kept at 0. ?

@cruzingrsx4484 2 жыл бұрын

My good man here’s how I have my sub hooked up on my two channel system. My tower’s go down to 35Hz according to it’s spec’s. My sub goes down to 20Hz according to it’s spec’s, so I set the crossover point on the sub to start at 45Hz that’s 10Hz before the towers drop off. The volume is set so the sub disappears but in heavy bass tracks you can definitely hear the low end from the sub

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have it setup perfectly…I also prefer some amount of overlap if you don’t have the ability to control the roll-off of the main speakers.

@rindershow212 2 жыл бұрын

But I thought he said to set the crossover on the sub itself to the highest point?

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

@@rindershow212 Yes, assuming the AVR is going to take care of bass management.

@warrior15r Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters how much overlap would you recommend? Maybe 20 hz worth of overlap?

@odd-looking-dude Жыл бұрын

Great vid thanks. I have a free useful app on my android phone which I think will help people understand what’s happening and tune the sub in nicely: Frequency Generator. Connect the phones headphone output to an aux-in on AVR or amplifier (or an rca input using cheap adapter cable), and the app lets you wind the freq up and down with a slider. You can hear when the main speakers start to drop off, and adjust sub crossover to start responding there or a bit higher if preferred. Also good for balancing the sub volume to the main speakers volume.

@derekmaynard5619 6 ай бұрын

Nice!! Awesome find and awesome suggestion! Thanks

@secretsq100 Жыл бұрын

Great tip but you didn’t address the volume control. Do I set the on the Sub all the up and adjust in the receiver speaker output control or do I set speaker output to 0 and use the manual out volume on my sub???

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Set the out volume on the sub around 50% to start with. Then make the adjustments in the AVR. If you can't get enough level with the AVR settings, increase the control on the sub to 75% and readjust in the AVR.

@EQUAL.RIGHTS.4ALL Жыл бұрын

What is the difference between subwoofer and bass setting. What it should be?

@mosthated8848 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 questions for you Sir. I have a Denon AVR-S960H it's advertises that it can do Atmos but, there no hook up in the back for heights speakers. I have 2 front speakers that have built in heights and, I don't know where to hook the height to. My 2nd question is should set my avr to LFE+main? I'm running 2 8inch downward shootings subs from Klipsch Black Reference.

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

It looks like the “Surround Back” channels on your AVR can be assigned to be Atmos “height” channels. I believe you can only run a 5.1.2 setup with this AVR, not 7.1.2. Unless the subs you have are built into the main speakers, I would set the AVR to LFE only and make sure the mains are set to large.

@nathaneldogo 2 жыл бұрын

What is the perfect Gain in a subwoofer and how too adjustment?

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

It will depend on the rest of your system, but if you are going to drive the subwoofer from a sub out on an AVR, I usually recommend setting the level control on the subwoofer to its mid-point to start and then level match with the AVR output levels. If you need to go above 0.0dB in the AVR subwoofer trim, increase the control on the subwoofer itself. You want the controls just open enough to be able to balance the sub output with the rest of your speakers.

@plumberski8854 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. Mine is set at about 80Hz. Time to change it to the 200Hz now on my sub woofer. Ha. Mine does not have LFE.

@TheMrTJOX 5 ай бұрын

You must be Canadian!! Or from Minnesota

@jungtarcph Жыл бұрын

How about introducing a high-pass filter before the power amplifier (after the preamp) and hence take the bass significantly down for the speaker and let the subwoofer signal be guided by subwoofer crossover.

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is an excellent route to take with a stereo-only setup with separate pre and power amp!

@chrisohrling149 Жыл бұрын

I have a question that I'm confused about on the back of my sub woofer there is a switch that says phase and the range starts at 0 to 180 where should it set at please let me know thank you

@totalplonker824 9 ай бұрын

If you've only got one subwoofer and you can hear it then you're good to go

@ShaileshPatel-le8cq Жыл бұрын

All Yamaha Bookshelf Speakers FREQUENCY as below. AVR - Yamaha HTR 3072 (5.1) Center - 58Hz - 45Khz FS - 57Hz - 45Khz SS - 62Hz - 20Khz SW - 20-160Hz According to abv what crossover is to be set. Current I set 80HZ

@vivianokeswa488 Жыл бұрын

Hi I’m still a bit confused 😢. What does it means if I set up the subwoofer to 150 Hz settings? Can it still do low frequency since it’s a sub and I will expect it to be able to reach those low frequencies

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Yes, all the crossover setting is doing is setting the highest frequency the subwoofer will reproduce. It does not alter the low frequency extension.

@dragonfire61 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Cambridge AXR100 reciever with a sub output that has the crossover at 200hz. Should I then hook that to the LFE input on my SVS 1000 Pros?

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

That crossover should be able to be changed to lower settings, so you would need to see which works best with your main speakers. Since the receiver is performing the crossover for the sub, use the LFE input.

@volkiruski1221 2 жыл бұрын

ok, I have speakers with 45-20.000 and an active subwoofer...which value I start with the crossover and which volume you should start....from where I can use my ears, I need a starting point. 👍😉

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

I would start with a subwoofer crossover at 60 Hz and the level around the mid point. You can listen and adjust from there.

@volkiruski1221 2 жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters Thank you...I did your advice...for me the best sound is crossing at 80. Volume is 50% but sometimes to much, I turn down to 30% it depends the quality of Music. I like the albums of Sabaton, Legends of Bonfire, Tambu of Toto and the latest albums of Kansas. They sound terrific with your advice, thank you 👍👍

@AxiomHomeTheaters 2 жыл бұрын

@@volkiruski1221 You're very welcome, glad you've got your system set-up to sound great! Always happy to help.

@firelinks316 Жыл бұрын

where should the phase switch should be set to as ny sub has a phase switch also together with the receiver

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

If you have phase control on both the subwoofer AND in your receiver, set the subwoofer to zero or “normal” and then try toggling the control in your receiver. You’re looking for a smoothest bass sound and blending between your main speakers and the subwoofer.

@firelinks316 Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters thanks greatly appreciated

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

@@firelinks316 you're welcome, happy to help.

@johnnylauritsen3556 Жыл бұрын

Hi. I have a Denon AVR home theater (sub out LFE) 5.1 and a Velodyne SPL 800i subwoofer. (LFE) Now my question. on my subwoofer there are: 1. subwoofer volume, 2. low pass crossover, 3. a button with internal x-over-Subwoofer direct. 4. a button with Phase 0-180 What should all this say on my subwoofer? I know you said max on crossover which is 120 Hz but then? On my Denon AVR I can set the speakers and subwoofer in crossover in set up. should all the speakers be set to 80 Hz but what should I set the subwoofer to for Hz???

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

I would set the level on your subwoofer to the 12:00 position to start with, use the button to put it in “Subwoofer Direct” mode (This will bypass the internal low-pass crossover in the sub), and leave the phase at zero. Then use the controls in the subwoofer to set the crossover frequency, delay, and level. If the sub output is not high enough, you can go back and increase the setting of the volume control on the sub.

@johnnylauritsen3556 Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters thanks for the help. ok I have set the sub as you said.😊 But what should I set in Denon's set up menu. should all 5.1 speakers be set to 80 Hz But then what should I set the sub to for Hz in the menu. I run with sub mode Lfe + main. This is where I get stuck.

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

@@johnnylauritsen3556 Your Denon should automatically set the subwoofer crossover to match that of the settings you have used for the individual channels. So, the mains will get full range signal + sub and the channels set to 80Hz will steer information below 80Hz to the subwoofer.

@johnnylauritsen3556 Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters thank you very much for the help.😊 so if I understand everything correctly now, it is on the subwoofer that I will change the bass if I want more bass. then I turn on the crossover button, not in the Denon set up. the volume on the subwoofer must also be at maximum or at half. does it do any good when I run through avr Denon. many questions and I am so grateful for any help. I drive with the Denon AVR S650H which is enough in my room. then I wonder since I have 2 sub outs on the amplifier if I can have 2 Subwoofers 😊 last question I have set all the speakers to 80Hz, is that ok. should I put a subwoofer on this with (80 Hz) Have a nice evening. Johnny

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

@@johnnylauritsen3556 You’re welcome! Yes, if you want more bass level that the Denon controls can provide you can increase the level control on the subwoofer. I would leave the crossover button on bypass mode on the sub and make any desired changes to the subwoofer crossover frequency in the Denon. You want to avoid having the filters inside the subwoofer AND the AVR operating at the same time.

@taheralikhan5771 Жыл бұрын

Hi please help me I am some confusion this crossover point My focal sopra n2 Frequency response 34Hz-40khz Low frequency point (-6dB). 28Hz Center focal Electra Frequency response 55Hz-40khz Low frequency point(-6dB)50Hz Rear surround Bipolar focal sr800v Frequency response (+/-3dB) 75Hz-28khz Low frequency point(-6dB)65hz Back surround focal 806v Frequency response +/-3dB 55Hz-28khz Low frequency point-6dB 47Hz My subwoofer Definitive technology power field Reference Please suggest me what is the perfect crossover and For sub LFE 80Hz or 120hz Please reply respected sir thank you

@taheralikhan5771 Жыл бұрын

You can’t reply this sir please reply

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

I would recommend setting the main speakers to large and the rest to small. Then set the subwoofer/LFE crossover to 80Hz. That should work well.

@taheralikhan5771 Жыл бұрын

@@AxiomHomeTheaters other speaker 80Hz front large Lpf for LFE 80or120Hz

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

@@taheralikhan5771 yes, that's correct.

@victorpulos823 Жыл бұрын

You are saying don’t use crossover in subs use the bypass setting on sub, to use crossover in avr instead

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

Correct. If you’re using the subwoofer output from an AVR, I always suggest using the crossover settings in the AVR and bypassing the crossover on the sub.

@secretsq100 Жыл бұрын

Great video clear and direct. Thank you Sir I was really having a problem with my denon AVR and my subs, alluded tech 5.1 system. 2 towers not powered because older Def Techs with out powered sub sounds great without the possible of powered sub. I have all set to small now I think that seems to give a more timbre matching system. Crossover in Receiver set to 80 and the at 200 to get out of the way. My question is when I switch to stereo for music, what if any bass goes to my towers front speakers???

@AxiomHomeTheaters Жыл бұрын

@@secretsq100 Your AVR should keep the same crossover settings whether you are in a multi-channel or stereo mode. Your front towers will only extend down to 80Hz and the rest will go to the sub. Now there are some AVRs on the market that allow different settings for multi-channel or stereo, so I would consult your manual.

@SirChiefUK 2 ай бұрын

I’m confused??? What’s the crossover from the AVR? On my Denon my setting is LFE set to 120, on my sub the crossover is 150. Can you clarify this please?