Sunder (2009) - MAP08: Pale Monument (Ultra-Violence 100%)

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decino

decino

Жыл бұрын

Game: Doom II
PWAD: sunder.wad
Difficulty: Ultra-Violence
Source port: PrBoom+ UMAPINFO (-complevel 9)
Pistol start.
All kills and secrets.
No saves.
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Link to WAD:
dsdarchive.com/files/wads/doo...
Link to source port:
github.com/coelckers/prboom-p...
Widescreen status bars:
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...
Doom II Minor Sprite Fixing Project:
www.doomworld.com/idgames/gra...

Пікірлер: 242
@BabyCurry5
@BabyCurry5 Жыл бұрын
I really wasn't expecting to hear "Attempt number 1" for the successful run. Every day Decino gets more powerful.
@SmokerFace12
@SmokerFace12 Жыл бұрын
Always felt like map 8 is a step down in difficulty compared to 6 and 7. Next maps wont be done in 1 try, hehe
@bentilbury2002
@bentilbury2002 Жыл бұрын
This isn't even his final form!
@bladeroberts1690
@bladeroberts1690 Жыл бұрын
@@SmokerFace12 lklkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkklkllll😮
@hermannhinterhauser1227
@hermannhinterhauser1227 Жыл бұрын
At least every day he is on earth
@AerinSwift
@AerinSwift Жыл бұрын
The longer -Icon of Sin- decino is on Earth, the stronger he will become
@felipevarona911
@felipevarona911 Жыл бұрын
Most of us don't really care if your way of beating the map is slow or "boring", we like watching you beait it
@kwahn106
@kwahn106 Жыл бұрын
I sat there for 12 hours to watch him beat maps 16 and 17, and every single second was awesome.
@Bozzyshy
@Bozzyshy Жыл бұрын
This. "was thinking to ssg them to save some ammo but I don't think that's very exciting to watch" don't worry about it Decino do what's best for the map we love watching you play and beat maps
@jorgebohyn
@jorgebohyn Жыл бұрын
Tbh, I much rather watch slower casual runs like this instead of a speedrunner that rushes through freaking everything with so much risks involved and whatnot. It actually makes me kind of nervous.
@waxkun
@waxkun Жыл бұрын
+1
@LogicDolphin
@LogicDolphin Жыл бұрын
Tbh I prefer the SSG over the Plasma, the Plasma is too loud
@yomomdoes77
@yomomdoes77 Жыл бұрын
This midi is one of my favorites!! It’s like a demonic lullaby
@TheWolfgangGrimmer
@TheWolfgangGrimmer Жыл бұрын
@@xiaocha95 MAP20, but yes.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
The title is Fight The Logic If You Can.
@michaelaguilar6315
@michaelaguilar6315 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the midi suits very well in this map
@jamison8929
@jamison8929 Жыл бұрын
reminds me of the music in the map screens from golden axe for genesis
@milesparsons6252
@milesparsons6252 Жыл бұрын
Those descending chords remind me of the Fade To Black intro, made me smile
@Knifeworld
@Knifeworld Жыл бұрын
This and dreaming garden are my faves from old sunder because of the abstract designs using rare or "ugly" textures incredibly well, and the midi choices. The combination makes for such a surreal atmosphere.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
I agree, but I like this _far_ better than Dreaming Garden. There's just no saving that "dirty bathroom tile" texture.
@emmecuh
@emmecuh Жыл бұрын
No texture is ugly, you just use them wrong
@BigMacDavis
@BigMacDavis Жыл бұрын
10:25 - Baron assassinates Cyber. Right in the back of the head. That was pretty epic. Great job with the run, and on the first attempt too, very impressive. With your strategies, Sunder actually looks doable for me. I may try this out at some point. :)
@mja2317
@mja2317 Жыл бұрын
I like how as a player gets better at Doom, Cyberdemons and Spider Masterminds go from being boss battles to being your closest friends.
@Blappyboop
@Blappyboop Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite sunder map, I just love how abstract the map looks.
@superordinate
@superordinate Жыл бұрын
there's nothing more relaxing than watching decino methodically slaughter thousands of demons while he casually narrates his strategy.
@Meatman8089
@Meatman8089 Жыл бұрын
The noble cacodemon. My daughters favorite. She used to make play tricks and traps over and over just for the caco room.
@kelleroid
@kelleroid Жыл бұрын
fittingly this is also MAP08
@OmegaTyrant
@OmegaTyrant Жыл бұрын
Cacodemons are the best demons
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
If she's a grownup, send this video to her. If not, watch this with her over popcorn. Either way, bonding over tomatos.
@mortaljason
@mortaljason Жыл бұрын
"Welcome to my 100% playthrough of Sunder Map 16. Attempt 236"
@CaptainSteveable
@CaptainSteveable Жыл бұрын
Only one attempt? Holy crap, that’s nuts!
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 Жыл бұрын
Batman( Michael Keoton): he has LIGHTS OUT NOW YOU WANNA GET NUTS!! cmon let’s get nuts!!
@Jurarigo
@Jurarigo Жыл бұрын
No, it's Sunder! :3
@CaptainSteveable
@CaptainSteveable Жыл бұрын
@@Jurarigo Touché :^)
@summersmashhit9177
@summersmashhit9177 Жыл бұрын
My second favourite Sunder map! The scale, the aesthetics, the lack of archviles, the almost numbing amount of cacodemons to kill, fights that give you movement options; it's all great.
@andreylong1869
@andreylong1869 Жыл бұрын
One of the two most memorable caco clouds in my experience. Second one (and even more impressive!) is in MAYhem 1500's MAP30: Catastrophe at the Keep of Cape Caco. Whoever hasn't seen it should give it a look 😃
@jeremiasastorga8399
@jeremiasastorga8399 Жыл бұрын
If I could ask one thing to Insane Gazebo, it would be how do they come up with such awesome names for maps. Like, they all sound super intriguing.
@Sammy-114
@Sammy-114 Жыл бұрын
Check out the interview with him on nirvanas KZfaq/podcast
@sozhran
@sozhran Жыл бұрын
He actually explains his inspirations and themes for each level in the readme file that comes with the wad.
@not_creative_with_username3834
@not_creative_with_username3834 Жыл бұрын
@@Sammy-114 Awesome, thank you
@peterhawes9680
@peterhawes9680 Жыл бұрын
Great performance to do this first try! A suggestion for analysis afterwards 'where did my ammo go? 'what happened to the cyberdemons?' is if you record a demo as you play in DSDA you can use a camera when playing back to see the cyberdemon infighting up close --- one or two cybers may have been surrounded and killed quickly.
@bladesofseven
@bladesofseven Жыл бұрын
I remember trying this level with a couple of other mods that made monsters tougher, among other things. Suffice to say, I got my arse kicked sooooo many times, so seeing decino manage this with relative ease is nice to see.
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 Жыл бұрын
Attempt number one?! That’s crazy.
@ItsBofu
@ItsBofu Жыл бұрын
Excellent playthrough, though I'm not really surprised that you cleared it on your first attempt considering how much harder maps you've cleared. Despite the high monster count, this map doesn't strike me as particularly intense. There's a lot of enemies, but it doesn't feel like the challenge scales accordingly, if that makes sense. I'm not sure if I'd call it "tedious," but it's more of an endurance test than a skill one.
@Math1ussss
@Math1ussss Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the "100 most memorable maps" and this one was on top 10 or pretty close to it. I played it to see and I definitly understood why. Such a bizzarre but amazing design, and the midi fits perfectly. Also no archviles :')
@ravagerslb
@ravagerslb Жыл бұрын
This map takes the expression "caco cloud" to a whole different level.
@Solarn40
@Solarn40 Жыл бұрын
This map. This fucking map. Absolutely gorgeous, though in a somewhat sickening way, but god damn, what a pain in the ass. And this is the extremely scaled-back version. The original was map 4 or the first beta of Sunder, and it was so much worse. Every horde except the Cacoswarm was at least twice as big, and you started out in the middle of the first one (which occupied the entirety of the downstairs part of the arena), with a Cyberdemon right next to you. There was no starting room and you were liable to get killed before you could even pick up your weapons. Insane_Gazebo iterated this one a lot, reducing the number of enemies and changing their placement. At first, the spawn was put in the empty upstairs part of the first arena (though it never stayed empty for long), then finally in a separate small room that allowed you to get your bearings before plunging into the slaughter. The number of archviles that spawn in at various points during the first bit of progress through the map was also reduced.
@DoomPlayerD0M0
@DoomPlayerD0M0 Жыл бұрын
I loved this map when I played it, the caco cloud and the midi were both very iconic to me.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker Жыл бұрын
I never would have imagined that a Sunder map after map 4 would get an "attempt number 1"!! Hats off to you! I'm getting a need to try and save-scum my way through this map.
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor Жыл бұрын
7:55 "It's not too difficult of a map if you use my strategies" for only 3 easy payments of $24.99! Pre-sale starts this Thursday, Act now!
@AB0BA_69
@AB0BA_69 Жыл бұрын
Nice run! Take care of yourself, Decino! Your videos are always a treat, no matter when they drop!
@slinky_malinki5330
@slinky_malinki5330 Жыл бұрын
This one was pretty quick. Loving this series!
@OfficeHyena
@OfficeHyena Жыл бұрын
your spatial awareness is top tier, awesome video as usual man. Also the midi in this is quite sad
@shaunpaulcroft
@shaunpaulcroft Жыл бұрын
Great playthtough, considering how many attempts the livestreams took, you've improved markedly. Congrats
@hiramesensei3112
@hiramesensei3112 Жыл бұрын
All the Archviles are sleeping off a massive hangover from their wicked rager last night, that's why they forgot to show up to this one ; _ ;
@MirekWdowiak
@MirekWdowiak Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing on checking the videos on YT (from Poland so it's 3 am now :)) And 1st attempt - tasty. It seems that skills of decino are going the path of Zero Master. ;) Congratz. :)
@MrEW1985
@MrEW1985 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the caco's really come out of the woodwork
@xMrGreeneJeansx
@xMrGreeneJeansx Жыл бұрын
At one point early on the kill count jumped up by like 7 three times, all at the rate that a cyberdemon shoots his rockets. He must have wiped out 20 imps in one salvo, which is RARE.
@Kingdramana
@Kingdramana Жыл бұрын
Noooo Attempt number 1. Amazing! Well done!
@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon
@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon Жыл бұрын
Attempt no.1? Wow. Nice one, decino. Very impressive. I can barely get through this map save scumming it lol
@terrytrollface
@terrytrollface Жыл бұрын
1st attempt? You are a specimen my friend. Unreal. It took me 5 attempts. Most of my deaths took place in the final fight cuz the cybers spawned and insta targeted me. The other deaths occurred in the caco swarm post the 5 pain elementals fight. Caco corpses are worse than banana peels. Other than that, if you play it slow, it ain't too bad. I beat it in 47 minutes. The next map is harder, but you can cheese a lot of fights to ease the burden. It slowly became one of my favorite maps. Good luck 👍.
@Olek54321
@Olek54321 Жыл бұрын
Damn you did it first try! Now that's an achievment! Even though taking it slow, etc. :D It's good you didn't say like in Plutonia 2 map 20, that you highly doubt doing map 1st try :D At least you didn't have to shotgun cacos Doom 1 style :D According to Wiki, there's 712 Cacos in this map :D This MIDI is so beautiful, it always stuck in my head for the entire day after hearing it. It's good it's evening, so I think I'm safe for tomorrow!
@lukebehrendsbro.
@lukebehrendsbro. Жыл бұрын
Such a long one indeed. What's most important is that you succeeded with this map and that's enough for us to know that you beat it and did really well about almost everything here despite that it didn't seem go well as you planned. 11:17 Hey look? I was born in 1987! Hey look? 666 um.....kills.......😀🙂😐🙁☹Uh oh! I still think overall you did an awesome job! Insane difficulty is still slaughter in anyway so I won't survive lol! 😆Thank you for this video. ✊
@bustaflow06
@bustaflow06 Жыл бұрын
7:33 “I think I will kill more demons.” Good idea, decino.
@quotefromcavestory
@quotefromcavestory Жыл бұрын
You are soo awesome decino! and nice video!
@Shuji_the_great
@Shuji_the_great Жыл бұрын
Morning demon slaughterfest been fun to watch and also first attempt :o rad.
@sephiran973
@sephiran973 Жыл бұрын
I would love to do some infight wars in maps like these. Thank you for the content tio decino
@nuGGet909
@nuGGet909 Жыл бұрын
always a good day when decino uploads
@TheRuinsfate
@TheRuinsfate Жыл бұрын
Sitting up with a hot lemon drink to ease a sore throat and blocked sinuses before bed, and this makes a nice relaxing watch to enjoy with it.
@decino
@decino Жыл бұрын
Get well soon.
@TheRuinsfate
@TheRuinsfate Жыл бұрын
@@decino Thanks, appreciate it :)
@leoneldoleschal1194
@leoneldoleschal1194 Жыл бұрын
I need this midi for studying/working is so chill and relaxing really. Also i think the ammo got reck in the cacodemons cloud, specially the rockets. Again number one attempt is really awesome
@FR4M3Sharma
@FR4M3Sharma 9 ай бұрын
This midi got me sleepy. 😴
@jiihootabs
@jiihootabs Жыл бұрын
One of the best things in these runs is that they are nowhere near perfect. Out of ammo, out of health, couple of unexpected Mancubus fireballs here and there... but this is what makes these so great. I know when watching that the run is a success - at the same time I can imagine myself rage quitting 100 times when facing these obstacles. But decino will find a way and keeps pushing on - and the reward is a great video with some twists and turns!
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera Жыл бұрын
When I heard attempt number one I'm like no freaking way this map took me more attempts than you do I guess I'm just too rusty or just not prepared anyway amazing gameplay as always but I'm wondering how are you going to stack up against Map 9 which is one of my favorites at the time XD
@pannomic1818
@pannomic1818 Жыл бұрын
1 attempt?? Greaat scott!!!
@chainz983
@chainz983 Жыл бұрын
according to the Doomwiki, theres 712 cacos. Funny enough i was already on the doomwiki looking for the japanese community project
@Flamewalk
@Flamewalk Жыл бұрын
OMG that slight pause after the phrase "Attempt nubmer..." It really got me:)
@NativeNewMexican
@NativeNewMexican Жыл бұрын
"I'll just let them infight"... proceeds to rocket them to death.
@michaelaguilar6315
@michaelaguilar6315 Жыл бұрын
For me this is the best map of old sunder. Great memories when i played this in 2012.
@demogorgonzola
@demogorgonzola Жыл бұрын
That went very smoothly, despite the slight ammo issues. Also, you hinted at this a bit but I bet you were playing "slowly" just to hear more of the midi (egyptian-catJAM) ;)
@jrock718
@jrock718 Жыл бұрын
Nice run pumpkin man
@JangianTV
@JangianTV Жыл бұрын
03:33 "And I got nice health. Had nice health!" 🤣🤣🤣
@SkullKruncher877
@SkullKruncher877 Жыл бұрын
Decino: where did my ammo go? demons:ITS IN US
@ginger15103
@ginger15103 Жыл бұрын
holy shit you're doing sunder??? why didn't I hear of this :D
@darkgrandjedimaster
@darkgrandjedimaster Жыл бұрын
Attempt number one… awesome.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth Жыл бұрын
I only have 45 minutes until bedtime! How convenient. 2:26 WOW! Look at that gib go!
@worshaka
@worshaka Жыл бұрын
Attempt one, you are bordering on doom God status dude.
@kleetin1292
@kleetin1292 Жыл бұрын
Whoa that was fast! Nice!
@thedoomgirl
@thedoomgirl Жыл бұрын
Decino never disappoints us 🥺
@DOOMSlayer6476
@DOOMSlayer6476 Жыл бұрын
That is alot of demonic tomatoes.
@then35t18
@then35t18 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@MancubianCandidate
@MancubianCandidate Жыл бұрын
Damn man, just about to go to bed and you drop this? 😂
@Robert_G101
@Robert_G101 Жыл бұрын
Behold the pale horse of apocalypse
@Rigbone64
@Rigbone64 Жыл бұрын
Woo Sunder on a Sunday!
@rodrigoabarca3014
@rodrigoabarca3014 Жыл бұрын
10:50 Demon-stration of the trope "Do not do this cool thing"
@Grondorn
@Grondorn Жыл бұрын
These maps are really aesthetically amazing
@Grondorn
@Grondorn Жыл бұрын
Plus, interesting how there are no arch-viles in this map.
@summersmashhit9177
@summersmashhit9177 Жыл бұрын
@@Grondorn That's one of the best things about it.
@ShowRyuKen
@ShowRyuKen Жыл бұрын
Mmm... Misri Halek midi for 40+ minutes = happy good times.
@bramsanjanssan4908
@bramsanjanssan4908 Жыл бұрын
Amazing level design
@Bozzyshy
@Bozzyshy Жыл бұрын
AHH Map 8 the first Sunder map. Well the first that is as monster crazy as I expect Sunder to be anyway
@anthonywessels61
@anthonywessels61 Жыл бұрын
No way!!!! Love it. I’m still on back to Saturn x 🤣🤣🤣
@MaxT-SFX
@MaxT-SFX Жыл бұрын
Another nice one man, and in 1 shot! I am curious what you found while watching footage, but perhaps your ammo vanished when you didn't want to bore us with SSG? Haha~ I assumed since it was attempt 1 you were a little more lax with ammo.
@PICKLESIEMER
@PICKLESIEMER Жыл бұрын
nice health and nice armor? we are eating good tonight lads
@TheCecchino98
@TheCecchino98 Жыл бұрын
You're making these look easy
@riba2233
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Chillax when, this is getting to easy for you :D
@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon
@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful, soothing & hypnotic midi this map has. Could listen to it all day. So good 🤗. If memory serves, it is also used in the Egyptian pyramid map on alien vendetta isn't it?
@kaz1217
@kaz1217 Жыл бұрын
Yes, MAP20 Misri Halek!
@GenericProtagonist7
@GenericProtagonist7 Жыл бұрын
"No big deal, really" You're making me feel inadequate.
@gregoryheidt2746
@gregoryheidt2746 Жыл бұрын
Pale Monument but every Caco in the big swarm is an Astral/Asshole Caco.
@jlinonis
@jlinonis Жыл бұрын
Me: "he wasn't kidding that's a lotta Cacos" Dacino: "... and that's maybe about 1/3rd of the cacos" Me: "oh shit oh fuck"
@elmaminsk5411
@elmaminsk5411 Жыл бұрын
I feel like I've just watched La Tomatina festival stream in Buñol :)
@anthonymentalewicz5143
@anthonymentalewicz5143 Жыл бұрын
This is the map that made me move from zdoom to boom. That caco cloud on old zdoom was impossible... the rocket launcher wasn't viable. Now it's fine with comp options and how embarassingly long it took me to learn... but default zdoom makes it so there's not enough ammo for that caco cloud I remember... Not knocking zdoom either I was a noob.
@decino
@decino Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the explosions' vertical knockback in ZDoom can ruin a lot of these fights by scattering flying enemies all over the place.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
I never play classic Doom with vertical explosion momentum enabled. Not only does it cause the troubles with scattering flyers that you two mentioned, it makes the rocket launcher incongruous with other guns, as literally everything else only has horizontal knockback. Vertical knockback from explosions, only in Heretic or Hexen, or a TC designed with it in mind.
@vendeten
@vendeten Жыл бұрын
Continuing my thoughts on sunder maps Map 08: This map is gorgeous but brutally difficult, honestly, I think it’s in the top 3 for difficulty of classic sunder (I haven’t beaten map 14 yet and haven’t played it much, the order for difficulty would be 13, 12 then 8. The huge caco wave absolutely demolished me. The final fight had my nerves killing me even with saves as it was such a close quarter and intense fight. The visuals as stated make this map memorable, one of the most unique of sunder, which already has many many unique maps
@sanketower
@sanketower Жыл бұрын
Damn, now I want to play Misri Halek again. This map looks very daunting too.
@milosnik747
@milosnik747 Жыл бұрын
This midi is pretty cool
@christianfensbo6980
@christianfensbo6980 Жыл бұрын
@ 11:20 "...and we got a Megaarmor to spare." Somehow I was waiting for "Aaa screw it..." and Decino takes it, regrets doing that like 10 mins later. He didn't - what do you know, the kid's growing up! :)
@TheBrutalDoomer
@TheBrutalDoomer Жыл бұрын
Yay! The milk chocolate and blueberry pie, my favorite!
@georgeheilman885
@georgeheilman885 Жыл бұрын
There are caco clouds, and there's this map. Those corpses probably make it harder than in more open and outdoor areas where flying tomatoes attack.
@GuyXVIII
@GuyXVIII Жыл бұрын
Either Gazebo buffed some levels in the later version, or you have got crazy good at this! first attempt? that's bonkers!
@TheWolfgangGrimmer
@TheWolfgangGrimmer Жыл бұрын
Cacos here, cacos there Cacos everywhere From down here we can Caco
@douglasmurillo6042
@douglasmurillo6042 Жыл бұрын
*E P I C*
@Phryj
@Phryj Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, this map has more Cacodemons than every map in Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, and Final Doom combined. Possibly Doom 64 as well, but I'm not sure.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 11 ай бұрын
Playing this on GZDoom with Nashgore probably leaves the ENTIRE map painted blue. I may try it someday.
@billabobyt
@billabobyt Жыл бұрын
This map's visuals are... interesting? It teeters on that knife's edge where it ought to be incredibly ugly but it works really well which I think is admirable. Can see its influences in a few places. Not fond of the fights though. And the way the whole arena flashes when you shoot at 11:35 is funny lol
@uishy340
@uishy340 Жыл бұрын
Making the mother of all marinaras here decino, can't fret over every tomato
@danielja1832
@danielja1832 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Cyberdemon change targets mid-volley before. Good to know they can though.
@gentuxable
@gentuxable Жыл бұрын
The last fight resembled a recent meeting where management announced that 20 people got fired and there's no bonus for anybody.
@Jacco_Prins
@Jacco_Prins Жыл бұрын
There are more imps than tomatoes in this map. Full enemy count of this map: Imp859 Revenant386 Cacodemon712 Pain elemental4 Hell knight392 Baron of Hell98 Arachnotron48 Mancubus132 Spiderdemon1 Cyberdemon21
@lankymaccrazyhair264
@lankymaccrazyhair264 Жыл бұрын
It feels like the slaughter maps in old Sunder are a bit better than the smaller scale ones. In the smaller ones, you kept talking about how you didn't like x fight, how y fight had too many tanky enemies, or how you didn't like an entire map. You seem to be having more fun with the big slaughter maps.
@eduardodiaz9942
@eduardodiaz9942 Жыл бұрын
Turns out, there is such a thing as "too many Cacodemons"
@jamiemahmud9944
@jamiemahmud9944 Жыл бұрын
Love the midi for this map
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