i think so sometimes

Dean Smith can you blame them tho?...GT fights were not good

@@Ntwadumela89 Hah and Super was🤦‍♂️

Kaka-Rot-El are you really comparing fight in GT to super?...super absolutely shits on GT dude lol

@@Geekdom101 another Dragon Ball youtuber named Broku did a great video on a GT character vs a DBZ character. I believe it was Super Vegito vs General Rildo. And about 90% of People who voted in a poll he did said Vegito would win in a fight. Just goes to show how some people sleep on GT characters. Thanks for the like and great video Geekdom!

I agree in every way! GT may not be the most favorite Dragon Ball series out there, but if one thing is certain, it brought forth one of the best, most favorite forms entirely.

DragonBallEmpire gt is trash but ssj4 is one of the coolest transformations

@Ignatius David Partogi tbf it has some lore behind it since that the angels are in that form 24/7 and they have white hair it is reasonable for goku to get the same appearance

@Roshan Ranjan listen my brother it is a technique but for mortals to use it they need to transform their bodies to adapt to it since it is designed to be a technique of the gods and whis literally said in the manga that roshi is not using UI but a strong resemble for it and in the anime whis said in the 2nd time they fought jiren that goku has already pushed his mortal body to fight like a god so it is a technique that needs you to transform your body to use it if you are not a god have a great day

Monke is too powerful

@Kelvin Issac noooooot canon

Nah ssj4 is my least fave transformation

@@yunusbbx8497 always that one guy

You're wrong.

Don’t be surprised if SSJ4 make an official appearance in Super if it comes back, it’s too popular. If Toriyama brought back Broly, then SSJ4 is. Strong possibility.

I thought that at first, too! Both are interesting.

Yes, the files was comparing hypothetical buu saga Super Saiyan 4 to Buu Saga Vegito.. Some fans We're taking the words out of context.

@@ljekanimation286 SS4 Is only equal to Buu Saga Fusion of Goku and Vegeta.. Keep in mind. Fusion is more potent as both fighters become stronger and obtain new forns

@@ljekanimation286 No Buuhan Feats Is Universal Through Chain Reaction.. Vegito was Simply putting a Stop to Buuhan's Attack.

@@ljekanimation286 Again, Buuhan attack is only Universal Attck chain reaction.

thank you!

And I say let it die

DBZ Vegito could have probably went SSJ3 but SSJ4 would have still done the same to Super buu Gohan absorbed

Same, on the condition Vegeto doesnt go beyond ssj1.

@superken54 Its possible the raw power and speed of Vegito/Gogeta could compete with MUI Goku

@superken54 Bitch, did i stutter?

I think he was comparing kid buu to fat buu, not kid buu to buuhan.

@Ignatius David Partogi I know

Kid Buu is sufficiently stronger than Majin Buu as he is all the evil that dwells within Majin Buu..

@@iipandadubs2269 not as strong as super buu

@@alfa01spotivo ik

Well considering they both said that at one point

They were probably comparing Vegito if he was in GT or if SSJ4 was in Z.

@@Red-Rebel there don't normally do that

It was probably talking about Ssj 4 Goku's multiplier. They never actually mention Goku, at all. There was a guidebook that did something similar with Vegito and Ssj 3.

I heard Mr popo and kibito said vegito is stronger

Most likely trying to hype Ssj4 up. Power scaling wasn't as mainstream then, and SV was still considered to be strongest by the majority, especially those who hasn't seen GT. Comparing the two would bring in more people to see those arcs.

Heavily low-balling.. To the point where some people think Caulifla can beat SSJ4 GOGETA!!? Fcking SSJ4 Gogeta!!

@Ignatius David Partogi EXACTLY!

@Ignatius David Partogi People tend to think SSG is millions of times stronger than SSJ3 and since he presumably has that on his base his stronger...

@@powerjolt7215 it was shown that ssg is universe buster maybe it is the reason why people state that it has that much multiplier

@@uigoku4276 Beerus clashing with Goku was sending shockwaves over the universe and destroying the universe somewhat. That's something Buuhan in Z could already do on his own. It's a really inconsistent feat people use to highball super characters, but that's just how I see it

Baby couldnt destroy Earth in 3 galic guns while Z Vegeta could in one which sets a pretty traceable baseline for GT power levels as around Nappa at best. Goku can drop 4 transformed states and defeat his enemies so the transformation in GT barely have any effect and his base form could be killed by a rotating fanblade in a sewer so the GT universe version of these characters are pitifully weak. Fuusion is also said to evenly combine powers as Goku told the boys not to waste energy they could channel to him by forming Gotenks so at BEST SSJ4 Gogeta is still weaker than Saiyan Saga Vegeta since hes an even combo of two characters around 1/3rd of Nappas power level. This is all simple math

@Muhammad Faiz The highest Zenkai boost was Cell regenerating from a single cell something so far beyond what a Saiyan is normally capable of its unreal and that still didnt match half a SSJ2 Gohan

@DIO Yedek Hesap You just cant handle my elite mathematical skills and objective facts based on reason

@@TrollCapAmerica do not get cocky buddy you do realise that there is something called power output and please tell me that you are a troll thinking that SSJ4 Gogeta is at best as strong as sayian saga vegeta

@@isthatajojorefrence5271 I proved it with math. Math doesnt care about your opinion and mathematically the GT alternate universe series is pathetically weak. Its like Tenchi where its the same characters in different universes with differnt actual abilities

looooooong have yoiu waited

Geekdom101 Bro since the mid 2000’s.

Dante dam

There would be no need for it since SSB is slightly stronger

@@alpzel7085 Hence why I said reintroduce. DBZ Broly would've been stomped by suppressed base DBS Goku. But he was reintroduced to be stronger than Goku and Vegeta They could even make SSJ4 stronger than SSJB is they wanted to.

Eijiro Kirishima Ssb is was superior lmao

Anthony Re-introducing it would make it canon genius

I can see the other day and doing it. Think about it, SSB is simply super saiyan with internalized ki. That means ssb3 and if for is introduced ssb4. Also we know SSJ4 is basically a physical body strong enough to easily handle the imperfect ssj3. Ever notice odd number firms are harder than even number. Hence even number variants are far better. Also note vegitas ultimate ssb which we can argue is basically ssb2.

@JACQUEZ JOHNSON I'm saying this not off of strength but just aesthetics

Super saiyan 4 maybe not the strongest but its too strong, and most beautifull form ever

If ssj2 kefla could be stronger than first time ui goku then how did vegito be weaker than ssj4 goku

@@brotatoamvs4456 Please dont use universe 6 sayains in any power scaling arguments. Those sayains literally shit out the super Saiyan form and get become wayy to strong than they have any right to be.

@@brotatoamvs4456 base Gogeta from "Super broly" was stronger than ssg Goku then why the heck Vegito needed to go Ssj against buuhan?

@@ShashankShukla3103 He didn't need to....

@@user-uv4fb8vx3x if he didnt need to then why he became a ssj😂 Atleast use ur brain dude Also in the manga vegito directly went to ssj and didnt even fight buuhan even for a sec Why?😂coz he was scared?

That's what I thought too lol

Think of it this way, Frieza did something that shouldn't be called training for 4 months and was SSJB level, Uub (Kid buu) who by default is like a thousand times stronger than Frieza trains with Goku for 5 years, who's going to be stronger? That alone answers the whole Super GT debate, GT Goku in his base form is easily stronger than SSJ Vegito, and that's not even the strongest base GT Goku, he gets hundreds of times stronger in every arc.

@-Xephyr- 😂😂😂😂😂👏🤣Bruh, what?? Wtf are you smoking? Uub has waaaay more potential than Frieza, Uub is literally kid Buu who was not only born waaaay stronger than Frieza, but he improves and learns at a much faster rate.

Gt is its own story as such is a side story.

Gt isn't cannon.

Shane Strickland But it still follows Z

@@lightinstinct707 Gt is not actually part of The Z time line I will leave you a link to a video explaining this tomorrow. Gt and the movies are like their own dimension of the dragonball cannon.

Shane Strickland That is true but it does go through the events of Z as well. They reference multiple enemies from Z in Gt so I think of it as this was DB->DBZ(Filler and movies included)->DBGT DB->DBZkai->Dbs

@JACQUEZ JOHNSON ok now that your trolling is done you can leave now

@JACQUEZ JOHNSON No. Lol

Goku wouldn't even need super saiyan 4. Maybe super saiyan 3/2 if Vegito uses super saiyan 3.

@@powerjolt7215 I'd say only ssj1 or 2

@@digimationentertainment9820 Yeah.

Michael Gorilla my guy, gt is not “cannon”

Gt is and never was cannon what crack you smoking

Uhhh gt isnt cannon do you really think ss4 would come after super saiyan GOD let that sink in for a minute Its all in the name Super saiyan GOD super saiyan 4 Does that sound right to you?

Gt isn’t canon lmao tf

I apologize for my severe and continuous lapse in judgement. I was wrong, GT isn’t cannon and it’s for the better given how bad it is.

@superken54 haven't seen the video yet imma bout to go sleep lol.

Base gt goku should be above super vegito.

@@josephisrael8959 Base GT kid Goku was fighting Goten who's around Super buu level and Gohan who also is above Buuhan and yet....Goku was fighting both of them using only Base. But I do think GT Gohan and vegito are equal. But Gohan with an slight edge

@@josephisrael8959 Base Goku >>>>>>>>>>Gohan > Goten

@@calvinrump3558 agreed. Although I'm a bit rusty when it comes GT powerscaling😅

DigiMation Entertainment nah

Cant compare both because gt is uncannon so it's no the same power levels

@@goldenhd9656 Spamming everyone's comments with the same bs lmao

Golden HD And there’s the bullshit cannon comment that someone pulls out their ass every time!!!smh!!!

DigiMation Entertainment I agree with everything your saying except that base gt goku beats super vegito

Some people may chose not to believe although it's true ssj4 is the true form of a saiyan for who archived ssj

Agree

That's a FACT! Some people think Caulifla can beat SSJ4 Gogeta even!?! I mean WTF Caulifla is nothing to GT Goku let alone Gogeta...

@@powerjolt7215 I don't even think califla can beat base form gohan lmao, just because u transform to a super Saiyan it doesn't put u at a specific power level, any saiyan can achieve super Saiyan, no matter how weak

@@TxCoby Yup

PowerJolt72 People like to point out “Caulifla was stronger than Super Goku so she’s stronger than Gt Goku) but for all we know, Super Goku was so fatigued he was probably weaker than his Z self (he couldn’t even hold ssj3) plus he still manhandled her and Kale

@@lightinstinct707 Yeah

This video was about Goku at that time, with that transformation... NOT about just SSJ4. As just the transformation doesnt guarantee you anything. It's power can be counted from your already existing base power... For example if you or me were able to go SSJ4 right now, we would be nowhere near those powers..

@@joonashannila8751 yeah I was referring to Goku lol. Didn't mention his name so I know it didn't come off that way. But I agree

@@godsangell12 Imagine if someone angered you, and suddenly *POOF* you turned into a Super Saiyan or Great Ape :F

People could call you Super Sanchez :P

hihihi merry xmas ^^

Yawn, Uub was stronger than goku

GETHYPE 190 end of z goten beat buu and goku kick goten and won end of z goku> kid buu>ssj3 goku z

Wtf is this lowball.Goku base form is equal to ssj vegito,ssj goku equals ssj2 vegito,ssj2 goku equals ssj3 vegito,and ssj3 goku is much stronger than ssj3 vegito.Goku in super 17 arc is so much stronger that’s it’s dumb.

I think it was stated that Vegitos base from Z was about as strong as SSJ2 Goku.

@@jibrael5705 Vegito has never had an outright stated power in anything other than guides, and it is said that vegitos power in base is "Even stronger than that of a super saiyan 3. Perhaps even rivaling a super saiyan 4!"

@@jibrael5705 vegitos base when fighting was so much stronger than ssj2 Goku it was clear when watching the power of vegito is insane and people don't realise it

Base vegito is likely stronger than ss2 gotenks. But weaker than super buu base. Ss3 goku is no where near that from buu arc lol. The daizenshuu simply gave us a basis that using potara, is at least 400x goku base. In reality he's much stronger in base. Rildo base is most certainly around fat majin buu in power. As goku typically had the upper hand in base. Baby vegeta is powerful, but never actually surpassed super vegito. The reason is simply the gt perfect files comparing ss4 to vegito. We obviously saw what ss4 did to baby.

If they aren't just trolling there are people who think Z Vegito would beat SS4 Goku

Base Vegito is arguably a higher multiplier (this is even before Super)

@@JohnSmith-hk1fz how is that so?

Their has to be facts no speculations that's why I hate this tyle of videos because no disrect to the youtuber but they are not akira toryama so their opinion is not a fact and it's irrelevant and Poole shouldn't believe him just because he gets views amd he said it

Kim Base Vegito > SSJ3 Gotenks = 400x Base Gotenks > 400x SSJ Gotenks (pre-rosat) > 400x SSJ3 Goku Goku himself said SSJ Gotenks was stronger than him and could of obliterated Fat Buu. Despite that, the characters had no hope he could beat Super Buu and yet the narrative implied Base Gotenks (post-rosat) stood a chance. Since Vegito scales a good chunk above all of that, he's at least over 160,000x stronger than Base Goku. There's practically no evidence you can use to place SSJ4 at that level

Golden HD Death of the Author exists

Ok but let’s say there’s no time limit to the fusion right but because of that you think vegeto could not be defeated if his opponent is stronger than him

Ssj4 goku was getting his ass kicked 90 percent of gt. A great ape baby couldnt even blow up a planet with 2 super galick guns who was on par with a boosted ssj4 goku

@@secoTheSonicFan ssj4 goku was almost killed by a building

Cant compare both because gt is uncannon either way it's not the same universe cause super has no ssj4

@@goldenhd9656 How is that even relevant to the topic? Think my dude, think.

@@zeldapro18 I think he is referring to how power scaling for both shows are different because gt isn't apart of the actual story like dbz.

Yes, a fused character can achieve Ultra Instinct, as well as a transformation the fusees have never used, or tapped into before. An example being Gotenks... Goten and Trunks have never once achieved Super Saiyan 3, but their Metamoran fusion, Gotenks, was able to, even though Goten and Trunks both never did.

Pretty easy answer if a fusion is trained enough it could reach a new form or UI but in the case of Gogeta or Vegito they would already have access to the form via Goku having it but when the fusion ends Vegeta wouldn’t have the form unless he achieved it himself

Gogeta/Vegito blue are already close in power with MUI Goku Both are on the same league UIO Gogeta/Vegito stomps Everyone

@@ShashankShukla3103 Actually we don't know the multiplier for UI, so by feats mui Goku is stronger than blue gogeta/vegito

@@ShashankShukla3103 Power level: Goku (end of Z) : Base - 60mil SSJ1 - 3 bill SSJ2 - 6 bill SSJ3 - 24 bill Vegeto - 1.8 quad Gohan Raged SSJ2 - 6 trill Gohan Ultimate - 60 bill Gotenxt - 7.2 bill Gotenxt SSJ3 - 2.88 trill Goku BOGs arch Base - 1.2 bill SSJ1 - 60 bill SSJ2 - 120 bill SSJ3 - 480 bill SSG - 100 oct Beerus - 10 non Whis - 15 non Resurrection F Base - 24 bill SSJ1 - 1.2 trill SSJ2 - 2.4 trill SSJ3 - 9.6 trill SSG - 2 non SSB - 100 non Universe 7 Vs 6 Base - 480 bill SSJ1 - 24 trill SSJ2 - 48 trill SSJ3 - 192 trill SSG - 40 non SSB - 2 dec Goku Black Arch Base - 9.6 trill SSJ1 - 480 trill SSJ2 - 960 trill SSJ3 - 3.840 quad SSG - 800 non SSB - 40 dec SS Rose - 2 undec Vegeto Base - 92.160 sept Vegeto SSB - 368.64 quintdecillion Zeno arch Base - 192 trill SSJ1 - 9.6 quad SSJ2 - 19.2 quad SSJ3 - 76.8 quad SSG - 16 dec SSB - 800 dec UI Omen - 40 undec UI Mastered - 800 undec Broly Base - 3.840 quad SSJ1 - 192 quad SSJ2 - 384 quad SSJ3 - 1.536 quint SSG - 320 dec SSB - 16 undec Gogeta Base - 460.8 quad Gogeta Blue 1.920 undec GT Base - 24 bill SSJ1 - 1.2 trill SSJ2 - 2.4 trill SSJ3 - 9.6 trill SSJ4 - 96 trill Gogeta SSJ4 - 11.520 quad Broly LSSJ - 3 trill Absolon Base - 480 bill SSJ1 - 24 trill SSJ2 - 48 trill SSJ3 - 192 trill SSJ4 -1.920 quad SSJ5 - 192 quad My factors: (To baseform) Zenki boost - 2x Ozaroo - 10x Arch of training / KioKen - 20x False SSJ - 25x SSJ1 - 50x SSJ2 - 100x Metamarine Fusion - 1+1x60 / 120x SSJ3 - 400 x (GT's timesip) Mystic/Rage/Legend - 1'000x SSJ4 - 4'000x Metamarine SSJ3 - 48'000 LSSJ - 50'000x Rageboost SSJ2 - 100'000x SSJ5 - 400'000x Potara (Vegeta x Goku) - 60 million x GT Metamarine SSJ4 -192 million x Potara (V x G) SSJ - 3 billion x SSJ God - 80 quintillion x SSJ Blue - 4 sextillion x SSJ Blue KK20 - 80 sextillion x (To SSJ God) SSJ God - 1 SSJ Blue - 50 SSJ Blue KK20 - 1'000 Ultra Instinct Omen / SSJ Rose - 2'500 SSJ Blue Gogeta - 6'000 Ultra Instinct Mastered - 50'000 SSJ Blue Vegeto - 480 trillion

@superken54 "It was never stated that the Dragon Fist only damages enemies stronger than the user" Are you trolling? Since dragon fist damage enemy stronger than user, it will obviously kill enemy weaker than user. Goku is already stronger than ice shenron, so ice shenron would not survive dragon fist. By your logic, if goku full power dragon fist krillin, krillin would survive that?

Apekecik2071 Almost any charged Ki Blast attack can damage enemies stronger than the user. I.E special beam cannon against Raditz. Gokus Kamehameha he launched against Raditz was also several times more powerful than Goku was himself.

Zukari Shi actually it’s simpler. A charged ki attack and certain techniques will raise the users power level temporarily. So it’s not like a technique hurts stronger enemies, it just makes the user surpass them for a moment

vusa siw Yeah it’s not a specific technique. It’s just that Dragon Fist is a technique that raises the users power level temporarily like Kamehameha and Special Beam Cannon

superken54 he’s not saying the dragon fist only deals damage to enemies stronger than goku, read his comment again, he said that the dragon fist was shown to BE ABLE to hurt enemies stronger than goku which is true considering how ssj4 goku got omega shenron by surprise with his dragon fist and would have killed him if it wasn’t for omega shenron being able to regenerate

thats a diff topic for another day

SSJ3 vegito is only 8x stronger than SSJ vegeto.

superken54 He did but not in depth, also commented before fully watching the video

SSJ4 Goku would still win,(Baby Saga one) but maybe with some difficulty

Ssj4 goku stomps.

People dont realise that vegito wasnt even trying against buu. His whole plan was to get absorbed to save his freind otherwise he would have oneshotted buu. Ssj3 vegito would smack a ssj4 goku. Keep in mind that great ape baby whom was on par with a boosted ssj4 goku couldnt even blow up the planet with 2 super galick guns lol

jacob black wolf Seriously? No, SSJ3 Vegito dies a horrible death

@@zachshipley1689 in that sense you're implying that a vegito from z is stronger than ssb goku. Goku training for 15 years already show that he's become much much stronger

@@Spike-Ali SSJB Goku and SSJ4 Goku aren't equal to begin with. Scaling and feats easily points to Blue Goku being far superior to 4.

@@Spike-Ali Long years of training doesn't also equal to Quality training. You can train for 20 years and only have small gains.

Exactly

Him being a kid didn’t make him weaker just lowered his stamina by a little bit

@@gamingtyphoon8989 Actually it did weaken him, because he was out of his prime + The fact he had way less stamina, thus struggling to maintain SSJ3

GamingTyphoon lowering his stamina would in turn make him weaker, he could hardly use ssj3

Black Saiyan God true I guess but I’m saying when he goes super saiyan 3 he’s still as strong as he would be normally

V i d e o s #2 that is a stretch because kid Goku in gt was limited to his full power and he had trouble going ssj3 because it was such a power draining form and even more so with him being a kid... yeah 15 years past so you would expect goku to be stronger than ssj3 during the Buu saga however him being stronger than super vegito is a stretch

V i d e o s #2 Base Vegito = SSJ3 Goku. SS4 still wins but that argument in particular was bad.

@@jacobhafar538 rip my english lol

@@jacobhafar538 and also i think baby saga ssj4 goku=ssj vegito

@@jacobhafar538 base vegito eqaul buutenks or little stronger than buuhan

That's DB Heroes

That's super

Sir Flopsalot 1. They used logic the whole video 2. That applies more to Super

Sir Flopsalot no that’s toryama Logic in db super. He literally can care less about his ongoing stories accuracy or making sense.

Thats DB in general.

Yes, in fact, base fusion is stronger than two Super Saiyan Blues according to DBS: Broly. I know Heroes is well heroes, but they even implied that Blue Fusion & 4 Fusion is stronger than Ultra Instinct, but you can take that with a grain of salt if you wish.

@@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache uh it was shown ultra instinct was stronger

_Heroes showed that SSj4 Xeno Vegito > UI CCL Goku > SSjB CCL Vegito_

I know I'm gonna get a lot of heat, but personally for me I say SSB Gogeta is stronger than UI Goku. Because fusion power level is different all together. Just look at Z, how both SS Gogeta and SS Vegito is way more powerful than even SS3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan. In DBS, we see how SS Gogeta is much more powerful than even two SSB user, a post TOP arc SSB user. SSB Gogeta is definitely on a whole new level because we know how far gap between SS to SSB.

@@shawziiz5031 I know how you feel man and I get what you're saying! Sometimes I want some of my favorite characters to be stronger (like Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Vegeta, Uub, Kale and Caulifla, and Jiren). The great thing that I think Super has taught me and hopefully everybody else too is that these characters are only gonna get stronger!

huh...?

This form would be calles primal instinct

Or just call it Ultra Saiyan Instinct

@@skilarbabcock this is also a cool name!

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that comment.

Realistically if Gt Goku full powered was on the team he could honestly contend with Ultimate Gohan and would be a good member

@@lightinstinct707 honesty being realistic gt goku would body most people in the torment of power. He still loves a good fight don't get me wrong (a bit more mature or not he's still goku afther all) but gt goku has shown that he's matured enough to the point that when his home is in danger he puts his love for fighting to the side to finish the job.

@@lightinstinct707 now with jiren that's a different story. Afther all it would just as possible for him to unlock UI just like his super counterpart but I feel like he wouldn't do good agesnt jiren. Without alittle help from vegata or his super counterpart.

But Jiren's eyes are those of a gray alien. I think Jiren is based on Frieza, since the final form of the latter also has the same concept of "gray alien" and the ToP is very similar to his Z saga.

Karma Wait, so if ssj4 is stronger than Vegito from Z, and Goku Atleast THOUGHT about fusion at first against Beerus before he dismissed the idea...could ssj4 Gogeta scrape universal if he wanted to?

@@lightinstinct707 More like Base GT Goku is stronger than Vegito Z, SSJ4 is on a completely different dimension of power, there should be no comparison at all but most people are retarded when it comes to GT because they're too caught up in hype and popularity not in logic.

even if vegito went super saiyan 2, ssj4 goku would be stronger

Power level: Goku (end of Z) : Base - 60mil SSJ1 - 3 bill SSJ2 - 6 bill SSJ3 - 24 bill Vegeto - 1.8 quad Gohan Raged SSJ2 - 6 trill Gohan Ultimate - 60 bill Gotenxt - 7.2 bill Gotenxt SSJ3 - 2.88 trill Goku BOGs arch Base - 1.2 bill SSJ1 - 60 bill SSJ2 - 120 bill SSJ3 - 480 bill SSG - 100 oct Beerus - 10 non Whis - 15 non Resurrection F Base - 24 bill SSJ1 - 1.2 trill SSJ2 - 2.4 trill SSJ3 - 9.6 trill SSG - 2 non SSB - 100 non Universe 7 Vs 6 Base - 480 bill SSJ1 - 24 trill SSJ2 - 48 trill SSJ3 - 192 trill SSG - 40 non SSB - 2 dec Goku Black Arch Base - 9.6 trill SSJ1 - 480 trill SSJ2 - 960 trill SSJ3 - 3.840 quad SSG - 800 non SSB - 40 dec SS Rose - 2 undec Vegeto Base - 92.160 sept Vegeto SSB - 368.64 quintdecillion Zeno arch Base - 192 trill SSJ1 - 9.6 quad SSJ2 - 19.2 quad SSJ3 - 76.8 quad SSG - 16 dec SSB - 800 dec UI Omen - 40 undec UI Mastered - 800 undec Broly Base - 3.840 quad SSJ1 - 192 quad SSJ2 - 384 quad SSJ3 - 1.536 quint SSG - 320 dec SSB - 16 undec Gogeta Base - 460.8 quad Gogeta Blue 1.920 undec GT Base - 24 bill SSJ1 - 1.2 trill SSJ2 - 2.4 trill SSJ3 - 9.6 trill SSJ4 - 96 trill Gogeta SSJ4 - 11.520 quad Broly LSSJ - 3 trill Absolon Base - 480 bill SSJ1 - 24 trill SSJ2 - 48 trill SSJ3 - 192 trill SSJ4 -1.920 quad SSJ5 - 192 quad My factors: (To baseform) Zenki boost - 2x Ozaroo - 10x Arch of training / KioKen - 20x False SSJ - 25x SSJ1 - 50x SSJ2 - 100x Metamarine Fusion - 1+1x60 / 120x SSJ3 - 400 x (GT's timesip) Mystic/Rage/Legend - 1'000x SSJ4 - 4'000x Metamarine SSJ3 - 48'000 LSSJ - 50'000x Rageboost SSJ2 - 100'000x SSJ5 - 400'000x Potara (Vegeta x Goku) - 60 million x GT Metamarine SSJ4 -192 million x Potara (V x G) SSJ - 3 billion x SSJ God - 80 quintillion x SSJ Blue - 4 sextillion x SSJ Blue KK20 - 80 sextillion x (To SSJ God) SSJ God - 1 SSJ Blue - 50 SSJ Blue KK20 - 1'000 Ultra Instinct Omen / SSJ Rose - 2'500 SSJ Blue Gogeta - 6'000 Ultra Instinct Mastered - 50'000 SSJ Blue Vegeto - 480 trillion

@@11oldgaming46 yes and he'd be stronger than ssj3...and blue XD

SpirothMoonlight I like you

super and gt exist in different timelines but yeah gt is stronger than super.

@@animix8865 😂😂😂

@@animix8865 super is stronger

@@animix8865 Beerus and Jiren beg to differ

That's stupid by that logic future trunks who is 20 years from future would solo everyone in Dragonball z.its not about the time passed.that's irrelevant.

What about Meta Rildo? I'm referring to when he combines with M-2. Depending on how the scenario is played, I could imagine that to be posing a problem for Buuhan.

@@diarawisteria2218 I see u on that 1 Although idk how he would get the sigma force to show up to the fight with him. Even then it's kinda dangerous cuz buu might just end up absorbing THEM too. Makes me wonder how machinery works with him. But this would definitely be interesting. Only problem is I don't remember rildo using many very many large scale ki blasts, so maybe he isn't very proficient with ki, which puts him at a huge disadvantage against a character that needs to be disentigrated

GT>super

DBS Goku in base>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all characters in dbgt.

We’ll if Vegito can last five minutes in Blue, he could probably go a good 30 minutes with SSJ3 Kaioken. You’re right though Goku slams

i had no idea. lol. i made this video 2 weeks ago. So thats not true

@@Geekdom101 okok now u can see the future 😂😂

Blue would destroy SSJ4. The time thing is something that can't be taken as gospel. First, Toriyama didn't have anything to do with GT. Second, we saw the Potara fusion get retconned later, which makes fusions across arcs not necessarily reliable. And third, Blue has the power of gods. The gods are strong enough to destroy galaxies. SSJ4 is never implied to have that level of power.

I honestly thought ssb gogeta was gonna defuse mid fight But the thing is, ssj4 hasnt shown the same feats that even regular god form goku has, so the time thing isnt a good argument to that case.

BOI

@@tyebou3276 now that is a little highball of dbs Goku and lowball of gogeta ssj4

My guy SSGSS Goku OR Vegeta molests SSJ4 Gogeta. Super Saiyan God Goku is CASUALLY threatening the universe by just clashing fists with Beerus and SSGSS Goku And Vegeta are making the Gods SHIT themselves. Those same gods by the way can erase SSJ4 Gogeta before he can even blink. Then you’ve got SSGSS Kaioken Goku and SSGSS Evolution Vegeta pressing Jiren who by just walking SHOOK THE INFINITE WORLD OF VOID SSGSS Gogeta bends SSJ4 Gogeta over, rips his pants off, penetrates and beats those cheeks inside out. And just like you said it’s even worse since SSJ4 Gogeta can’t stay fused while SSGSS Gogeta can go ALL OUT NO HOLDS BARED BALLS DEEP FOR 30 MINUTES

@@Geekdom101ok that is really funny!

@@Geekdom101 wow somebody's mad lmao

Why talking about his family ? Maybe his family hate DB :D

Marsin Sesay get wrecked.

@@Geekdom101 when it comes to history you're class. No one could and should deny that. But whe it comes to power scailing. You suck bro