There will be good comics, when readers want it so badly, that DC and Marvel will have no choice but to give it to them

1987: Jon Cryer plays Lex Luthor's nephew. 2019: Jon Cryer plays Lex Luthor. He's come a long way in his acting career.

Guard that couch well. I hear Darkseid will stop at nothing to sit in every couch in the multiverse.

"We have no agency or power of our own. We're basically pawns in Superman's game." Oh, so, it's the Injustice universe. Neat.

"Stealin' your stuff!" "Aww dammit!" Well played, I actually laughed out loud before the title played!

Q: What do you do if Superman wants to take your nation's nuclear weapons? A: Applaud wildly.

Superman: consulting with the elder gods before Raiden made it cool

"My powers don't put me above the law". -Superman, Superman Vs. The Elite.

I love how Linkara gives Superman and Clark Kent slightly different voices so as to show how Superman does make an effort to hide his identity with more than just a pair of glasses, and yet with Batman and Bruce Wayne he just gives both the "gargling marbles" voice.

Superman: takes himself as the highest form of authority on Earth and ridding nuclear missiles. Any other story like this would have Batman running in to punch him.

The guy who played Lenny is playing Lex Luther now, and he is _killing_ it in the role.

That Allison bit at the beggining was really charming. You can pretty much see Lewis smiling as she says shes gonna steal his stuff.

Superman took a page out of Raiden’s book: I MUST CONSULTE WITH THE ELDER GO- eer ELDER KRYPTONINS

It's amazing how Linkara keeps working in "Over There" references into his Superman reviews.

I love how they left out all the scenes of regular people breathing/talking in space. Like even that was too silly for them to try and adapt. Like in the deleted scene with Jeremy at the end, he wasn't wearing a space suit.

The only way for me to solve this crisis is to be Superman IV: The Quest for Peace!

This movie may have been terrible, but without it, we wouldn't have Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor in the CW Supergirl series. And holy hell, is he MASTERFUL in the role.

Fun fact: that crossover with you know who was my first exposure to you and your lamp collection

It's amazing how much use you get out of that too much pink energy is dangerous clip

15:18 So basically, the elders are telling Superman to leaves so that Earth will be "over there" because over there has to deal with its own problems? I guess that's just in Kryptonian genes.

You know, the "Nuclear Man is solar powered" idea could have worked more... if they had based it on how Superman gains his powers from yellow sunlight. Because of how some versions of Superman can store up the energy he gains from the yellow sunlight for later use when no longer under it, that could then be used to explain why Nuclear Man can't last long when he is no longer in yellow sunlight. Because he was made to be stronger than Superman, this unintentionally creates a design flaw in him, that makes him burn through his reserves faster than Superman. at least that's what i think could have been done to better explain Nuclear Man's weakness.

And it wasn't until this moment that I realized why Jon Cryer was cast as Lex in Supergirl. I had *completely* forgotten about Lenny.

Nuclear Man: "EE NAY CHUK!" Superman: "O...kay."

There aren't enough heart emojis i can give to the part with Allison. It was so funny and wholesome and perfect

3:59 though one of the aspects that people loved about Christopher Reeve was that he looked so much like comic Superman.

Ah... the episode where I first encountered Linkara and was wondering who he was instead of NC.

Superman the last Kryptonian.....besides his cousin, dog, radioactive garbage monster, phantom zone prisoners, super computer cyborg, future child with Lois, etc.

What an Obscurus cameo! :p

Meanwhile this movie on alternative universe: They got a better budget and script, instead make Nuclear Man they used Bizarro on the movie.

You forgot to mention how in the comic, Nuclear Man didn't take Lacey into space whereas in the movie, he did. It's another significant improvement as it shows that the comic creators at least did their science homework!

I love the fact that the comic acknowledged the little known fact that human can't breath in Outer, FUCKING, Space. something that the movie decided not to do 29:30

I like that the ex-Channel Awesome people are still doing crossovers and staying in touch.

You see, Superman is indeed the last "true" kryptonian. He stands for everything what made Krypton great, while places like Argo and the Phantom Zone grew resentful of the old ways.

Oh boy, That crossover with NC & Linkara nearly 10 Years Ago, That takes me back.

You know linkara... the only reason christopher reeves would play Superman again in this flick would be to have him come up with the plot which caused the whole “supes solving nuclear war” thing. (I’m also this video’s first comment)

29:30 And on that fateful day, Jeremy conceived his plan of a world without nations, and put plans in place to create Outer Heaven.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Jon Cryer's portrayal of Lex Luthor in the most recent season of Supergirl. He was actually quite good and more than made up for his appearance in the movie.

26:57 .... There is nothing on Earth that can describe how hard I laughed.

This comic better contain the little-noticed error that when Lex cut Superman's hair with a pair of hedge-clippers, it wasn't the iron ball that created a circular hole in the display case, it was the shattered glass hitting it first.

"At the time, it was the worst Superman film." You know what they say, though: time makes fools of us all.

I love the fact that at 10:54 I immediately started quoting the "Over There" shtick in my head the same time Linkara did. I've been watching his content too long it seems.

22:15 I don't know, if you're feeling generous, Nuclear-Mans weakness might be something he inherited from Superman, who also gains his power from the sun. The Radiation might have destroyed his capacity to store energy.

YOU'RE DENYING US ANOTHER LUPA CROSSOVER??? YOU... THAT'S JUST EVIL!!!

"Since then there have been many more Superman movies" Yeah, all TWO of them...

In regards to Superman killing, there are two (technically four) deaths I'm completely fine with being part of Superman's lore. The first is Doomsday. The second, and most important, is General Zod (and his two henchmen). In the original comic, Superman gave them a formal execution by Kryptonite after they'd murdered an entire planet and were going to do the same to Earth. Why am I okay with Superman killing Zod? Because it wasn't easy for him to do and it haunted him for years. Killing someone should not be so easy to do that it's just a casual action for a superhero. It was something Superman felt he needed to do but was not happy he had to do, and that action fueled his future desires to never have to kill again. It ironically shows how precious life is to Superman and in my opinion is a very mature way of handling superheroes killing. Unlike Batman, whom has psychological trauma as the reason he doesn't kill, because he's afraid he'll never he able to stop, Superman has killed before and is willing to kill again ONLY if there's no other way, and he does everything he can to find another way before that. It's why I don't like the Injustice version or the Justice Lord version of Superman, where killing is just the easiest thing in the world and it's done almost gleefully. "I killed someone, now I are evil!"

I can’t wait for a year and a half to pass and then it’ll be open season for Linkara to review Superman: Year One.

Really surreal that I started watching you cause of that crossover and now it's come full circle

So, nobody's going to ask why Lex is allowed to run around loose after nearly destroying the west coast of the United States?

Honestly if this was made in 90s or now, I imagine the North Korean would probably protest to Superman about the nuclear stuff. And they be stupid enough to do so.

When you're depressed as fuck, it's nice to find that Linkara's uploaded to get you through the evening. Something comforting and familiar about an AT4W video. Thanks Lewis.

Jon cryer would go on to play lex Luther in Supergirl season 4 which ended with an episode called the quest for peace

Honestly though, when you realize how messy the production was and the budget being hacked away, they did as much as they could with what they were given.

I must say, Superman 4 existing was totally worth it to have Jon Cryer as _Lex_ Luthor in Supergirl. I had my doubts when he was first announced, but he knocked it out of the park.

In the next DC film universe I cast lupa as catwoman

Superman Ends Mutually Assured Destruction: A Quest for Peace. Next time: Superman helps to solve World Hunger in: A QUEST FOR PEAS.

23:54 The look of pure joy on Lupa's face is precious. She is a treasure 😻

Ironically Jon Cryer now plays Lex Luther on Super Girl.

Eclipso: Thank you, Superman, for fulfilling the absolutely bizarrely esoteric condition for me to put in an appearance. Superman: ...you're not a MAGICAL villain, are you, Eclipso? Eclipso: Literal wrath of god. Superman: Aww shit.

And there will be a first comment There will be a first comment when the people want it so badly, their replies have no choice but to acknowledge them.

Nuclear Man = "Doomsday" from BvS The equation is true but F*#%ing terrible.

10:23 It's also a good thing people don't harm others with unconventional weapons. Noodle Implements. I love that trope name.

It’s nice to know that you’re willing to cover Superman 4 twice with different people showing how far you’ve come as a reviewer over the years. It’s pretty cool 😊

Nice to see you're still keeping in touch with other former CA members.

19:33 Sooo Red Son/Injustice Superman?

If she does steal your stuff just tell Phelous, he'll probably make her listen to Old Man reading creepypastas till she gives it back.

Wall repair vision has got to be one of Sups's most underrated, yet useful powers. He sure could have used that in the Batman VS Superman movie...Or the Man Of Steel movie after AN ENTIRE TOWN is destroyed cause of his fight.

15:42 "betrayed, betrayed, Betrayed, BEtrayed, BETrayed, BeTRAYED, BETRAYED" - blast they missed a silly trick there :)

One of the biggest reasons I'm so happy that I found your channel other than the fact that I like comics and find your content highly entertaining. But one of the other big reasons is just due to how much I have learned about comics in general. From certain artists and writers to how comics or characters were created. The most important though is learning about the heroes from ones I never even heard of before to even learning more about my favorite ones. And the one character that you got me to actually give a chance and not totally be biased towards was Superman. As I always just felt he was a way to OP character who was bland and boring as a person. Yet I learned when he's handled correctly he can be such a interesting character.

Fun fact: Jon Cryer is playing Lex Luther, he also played Lenny, Lex Luther's son Also fun fact: Nuclear Man is now canon in DC comics!

Jeremy, seeing a World Without Borders, would go on to become America’s greatest soldier - The Boss.

23:54 I just want to imagine that Allison has just been standing there this whole review in that pose with the DVD set.

At least it got the character right, at least it's in color. Was that a jab at MoS

Time to play everyone's favourite game: INTERNATIONAL POLITICS!

Anyone else remember reading Injustice Year One where Superman makes the same promise to dispose of all nuclear weapons, and it was portrayed as a BAD thing to show that Superman was NOT THINKING CLEARLY. How much you want to bet Tom Taylor used this movie as inspiration on how to NOT portray that scene?

"At the time, it was considered the worst Superman film." *cough* Superman Returns *cough*

Boy, way to unnecessarily get your hackles up about there being no minorities in this comic like a total SJ-pfffhahahaha I can't even finish that sentence with a straight face. Man, you just keep getting better Lewis. I fuckin' love your stuff.

What’s weird is that UN scene is actually done rather well in both the Justice League Animated series and by Lara Kent in the Injustice dream timeline.

I will never get tired of the “Over There” joke!

Great review as ever, Linkara. Just wanted to pop in with a counterpoint to your arguments from 17:50-20:00. Just my interpretation of the details and point, maybe they'll make sense to you, maybe not. Superman didn't consult with elected leaders, sure, but that's because he was already GIVEN their opinion. Not just once, but twice. The President openly stated that they had NO CHOICE but to continue armament, given the failure of the peace summit. And he's technically correct, depending on your personal moral philosophy. The threat of nuclear annihilation drastically shifts the stakes of the prisoner's dilemma present in international politics: if you disarm, but your opponent doesn't, the destruction they can deliver is of SUCH a scope that you are dooming millions of others to suffer the results of your choice in addition to yourself. And that's what created, in part, the ever-growing nuclear stockpile: given the animosity between the two superpowers, neither could fully trust the other to actually carry out its word, and therefore could not, morally, step down if they thought their opponent couldn't. Otherwise they'd be dooming millions to domination by their ideological opposite. Secondly, you have the very scene you lament being cut from the UN scene: Superman is offered sponsorship by EVERY member of the United Nations. Every nation trusts Superman to speak and act in a way they support. And sure, ambassadors aren't elected officials in reality, but they are appointed by them (in democratic countries), and we know that the dramatic shorthand of the United Nations delegates is that they represent their nation's collective will. Thus, the movie tells us this IS the will of the people, they simply haven't had the ability to resolve it themselves because they cannot trust their enemies to act in good faith. The escalation of nuclear weapons is a matter they conduct because they have no other choice. But they can and DO trust Superman to do so. This isn't, in my interpretation, Superman deciding he knows best and ruling the world. This is Superman providing a trusted party to resolve an issue that no one WANTED. Which he has heard from the mouths of children, presidents, the very paper he works at, and, one presumes, more. Now, could they have spent more time on this? Shown him hearing people lamenting the lack of options in the USSR and other nations, to make it clearer that this was the will of ALL peoples, not just Americans? Sure, but 1980's America wasn't always the best at thinking in terms of global unity.

hey! this was how i discovered you. think it was a crossover with nostalgia critic. 3:34 more comic adaptations based on movie adaptations based on comic books should do this.

Hmm, maybe the UN should be willing to work with Superman as an alternative to nuclear weapons. Perhaps they should draft some kind of accords where a UN panel votes on where and when Superman is needed to render aid and where he would not be permitted to act. That would be a brilliant idea!

I've always like the Nuclear Man. He's got a great look, interesting power/weakness dynamic, even an okay origin. He's a weird cross between Bizarro and Parasite, he could be one of the great Superman villains. Instead he's tied to this piece of crap of a movie, and he's a joke.

29:31 - 29:45 🎵A Whole New World! A dazzling place I never knew!🎵

I love the Lupa cameo and your exploration into why the movie doesn't get Superman and why he wouldn't remove the missiles. Love the episode and can't wait for the retrospective, especially since your retrospective of Blue Beetle was so good.

Another one of Nuclear Man's powers; super gold Lee press on nails! Watch out for 'em!

Loved the intro haha. Great episode, sir

Bonèr. The classy way.

Kryptonian Elders: Seeing as you're not native to Earth Superman, this means that Earth is _"Over there",_ and _"Over there"_ needs to take care of it's own problems.

...can it still be considered a "lot" of kyrpton's civilization survived considering that the super animals, multiple cities , artifacts and phantom zone criminals all add up to significantly less than one percent of the original civilization?

…Upshot of this movie: Morgan Freeman got an Oscar nomination. Seriously. (This movie’s shit budget is explained by it being produced by Cannon Films, not the Salkinds. Cannon only got Christopher Reeve back by agreeing to produce a pet project of his called Street Smart, in which Freeman played a pimp. I haven’t seen it, but I did enjoy the first Breakin’ movie, which gives me reasonable optimism for it)

5:26 "A timeline where I raised a Saiyan for seven years, please free him from the Phantom Zone please."

Nuclear Man: You will be my queen. And... Now I'm thinking of Mr. Neutron, the most dangerous and terrifing man in the word. The man with the strength of army, the wisdom of all the scholars in history, the man who had the power to destroy the world. Nuclear Man: I have just won a Kellogg's Corn Flake Competition.

So fun fact, did you know that nuclear man is Canon of the comics now? He shows up in The Phantom Zone and fights Rognal Zar for a few good pages, he's actually giving a good amount of dramatic weight before he's murdered. I don't know about you but I was delighted. Also, y'all should read Brian Michael Bendis' Superman, it's amazing

13:40 I really want to see a montage of scenes like that where John Williams' theme blairs over Superman being UNheroic ^^ XD

Good review Linkara! I'll admit, I've always had a soft-spot for Superman IV because we had this one on tape when I was a kid and I watched it quite a bit. Even with that, I'd rather watch SM IV over SM III. IV's bad, but its more straight forward and less silly than SM III. Good reflection to on the problem with Superman declaring 'yeah I'm getting rid of all nuclear weapons.' Jumps right into Injustice Superman territory. A better thing they could have done was shown Superman convincing the US and Soviet leadership to trust him and give permission to get rid of the nukes. It would play into the opening scene as when Supes saves the Soviet cosmonauts, showing how Superman protects everybody regardless of the Cold War. Great review again Lewis, looking forward to the Cassandra Cain month. BTW, while I know you've not seen the CW shows, Jon Cryer came back to play Lex Luthor for Supergirl Season 4. He was EXCELLENT, incorporating elements of every shade of Luthor, the mad scientist, evil businessman, and brilliant manipulator. It was a great performance and way better than the DCEU Lex. Also, look forward to seeing you and Allison doing a team-up review :)

It still baffles me that Snyder thought it was a good idea to rip off Nuclear Man of all things in order to create DOOMSDAY (Yes I know about Superboy, but be honest, it was played WAY more like Nuclear Man than him.)

14:22 You can tell that the writers are from New York, that was a very relevant phrase if I'm remembering my timeline correctly

Okay, so... the bit where Nuclear Man turns into a missile is definitely some miscommunication from the original script vs the comic. The deleted scene just has NM flying towards soviet airspace, and everyone assumes it's a missile. They talk about a small nuke because that's what their radar seems to indicate. But it's just Nuclear Man, he's not supposed to actually transform like that.

So.....when is the “Superman 4: The Quest For Peace: The Movie: The Crossover Review 2: part 1of 2”

“Wow, a lot of our people have survived the destruction of our planet.” This is funnier since the current Action Comics storyline (#1032) revealed that a group of Kryptonians were exiled for worshipping (legally distinct) Cthulhu. The more things changed, the more they stay the same, right DC?