Surprising Aspects of The Atonement: Dr. Jeremy Treat Interview

Surprising Aspects of The Atonement: Dr. Jeremy Treat Interview - The Becket Cook Show Ep. 141

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In today’s episode, Becket chats with his pastor, Dr. Jeremy Treat, about his new book on the atonement. You’ll be surprised and edified by this one.
The atonement is central to Christian theology and essential for following Jesus. In this addition to the Short Studies in Systematic Theology series, pastor Jeremy Treat explains what Scripture teaches about the atonement and how it impacts one’s daily life.
Treat demonstrates that the death of Christ is a multi-dimensional work within the story of the kingdom of God. While the accomplishments of the cross are unending (including forgiveness, victory, and renewal), the heart of the cross is substitution―Jesus dying on behalf of sinners. Christ’s atoning work reconciles believers to God and to one another, calling them to a life of obedience. This book presents a kingdom-framed, substitution-centered, Trinitarian, integrated, communal, and life-changing approach to the doctrine of atonement.
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@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

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@Royscoop-mk4me 6 ай бұрын

I would never turn this off! Just seeing the word Atonement made me excited. I feel like we can always know more about this, about what God did for us! ❤

@Royscoop-mk4me 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for talking about shame. Awhile back I had to go back in my memory to my life as a single mother before I was a Christian. I had forgot about how bad a mother I was. I mean I didn’t beat my kids or anything but even though I thought I loved them with all my heart, I realized how much I put myself first. And I was reading Gods Word and I can’t remember where I was reading but whatever it was I realized Jesus died for my sins yes, but He also took and suffered my shame. It was such a revelation and a comfort. I was praising Him more for Him doing that for me. What a Great Savior! ❤

@madeleineboleslawski1884 8 ай бұрын

Pray I could find a minster like him. He knows scripture!!! 🎉

@sovereigngodlisaloves9525 8 ай бұрын

Indeed. Get yourself to a Bible believing Bibe preaching church 💕.

@crystal9626 8 ай бұрын

At-one-ment. I love that we can be at one with Jesus. I think we don’t really understand the depth of what this means for us.

@ragamuffin2829 6 ай бұрын

This conversation got my spirit leaping. So love hearing afresh all the wonder and splendour of God. I'm grateful I never grew up with a 1D view of the Cross but a holistic view - great to have the clear reasons to back it up.

@IntuitiveCoachTheresa 8 ай бұрын

Amidst an end times church awash with the leaven of false doctrine this conversation ia a fount of clean, living water. Thank you and blessings!

@wisdom6437 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this important podcast, as usual! God bless you Becket and protect you always. I love you. Thank you!!!🙏🙏🙏❤️✝️👏please pray for my three sons and two wives to return to Jesus and be healed and delivered.

@kellyschroeder7437 8 ай бұрын

Amen. Thanks for the topic and conversation. Do not think it’s just the current generation that needs this informing but even “old” “believers” who have learned and adjusted and perhaps solidified/hardened a certain way 💞💙🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💙💞✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻

@cateconger7047 8 ай бұрын

I LOVE that!!! The Cross is a VICTORY that is revealed in the Resurrection!!

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@cateconger7047 8 ай бұрын

@@BecketCook I get my book on Monday!!

@yvonnecrozier4536 8 ай бұрын

Every Christian should watch this ❤

@PennySmart 8 ай бұрын

Yes, Amen, "the Cross is the victory revealed by the Resurrection "

@rachelhaste3181 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for having this interview and teaching so much about the Atonement…. I learned a lot! I especially appreciate the talk about shame as I deal with this and how I see myself as I was abused. My husband and I enjoyed meeting Dr. Treat last July when we visited LA Reality Church! We asked him to deliver a thank you note to you, Becket, as we greatly appreciate your ministry ♥️♥️♥️

@gailpurcell1649 8 ай бұрын

Many people who have had near death experiences shared that Jesus loved them as if they were the only person in the world, but He loves everyone just like that. We do matter to Him as a unique, special, person. Scripture is full of examples of this - He has numbered the hairs on our heads, we are fearfully and wonderfully made, he sees when even the sparrow falls and we are more valuable than the sparrows.

@divyaruth3563 7 ай бұрын

This definitely was a ‘treat’. Such deep theology!

@babyruthswt2 8 ай бұрын

So thankful for this encouragement in the midst of a discouraging time when people are diverging from historical Biblical truth.

@seanswart8102 8 ай бұрын

Wow - this was cool. Would love to hear him unpacking the "once saved, always saved" concept (is it so, how does perseverance of the saints work, what should it look like). Thanks for the show, Beckett.

@daniellenunez185 7 ай бұрын

I loved the part about the cross not being a defeat but a victory. Wow.

@kellyschroeder7437 8 ай бұрын

So wish so many including so many Catholics and Mary worshipers would realize the significance of Jesus Christ coming from the Father and born as a human taking on our flesh and yet wholly and fully God and chose to die for every sin and accepted the punishment upon Him and separation from the Father - willing to die for me - willing to die for all who He is calling and will call to himself. Amen - died to satisfy the wrath of God ✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻. No other name under heaven by which we are saved. Thank You Jesus Christ ✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@nschlaak 8 ай бұрын

Your guest nailed the summation perfectly in my opinion.

@denisebeverage4814 7 ай бұрын

Love this! So encouraging to hear the wisdom of your pastor! Just excellent--thank you for the great work you do, Becket! And thank you to Pastor Jeremy! God bless you both!🙏🏼🕊️

@LadyB777 8 ай бұрын

I loved this conversation! After 12 years away from the faith I now feel like I need to build up my understanding of theology from scratch and I've been working my way through the atonement over the past few months and i found Jeremy's insight really helpful. I think I'll get the book as well so I can dive deeper.

@carolbradley4845 8 ай бұрын

This is so thought provoking and encouraging! Sometimes I forget about my position in Christ. Thank you for sharing this with us!

@melissa-wz6uj 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely LOVE your channel and love for Jesus becket ❤🙌🙌🙌👊👊👊☺️

@ksto1427 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Really appreciated the expounding of the atonement. It helps to understand this multi faceted accomplishment and gift of God😊

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your support! I appreciate it! God Bless

@Albert01860 8 ай бұрын

Top issue in our faith! Thank you for writing on the atonement

@alejandrorodarte5476 7 ай бұрын

Great topic! Thanks for the Awesome Atonement conversation. Very much needed today. 👍🏽. Blessings from Tx🤠

@Royscoop-mk4me 6 ай бұрын

I forgot I had watched this before. But I’m loving going through it again! ❤

@christylynnhogan 7 ай бұрын

Crucial points to understand in this interview! Thank you. Praise God!

@BecketCook 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@angelaroberts7122 8 ай бұрын

Becket, this is so timely! Thank you for sharing this with us. Thank you Jeremy for addressing this truth about the atonement. I have always said that the reason we struggle with sin is because we don’t know the power of His Cross. You covered it so well. Blessings to you both.

@truthwatch2858 8 ай бұрын

Shalom Blessings ✝️🇮🇱

@natalyajohnston8387 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for sharing this information!!!❤

@rachelhayhurst-mason7846 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Becket and Dr Jeremy 😊😊 We really need this reminder. It seems too easy to take for granted or dismiss God's amazing work while He was on earth, and that is a tragedy far greater than any I can think of (besides rejecting it). God bless you both 🤗

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@rachelhayhurst-mason7846 8 ай бұрын

@@BecketCook ❤

@maryowen1722 8 ай бұрын

Because of Jesus’s atoning sacrifice for us, we NEVER have to cry out, “ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?”😢😢😢Hallelujah, Amen!✝️💟

@judymartuscello114 8 ай бұрын

Love you Becket❤

@christineploeg1992 8 ай бұрын

We need atonement!!!

@maryanngames9353 8 ай бұрын

Yes!! Thank you for having a conversation that is giving listeners some good spiritual meat.

@SamAliMorr8905 6 ай бұрын

It is good news! Thank you!

@Caliburnius 8 ай бұрын

Just sent for hardcopies of this book and also "Seek First" by Pastor Treat. Very impressive chat. Good news, indeed. 🥰

@TexasLyoness 8 ай бұрын

Becket is back & in uniform💁🏻‍♂️. Christ is definitely😅 the gift. 💝🎚️Happy birthday to you in advance Becket. Wishing you a fun & relaxing celebration. Cheers!🥂

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@godblessedsista2870 8 ай бұрын

So useful as we are bombarded by unbelief in the Awesomeness of God these days.

@sherylbullock4716 7 ай бұрын

One your best interviews, Becket! Thank you. I have you have your pastor on again to talk about other things.

@BecketCook 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@ybh8ful 3 ай бұрын

A very rich episode 🙌

@homeofsecretmarae3058 6 ай бұрын

I believe God led me to this video specifically, I am going to buy his book!! I’ve believed and agreed with all that he said, but I’ve been listening to someone who really opposes penal substitution and pins that against all the other aspects of atonement. I need to be refreshed and my mind renewed on this again! Thank you!

@terrigreen100 7 ай бұрын

This interview was just completely amazing ! Thank you for sharing Becket ❤️

@JenniferJohnson-fh8fx 6 ай бұрын

This is great basic teaching!

@Tweeza57 7 ай бұрын

Awesome- the bit about God not having different hats. He is who He is when He judges or is gracious, merciful, loving, gentle kind forgiving…… and this made me realise that we are who we are ie product of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil ( quite a mouthful) and that we don’t have different hats either. That everything we do whether good or bad is tainted by the fall. And when I saw that Jesus saying there is no one good but God took on a clearer meaning. God, without the covering of Christ’s blood sees NO good in us but yet He loved us John 3:16 NASBS [16] "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. Now I’m astounded after being a Christian 41 yrs. And if I do good it’s Christs power for apart from Him I do nothing. John 15:5 NASBS [5] I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. ie nothing of any value. Paradoxically this is good news and so unburdening. Thank you Becket 🙂

@jam1369 8 ай бұрын

Hallelujah. I felt the Holy Spirit on hearing the powerful Truth of Christ's atonement.

@ThePrairieChronicles 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for another amazing video. Lots to think about. One thing I've always struggled to try to understand is the spiritual Groundhog Day / the unending do over belief so many Christians talk about and model. I unexpectedly became a Christian 3 years ago (in my 50s), read the Bible cover to cover, and was even more perplexed by the Groundhog Day belief - as in _I didn't see that in MY Bible_ . Dr Treat explains it very well.

@bkmarshall6804 7 ай бұрын

Biblical, reformed, succinct. Addresses many errors and trip hazards. So good to hear informed doctrine applied in today's context. Thank you for what you do.

@landynikole5347 7 ай бұрын

So good ❤

@lloyannehurd 8 ай бұрын

Part of what has taken away from the full understanding of the cross is the expression “Jesus is my personal Savior.” Sure, but He is more than that. I think that idea came out in the 1970’s in the Campus Crusades. I had never heard it until then. Then came the new music that emphasized “I” instead of “we”. A lot of emphasis on the self.

@theloveofgod1740 8 ай бұрын

Never thought of this topic before. This was so interesting. Great video, Brother Beckett!

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@laurensoileauleboeuf8038 7 ай бұрын

Great explanation and discussion. Thank you!

@BecketCook 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@angelacarroccia5123 8 ай бұрын

Never a subject to be taken for granted!❤😊

@susanjanehart4877 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this Becket. God bless you

@soronyashafer9104 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@BecketCook 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your support! I appreciate it! God Bless

@elizabethacosta6703 8 ай бұрын

Galatians 2:20 😊 blessings

@DanellTomasella 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Becket! Sharing📢 I found his book on Amazon and hope you have Pastor Treat on again.

@BecketCook 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! God Bless

@michellecrouch6736 8 ай бұрын

This was soooo good!!

@martha6542 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! 👍🏼💯

@jam1369 8 ай бұрын

Hallelujah. Great discussion on the most powerful work of God.

@lorieneighbors7092 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting!

@kathyarmstrong8644 8 ай бұрын

Terrific discussion

@lt7378 8 ай бұрын

Yes, the Atonement is very, very important and under appreciated in Christian circles. In order to appreciate the Atonement, we need to really understand the holiness of God and His hatred of sin and the rebellious nature of sinful humanity. Praise God for the Atonement; for without it, we all are lost condemned sinners.

@vocalruss 8 ай бұрын

So so good! I will be sharing!

@kellyschroeder7437 8 ай бұрын

Amen ✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 * wrong story* Kingdom Story 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@pipet54 8 ай бұрын

As the daughter of a medicine man thats all that mattered was a clean slate im not in my head but in my heart iys a cultural thing 🤷🏽‍♀️

@bretttimmons2653 8 ай бұрын

Great show. Thank you. I have a suggestion on your next book. Try reading Gentle and Lowly: The heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers. By Dane Ortlund. It is excellent and shows the depth of His live for us.

@GG-fs6yp 8 ай бұрын

Yes, real meat not milk! Ty

@micheletisdale7467 8 ай бұрын

So awesome!! I have to get this book!!

@mikebosler7516 7 ай бұрын

👍❤️🙏

@joyfuljaj 8 ай бұрын

Wow. I need to do more reading on this. I had only defined atonement as satisfaction of God's wrath. I have I guess made propitiation and atonement the same thing. Are they synonymous or does one encompass more than the other? Thinking on 1 John 4:10. Or do both atonement and propitiation encompass more?

@heidigerber8432 8 ай бұрын

I thought propitiation is Christ's work removing our sin & guilt as well as dealing with God's wrath against our sin. Atonement in the OT was not removing sin, but covering it. The blood of bulls & goats could not remove the sin, only cover it to appease God's wrath. Only Christ's sacrificial death could completely remove our sin & satisfy God's requirement for holiness.

@maryowen1722 8 ай бұрын

If a lot of believers had THEIR way, there would be a BloodLESS sacrifice and atonement which would be WorthLESS, albeit more palatable.

@heartofalegend 7 ай бұрын

This was a wonderful presentation of a subject few of us think about on any deep level! I was really hoping the pastor was going to deal with the issue of definite atonement. He spoke several times of Christ rescuing "His people" from their sins, but how exactly does that happen? If Christ did everything Jeremy said He did, why isn't everybody saved? Even if some don't believe in Him, did He not die for the sin of unbelief? So how is it that anyone is lost if Christ bore in full everyone's sins? I was hoping Jeremy would address that, but it never really came out. Maybe we could have a follow-up interview with him? Or I suppose we can just buy the book and see what he says there.😉

@clm3436 8 ай бұрын

Guilt is from the inside out Shame is from the outside in

@truthseeker9975 8 ай бұрын

No mention in the introduction, what has happened in Israel, God''s land and his chosen people.

@tubermind 8 ай бұрын

This is great. But I do seem to differ so far (still listening at this writing) with one point. God DOES love us in such an individualistic way, TOO, that is mind-blowing. He knows everything, and He knows us better by far than we even know ourselves, and He does WOO us to Him in the most amazing and perfect way. It's like a tailored just for us, irresistible manner of calling us to Him. Of course we're a flock, we're a people, but we're also singular while we're One, too. Maybe I misunderstood the pastor's words, but I felt a bit if negation on how individually we ARE Loved by God, and that Knowingness is,vI am sure, part of the holy specialness of His calling for us into that MOST intimate of relationships.

@marquidabacon 8 ай бұрын

I agree. Jesus interaction with people recorded in Scripture informs me that this is true.

@tubermind 8 ай бұрын

@@marquidabacon That's right. So many examples of how we are KNOWN individually in scriptural writings.

@tubermind 8 ай бұрын

But also in all of our own unique stories of how we came to surrender to God...

@gummylens5465 8 ай бұрын

Timestamps 1:37 The centrality of the Atonement 3:22 What is Atonement 5:18 Twin Errors many have about the Atonement 6:37 One Extreme: Jesus died only to get you to heaven 7:56 Other Extreme: Jesus died only to make the world a better place (Social Gospel) 9:05 The cross is the story of a kingdom 9:36 A shallow view of sin impacts how we see the Atonement 11:54 The Great Exchange 13:15 The cross is not a "second chance" 14:09 Substitutionary Atonement vs. Penal 16:23 We're not David 17:36 Why the Train Conductor Analogy is incomplete 20:11 Incarnation / Carne Asada 21:23 Resurrection was not an afterthought 23:31 Ascension 24:56 Views of the Atonement 26:39 Reductionism 28:47 Theosis 30:11 Twenty Dimensions of Christ's Atoning Work 31:33 Jesus bore the Church's shame 32:42 Adopted into God's family by Christ's blood 34:22 Victory 37:05 Enlightenment blinds American Christians 38:45 Divine Simplicity in Atonement 40:11 The Atonement is deeply political 42:25 Too small a thing to redeem Israel 43:25 Unity in Christ is bigger than any difference 44:01 Union with Christ 45:27 Jesus Himself IS the Gift 46:37 Past, Present, Future

@lisaengel89 7 ай бұрын

Does he address WHO Christ died FOR?

@VivienneJu 8 ай бұрын

Where can I buy the book?

@benicio1967 7 ай бұрын

This was very interesting. I still wonder how Jesus gave us His righteousness. We are sinners. We can’t be perfect or holy in our humanness so that part has me confused.

@leenieledejo6849 7 ай бұрын

Man is carnal by nature. That's why he must be born again/born of the Spirit. Sin is a CHOICE. It starts to *feel* "natural" when it becomes engrained over years but God did not make us sinners. It's a wilful choice to sin and God sent His son to SAVE us from sin (Matthew 1:21) so we don't have to live in bondage to it. Jesus says in John 3 "you MUST be born again". He also says "born of the Spirit". He's talking about the 180 transformation which the Apostle Paul experienced and which all (genuine) Christians have experienced. Paul makes it clear that if someone has not been brought to spiritual life, indwelt by the Holy Spirit and completely transformed by the same power that raised Jesus from the dead then they are NOT SAVED. Salvation after all means saved from sin and Satan (Matthew 1:21, Acts 26:18 etc). The NAME Jesus means "rescuer", "loosener", "deliverer". In John 14:16-17, Jesus says the Holy Spirit will INDWELL believers. That's how regenerate believers are the only true Christians: John 1:12-13 and how we are able to bear the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT (Galatians 5:22-23). Nobody can bear the fruit of the Spirit if they have not been born of the Holy Spirit. So Jesus giving us his Spirit is a huge part of the Good News And it's unique to the New Covenant (Testament). In the Old Testament, God anointed certain people with the Spirit only for certain periods and certain tasks. That explains the Sermon on the Mount. That's why the "standard" is so much higher (eg looking at someone with lust is adultery). Because sin begins in the heart (as Jesus makes clear eg in Matthew 12 & 15) and through the cross and Resurrection, Jesus made it possible for anyone to be MADE NEW and completely transformed. So yes, as it says in Romans 6 & 1st John 3 thru 5 it certainly IS possible to live free from sin. It's not only possible, it's EXPECTED. Because when the HOLY Spirit of God lives inside, we become holy. We have been removed from the (spiritual) kingdom of darkness and now indwell the (spiritual) kingdom of light: Acts 26:18, Ephesians 2, Colossians 1:13 etc etc. ‭"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect" (Matthew 5:48) ‭"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (2 Corinthians 5:17)

@etoiledemer7472 8 ай бұрын

at-one-ment 😮😲😲 also 16:20 and 38:12 💡💡💡💪💪💪💪💪💪

@jamesburns4702 8 ай бұрын

Was Jesus crucified for my specific sins? Or was He crucified to reverse the rebellion of Adam?

@heartofalegend 7 ай бұрын

It seems that the totality of Scripture taken together would indicate that it's both. We have the Father speaking in very intimate terms of "knowing" us before we were born, we have Jesus speaking similarly of His sheep in John, and we have Paul talking about this same intimate foreknowledge of God in Romans, Ephesians, and elsewhere. Then we have the writer of Hebrews explaining that those for whom Christ died, He now lives to intercede as our "sympathetic High Priest." When you put all of this together, there is a picture of an intimate aspect of the atonement, as well as a reversal of the curse brought about by the Fall. It's hard to make the case that Jesus merely died for a "group." It seems much more personal than that.

@lisaengel89 7 ай бұрын

Does Dr. Treat believe Christ died for every single person in the whole world...or for only those the Father gave to him?

@kellyschroeder7437 8 ай бұрын

Bingo - shame - 💔😢 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@karenpaplia4958 8 ай бұрын

The kingdom is accomplished by Christ's second coming the Cross is the Victory over sin death illness Satan that is attornment

@PennySmart 8 ай бұрын

This person has an agenda: evangelicals have always praised Christ victory on the cross in countless hymns. Stuart Townend's The Power of the Cross: "It is finished, the victory cry". That old The Witness musical, etc.

@Yj-Fj 8 ай бұрын

It’s interesting. Physicists look at time and space and quantum realms as observer relative. Each sees a side of God’s marvelous creation on the macro to the micro level and each side sees a part of the whole. However, they never seem to see the center of it all as the Creator. That comes from faith, a knowing trust from a creature to their Creator. Similarly, when Jesus came to reveal the Father of Creation, and far more, we the church or the body of Christ sees His knowledge and wisdom and revelation as observer relative, but each side sees a side of the marvelous knowledge of God almighty like e.g. the Atonement and see much of it. The only thing to remember with each angle/ side/ portion of this once partial knowledge like the atonement, all must acknowledge that Jesus is central and fills all in all, who Himself points us to the glorious Father by the Holy Spirit, who reveals all truth to His beloved.

@GodDoesntGradeOnaCurve 8 ай бұрын

9:03 - What's been lost from modern churches, is that King Jesus is already reigning over His Kingdom. When heaven comes to earth, at Jesus Second Coming, that day He will hand the completed Kingdom to the Father, Christ will subject Himself to the Father forever, and the One God and Father will be all and in all in the eternal Kingdom. 1 Corinthians 15:21,24,28 KJV For since by man came death, *_by man came also the resurrection of the dead._* [24] *_Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father;_* when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. [28] *_And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all._*

@PennySmart 8 ай бұрын

I don't think we need to go to Church traditions who have questionable beliefs without mentioning rabid antisemitism, all we need to do is study the Bible in depth and the whole Bible, not just the 4 gospels.

@TarZan49 8 ай бұрын

33:35 Tell me you are Not a Calvinist without saying you are not a Calvinist. "God loves you as an individual but not in an individualistic way..."

@S.Carpenter 8 ай бұрын

The atonement has nothing at all to do with "politics" and "race". Good grief! 😑 The war was between us and God. When did Jeremy Treat become the pastor there?

@heartofalegend 7 ай бұрын

Yikes, that might be a bit harsh. I totally get why you're saying what you're saying and am completely with you in the sentiment of it. But I think the more accurate read on the pastor's words is that Jesus is King and therefore there is a political aspect to the victory achieved through the atonement. Christ rules, and all rulers are in subjection to Him. As for race, I only heard him say what the apostle Paul said, that Christ has broken down every wall between us and Him and us and each other. At the foot of the cross, there is no Jew or Gentile, only fellow believers in Christ. If anything, it seems the pastor was pointing out how Christ's atonement should put an end to any preoccupation in the church, when it comes to race or racial reconciliation or any of that. To that, I say, "Amen" because, like you, I'm sick of all this nonsense that we've been dealing with over the past several years.

@GirlPaintsArt 8 ай бұрын

What an amazing reminder!!!🤗🥰 I enjoyed this so much today! Well timed and well received!! It’s great to know that our security lies in what HE did for us!!!🩸♥️🩸♥️🩸♥️