How Narcissists Interpret Your Healing

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Surviving Narcissism

Surviving Narcissism

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Relationships with narcissists hurt, and at some point you can determine to make significant adjustments in order to heal. Dr. Les Carter reminds you that as that happens, not only will narcissists remain dysfunctional, they can ratchet up their efforts to sabotage your efforts. Can you remain true to your healing efforts despite their misinterpretations of you?
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@sandracaezza7234
@sandracaezza7234 11 ай бұрын
I found a quote to share with this community, “ I would like to be a whole happy human not a human full of holes.” Without the narc I have that opportunity.
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
THAT is a great quote to remember. Thank you 😊
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
That made me grin!
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 11 ай бұрын
Good "picture" 👌 And I agree with Dr Carter for I also had to grin and with Amanda that this quote is good to remember. Thanks for sharing 👏
@evezazzle5974
@evezazzle5974 11 ай бұрын
❤proud of you and thank you so much for sharing this golden nugget with us! Wishing you a kind and gentle recovery and life 🙏☀️💐🤗
@deborahcollins1100
@deborahcollins1100 11 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s really a very cool quote 🥰
@theforensicbadass
@theforensicbadass 11 ай бұрын
They hate you when you're weak and hurting, and they hate you when you're strong and healed. I say let them hate us all they want as we're strong and healed. Thanks Dr C!
@jpp2377
@jpp2377 10 ай бұрын
In other words they hate you because their heart is full of hate
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ 10 ай бұрын
@@jpp2377how dare you speak of my mother like that.
@jpp2377
@jpp2377 10 ай бұрын
@@TheJustinJ Touché
@colleenshea2293
@colleenshea2293 9 ай бұрын
At the core the narc is full of rage.
@alexpeterson9468
@alexpeterson9468 7 ай бұрын
lol spot on!@@TheJustinJ
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 11 ай бұрын
let me guess: as a personal attack tailored against them...
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You get it!
@fernandomoreno475
@fernandomoreno475 11 ай бұрын
As a personnal attack but not only, i think. They will feel that they are about to lose the battle they started with you, and you will be tossed away like an old sock.
@ND-or5so
@ND-or5so 11 ай бұрын
Yarblocosifilitico: Guaranteed!
@ND-or5so
@ND-or5so 11 ай бұрын
​@fernandomoreno475 I think, mainly it's a Personal Attack to them. A Covert Narcissist as he is can't deal with the fact he's done anything wrong to me. He can't take accountability for anything.
@fernandomoreno475
@fernandomoreno475 11 ай бұрын
@@ND-or5so he can't deal with it for sure, but he also perfectly know what game he's playing. And the first rule of any game is to be ready lose. They obviously choose opponents easy to discard at first glance, but as thé healing goes by, they can realize they made a mistake here. So here comes the part when it becomes important to toss you, and choose an other victim. They perfectly know it, so don't get fooled.
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u 11 ай бұрын
They won't see it as "healing". They see it as you having gone mad. My mother told me that she hopes I can grow in to the person I was meant to be. Well I'm trying. But the person she believes I should grow in to is somebody who has no visible reaction to being mocked, labelled, blamed, shamed and excluded. That is the only version of me that my family wants.
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
Hi Susana. Very well said. I completely understand and agree about you saying 'they see it as you having gone mad..' it's so heartbreakingly crazy!...as many of us spent a lot of time believing and feeling :we must be the crazy one'....until we grow and learn...then we know we aren't the crazy one👍🙏
@blydnhvghn
@blydnhvghn 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations! Sounds like you have outgrown your mother, keep going❤
@phoenixrising33
@phoenixrising33 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I get you.
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 11 ай бұрын
good news is: no contact (or, rather, minimal contact) will make you that person to them!
@carolnahigian9518
@carolnahigian9518 11 ай бұрын
I hear you!
@RatedArggg
@RatedArggg 11 ай бұрын
When I told my narc mom that my kidneys were healing, and I wouldn't need dialysis, she said "Hmmm." Her disappointment was palpable. They don't want you to heal. They want you to be little and weak so they can feel strong.
@janeteddddd
@janeteddddd 11 ай бұрын
So happy for you! That's amazing your kidneys are healing ..💓
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
You deserve to be proud of yourself. Walk out on those who don’t cherish you. I waited too long. 59 now and only recently gone no contact with the mother and siblings. Never managed to walk out on the father ( mean narc, surprise) who is recently deceased. All narcs of different kinds. Covert, malignant, Machiavellian, authoritarian, passive aggressive, manipulative. Take your pick. It’s all there. And I the empath have paid dearly with my physiology. Cancer twice, life threatening lung clots, Covid I hospital at the beginning (scary, but didn’t bother the narcs) and now long Covid inflammatory problems. You go and have a great life now!
@GodsChosenMekAmoR
@GodsChosenMekAmoR 11 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry.
@mr.makedonija2627
@mr.makedonija2627 11 ай бұрын
Wow. These people smh
@mr.makedonija2627
@mr.makedonija2627 11 ай бұрын
I'm so happy for you.
@secondhorizon
@secondhorizon 11 ай бұрын
Loss of Control = Threat (simple as that)
@shenisenicole103
@shenisenicole103 11 ай бұрын
Period .
@Rain9Quinn
@Rain9Quinn 10 ай бұрын
✔️
@Melly16yr10
@Melly16yr10 2 ай бұрын
Especially financially
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 11 ай бұрын
So, narcissist has something like the following mindset: I cannot improve myself, so I will try to control others and make them responsible for my well-being. If they do not cooperate, or they want to go their own way, I will sabotage them and make their life as miserable as I can, while accusing them of doing that to me.
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
I really like your comment....I think many will see their own situation in your words. I'd also had. (for I got told this for years)..."I only get angry and break things because of you...." All the best👍🙏
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You nailed it!
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 11 ай бұрын
@@SurvivingNarcissism So, narcissist does not seem to not have any objectivity or sense of justice or fairness at all?
@i.ehrenfest349
@i.ehrenfest349 Ай бұрын
@@tombuddy100in my view, after watching them for decades: they can’t see beyond their own feelings. It’s not really about being right or wrong, but about whether you can see the other person as someone in their own right, with their own feelings, experiences, needs. And they just can’t see that, they relate everything back to their own feelings. Some kind of developmental shortfall, perhaps. Tragic, also for themselves because I believe they truly cannot see the other’s point of view, they truly cannot feel what you feel. Since only their own feelings matter ‘fairness’ is simply defined by what makes them feel ok. There is no objective morality. “It is what I feel!” as my aunt used to scream after physically assaulting 15 year old me. And that made it ok. There were no other considerations.
@i.ehrenfest349
@i.ehrenfest349 Ай бұрын
@@sturobertson6791yeah, my aunt assaulted me physically several times a week, usually after a night out drinking. I lived with her at ages 15 through 18. She would completely lose it, keeping slapping my face for easily half an hour at a time. And she’d shout abuse and tell me she would have me locked up in a mental institution because according to her I was insane. “You bring this out in me!” she once yelled. I was shocked thinking I had caused that violence and craziness and spit-flying anger. I thought I must be a bad person, in addition to being insane, and though I wasn’t even religious I thought I would go to hell. I was afraid to mix with people and make friends because I realised I was a very, very bad person so I had no right to be among good people. Then she got a boyfriend and she assaulted him, too. I guess it wasn’t just me bringing this out? He took it, which I’ll never understand. I used to hear the sound of her hitting him carried by the water pipes to my part of the house (a back room looking out onto a wall). Good times!
@douaa1934
@douaa1934 11 ай бұрын
Its a personal threat to the narcissist after all their effort to keep stuck. Its like a betrayal to the narcissist and their trauma bond plan
@tbunnyshy1
@tbunnyshy1 11 ай бұрын
Literally 🎯🎯
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
Hi Douaa, and really well said👍
@cherobinson6371
@cherobinson6371 11 ай бұрын
I have a family of about 50 people who all acted like they didn’t know each other and all Gaslit me with exactly the same Dialogue. They spent 6 years trying to convince me that I’m worthless and that I should just roll over and play dead? I finally had someone ( A police Officer tell me- Hey by the way those neighbors who are acting like Dbags too U? And calling us with false stories about You etc? They are all related by blood they been doing this for decades too unsuspecting New people in town who aren’t like them. Narcissistic go too shocking lengths. I mean this Klan? Acted! Literally Staged things literally think it’s OK 2 Stalk and gon2 police with false reports…
@ChildoftheLIGHT
@ChildoftheLIGHT 11 ай бұрын
My narcissistic husband actually thinks that HE is trauma bonded. Talk about yet another twisted delusion. I told him he is dependent and in constant need of validation and suggested he get professional help.
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@angelamwatts
@angelamwatts 11 ай бұрын
Being in a relationship with a narcissist, is like being in a relationship with a dictator. One little infraction and then you have to put up with the tantrums, disrespect and other nasty things.
@sula1529
@sula1529 11 ай бұрын
Yes whether with a partner or a friend. Mind boggling.
@angelamwatts
@angelamwatts 11 ай бұрын
@@sula1529 Coworkers, relatives, etc.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
tell me about it. My father and sister both top executives in global companies, him overtly and brutally authoritarian, she covert machiavellian (snake!) and I should have let go of them decades ago. I am 59 and didn't get it earlier. the brother is an entitled, vile charming manipulator, grinning grifter, but also shouted me down when he was younger and called me the most vile things. Mother a bit more covertly a narc, says to me: "what did you do wrong to get cancer?". Gone no contact with all after my father passed last year
@danielkaiser8971
@danielkaiser8971 11 ай бұрын
Exactly correct. A narcissist's expectation of you are like an electric can opener. The moment is does not function as performed, the narcissist injects their rage into the object that is out of their dictatorial control.
@sula1529
@sula1529 11 ай бұрын
@@angelamwatts how do you deal with a friend that turned out to be a narc , cut you off via text with no explanation and is blackening your name because you werent available 24/7 ? Now your whole community thinks you are the bad person even though you did nothing wrong !!!
@bindibud23
@bindibud23 11 ай бұрын
12:07: "There's gonna be a certain price that you'll have to pay." This made me smile, because I remembered, thirty years ago, meeting with the divorce lawyer in Paris. I told her the story in ten minutes and she said (rough translation), "You have married an old boar, little one, and you will not escape without losing a few feathers." She may not have known all the narc vocab, but she sure knew the type.
@ilashankar9031
@ilashankar9031 11 ай бұрын
Your divorce lawyer's observation made me smile. 😊 ....and thanks for that 'silver lining'!!!❤
@jennw6809
@jennw6809 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love her metaphor. Congrats on getting out and finding her help!
@michiganlighthouse
@michiganlighthouse 9 ай бұрын
It's comforting to be reminded that true wisdom is universal. And timeless. Love her metaphor.
@jackilynpyzocha662
@jackilynpyzocha662 6 ай бұрын
Though I am not a lawyer, but considered it; I hope you've re-grown your feathers!🐦Bonne chance toujours!!
@bindibud23
@bindibud23 6 ай бұрын
Merci! Et bonne année!@@jackilynpyzocha662
@rwdchannel2901
@rwdchannel2901 11 ай бұрын
Most of my healing started after I went no contact with my narcissistic parents. I was limited contact with them until I was 35 years old. Now I'm 42 and it's unbelievable how much I healed. I'm a completely different person.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
Bless you. Well done wish I had done that when I was younger. I went no contact with narc mother brother and sister at 59 a few months ago. Father ( also a narc, surprise surprise) passed last year before I could tell him exactly what I thought of him and go no contact. Stupid me. Thanks for sharing your story. I have hope that I will also be better soon. I get an inkling at times but it has been soul crushing and heartbreaking to be the only empath in that family of origin. My husband is good and his family as well so I will be ok I know!
@nmc1859
@nmc1859 11 ай бұрын
Ikr. I was low contact before. It was still detrimental. Now no contact and i can feel myself finally beginning to heal 💖
@rwdchannel2901
@rwdchannel2901 11 ай бұрын
@@nmc1859 I thought low contact would be good for a long time too, but found out it kept me connected to people who wanted to see me fail in life. Weird and bad things happened to me when I was low contact with my narcissistic parents. Right after I went no contact it was akin to a black storm cloud that was over my head going away. All the sudden good things started happening in my life repeatedly. I even went back and fixed bad things that hurt my self image from 20 years ago. Narcissist parents love to hurt your self image. If you can go back and fix bad things that happened in your life it will help a lot.
@AuditingMass77
@AuditingMass77 11 ай бұрын
I know exactly what you're talking about hun!!🙏
@crystalshard5830
@crystalshard5830 11 ай бұрын
Glad you made it ❤💪🏻 If only I could make it work and catch up as well 😣
@sandrabellerue2836
@sandrabellerue2836 11 ай бұрын
You're in a constant case of fight or flight. No contact works but takes time. It's great to get back to your own identity.
@wheatORweed
@wheatORweed 8 ай бұрын
I am hoping for that.
@Lola-mt1ne
@Lola-mt1ne 11 ай бұрын
I ended a relationship with a narcissistic boyfriend 5 years ago. What I know is that he has no idea of the maladaptive behaviours that are an integral part of who he is. Walk away is the watch word.
@naturefleur2062
@naturefleur2062 11 ай бұрын
They get angry because all their “hard work” to break you down and make you compliant is getting undone. No wonder they get mad! To them, their abuse is necessary and helpful for how they survive and function. How dare someone disassemble what they worked so hard to create! Mental power over another human being takes time and effort to create and they hate seeing their efforts wasted and NOT get the reward that they were expecting and working toward (you, on a platter, giving endlessly so they can drain endlessly). You healing to them is you removing the opportunity they would have gotten through you…they’re like a spoiled child with their toy getting taken away. Now they have to start all over again with someone else and the real insult to injury is THEY weren’t the one in control of this process! THEY weren’t the one to discard you and be finished, what a wound to their ego twice! They have to be faced with the fact they aren’t as powerful as they like to think they are. And they’re lazy, now they have to find another way to extricate to meet their needs. Once this happens, they will always see you as the enemy (to them, you are) and seek to punish and sabotage you.
@schizorap
@schizorap 11 ай бұрын
The punishments in my situation are bizarre and constant and I am 45, really soul draining
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
described my sister and in fact all the other narcs in my family (both parents and both siblings) perfectly! The sister sadly believes that she had managed to groom me long enough, but then I claimed my rights when my narc father passed and the sister didn't like it. She ghosted me first she will say because I was unreasonable. I wrote her a few emails after that but she has gone silent. In her mind she dropped me, but I know better and I sure hope she notices that I am not there anymore to give her love and attention. I actually called her out in an email that I knew exactly what she had done over the decades and that I have seen right through her. Whether she read it or not, I don't really care, I needed that in order to feel like it was my choice.
@macunz111
@macunz111 11 ай бұрын
Holy buckets 😂 You are spot on! I love your insights about narcissists! A little comic relief on this nightmare journey 👏🤗✊️🎁
@kemifolabi3307
@kemifolabi3307 11 ай бұрын
😂❤❤ spot on!
@wayneelliott1180
@wayneelliott1180 11 ай бұрын
When you see what they are and walk away their destructive fury will follow.
@deborahcollins1100
@deborahcollins1100 11 ай бұрын
After listening to this today I realize that my abusive husband actually gives me a compliment when he states every now and then that I have changed so much and that I’m not anything like I used to be. Of course he doesn’t realize that statement unknowingly really encourages me 😊
@mthomas3547
@mthomas3547 11 ай бұрын
It's quite the eye-opener when you realize that the most important part of you is being healed and they see those moments of healing as a ploy against them.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
OMG, YES! the lack of empathy is disturbing! I had cancers, lung clots, pneumonia, pleurisy and ongoing asthma. Long covid after hospitalisation in the first, dangerous phase. And they don't give two hoots. both parents, both siblings narcs of various colouring. Father passed now, completely ignored me being breathless on a Christmas call after coming back from hospital and trying to push his agenda and make me feel guilty. The mother: " what did you do wrong to get cancer?" That was a few years ago, and I now know the exact answer I should have given her: " I hung around for far too long with you all". am 59 now and proud to have gone no contact with all of them more recently. Sadly never got to tell the father what I thought of him, but the others didn't like me calling them out. Finally, I am free. Going through my own hell, but free!!
@usernameisunavailable8270
@usernameisunavailable8270 10 ай бұрын
Or when you try to work on healing and your mental health and the person will purposely try to annoy you, trigger you, or bait you to get an emotional response so they know they still have you under their control and grasp.
@portiamaema8157
@portiamaema8157 11 ай бұрын
It's about them again. You are doing this to hurt them. You've gone no contact to hurt them. You're doing self development to hurt them. You're with that new guy/girl to hurt them. That last social media post you wrote was about them. Them, them & them. That is how a narcissist interprets your healing!!!😫😭
@tbunnyshy1
@tbunnyshy1 11 ай бұрын
This right here 👆 sums it all up very well! 🎯🎯🎯 Its like they are saying, “How dare you not be a good, unstable, vulnerable and needy supply anymore!” Ugh 🙉
@Picca65
@Picca65 11 ай бұрын
This is spot on!!
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your post. Such a complete description of how they behave in one paragraph. I second tbunnyshy"s comments too. Brilliant... what you both have said is like super growth food for all of us healthy people👍👍🙏🙏
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
OMG another great contributor who appears to have lived my story. Thank you for this! It is incredible how you speak as if you know me and doubtless most of the other poor people on this channel who have been targeted in that way. In my case for decades by all of my narc family. both parents, both siblings. Insidious. the sister only blew her cover (covert narc, Machiavellian kind, groomed me to believe she was the only one on my side against the other narcs!!), because she lost her control after the passing of the father. They all think that I am the problem because I am the only one in the family who had therapy for the past decades on and off and I work on myself constantly. they didn't 'need' any of that. In fact the mother is scathing against psychologists/counsellors (she is perfect you see) and the brother once said he wrapped one around his little finger when she tried to help him.
@usernameisunavailable8270
@usernameisunavailable8270 10 ай бұрын
You can say that again! Facts💯🙌
@rahrahrobbbieee
@rahrahrobbbieee 11 ай бұрын
Let us all be thankful for the likes of Dr. C.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You are kind.
@patricksicard_psych
@patricksicard_psych 11 ай бұрын
After 7 years of living with this twisted and evil person I closed the door. It will be a year on 27 July. The way to outsmart the narcissist is to discard them and maintain no contact. Validate yourself and become whole again.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Yep!
@wandafrazier5206
@wandafrazier5206 11 ай бұрын
Yep. I have fewer and fewer bad dreams.
@elenaruiz73
@elenaruiz73 10 ай бұрын
Amen to that. May I have the courage to do just as mentioned
@camillet9883
@camillet9883 11 ай бұрын
I told my mom I was in therapy. She replied “Are you saying I’m a bad mother?” 🙄 I was 50 yrs old at the time.
@susansheldon2707
@susansheldon2707 11 ай бұрын
It's always only about them. Only them.
@schizorap
@schizorap 11 ай бұрын
Of course she had the need to make it about her 😂
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
mine thinks psychologist are nonsense and told me once: " what did you do wrong to get cancer?" really sensitive and warm and fuzzy thing to say for a mother, isn't it? tells you what my childhood was like. I should have there and then answered" I hung around you all for too long that's why I am constantly ill. Brother, sister and father also narcs by the way. Great stuff. I have gone no contact with them all now after the passing of the authoritarian father created chaos
@wayneelliott1180
@wayneelliott1180 11 ай бұрын
Mine scoffed, denied, projected, deflected, belittled - then screamed that I must be mentally ill if I'm seeking therapy. The attention-seeking harpy then lamented that the doc and I would be talking about her (outside of her control, of course!)
@deemaysie6568
@deemaysie6568 10 ай бұрын
@@marian9410 Hope you managed to kick cancer's butt!. If it's any consolation, I am laughing my head off because those are the exact words my mother would say. Any medical affliction was IMMEDIATELY your fault entirely. "See, I told you eating tofu will give you cancer."
@douaa1934
@douaa1934 11 ай бұрын
Your healing is your LIGHT and your POWER is is enlightening 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@blaseapricot
@blaseapricot 11 ай бұрын
The covert narcissist I abandoned 8 years ago (yes, 8!) has recently hoovered me with 'love quotes'. One of them was: 'Loyalty is the most attractive thing.' I've healed a long time ago but I still observe, I simply do not absorb. This is what it's all about, 'how dare you move on', just like stated in the video. It's crazy that you could be simply living your life and in narcissists deranged mind they still think they have some kind of 'power' over you. Truth is, they never had any real power over you to begin with but it takes a long time to figure that out, explain it to yourself and eventually, accept it. So please know that these are not healthy people and if you have detached, you have nothing to do with them anymore, seriously. You owe them nothing 🙅‍♀
@InvisibleWarrior279
@InvisibleWarrior279 11 ай бұрын
Downright bizarre, isn’t it? My narcissist ex contacted me by e-mail after 20 years during the pandemic, more or less demanding to talk to me. Needless to say I declined. I am not the young, naive cheerleader anymore. Even by e-mail he ALL CAPS yelled at me when I said no, I didn’t want to talk to him. The good news is it made me realize how much I have grown since then 😊
@blaseapricot
@blaseapricot 11 ай бұрын
@@InvisibleWarrior279 sadly not bizarre for a narcissist, as 'the passage of time' means absolutely nothing to them... throughout their whole life they either remain the same or get worse, but their biggest mistake is that they think the same for you - that you will be the same as well, forever! Joke's on them. You did good and I am so proud of you. That's called growth! 👏❤
@ravenel2
@ravenel2 11 ай бұрын
Ah, these Hoovers where they talk at you. As if their point of view is the only one that exists and you have to go over to that side. Think up a parallel assertion in your mind that represents YOUR point of view. Like, “No one should listen to narcissists when they come up with this crap.”
@blaseapricot
@blaseapricot 11 ай бұрын
@@ravenel2 right? except they don't even come up with this crap, they just copy paste random quotes online 🧐😂so glad I am able to laugh about it and just continue with my day.
@InvisibleWarrior279
@InvisibleWarrior279 11 ай бұрын
@@ravenel2 “talk at you” wow. Yes that is exactly what they do!! It is like a monologue of nothingness directed at some kind of emotional reaction. They just want validation for their insanity, I suppose.
@whistlinfreedom
@whistlinfreedom 11 ай бұрын
From my experience... not well. Not being a doormat makes you a moving target instead.
@Lemana28021989
@Lemana28021989 11 ай бұрын
As a threat. They cannot control you anymore.
@tbunnyshy1
@tbunnyshy1 11 ай бұрын
Precisely 🎯
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
It's like they are addicted to controlling a person and when they cannot anymore they have withdrawal symptoms and are all outta sorts. That's how they appear to me anyway.
@denisem4575
@denisem4575 11 ай бұрын
If they spent the time appreciating you and trying to make you happy/love you as they’ve spent time trying to control you imagine what a beautiful life you would’ve had😔
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
@@denisem4575 INDEED!!!
@Lemana28021989
@Lemana28021989 11 ай бұрын
​@@denisem4575and they themselves. But they can't. They are not able to. Sad little creatures
@lynnbrown4364
@lynnbrown4364 11 ай бұрын
"You add to the quality of your life by subtraction." Resonates deeply. Almost 2 years no contact with my narc sister and her flying monkeys which include her children that I tried to protect. Now I protect myself. Dr C, thank you for guiding me to a healthier, reality based mindset. Not fully there, but I feel an "end" in sight. Don't know what that looks like, but I'll know when I get there.
@EC-yd9yv
@EC-yd9yv 11 ай бұрын
🌺🙏🕊️
@cannibale101
@cannibale101 11 ай бұрын
Oof, I just want to share that i also had to cut contact with my sister and that implied her children who have never asked for anything and certainly don't deserve what they were born into. It's so hard, such a tough move to make. Everyday I doubt myself. Hence why i thought it might make us both a tiny little stronger if we know we're not alone in this. Wish you the best.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
Good for you!! I have a covert Machiavellian narc sister who learned from the narc father and brother not to be overt narcs. The men had shouting matches and she figured she would play the long control. I tried to stand up for the mother who also is a covert narc and is like the father ( now dead) financially abused by the brother ( a lawyer for inheritance!) out of hundreds of thousands over the decades. He and the sister are trying to walk all over me. The worst thing is when you, as you tried with the children of your sister, do the right thing and stand up for someone ( I must have tried that hundreds of times in that family for one or the other and actually saved the fathers life once) but they have stabbed me in the back over and over. I paid with my physiology. Cancer twice, lung clots, chronic asthma, long Covid and these supposed human beings were still trying to stamp on me. My husband and his family are lovely. A normal bunch of people and without all of them I would never have managed to go no contact with my family of origin. 4 months now. I am 59. Everyone get out before you regret it!!!
@OICUR12
@OICUR12 11 ай бұрын
"her flying monkeys" HA-larious!
@lynnbrown4364
@lynnbrown4364 11 ай бұрын
@cannibale101 Thank you and you too!That's why I appreciate this platform...people who have not experienced narcissistic abuse have no clue how insidiously damaging it is. Wishing us more Power!!!
@phoenixrising33
@phoenixrising33 11 ай бұрын
I've stayed away from my family of origin for the past year and 9 months... I gotta say, what a relief it's been! I'm on a journey of healing and I'm very pleased I'm free to be me. God is walking with me on my journey. I deserve to heal everywhere I hurt. Thank you for your message of reassurance and validation. Give Gus a hug. ❤
@tbunnyshy1
@tbunnyshy1 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I hope to accomplish all you have…one day! ❤️
@josiah5776
@josiah5776 11 ай бұрын
Same here! Already at the 5-year mark. It just gets better and better. Not only am I free of them, I'm also free of fly-bys from their flying monkeys.
@beentherebefore050
@beentherebefore050 11 ай бұрын
Took me decades to finally separate from toxic family, including my own son who is a flying monkey; it's difficult and the pain was unbearable at times, but we can endure with God's help and reach such peace of mind that we never had with them
@josiah5776
@josiah5776 11 ай бұрын
@@beentherebefore050 I can relate. My son is also a flying monkey. He went so far as to try to do the narcissist's dirty work with false legal charges against me. It didn't work, but I won't have him in my life anymore. I won't trust someone who betrays like that, even my own blood.
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u 11 ай бұрын
I wish I could embrace having been excluded even though now, I'm not trying to initiate any communication. I feel so disappointed. I dont really feel relief. Although I am less upset and less angry. I'll come to terms with it eventually
@palalechat
@palalechat 11 ай бұрын
Radical acceptance, calm confidence. I need this right now, thank you!!
@elainesmith5313
@elainesmith5313 11 ай бұрын
Have discovered in the last 3 months that laughter is truly healing.Reunited with my youngest sister after 10 yrs. We have found so much to laugh about over the fact we both were married to a narcissist. We both went NO CONTACT with the Narcissist families we married into. What was not funny at the time rings funny now. We are both healing and moving forward with life. God has been good to us both and we both have ALOT of gratitude . Leaving the Narc's behind! Thanks Dr. C. Your wisdom is worth Gold!! Envy Guss's nap taking!!
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
I agree, I look back and see things that happened very comical. Like their very childish antics and behaviors trying to manipulate me and others and ESPECIALLY when they get the bad end of the stick turned on to them. I even laugh at myself how I stupidly just walked right in to the fire and didn't expect to be burned!!! And even now, when I see these narcissist still trying to use their same old bag of tricks, I kinda giggle inside and say to myself ICU and I ain't falling for it this time. I would rather laugh than hate, either them or myself. Laughing is not to belittle another's pain nor experience but rather a "been there done that" response. I have learned much having walked through this and allow myself some grace and acceptance for both mistakes and failures. I no longer HAVE to be perfect, I just want to do the best I can with what I have and keep learning and this channel is helpful.
@snowbear1877
@snowbear1877 11 ай бұрын
I seem to attract narcissists wherever I go. People maltreat me because I have low self-esteem. I am not even aware of it. They puck it up from my body language. I've had many toxic friends and tolerated too much. I am probably toxic myself.
@namedeleted5945
@namedeleted5945 11 ай бұрын
I got married moved away learned how to stick up for myself was told i was ruined. it's been decades now, i just learned about the smear campaign and why people i thought were good people turned their backs on me. Narcissists are the best at destroying their target.
@jamesrutter4100
@jamesrutter4100 8 ай бұрын
They were not good people. And they were "fair weather" friends. Do not miss them, they were snakes in the grass all along, and the narc shone a light on them for you too see who they really are
@mikegump3766
@mikegump3766 11 ай бұрын
"Being attached to a narcissist hurts & takes you away from who you can be." Yes, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us...❤
@bluidwon
@bluidwon 11 ай бұрын
I was told “You ‘self-helped’ yourself right out of something great, this is ridiculous…” there was more before and after but that was it, I was 100% done.
@twowolves888
@twowolves888 11 ай бұрын
Remember, a calamity and a misfortune can be great too
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
That's the point of this whole video!!
@100th_monkey
@100th_monkey 11 ай бұрын
Yup, I got "all I ever wanted was for you to need me, AND YOU TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME". Byeeeee.
@catherinepraus8635
@catherinepraus8635 11 ай бұрын
Huh never heard that one before what they come up with is crazy making 😵‍💫
@catherinepraus8635
@catherinepraus8635 11 ай бұрын
Aren’t they always in the victim mode” you made me abuse you “ how dare you 🙄
@Cristina-RoxanaCristinaR-mj4gm
@Cristina-RoxanaCristinaR-mj4gm 11 ай бұрын
After 43 years - me beeing now 53 yo - i am free from my mother's power.She "is done with me because i am soooo disrespectful " to her.And i am happy that i found this chanell and a wonderful comunity who helped me getting through all the nightmare my whole life was untill three month ago.Thank all of you from south-eastern Europe.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
hello there! I am 59 and only recently managed to go no contact with the narc mother (covert, dismissive, insensitive," what did you do wrong to get cancer?" she told me), narc brother (malignant entitled, charming BS grifter, fleeced my parents financially) and narc sister (machiavellian, covert, only recently noticed her playing me for decades!),. All of that blew up after the narc father (entitled, top executive, authoritarian, self absorbed) passed away last year. Of course everyone thinks they have ghosted me because I am sooo disrespectful (same as your case, surprise, surprise) but they don't know that I have decided that I am glad I got rid of them all!! It was hell I am not going to lie but I am coming out the other end, seeing the light.
@Cristina-RoxanaCristinaR-mj4gm
@Cristina-RoxanaCristinaR-mj4gm 11 ай бұрын
@marian9410 Bravo for cutting them off.
@karendovey3538
@karendovey3538 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to thank YOU, Dr. C, for helping us with our healing journeys 🙏. I've been watching your videos for a few years now and, for the first time in my life, at nearly 53, I'm actually becoming assertive & not silently tolerating bad behaviour. I'm so thankful for you & all you do ☺️❤️
@josiah5776
@josiah5776 11 ай бұрын
100% accurate! I've discovered, through several narcs, that the punishment is lessened by cutting them out of your life completely. With this last one, I never introduced him to my circle of friends, so he slandered away to a bunch of flying monkeys who I didn't want in my life anyway.
@macunz111
@macunz111 11 ай бұрын
Good one😅
@wendyelliott6828
@wendyelliott6828 11 ай бұрын
I was in charge of damage control. I left. He couldn’t control all of the damage he wreaked. He collapsed. He loved watching me spin in reaction to all of the crazy he created. But he also lost his ability to stay in control of his own life.
@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively
@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively 11 ай бұрын
So true. He was very punishing. No more. I feel freedom even facing all that happened. Healing daily.
@Hatbox948
@Hatbox948 11 ай бұрын
I think they view our healing as a threat. I'm embroiled in trying to extract myself from my current situation. Now I'm getting comments like "he's not needed" and "all I want is for him to commit suicide", blah, blah. I was doing okay, but have gotten a little depressed and stressed from this. Plus, every time I walk by he'll say "I've got a question for you". Trying to converse in response to that statement is an exercise in futility. I'm thankful I can vent here, and thankful for Dr. Carter's tips on how to deal with these difficult people.
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 11 ай бұрын
Uhoh! The threats of suicide are text book emotional blackmail! Answer calm and direct that you would hope nobody would ever do that but you can not and will not be responsible for anyone else's actions but ur own. Like, ur not jumping in front of a bus to stop anyone else from doing it!
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
​@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFSWell said 👍
@nicolemctavish9089
@nicolemctavish9089 11 ай бұрын
You are a treasure, Dr. Carter. Thank you so much for your insight and compassion.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You are very welcome
@upclosesneakers6875
@upclosesneakers6875 11 ай бұрын
Yup, mine scoffed when I was talking to her about self development.. that alone shows how little they respect you
@MichaiGatlen
@MichaiGatlen 11 ай бұрын
They interpret healing as rejection, a personal attack, and proof of your insanity
@janicefalls8950
@janicefalls8950 11 ай бұрын
It's all happening to me because I'm trying to heal while divorcing him and trying to keep a roof over my head. He says all those horrible things While he spends thousands on his new supply and moved her into our house.
@scrapeteel1999
@scrapeteel1999 11 ай бұрын
🤢🤮You'll be better off.Keep your head up.
@SurvivorC
@SurvivorC 11 ай бұрын
Healing takes time. When I filed for divorce it was the worst day of my life. (Now I see it as one of the best!) But it was a long hard road & he lied & came after me financially etc., I was desperately trying to hold on to my home etc., but now that it's been several years I can say it's so much better. I gave up my home & lived in an apartment for a while & honestly was so healing. I would encourage you to: 1) build support around yourself. Therapist, church synagogue, friends if you don't have that try Alanon or get in touch with abuse support. 2) see #1 😉 3) make sure you have a lawyer who understands the situation & will fight for you. (I had to get a new lawyer) 4) Breathe ❤️‍🩹
@JR-ej9up
@JR-ej9up 11 ай бұрын
I'd say Threats. Narcissist view everything productive as threats. Because the world revolves around them. Forcefully so. I myself have narcissist parents. Older sisters. And an older brother in law. I probably am a bit of a narcissist myself. Overcoming these issues has been a focus and a challenge to Not become so overly focused on these issues. As narcissist want to be the bane of your existence. They want you to feel like crap. Have pain and hurt. And definitely sadness on account of them. They want to control others thru their words and emotions. And it's all for them to feel love. Crazy to think that someone with mental health issues such as a narcissist or sociopath wants to hurt you so that they can feel connection. But that's what they offer. Lies are normal and regular behavior. Truth is exposure, and they never ever want to be exposed. Will say anything to keep the momentum coming their way in the form of, All thoughts are about them. Gaslighting is normal behavior as well. Alignment is far from regular behavior, as they trash everyone behind their backs. And to their faces very abruptly. I have been laughed in my face by these people who hurt me, Because they feel laughing is an upperhanded maneuver, rather than listening to their faults and responsibility. All of this is hard. But to take a step back, My family is no different than lots of families and friends out their. Mine, others. It's just the way of the world. Looking for the good people is hard for me these days. But I don't give up. Maybe even my own family will learn to chill out. But those come in moments. And they are fleeting. Feeling trapped with these people can make me feel angry, but again, who cares what they feel or think. Most Narcissist want slaves. People they own control bully push around and question why you think for yourself. Sometimes physically trapping you to control you thru fear. Sad sad people. Dangerous people. And life is way important thah wasting ones time trying to interact with them. I just Don't. They cry and talk. But they so that with each other anyway. And whatever image they project I don't pay attention either. If everything a narcissist brings to the tabke is bashing people, and i get bashed for being me and being a value and a good person. Then I already know I'm on the right track. I don't need some jerk giving me any affirmation.
@secondhorizon
@secondhorizon 11 ай бұрын
They only *perceive* (not "interpret" ~ a word which implies discernment) your healing/recovery/personal growth as an act/performance/pretense demonstrating or perhaps revealing your cloaked (secretive) intentions of harming them. So essentially ~ as a Threat ~ (agreed).
@notmymonkeynotmycircus
@notmymonkeynotmycircus 11 ай бұрын
You're so right. I'm going thru it this second. It's awful and I've had enough. I just am in the worst possible position for getting out. I am losing my mind here. There are a gang of them . I don't understand
@cherobinson6371
@cherobinson6371 11 ай бұрын
They hate seeing others progress or grow spiritually. They have no inner connection sontheybLoath people who are able 2 Grow as they age. They actually get more Demonic with age. Most End up Dementia.
@kennethlapointesongwriter3330
@kennethlapointesongwriter3330 11 ай бұрын
Imo 'calm confidence' is everything. Who can shake you, upset you, rattle you, confuse you, hurt you, etc. if you are knowing and secure and calm at your core? Know what you know, know if/when you don't know something (and find out about it). There's only 8 billion other people walking around...you can forego a narcissist!
@maryellenyork2819
@maryellenyork2819 11 ай бұрын
Healing is slow because narcissists attack your spirit.
@schizorap
@schizorap 11 ай бұрын
Energy Vampires
@mattlehnardt783
@mattlehnardt783 11 ай бұрын
holy cow! Dr. Carter so nails it with how this insanity works and what it feels like, when nobody in normal world would even begin to get what this is about.
@c.mareeharris4615
@c.mareeharris4615 11 ай бұрын
'YES!...working on this [being a person of peace] for the rest of my life' - Thank You! Dr. C
@EC-yd9yv
@EC-yd9yv 11 ай бұрын
Congrats... I too am on that journey, best to you. 🌺🕊️
@sula1529
@sula1529 11 ай бұрын
Yes that's really nice and I want that too 😊
@Nursegurl82
@Nursegurl82 11 ай бұрын
THE NARC EX DID EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT. It’s scary how accurate you are. He even used several of the exact words and phases you mentioned. Calling me things like “loser”, saying I went “against him”, and that “everyone knows I’m a liar”. They are pathetic and will try their absolute best to tear you completely down if you allow them to.
@NehaSharma-wq9yc
@NehaSharma-wq9yc 10 ай бұрын
Woww
@christinad6650
@christinad6650 10 ай бұрын
Yes!!! My ex Narc has said the same things to me! It’s scary, I now see he used triangulation with me and his mom when we first started dating, by calling HER the narc, and now I see him doing the same thing with his new supply by triangulating with her and I. If that makes any sense lol. And I see he’s done this from the start, but I had no clue. And now I am seeing why his relationships before me never worked
@austinsalt7705
@austinsalt7705 11 ай бұрын
What's shocking is her sheer stamina with all of these attacks, she just doesn't get tired of being a bully. The poison keeps coming and coming and coming... There's no change in behavior whatsoever. (we are going through a divorce). Even as she started working on husband #2 I thought there would be a let up, but no, there hasn't been. But I'm soooooo extraordinary thankful to be separated. What I'm going through now is nothing compared to the slavery and mental torture I went through while married. Thank you for your video's!!! They've been a BIG help.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
its relentless. narcs spend all day every day working on how to best manipulate, subvert, dismiss, ignore, pull down others whilst staying on top. They are addicts, relentless in pursuit of their next fix and don't care who the next one comes from. I am currently going through no contact for the past months with narc mother, narc sister, narc brother after the passing of the narc father. I am 59 and it took me decades to get to this point. That is how much I loved my family of origin. And they just kept going and going. My mother: ' what did you do wrong to get cancer?" I wasn't fast enough but should have said: "hung around all of you for far too long"
@WisconsinWanderer
@WisconsinWanderer 11 ай бұрын
The ex-narc viewed my healing as some kinda weakness! So glad I purged that individual from my healing and growing life!😊
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
oh yes. My narc mother thinks psychologists are nonsense and the narc brother once after threatening suicide has said afterwards that he wrapped the psychologist who tried to help him around his little finger. Both father and sister also narcs by the way. Gone no contact with all of them now, after the authoritarian narc father passed away and the covert machiavellian sister tried to take 'over' the position of the boss. DIdn't like that I called her out and told her I knew who she was!!
@vickiwells7290
@vickiwells7290 11 ай бұрын
Well they get one thing right ... I am rejecting their way of processing life. So be it....Thank you once again Dr. Carter.🤗
@spacegirl226
@spacegirl226 11 ай бұрын
Imprisoned by their own dysfunction is absolutely true. I've found as I've tried to heal from a lifetime of abuse, no one in my family (the abusers) has been on my side or even given me a high five that I'm TRYING to do better. All they do is sling mud and insults about how I've "changed" because I don't play these stupid games anymore. No one has listened to me when I've asked them to understand how I ended up the way I did; they take no responsibility for their roles. I have to be sympathetic to them because their lives were hard, but they show me none of that respect in return. It's madness. I can tell that I have changed and I am healing just by how hard they're coming at me when I set a boundary, stick up for myself, or say no. So that's fine, that's fine. I can't go no contact now, but as soon as I can, it's over. I don't need this in my life anymore, nor do I want it. Thank you, Dr. C.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
totally totally same story here. both siblings, both parents narcs in various shades. Small family, they were coming after my kids as well. I went no contact with them a few months ago last year after the passing of the super-narc authoritarian father, but now my daughter has turned 18 and the malignant slime ball brother has sent his stepson out to congratulate her when he has never done that before. the narc mother hasn't said a word on my birthday or that of my daughter, her grandchild. But the brother is fishing around to influence my daughter, now that she is of age and can make her own decisions. Snakes all of them
@aaronkwolfe
@aaronkwolfe 11 ай бұрын
“You’ve changed.” “You are not the man I married.” The first statement allowed her to assign all the blame in relationship difficulties on to me. The second allowed her to justify whatever she wanted, because she didn’t agree to be married to what I’d “become,” so any (meaning hers) marital vows were nullified.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You've been through the wringer, Aaron. Keep up the forward leaning efforts!!!
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
I had. " You're not the girl I married " because I disagreed. You see, he didn't want to argue with me, but if I disagreed with him, then I was the one causing an argument 😱
@Rachel-mz8ko
@Rachel-mz8ko 11 ай бұрын
@@amandaliverpool3374 Wow.
@aaronkwolfe
@aaronkwolfe 11 ай бұрын
@@mapleleaf1185 Dr. C knows enough of my story (as well as the character I've demonstrated here, among the Team Healthy he has created) to "take sides." He knows that accusations are typically confessions for a narcissist.
@aaronkwolfe
@aaronkwolfe 11 ай бұрын
My changes were 1) an attempt (in vain) to return to the fun-loving, carefree guy I was when we met. She did not like the somber “noticer” of her attempts to get me to react. Nor did she like that I was no longer trying to soothe her every hurt (because I began to notice that her hurts were becoming more and more fanciful and unrealistic). She also knew me well enough that I would never point out the changes in her that I had also noticed.
@michelekurlan2580
@michelekurlan2580 11 ай бұрын
"adding to one's life by subtraction" very good mantra when it comes to pruning the "dead wood."
@patrickwalsh2361
@patrickwalsh2361 11 ай бұрын
My goal is to find the inner peace that Gus has! Your videos are helping me to slowly close in. Thanks much!
@suzannahardman207
@suzannahardman207 11 ай бұрын
😅
@suzannahardman207
@suzannahardman207 11 ай бұрын
I think you´re on to something there!
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Be zen like Gus!
@100th_monkey
@100th_monkey 11 ай бұрын
When the now ex/friend realised all the work I'd done on healing worked and I was doing great these days, he started describing in detail all the ways I was wrong headed and really quite fragile (nope), every time we spoke. When I called him on it, he actually said (out loud!) "all I ever wanted was for you to need me and you took that away from me." He's no longer in my life. If you're willing to try to undermine me just so I'll collapse into needing you, there's the door, don't come back.
@lillianbarker4292
@lillianbarker4292 11 ай бұрын
As soon as I got wise to my narcissistic mom and started healing, all her tactics and anger just seemed like proof that I was on the right path. She couldn’t hurt me anymore. I did feel sad to have to accept the full truth that she never loved me and never would. After her rage, like any bully she just went her own way.
@karenabrams8986
@karenabrams8986 11 ай бұрын
They view it as you becoming a bad heartless person when they can’t blow you up using emotions and sensitive information exploitation. Realizing that no one with narcisism is an arbiter of who is good or bad is very liberating.
@jannawalters232
@jannawalters232 11 ай бұрын
I've not been a victim of Narcissism, but know people who have that are close to me. I see Narcs as weak, small bugs!
@HereForToday42
@HereForToday42 11 ай бұрын
yes being attached to a narcissist does hurt! But they are incapable of empathy so they will never see this. So, when you detach and go to heal yourself, they will not get it. They will just continue abusing you in their mind. But luckily you won't even care.
@rosieE121
@rosieE121 11 ай бұрын
Forcing others you love to go along with their narrative against you.
@rosieE121
@rosieE121 11 ай бұрын
The narcissist forces others to go along with narrative against you.
@jenn_jean_kent_artist
@jenn_jean_kent_artist 11 ай бұрын
Yes. I’m seeking healing and not everyone like it, for sure.
@thebigh9635
@thebigh9635 11 ай бұрын
Narcissists will ALWAYS see you and your life as a bit of a joke , so your healing will just be ridiculed too ! Every time a narcissist laughs WITH you , they are really laughing AT YOU !! It's always about making themselves feel better ,..better than EVERYONE else ! More great content once again , and always appreciated ! Big appreciation from all your enlightened UK followers from across the Pond ! 🙏👍❤️
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 11 ай бұрын
He told me that nobody ever loved me as much as he did & I replied that it never felt like ❤ just hurt 🤦‍♀️ he’s truly clueless about love…
@stretch34318
@stretch34318 11 ай бұрын
"no one can take initiative for me except me" wow, step mom used to always offer up my services to their friends and family without my knowledge or consent and when she'd ask me to do it, she would ask me to do it for her. As if I would only be willing do a favor for her friend on her behalf. So controlling and entitled, so boundary violating and abusive. I went along with it for a long time as a kid but as I got older it would enfuriate me. I'm willing to help anyone in need, I don't have to do it on her behalf. Such rubbbish. Egomaniac, she wanted to take credit for it all.
@deemaysie6568
@deemaysie6568 10 ай бұрын
My mother-in-law (joyfully now deceased) used to do this to my husband ALL THE TIME. She would offer out his services to fix her neighbour's geyser, pick up strangers from train stations in dangerous and dodgy areas etc. etc., so she could bask in the gratitude of what a wonderful person she was!!
@MP-fk9em
@MP-fk9em 11 ай бұрын
My sister and I were raised on a small ranch in the middle of the woods. My dad was a firefighter and was as gone a lot of the time. My mother is a full-blown narcissist. I was always the black sheep and my sister was the Golden child. A few years ago my sister and I stopped talking for a year-and-a-half. It was a time in my life when I grew more than ever as I only was dealing with one narcissist instead of two. She came back into my life because our mother is suffering from dementia and my sister wants her piece of the pie. They are so alike.... it's creepy!! My mother flat out told me that she thinks I am a piece of shit. I have had lots of success in my life and have a deep happiness within me because of all of the healing that I have done. My mother is filled with so much hate because of the light that I have from inside. I see her as a very vicious, vindictive hateful old woman who will go out of this world exactly the way that she lives her life. I can't even imagine what it would feel like to be full of such hatred for people. I can assure you that both my narcissistic mother and sister can not stand that I am no longer nor will I ever be again their whipping post.
@Cat-oj4oz
@Cat-oj4oz 11 ай бұрын
One phrase you said really (finally) helped me... you will be on this healing path "for the rest of your life"... I've been impatient with myself on this path and your phrase gave me permission to keep on going forward no matter how slow and daunting the journey. This helps when I slip into the mindset to "get over it already". I moved away 20 years ago (and haven't seen her since) and this July marks a year since I've spoken to her. I'm still writing "gray rock" letters since my brothers live with her, but even that is slowing to a crawl. I'm tired, Dr. C., but your words gave me the push I needed. Thank you...
@user-uv1vx9xi4d
@user-uv1vx9xi4d 11 ай бұрын
I am 74 years old starting all over again divorce last year didn't give myself time to heal got into another toxic relationship with a narcissist now I have to move on I am learning how to love myself with Jesus Christ in my life I am healing from physical and mental abuse never think you are to old or to young to move I don't want anyone to go through the hell I allowed my self to go through sign Cynthia Smith Jesus Christ is the only one that heal the person going through abuse and he is the only one that can help the abuser sign Cynthia Smith
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
I can't even bring myself to grey rock anymore. I am done with them all after the passing of my narc father. Both narc siblings and narc mother are just...well vile narcs. The mother: " what did you do wrong to get cancer?", the sister groomed me in a covert machiavellian way pretending she cared and was on my side against the other narcs (she was not as I only recently found out) and the brother is a malignant, grinning, self-absorbed grifter lawyer who hasn't had to work because his parents have paid him everything to the tune of hundreds of thousands (cars, rent, mobile phones for himself and his family. Lives for free in my parents house for the past 15 years as they had to rent their accommodation and care home).Sickening. Still everyone thinks it's me the problem?!? I had therapy for decades. 59 now and a few months now no contact. Long shall it last!
@lillianbarker4292
@lillianbarker4292 11 ай бұрын
I’ve spent my entire life dealing with and healing from a narcissistic mother. She lived to be 99! All I can say is be proud of yourself and live fully and joyfully.
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
I think that they interpret your healing as independence from them. Then they lose their supply!!!
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Spot on, Amanda.
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Well said, and they try every tactic they can to get you to become the supply again....if you stay strong, and stay on the healing path, they will eventually look elsewhere for someone else to be their supply 🙏👍
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
@@sturobertson6791 Agreed 👍
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the more independent you get, the more they feel seperation, which turns to less supply out of you, because they loose control, which leads them to punish you and when they think you are useless, you will get their discard like a final punishment of invalidation. Sending you lots of light from the statue of liberty 🗽❣
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 11 ай бұрын
​@@sturobertson6791They will always look elsewhere because they need lots of options and you will never be the one and only supply! 😉
@abundantcreative3307
@abundantcreative3307 11 ай бұрын
I started working with a shaman to heal my issues with my toxic sisters. Once my sisters could feel the amazing changes I've been making they told me that the shaman I've been seeing has put negative energy in me and I'm "possesed" all because I am no longer taking their crap anymore.
@mariaawake4502
@mariaawake4502 11 ай бұрын
The narcissist "blames" my healing on the therapist. 🤫🤔😊
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Let's give you some credit!!
@mariaawake4502
@mariaawake4502 11 ай бұрын
@@SurvivingNarcissism , yes, I feel I can do that.
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
Hi Maria awake keep healing! Keep growing! 👍🙏
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
@Maria for some reason I find that funny 🤔. Mine told me a lady at church was "Giving you ideas!" so he didn't like her. I found THAT funny too. Maybe because he noticed a difference and he had me trained to give only certain "approved" responses 😂. Maybe I can laugh because I'm looking back now and can see his pattern and "obstacle course" that I'm not participating in anymore but can see him in it and turn about is kind of funny. But I do wish you well and thank you for sharing, God bless.
@mariaawake4502
@mariaawake4502 11 ай бұрын
@@SendItForward , yes, it is funny , but shows how little confidence the narcissists have in us.
@sturobertson6791
@sturobertson6791 11 ай бұрын
Hi everyone. This title really got me thinking in many healthy ways.....we CAN heal,...they CAN'T, healing means growing and learning, healthy self care...looking inside ourselves and identifying stuff we need to work on...and we DO....and when we learn how to, we feel free and genuinely content. All unknown concepts to the N's and the toxics, so they feel fear. And, as always, because we are NEVER allowed to do anything by and for ourselves, they :hate" us for it, triggering their rage and craziness etc. Cheers all, gratitude as always🙏🙏🌞🌞
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
So observant Stu and correct. My projects were considered stupid and a waste of my time and $ UNLESS "he" got to lay some claim on it. If another liked it and "he" didn't get any credit "he" would find all kinds of fault with it. If he couldn't be The King (dictator) in charge and have "his" blessing (approval) over ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, then it was crapola!! Now "he" is king of nothing and his demeanor has changed to poor me, whoa is me, until he can get some pity then it's back to same ole same old.
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
I really like the way you put this Stu 👍❣️
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
​@SendItForward I've known many people like this, unfortunately. Take care ❣️
@SendItForward
@SendItForward 11 ай бұрын
@@amandaliverpool3374 hey 👋 good to hear from you!!
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 11 ай бұрын
@@SendItForward How have you been?
@vanessapehl7581
@vanessapehl7581 11 ай бұрын
Hello Dr. Carter thank you another insightful video. I AM HEALED. ❤❤❤❤
@madibuschman8507
@madibuschman8507 11 ай бұрын
"addition via subtraction". love that. thank you!
@doubleshot9
@doubleshot9 11 ай бұрын
You don't have to work at someone treating you nice. Set a boundary. Block, move on. Heal. Trauma bond kept us from setting boundaries, because we saw that treatment as normal.
@DianaIsabel929
@DianaIsabel929 11 ай бұрын
Math metaphor works! Subtracting a negative is adding a positive 😂
@lo-ul8nq
@lo-ul8nq 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr.C. you're so right about everything. Its so very true. I enjoy watching your videos. It has helped me alot. Both of my parents are Narcissists so is my grandmother. I got C-Ptsd from the abuse. I am 47 female who is the oldest out of five children my parents had. I always been the black sheep in my family. My brothers and sisters are Narcissists Enablers. I went to Jesus cause of the abuse. Jesus is our hope. God is Love. I been to celebrate recovery that has helped me. I been a Christian for over ten years. I know my worth and values. My peace comes from God. God is great all the time. I got support from my friends from church. Be careful not everyone who goes to church are True Christians. We know them by there spirits if they are from God or not. Greater is He who is in us than He who is in the world.1John 4:4 I walk away from Narcissists. I stay calm and quiet. Its not worth it to say anything to Narcissists since they dont get it at all. Narcissists are liars Narcissists never loved us At all Narcissists don't care about you at all Narcissists are broken people Narcissists are insecure people Narcissists always act like they are the victim Narcissists are pure evil souls from the Devil Narcissists are fake and phony people.
@franciscosticotti2231
@franciscosticotti2231 11 ай бұрын
Such an inmense gratitude, dignity, respect, loyalty with team healthy, civility, moving on calm firmness. I can't repay in any other way than living my life commited to love. Thank you so much.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Wow! You just made my day, Francisco. Keep I t up.
@amandainsa1048
@amandainsa1048 11 ай бұрын
Your descriptions of a plan for healing are SO helpful! I knew I would have to have Calm Confidence when I finally resigned. I knew the Covert Narcissist Boss would give the silent treatment and begin a smear campaign against me. The Malignant Narcissist Boss would throw a huge fit and shout insults and threats. I was exactly right about both!! On my last day, she sent me a dozen texts before I even arrived at the office, accusing me of being late. I had to run a work-related errand before I arrived (which she was aware of because I'd put it on my calendar weeks before.) All week long, she was telling me, "You'd better leave EVERYTHING here in the office for the next person, and if I call you with questions, you better answer your phone! ONLY take what actually belongs to you! Do NOT take our materials or supplies! And don't even THINK of sharing our confidential information with anyone! And finish ALL of your projects before you leave!" When it was finally time for me to turn in my keys, she asked, "Well?? Don't you have anything to say??....You're not even going to answer me??" I replied, "We all get to choose which direction we want to take in life. I'm choosing to go in another direction. I wish you the best of luck. But please understand. I no longer have anything to say to you all, and I don't want anything to do with you. Goodbye." I breathed the BIGGEST sigh of relief when I walked out that door! They were so FURIOUS when employees resigned (and several of us did.) We all used the Grey Rock method and did not engage any more than we had to. It is so helpful! They loved to belittle, insult, and antagonize people, and when we refused to engage, it DIFFUSED the situation. Thank you, Dr. C!! I can't tell you how much you have helped me and my friends.
@aviyahchaverim9388
@aviyahchaverim9388 11 ай бұрын
Dr. Les, I just wanted to tell you that I really appreciate all you do to help others heal from Narcissist abuse. I have ADHD, Dyslexia and sometimes have a hard time listening to spoken concepts. When you provide examples of various scenarios, it really helps me to comprehend the messages you have given which are very helpful to my healing process. I hope and pray much success for your effort. I believe there will be a great award waiting for your in the Messianic Kingdom to come for all your selfless diligence in sharing with others. Keep up the good work! Shalom. :)
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@southerncatlady
@southerncatlady 11 ай бұрын
I needed to hear all of this, but especially when you said, "I'm pulling for you." Thank you so much! Getting tough IS tough. But I am going to try this time. REALLY try. And that encouragement helps SO MUCH! 🖤
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
we are all behind you. This community is fabulous, I get me strength from here and every day I make a choice to stay no contact. Like a stupid addiction ,thinking I owe the people something. whole family of origin are narcs, both parents, both siblings. Lost them all and only have a small family. Only cousin is a flying monkey to them all.
@southerncatlady
@southerncatlady 11 ай бұрын
@@marian9410 I am SO sorry that you're going through that! I'm here for you! 🖤 I needed to hear this rn... I messed up and engaged in conversation with my ex narc today... I let him get under my skin and make me feel like I needed to defend myself. I wish I hadn't. But now, it's up to me to field the nonsense he's saying... Hugs to you. I wish you all the success on your journey 🖤🖤
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
@@southerncatlady Listen, most of us here have ended up back in conversations at some point with the narcs, thinking that this time we can handle it better or won't be affected, but the main thing is if you are a loving being, then you will always be impacted and shocked by calleousness, disregard or bad behaviours and that is actually a strength. You are a good person, so you will always react to this type of nonsense. You have humanity! Narcs prey on us for that reason and use our shock, guilt or pain as fuel. I had exes who did this and I got away from them but it took me decades to figure out (only recently! ) that my whole family of origin was doing the same thing!! I have learned to see my kindness and loving nature as a gift and just choose to give that to people who will appreciate it now, family or not. Everyone else, who are self-absorbed can go suck out the lifeblood from someone else. Preferably a stone or another narc. Honestly. I am 59 now. Don't wait as long as me. Stay strong, if you can't all the time and go back into conversation, don't beat yourself up, just see it as learning and gradually it will get better and you will be able to fully remove yourself. Be kind to yourself. Just say to yourself, oops it happened again, but next time it will be better. Get some hobby or other things to divert yourself and take it easy. We are all rooting for you over here!!
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 11 ай бұрын
I have experienced the narcissist(s) being suspicious about my apparent healing from my real physical injuries sustained during narcissistic abuse that became violence at times. Instead of feeling regret about what they did and joy when seeing the miracle of me fully healed in mind with only physical scars left slowing me down only a little thanks to medical treatment making up for the same they only wanted to be constant continuing to look most for validation that they remain superior in constitution than me. It is almost like they are becoming more and more willfully blind and deaf while trying to hang onto more and mroe the illusion that they are omniprescent superior to others in order to feel more secure within themselves. Now it is almost as if I can detect that kind of attitude in a person's voice and body language now after getting to know them only for a much shorter time when before it would take me about a year to discern that is true in a person towards me. Sometimes that negative attitude towards me is only commonplace egocentricity while we get to know one another better.
@juliebraunschweig2108
@juliebraunschweig2108 11 ай бұрын
The beauty of it all is I am finally cured of the awful, and thankfully short-lived, disease to please and am firmly replanted back inside the familiar comfort of abiding joy and cheerfully optimistic nature I was born with; to which the writings in my 63yo baby book, as well as my enduring relationships, can attest. I am happy to be excited about the future again now that I've re-focused my energy and reclaimed my power through a series of critical choices. For the past two weeks and for the first time ever, I've been the recipient of the classic 'punishment' of the narcissist: The Silent Treatment. There have been occasions to pass one another in the dining room. I surprised even myself when, two days in and without a thought, I spontaneously offered her a sincere smile and genuinely cheerful 'good morning'. This unexpected, subconscious reaction lies largely on the gift she unwittingly gave; space to examine my options and add up the length and breadth of my control over ~ and responsibility for ~ her and others like her. After doing the math, it repeatedly came up zero. That was truly liberating. It's become clear to see who is 'losing' when my DIL responds with her usual icy grunt and perpetual scowl, while I am, once again, a happy human of calm demeanor and peaceful spirit, enjoying another wonderful day on earth. Who's winning here? 🤗
@lancelotdufrane
@lancelotdufrane 11 ай бұрын
I spoke to the X Narc considering my daughters wedding. “Can we behave as old friends, for our daughter.” Response was… yeah! Too bad you couldn’t see this earlier! You’ve been so disagreeable!”.. here we go. I survived by avoiding. Wedding was beautiful.
@mre9208
@mre9208 11 ай бұрын
Not crying, or collapsing, drinking heavily or being emotionally disregulated makes them angry because they feel less necessary. Sadly they don't stop to consider how it makes you feel - more stable.
@eleanorjordan3404
@eleanorjordan3404 11 ай бұрын
I’ve divorced the narcissist…(he began w gaslighting, then demeaning me, then ghosted, then discarded me (hallelujah) but I find myself hiding the good things that happen now to me, because I know if he knows, he finds excuses to stay…so I have to hide raises, promotions, new friends or jobs, etc…if he knew I was doing so much better, he’d find a way and reason to stay/come back around…but I hate having to hide…
@janeteddddd
@janeteddddd 11 ай бұрын
A private life is a peaceful life.
@harmonicresonanceproject
@harmonicresonanceproject 11 ай бұрын
'Exaggerated Invalidation' - that's so interesting. I always learn something new here!
@aloniutube
@aloniutube 11 ай бұрын
I pondered this issue and like to share with others: what if the narcissist was given an ecstasy pill to raise his empathy levels. So quickly I found out there was a controlled test in Germany on this and the conclusions were- they didn’t show any improvement on top what they already have, which is a 2 year old empathy level. Actually the emotions that were enhanced are those of a 2 year old- jealousy and other negative stuff. My personal conclusion is that narcissism is a disability of the brain and you simply cannot give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they will change. Can feel sorry for them but be smart and do not show them that because they will use it against you. I believe They are jealous of people with empathy so they find ways to use that empathy against them and that makes them feel they are superior and in control even though they are inferior and insecure.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
very interesting that research thank you for sharing. that sounds about right for my mother, father, sister and brother. Not an inch of movement in their development for decades. And stupid me was caught in the middle. I had years of therapy because I didn't know what was going on with me and that I was being abused by all of them. Gone no contact now with them. A relief. Its honestly like having had yourself controlled by 4 toddlers and trying to reason with them. sickening.
@aloniutube
@aloniutube 11 ай бұрын
@@marian9410 I totally understand you and where you’re coming from. They simply are wicked children in adult bodies
@carleey9513
@carleey9513 11 ай бұрын
This gentleman is such a gem. For over 20 years I have been dealing with a daughter in law whom, I now have realized is a narcissist? For years I tried to please her, hoping she would like me. I cannot tell how my life was filled with fear at losing my son. The information here is a life saver. It has taken me years but I feel I am on the right track. I no longer go to their house with stomach cramps. I do feel my son has changed. I see the manipulations. It has been a long road but I need to let go. In a way, I feel I need to thank her (inwardly). She has been instrumental in my gaining inner strength, in accepting myself. Her girlfriends ignore me, are really so unfriendly towards me. I wonder why? But that also has helped me gain strength. I need to be ok with me and they can talk or think whatever they wish. I try to love her but I am starting with full acceptance that this will never change. She must feel so desperate inside. Love to everyone❤️
@SuzannaLiessa
@SuzannaLiessa 11 ай бұрын
Today is exactly 8 months since i caught on. Fortunately, i was able to leave two weeks later. Those two weeks, and the absolutely surreal week that led to me catching on were torture, & im disabled because of the mental damage. BUT. I do a lot of very deliberate work on emotional growth. Looking back, this video sounds very familiar. Im really proud of myself, because i eventually outgrew his ability to control me. I have a lot of healing to do, and this is one of the hardest things ive ever done. But i realized almost immediately how squeezed i had been and how many possibilities i have now. I want to heal enough to go back to work, but im also welcoming this as a time to rest and reevaluate.
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
you keep going, it does get better. I had a few bad narc relationships, it's tough but through your message I get the impression you are tapping into your strength, even if it still feels like you are having to work hard. I am currently going no contact with the narc mother, brother and sister after the passing of the narc father. I was so stupid to fall for my family of origin for so long. No wonder my choice in men was so bad when I was younger. I am 59 now and my husband of 20 years is the best thing ever happened to me. It has helped my healing to look for people who are kind and compassionate and gentle
@SuzannaLiessa
@SuzannaLiessa 11 ай бұрын
@marian9410 Thank you so much. This is hard, but it’s not the only hard thing I've done in my life. Just the hardest. I can survive hard, and I know how to use it to help me grow. Besides, things were hard before I caught on. I just didn't know how deeply unhappy I was. At least now "hard" is taking me somewhere, "hard" isn't going to last forever, and no matter hard this is, that deep unhappiness has changed into pain, which is a very different thing. I was open about why I was leaving a marriage of 33 years. My friends have swarmed me with love, validation, and kindness. I will never forget the way I felt when a friend reacted with unconscious kindness to a situation I was accustomed to being shamed for. I felt so very loved, even though all she’d done was run an errand without me because I was tired. My friends don't expect me to be unbreakable. I might never regain full function - I continue to see returning to work as the most likely possibility, but that's not a guarantee. I _will_ heal. I will take disabled but healed over fully-abled but unconsciously badly wounded. I have a gift for you. You weren’t "stupid" because you failed to catch on to your family. What we grow up with is "normal" to us until something happens to open our eyes. You were plenty smart enough to act when you realized what was happening to you.
@marvadrozell5128
@marvadrozell5128 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! My husband and I are both trying to heal now bc we are done walking on eggshells with our DIL and our son. You have hit every issue that we have gone thru. Thank you again and I will continue to listen❤
@sandiish64
@sandiish64 11 ай бұрын
I am going through this with my son and DIL as well. It's hard when 2 little girls are involved 😢
@DWN590
@DWN590 11 ай бұрын
What is DIL?
@berlinetta____2680
@berlinetta____2680 11 ай бұрын
@@DWN590 Daughter in law
@annatirre2154
@annatirre2154 11 ай бұрын
It's my DIL too that is the narc. She has taken our grandsons away from us and our son let her. He believes everything out of her mouth.😢
@sandiish64
@sandiish64 11 ай бұрын
@annatirre2154 same here, he doesn't see it yet,or is afraid she'll leave him and take everything.
@lunevermeil1400
@lunevermeil1400 11 ай бұрын
My mother sent my father to jail on false charges when he tried to take me and escape her.. then when I tried to leave my mother she did the same thing to me.. Narcissists are bloody dangerous.
@janaleelee6535
@janaleelee6535 Ай бұрын
Quote from "The Secret Garden" book: "Where you tend a rose, a thistle can not grow." Let's tend to our mental health and thrive. Make no room for the narcissistic thistles.
@gestapoid
@gestapoid 11 ай бұрын
My brother and i have come to the realization that both our parents are nercissists: one overt and the other covert. Before i realized they were NPD, I told my parents that my goal as a parent was to build on what they did well and not repeat the mistakes they made. One would think a parent would be proud of a child for trying to better themselves (i would be), but they viewed it as treason. By refusing to engage in dysfunctional behavior, it was like i was rejecting the core values of our family. If you have narcissistic parents, do not fall into the hope trap that they will be better gramdparents than they were parents. They wont be. They dont think they did anything wrong as parents, so why would they change as grandparents?
@mararamitchpeace
@mararamitchpeace 10 ай бұрын
When I healed in that relationship before I left. I changed completely. I no longer reacted to his triggering words and actions. He was completely convinced that I was acting until he met my real estate and escrow agents 😉
@kellymackie4836
@kellymackie4836 11 ай бұрын
I know there are many who cannot leave, but I knew the only way to heal and find myself again was get away from him and all the flying monkeys. My life went from night to day immediately. I watch as many of these as I can so I never forget and continue to be my most healthy self. No contact is so needed and I feel so sorry for those who cannot do that 😢
@cherylbarrel9966
@cherylbarrel9966 11 ай бұрын
The narc may misinterpret healing as disloyalty. More importantly, I do hear your heart! Encouragement makes it possible to embrace the radical acceptance that leads to peace . Thank you!
@EstherH85
@EstherH85 11 ай бұрын
I’ve upgraded my Core Content from “broken and needs fixing” to “work in progress” 🙌 thank you Dr C!
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism 11 ай бұрын
That's progress!
@marian9410
@marian9410 11 ай бұрын
I recognise that. I also passed via a 'they are broken and need fixing. Definitely.' phase. helped me to feel better about myself! 😂
@juliechurch1799
@juliechurch1799 11 ай бұрын
Narc says ,your changed ,you say I know I'm not your doormat no more . Get your own dinner !
@macunz111
@macunz111 11 ай бұрын
My daughter narcissist discarded me. Thank God 😂😅. I am grieving the loss of my grandchildren, though. I was there when their parents were going through addiction. I pray for them, and of course all children. Plus, my narcissist sister has been triangulating everyone in the family against me 😢 I rejected her abuse few years ago. My daughter was the last one 😢
@Denmark446
@Denmark446 11 ай бұрын
God continue to bless you in providing such wisdom to us who have narcissists in our lives.
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