ShVing of 12k is all you need

@@garyhaywood6013 yes it’s a fantastic stone.

The naniwa pro are more expensive but don't clog as quick as super stones so I use the 3k pro for heavy work then Naniwas superstone . Get the 20mm thick if you going to get some

I didn't want to confuse you but yes my 5k 8k and 12k are the thicker version naniwa and there called Gouken kagayaki . The 3k is naniwa pro. They say the Gouken are the newer superstone and I've had both and I do think the Gouken seem slightly better but some say there the same but if I was you get the Gouken kagayaki naniwa in 20mm

Not really just normal pressure, enough to keep the razor flat on the hone .

@@garyhaywood6013 thanks, it does look like you are using light pressure even when you say you are applying more pressure is that the case too?

@@MrStrom82 at the beginning on the 3k and 5k a little more pressure than normal. So long as you finish lightly on the final hone you will be ok.

@@garyhaywood6013 much appreciated! 👍🏻

If I was you I would buy the 3k naniwa professional. Reason being it doesn't clog up with swarf and it cuts plenty fast enough fir bevel setting . Then get the 5k 8k 12k naniwa Gouken kagayaki in the 20mm thick . There the new version of Naniwas superstones

@@garyhaywood6013 Thank you very much for the prompt and detailed reply, it was very enlightening. Your video is excellent with useful information. We thank you for that.

@@garyhaywood6013 Hello Gary. I'm thinking a lot about whether the perfect progression is 1k 3k 5k and 10 pro. I think the 10 pro leaves a better mirror polish than the 12k and without dulling the steel stone. The edge was wanted even smoother than finishing in 12k Super Stone. Thank you

I use the. 3k pro it's much better than 3k naniwa

I wonder if the 10k termination is better than the 12k.

I use super 88 scotch tape but yes any would be 👍

That's the one thing you can get especially with out use of tape not that using no tape is incorrect because it's not . It's fine to not use tape . On the lower grits they do swarf up real quick . I've switched to the 3k naniwa pro and 5 k they really don't swarf up and any loading rubs of easy . I use the 10k Suhiro. Kousek also very good stone I think it's better than 12k naniwa . You just have to lap your stones regularly

@@garyhaywood6013 Thanks for the info, Gary. Maybe I'm overdoing it with the pressure. Just got them and I think I will stick with them for some years. Maybe my technique is wrong, maybe its because I haven't lapped them yet. First time honer and something goes wrong from the get go. I saw a bunch of videos with Naniwa SS, and the never got loaded that quick. Thank heaven for guys like you that make such excellent videos. Learning a lot. I have noticed that you almost newer put the heel on the stones. I did that and that is where the most swarfing happened. The celebrated does not have such a heavy shoulder, so I thought, it does not matter, if I hone the full edge, heel included. Maybe I did a big mistake in that.

@@timothyberg7720 I'd highly recommend 400 atoma diamond plate for lapping . I do touch down on the heal . 8k and 12k you shouldn't need lots of work especially 12 k . They are a good set of hones they show serve you well

@@garyhaywood6013 Hey Gary, thanks for the tip. I just found an Atoma for under 70 Euros. I thought the 400 was the price. But that is quiet affordable. I just honed the knife the first time with tape on the back, and there is much less build up than without the tape, you were right. I bought the naniwas, because of video by a guy named Lynn Abrams. But now I see there are lots of videos out there, where people are bashing naniwa ss for soaking up water and cracking. Lets see how long they will serve me well...

@@timothyberg7720 your Naniwas what model are they ? Knifes are softer you will get swarf build up . The naniwa you have won't crack some say they warp I had the 20mm version still do they don't crack it's the naniwa pro that had crazing problems mine haven't but I dry they fully and air them on there side

It is actually I do agree