Taking the Ruger SFAR to the Limit

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Hop

Hop

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The Ruger SFAR is one of the coolest rifles we've seen lately but in its factory configuration it's sort of lacking... luckily it doesn't have to end there. With the addition of a Riflespeed gas block we can get the SFAR to the level of reliability we want, but the downside is it's not cheap any more.
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@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see Hop is taking this rifle...SFAR as it can go
@ssspencerjr
@ssspencerjr 8 ай бұрын
Underrated comment.
@johnkrstyen7351
@johnkrstyen7351 8 ай бұрын
Laughed way harder than I should have at this comment
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 8 ай бұрын
@@johnkrstyen7351 Yes you did. Just kidding I laughed too.
@MoY206
@MoY206 8 ай бұрын
I saw it a mile away 🎉
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 8 ай бұрын
Oh, that was good.👏
@Karza_357
@Karza_357 8 ай бұрын
The SFAR is an amazing product. You get the Vietnam war experience with stuck cases right out of the box.
@aregularperson7573
@aregularperson7573 8 ай бұрын
This made me chuckle
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
It had a malfunction for that mass shooter.
@anthonygerber8261
@anthonygerber8261 8 ай бұрын
It's a bummer. I really wanted it to be reliable!!! Ruger is a good company. Hopefully they stop using the public for QC like Sig has been doing lately.
@vincentdelaossa9740
@vincentdelaossa9740 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@michaelkvilvang7348
@michaelkvilvang7348 8 ай бұрын
I got an SFAR this summer 16” & have had zero issues. M80 ball about 1800 funds through it. Haven’t even got the new gas key cause the damn thing runs. Keep your guns lubed.
@teenlaqueepha
@teenlaqueepha 5 ай бұрын
My SFAR has ran great (thankfully). I’ve been running it like a fool and she’s been a champ.
@sdrawls
@sdrawls 4 ай бұрын
Mine also after 1 year no malfunctions after5-600 rounds
@salonofre7857
@salonofre7857 3 ай бұрын
Just purchased one two weeks ago hopefully it runs good. Maybe Ruger has made some changes since they've received so many complaints on the gas issue?
@MandoWookie
@MandoWookie 8 ай бұрын
I think the SFAR is a good sign that the market for a small frame 308 is going to expand. Probably because of, not in spite of, its problems. Its cost is so tempting, its compatibility with common AR components means its easy to tinker with, and since most AR owners treat guns like LEGO sets, changing a bunch of parts out is a feature, not a bug. So, I wouldnt be surprised if this sparks a minor aftermarket in fixes for common problems, and maybe down the line an ecosystem for small frame 308s that center on the SFAR, since the DPMS GII fell to Cerberus and the Rogue is priced out of the casual buyer range.
@JW-wi1nf
@JW-wi1nf Ай бұрын
Everyone wants a low cost product that is also a quality build and functions. For example, look at Arken scopes and the huge following they have. SFAR gets the job done at close range because MOA is not a factor. MOA becomes a factor at distance and the complaints go up considerably. Much like the Arken where the build and turrets has high praise but at distance the glass quality comes in to play and the complaints increase. The POF Revolution or DD5 V5 cost more than the SFAR but they perform out of the box and at distance with better components and tighter tolerances. So the debate continues "At what price, are you willing to spend and be happy with the decision?".
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely hilarious when he coughed after all that gas blowback, and the cool air condensed his breath, looking like he had swallowed all that smoke! Like a cartoon!
@erick1076
@erick1076 6 ай бұрын
Have had mine since November and so far zero issues
@teenlaqueepha
@teenlaqueepha 5 ай бұрын
Same here. Got mine in December.. runs great.
@fuelguy2020
@fuelguy2020 4 ай бұрын
I just got mine. Maybe it's from a newer batch? We shall see.
@very7962
@very7962 2 ай бұрын
Sample size of 1
@redrighthandllc
@redrighthandllc 8 ай бұрын
Riflespeed is an amazing product and we love them. 40k of full auto among the collection of our samples and they run like the day they where installed. Glad to see it fix your issues with the SFAR.
@ferntheyoutuber9960
@ferntheyoutuber9960 8 ай бұрын
This is the series I'm most interested in on your channel and I feel like I'm not alone. Thank you for all the information.
@natsuccubus
@natsuccubus 8 ай бұрын
no greater ad campaign than ruger being sure a “certain someone” got a functioning SFAR in stock configuration
@thesaint1517
@thesaint1517 8 ай бұрын
The reason why I bought the SFAR was because of price and weight. I had to send mine because of shaving the brass and double feeding on setting 2. Just came back after a fast turn around and tried it a couple of days on setting 3 and while still shaving some of the brass, I saw great improvement after 50 rounds. On setting 2 worked flawless with my handloads. If I start spending money changing all the parts that mentioned, I'll be defeating the purpose of acquiring the SFAR. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 8 ай бұрын
I think the Savage MSR-10 is the more optimal size for lighter .308s. Still has a bit more carrier weight, without being a beast like an LR-308/AR-10 BCG. Also has adjustable gas with mechanical advantage.
@mrgrump2534
@mrgrump2534 3 ай бұрын
This hobby is not for the poors 😂
@mrgrump2534
@mrgrump2534 3 ай бұрын
Also, what do you mean shaving the brass?
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 ай бұрын
Haha, I was just thinking about the Dictator gas block as a solution and there it was in the video. I've used the Dictator on a couple builds and like it aside from the concern for overall height. It's tall and the straight gas tube is tall, so handguard must be chosen carefully.
@BweareK
@BweareK 8 ай бұрын
So, are you saying a POF Dictator wouldn’t fit under the SFAR’s OEM handguard?
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 ай бұрын
@BweareK I don't know, I don't have an SFAR. Just saying the Dictator is tall and I've run into issues getting it to safely clear handguards in some builds.
@colestahl1265
@colestahl1265 8 ай бұрын
The sfar seems like the optimal platform for a low back pressure can like the flow 762 ti. The small amount of back pressure that a flow through can may be enough to make the factory setting 2 reliable while also cutting down on gas to the face. The low weight and and small form factor of that can also compliments the SFARs strengths. edit: This may be why Military Arms Channel’s SFAR is reliable, I know he loves to use huxwrx cans.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride 8 ай бұрын
Can confirm the huxwrx 762ti works great... Just don't forget to take it off 3 lol
@MrLilhauughh
@MrLilhauughh 8 ай бұрын
Well that sucks. I would never want to spend my hard earned money on a firearm and be restricted to an uber specific build. Not a great business model.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride 8 ай бұрын
@@MrLilhauughh it's fine on a more restrictive can... Just run low
@lobo-uh2tb
@lobo-uh2tb 8 ай бұрын
😏🤣😂🤣😂👍
@codyrocca682
@codyrocca682 8 ай бұрын
Only can that works with a 1-1.2k gun is a 1.8k silencer that will spark harder than when I stick paper clips in my outlets on a 16” 308 lol
@cltnc571
@cltnc571 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you got a new jacket. If you were still wearing that rag you had last year I was going to write a nasty letter to James for not keeping up with his child support payments.
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
I still have that jacket but I ordered a replacement so I can be presentable at SHOT show and not get fired.
@fuelguy2020
@fuelguy2020 4 ай бұрын
​@@Hoplopfheil😂😂
@SH-zv2wy
@SH-zv2wy 8 ай бұрын
‘T&Fd outside an REI’ That’s top shelf comedy 😄
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you didn't abandon this project. It's SUCH a compelling gun considering how overpriced SCARs are and how much excess weight there is in shortstroke piston AR-10s. I'd love to see you try out a Faxon MLOK carbon fiber handguard (which would give more clearance for the gas block) or a BLK LBL integrated bipod handguard
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
You complain about overpriced then want to see a carbon hand guard
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 8 ай бұрын
@@HWG-wm8ldexactly - want guns that are as cheap as possible so that I have the budget for the best possible aftermarket parts. THIS is why I can't afford a SCAR - I would need a replacement lower to use 25 round Magpul PMAGs, I would need a CF handguard extension, I would need a nonreciprocating charging handle, I would need an ACR stock, and then I would still need to buy optics
@mrgrump2534
@mrgrump2534 3 ай бұрын
@@HWG-wm8ld not all of us are poor, like you, some of us like to buy guns, and then custom them out
@NTBD03
@NTBD03 8 ай бұрын
I’m running mine at the gas setting 2 with a flow through suppressor. I’ve been using a variety of loads ranging from M80 ball to 168gr HPBT Match. Never had a single failure.
@speedyolvera4748
@speedyolvera4748 8 ай бұрын
The real test is without the suppressor.
@justbuffering3299
@justbuffering3299 7 ай бұрын
The unicorn! Mines been pure hell. Just upgraded the gas block with an aero precision adjustable… heading to the frustration range tomorrow. Wish me luck 🙏
@teenlaqueepha
@teenlaqueepha 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, mine has been solid asf (luckily).. I fkn love it, but no can yet. Might snag a hux
@mrgrump2534
@mrgrump2534 3 ай бұрын
@@speedyolvera4748 we’re not poor, we don’t shoot without suppressors
@speedyolvera4748
@speedyolvera4748 3 ай бұрын
@@mrgrump2534 neither am I bud. I like reliability and versatility… stay humble my friend.
@MadOgre
@MadOgre 8 ай бұрын
I'm probably lucky in that my SFAR has had no problems. I've only put about 500 rounds through it, but they have been problem free. My build is maximizing the SFAR's strength, in that it is light, so I've kept it as light as possible. 3x Prismatic optic, Back up Irons, sling... That's all this rifle needed.
@OmnisEtNihil
@OmnisEtNihil 8 ай бұрын
My wallet wants me to buy the SFAR, but my heart knows I'll buy the DD5 V3.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride 8 ай бұрын
Identical build here!
@Big_Floyd
@Big_Floyd 8 ай бұрын
Don't plan on using it at night I see
@SkippyTarbuckle
@SkippyTarbuckle 8 ай бұрын
Same. Mine's been good. Changed the rail, and some controls, but that's it.
@ArduousPun
@ArduousPun 8 ай бұрын
Mine has been solid after the break-in period! I haven't admittedly ran it suppressed too much, but that will change this next weekend.
@diegorojas2728
@diegorojas2728 8 ай бұрын
I also had stuck casing issues. Contacted Ruger and they sent me their upgraded gas regulator. I've shot almost 100 rds without issues.
@domenik8339
@domenik8339 8 ай бұрын
I still remember when ruger made the Gen 1 AR556 with no dust cover. I think that was the point when I realized that ruger and the AR15 design don't mix.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 8 ай бұрын
When they made their first piston AR thing, a friend got one. It wasn't smooth like an AR and it was so front heavy. And it was about 400 bucks more than a lot of ARs that knew what an AR was supposed to be at the time.
@elmeramuro
@elmeramuro 8 ай бұрын
pretty sure the big brands like ruger and springfield get a payout for designing elaborately trash products. Take both parties ar10 offerings for example
@leckercidre160
@leckercidre160 8 ай бұрын
The MPR in 16" works great.
@elmeramuro
@elmeramuro 8 ай бұрын
@@leckercidre160 makes sense being a smaller company. Its still 16 inch 308, which is a joke, but at least it doesnt have a braindead muzzle device on it like the saint 308
@jeremymartinez933
@jeremymartinez933 8 ай бұрын
​@@leckercidre160i have an mpr i love it, almost no recoil, smooth & the trigger is great out of the box plus sub moa
@JakeCamo
@JakeCamo 8 ай бұрын
Nice review, super easy to watch, barely an inconvenience!
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 8 ай бұрын
Wow. Wow wow wow wow. Wow.
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono 8 ай бұрын
This review was TIGHT
@DonovanFlamingusIII
@DonovanFlamingusIII 7 ай бұрын
I have found my people.
@wc7102
@wc7102 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully Ruger takes note and comes out with a gen 2. I’ve wanted the SFAR for a while now, but have been patient, strictly due to Hop. Appreciate it, great series
@jeremywatson9129
@jeremywatson9129 8 ай бұрын
It would be nice if they made the rifle speed blocks a factory option.
@jakethemistake19
@jakethemistake19 7 ай бұрын
SFAR is a winner for a gun to be modded. It'll get the job done with the right upgrades. Would love to see custom barrels that match the SFAR spec.
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
For the old dust cover.. You can just take a triangle file and cut another groove around the little rod and order another tiny C-clip and snap it on there.. works just fine for a budget hack; or if you just happen to have a c-clip already and don't want to wait on parts.
@tedundercarriage8183
@tedundercarriage8183 8 ай бұрын
chucking it in a drill and using a washer to brace the file against the drill chuck is my trick. I don't know why 2 clips isn't the standard
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
@@tedundercarriage8183 Nice.. I'll try that next time. I'm sure there are aftermarket options that have a dual clip as standard; to be fair, when this was first designed, they didn't plan on it being so modular like it is today. Innovation is awesome.
@icarusflight2396
@icarusflight2396 8 ай бұрын
Super easy, barely a inconvenience.... nice. Love the pitch series
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono 8 ай бұрын
guntubers watching my fave comedy channels are TIGHT
@chrishelms1967
@chrishelms1967 8 ай бұрын
MAC was just talking about you and the SFAR today...... I've had zero issues with mine....but I have used a suppressor
@Two_Names
@Two_Names 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see this rifle back on the channel. Based on your experiences and those of others I know who shoot their sfar's, they really do need a whole new front-end. New barrel w/ smarter gas port, new gas regulation, new handguard. All things that could literally be fixed inexpensively from the factory if Ruger could get its head out of its own butt.
@JackTagar
@JackTagar 7 ай бұрын
What I would give for a furniture-less, barrel-less receiver set offered as a builder's kit.
@acrienteangelic1862
@acrienteangelic1862 8 ай бұрын
I've already drilled out 3 SFAR regulators, thankfully it seems to be a happy middle-ground for sizing, stock port size for #2 is 0.093" and we opened it to 0.098" and that was enough to have it cycling everything. We did find the #1 really only works well with higher back-pressure cans so we also opened it from 0.063" to 0.072". The #3 is 0.112", which is outrageously huge even as an adverse setting for any .308 gas gun.
@railfanningpoints2.045
@railfanningpoints2.045 8 ай бұрын
Why bother? Throw it away. Buy a better design like DD or LMT.
@acrienteangelic1862
@acrienteangelic1862 8 ай бұрын
@@railfanningpoints2.045 I think it would have been apparent that I'm not doing this work to MY rifles
@carbonking53
@carbonking53 7 ай бұрын
@@railfanningpoints2.045 Some folks don't have poser money.
@americaalways1442
@americaalways1442 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your info on modifications.
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 7 ай бұрын
@@acrienteangelic1862 what do you recommend for an AR-10?
@DallinHarris
@DallinHarris 8 ай бұрын
I have an SFAR with a Midwest handguard and radian raptor. Run suppressed on setting 2. I have had zero issues after the first 100 or so rounds. I like the rifle a lot. Shoots under 1 moa with sig 150 fmj
@aeis3007
@aeis3007 8 ай бұрын
Is yours the longer barrel though? From what I've seen review wise their are more problems with the shorter barrel ones.
@basemandog
@basemandog 8 ай бұрын
@@aeis3007mine is a 16 in barrel and have had zero issues with it
@aeis3007
@aeis3007 7 ай бұрын
@@basemandog glad to hear.
@ryanvargas4889
@ryanvargas4889 8 ай бұрын
“…Common to all Trijicon 1-4’s unFOURtunately…”. Nice touch.
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
Yes. I definitely did that on purpose because I am witty.
@kit3261
@kit3261 8 ай бұрын
The SFAR is a good idea and has appeal...but it's Gen 1 and new systems in Gen 1 almost always have bugs. Appreciate the effort, reviews, and updates Hop, it takes things like this to result in Gen2/Gen3 systems that are BNIB reliable.
@sambarnes9520
@sambarnes9520 8 ай бұрын
They problem with Ruger is that they consider gen 1 a finished product.
@kit3261
@kit3261 8 ай бұрын
I hate to say it but you're not wrong, they let some things linger now and then. Hopefully they will see the potential getting this right has. Produce the reliable version Hop has figured out and this becomes a serious player in the market.
@nickdial8528
@nickdial8528 7 ай бұрын
Typically Ruger rules stand behind the product and make sure the gun is right and runs like it should.. if you send it to tgwmm, they're not going to send back an unworking gun as far as I've experienced.
@nickdial8528
@nickdial8528 7 ай бұрын
@@user-jl6hr5ys2j Yes but you get that with any manufacturing company, it's not like that's unique to Ruger. I bought a sig 516 rifle, and I had to send that in for work to get done when it was having an issue. My Smith In Wesson AR22, had safety issues that needed to be recalled. Ruger has had problems, there's not a single gun manufacturer that hasn't had these issues. The real concern, is does the company do what they should to stand behind the product and correct it when needed? in my experience, Smith and Wesson has, Ruger has, and so has sig in my experience, when I've had to have issues fixed. there's not a single manufacturer or company that doesn't have issues like this, whether it's your car manufacturer, or anything else, this happens. They're machines, and sometimes things need to be corrected. there's no such thing as a company that puts out a perfect product, hell, my chevy pickup truck has been more reliable than my Toyota, and yet you hear people always parrot how great toyota's are and they never break down, and I can tell you that's absolutely not true.... my Toyota has had plenty of issues.
@kit3261
@kit3261 7 ай бұрын
Is Ruger willing to handle a warranty issue, sure they are. As a customer though, having to go through the warranty process has additional costs, takes additional time and effort, and puts a stink on the purchase. Ruger isn't the only manufacturer though that's guilty of beta testing it's products on the public by rushing to market with "sort of" works products. In hindsight, I bet a lot of Gen 1 P365 buyers would have much rather waited for Gen 3 model.
@Dilly_franks
@Dilly_franks 8 ай бұрын
Been going back and forth between the sfar and 716i... been itching for this video thanks for the awesome content as always
@davidhoffpauir1963
@davidhoffpauir1963 8 ай бұрын
Check out the pof revolution. Mine is a 3/4 moa after putting a geissele 2 stage enhanced.
@Snougaloogie
@Snougaloogie 8 ай бұрын
​@@davidhoffpauir1963is yours the piston or the DI?
@davewebster5120
@davewebster5120 8 ай бұрын
I use superlative arms gas blocks in all of my ars. perfect reliability with any bullet despite spring weight/buffer weight/bullet types. Runs waaaay cleaner suppressed and no gas in the face as long as your settings are good.
@scottcampbell2585
@scottcampbell2585 8 ай бұрын
Had something similar with the AASF .308 by Adam’s arms over gas. Solution 5.8 ounce buffer weight and a rifle length spring. Cycles 147-175 ejection pattern is 1 o’clock 147 to 3:30 4 with the 175. The rifle has 5 settings on the gas block. Surefire war comp and warden device.
@HotboiEngineering
@HotboiEngineering 8 ай бұрын
Have one of those gas blocks coming for my USPSA rifle, makes me feel better knowing my purchase is validated by my favorite guntubers.
@ChristianGrest
@ChristianGrest 8 ай бұрын
I'm liking my SFAR so far. Still running the factory gas block, but did swap out the HandGuards for a MI combat rail. Have had issues suppressed on setting 1 and unsuppressed on setting 2. Will try those lower gas settings once I get more rounds through it.
@or6060
@or6060 8 ай бұрын
i swear the rogue used to have an adjustable gas block. it also used to be $1700.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride 8 ай бұрын
Maybe early on... I didn't like the barrel twist rate of 1 in 8 though.
@LosDoyerss
@LosDoyerss 8 ай бұрын
"use to"
@GiveMeTheRedPill
@GiveMeTheRedPill 8 ай бұрын
It seems most people have issues with the 16” version. I personally have the 20” and it has cycled everything flawlessly…even my mild hand loads.
@rustyshackelford5758
@rustyshackelford5758 8 ай бұрын
Same.
@wes326
@wes326 8 ай бұрын
My 20" tears the case rims on M080 ammo on setting 3. On setting 2 it shoots hunting ammo fine but still won't shoot M080 reliably. It's a work in progress.
@docternoblex
@docternoblex 8 ай бұрын
I think that the potential is there, with the work like you have done, it seems like a great rifle. Imagine if munitionworks got their hands on the specs and means to produce it
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
Why would you buy something that doesn’t work. Same with the prodigy, yes it works after $500 plus labor, just buy high quality.
@anthonyarcher7268
@anthonyarcher7268 8 ай бұрын
@@HWG-wm8ld Why would anyone treat these guntubers as anything but entertainment?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
I see most as just narcissistic rubes. This guy is definitely in the top 10.
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 6 ай бұрын
​@@anthonyarcher7268what?
@MichelKeis
@MichelKeis 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the awesome content ✌🏽
@highdragguns
@highdragguns 8 ай бұрын
Definitely not on my to-buy list, but really enjoyed the SFAR video series - great content as always!
@nickdougherty3528
@nickdougherty3528 7 ай бұрын
Bro, totally the best on the tuning of the Ruger sfar. Ive been binging KZfaq spar videos all morning while doing my paperwork if I could have just saw yours first I would have moved on to my TE150 Husqvarna top-end rebuild video and then on to my air Venturi moisture removal video and then on to my electric water heater probe insert for my RV. crap sounds like I got a lot of work to do. Why do I buy things that need work? when I don't want to work this much. If I buy less I can work less. Fish hunt more
@pztgst
@pztgst 8 ай бұрын
I've got a POF rogue and used a riflespeed to tame the gas on that as well. The biggest problem after tuning everything is that the gas system is just too short causing the bolt to start to unlock too early. I get that they designed it to work with cheap steel ammo, but I wish they opted for a longer gas system so it stops eating brass.
@cristiancruz1972
@cristiancruz1972 8 ай бұрын
What is the length of the gas system it ships with? Would you be able to swap barrel with a longer port to help with the issue?
@danielllewellyn5720
@danielllewellyn5720 8 ай бұрын
That's the same problem with the 16" SFAR.
@justbuffering3299
@justbuffering3299 7 ай бұрын
@@cristiancruz1972no barrel swap possible.. proprietary lower won’t take anything else
@nitemare5030
@nitemare5030 8 ай бұрын
Hop. Don’t ever change. Your reviews are the best and funny at the same time. Haha “ I know what the F stands for “
@gutsbiker
@gutsbiker 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I was thinking about SFAR, now I'll wait awhile till they get the bugs out,
@D.M.Luiz.
@D.M.Luiz. 8 ай бұрын
Story of hops life is him continuously getting disappointed by rugers products.
@Jester62D
@Jester62D 7 ай бұрын
Try keeping an old style paint can / soda bottle opener in your kit. The hook end (paint can) fits in the same location as the extractor. The length let's you pry out the casing w/o sending a ram-rod down the barrel.
@rik4369
@rik4369 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the review. I have yet to try mine out after months. Waiting to finish my scope or red dot decision.
@mikelyon5595
@mikelyon5595 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest appraisal!
@e7tegt503
@e7tegt503 8 ай бұрын
Almost bought one of these when they first released them. Glad I didn’t. Typical ruger that doesn’t work out of the box or after a couple trips to customer service. Ruger - gunsmithing required. Thanks for updating us on this this project.
@erickaracsonyi4415
@erickaracsonyi4415 8 ай бұрын
As someone with another brand AR10 who has also dealt with these struggles, I think the issue with these platforms (larger frame AR's) is the 6mm ARC exists, and ammo prices between good match 308 and 6 ARC is getting very close.
@andycraig6905
@andycraig6905 8 ай бұрын
I think we're just short a mainstream enhanced intermediate cartridge like 6mm arc
@andycraig6905
@andycraig6905 7 ай бұрын
@@user-jl6hr5ys2j the whole point I'm making is that's the only thing holding it back. It's over a dollar a round for the cheap stuff and it's not available at the store usually. Other than that it's better than 5.56.
@01001010k01001101
@01001010k01001101 7 ай бұрын
I think Hop does an excellent job on this page and puts these rifles through a proper performance review. I trust his advice and rely on videos he puts out to make decisions. That being said, I have the 20” barrel of the SFAR and have had none of the same issues with reliability that he’s experiencing. I’ve now put 750+ 7.62x51 M80 Ball down range (don’t price that out please 😂) and can’t remember experiencing a single misfire or chambering issue. I have not even cleaned the rifle yet and performance has been exceptional for me. I’m actually frustrated that poor Hop has had to deal with these issues because I know how smoothly the gun has run for me. I’ve even considered purchasing the 16.1” version of this bc I would configure it much differently than the 20”. The 20” rifle is still completely stock config from Ruger, I’ve added scopes / fore grip / bipod accessories but have not altered any of the mechanical aspects of the rifle. It seems that the use of a suppressor on this rifle may interfere with proper gas release. I feel for you Hop, keep up the good work.
@JesusFreak8824
@JesusFreak8824 7 ай бұрын
"It's like poetry. It rhymes." Thanks George.
@hotrodglock
@hotrodglock 8 ай бұрын
Really like what you did here. I want another 308 auto, but most of them are just to heavy out the gate. This looks like a viable alternative, as long as you expect to need to tweak it
@middleagedbaldguy6774
@middleagedbaldguy6774 8 ай бұрын
Im kind of out on Ruger over the last few years. Their QC has been rough at best. I have a first gen PC9 thats been through a boltface, boltface pins, two extractors and still has extraction/feed issues. Its been back to Ruger and it was worse afterwards. I picked up the SFAR six months ago and I think the nicest thing I can say about it is that its light for a .308 platform. Its been a picky eater and as you mentioned, is over gassed or under. No sweet spot or pet ammo Ive found to get it cycling reliably out of the box. Both are just taking up space in the safe now. If I get a wild hair Ill check out that gas block.
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 7 ай бұрын
I agree completely. Smith and Wesson has gone downhill too. Imo.
@gregmacklem
@gregmacklem 7 ай бұрын
I have the 20” version and have put an ambi charging handle, Magpul angled foregrip, padded sling, Leupold VX3HD scope and a PSA single stage match trigger. I set it up for deer hunting. Had some issues early on but now is working flawlessly. It will group 3/4” at 100 yards with Federal Fusion 166 gr bullets. It will do 1” with Federal Premium 150 gr Nosler Partitions. Other hunting ammos I tried opened up beyond that. Absolutely love the rifle but did not get a chance at a deer this season so will have to wait another year.
@ayeayethantlamarca8356
@ayeayethantlamarca8356 8 ай бұрын
Hop, the shots of you “blowing steam “ were hilarious!
@juncho1977
@juncho1977 8 ай бұрын
I would say that a Huxwrx suppressor should work pretty well with the SFAR.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx 8 ай бұрын
It must generate tremendous back pressure the way he has a small no-flo can on a .308😮
@MMOchAForPrez
@MMOchAForPrez 8 ай бұрын
The Riflespeed adjustable gas system feels very underrated. I have one on my rifle and I'll never build another one without adjustable gas. The only thing I dislike about it is the longer versions tend to ring like a tuning fork when firing. Just put some sort of band on it if it annoys you.
@rbarbetta1978
@rbarbetta1978 8 ай бұрын
Shopping for a new 7.62 AR platorm rifle right now. Thanks for this video. Moving on....
@57yr6j03rn
@57yr6j03rn 8 ай бұрын
You sir are a Saint. And providing a great public sery
@gordo3697
@gordo3697 8 ай бұрын
Its the FUDD ghost of bill ruger haunting these war rifles😂
@Jack-M1113
@Jack-M1113 8 ай бұрын
Push it to the limit man. Pass along the razors edge…hold on…stopped myself
@theandwerd
@theandwerd 8 ай бұрын
Thanks hop, at least you didn’t abandon us like Chrisky, and are still doing gun interviews as opposed to brass facts
@scottwilson1258
@scottwilson1258 3 ай бұрын
I put the RifleSpeed adjustable gas block on My Home built (w/choice Parts) and it became EVERYTHING I HOPED FOR!!! Beautiful! I used a Midwest Industries 15" slim rail on my 556 w/riflespeed and fits Great!
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t you get a lemon originally? Did you get double lemonade? Which actually surprises me from Ruger to be honest.
@lt_dagg
@lt_dagg 8 ай бұрын
My buddy's ruger ar had misaligned feed ramps. the feed ramps in the barrel extention were clocked counter clockwise
@ToastbackWhale
@ToastbackWhale 8 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s Ruger. Not Knight’s.
@jacobroy586
@jacobroy586 8 ай бұрын
Ruger is the bottom line in most people’s eyes, and I hold them slightly below PSA. Ruger and pretty much any other legacy company really aren’t as great as some make them out to be.
@METALLIFY16
@METALLIFY16 8 ай бұрын
Why are you surprised? Its a ruger.
@mlgtactics9911
@mlgtactics9911 8 ай бұрын
​@@jacobroy586Was skeptical Ruger could do what no other company was doing with ar10 weight.
@billstevens5277
@billstevens5277 8 ай бұрын
Can't get one, my antenna is built into the car window.
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
My new truck has a shark fin thing on the roof. I hate the future.
@DerekJones
@DerekJones 8 ай бұрын
I guess I've been lucky. I took mine through the break in period with 200 rds of LC ball ammo, and then some extra ammo a friend gave me:). Zero failures on setting 3. It just worked perfectly. I ran into some lock back issues when I made some ammo for it that was a little to spicy. I dialed the powder back, and got exactly what I want for a Vmax 110gr bullet with exterminator. No failures yet.... If I have any issues I guess I could just change the gas block since Ruger is giving new revised ones away.
@underthasea
@underthasea 4 ай бұрын
my favorite channel on entire youtube. I just bought Riflespeed gas block after watching this lol
@yakkintyler7293
@yakkintyler7293 8 ай бұрын
Mine is stock 16”. Setting 3 to high and setting 2 to low. Hand guard is too close to the gas block. Besides that I love this rifle. I just want to know how reliable the BCG will last. I want this to be my SHTF gun but I’m not fully trusting it yet with 200 rounds I have in it with not really any “real” issues. Good video just disappointing. I’m still very happy with my SFAR
@GeneralSirDoctorJFK
@GeneralSirDoctorJFK 8 ай бұрын
Super easy, barely an inconvenience ❤
@danielhess39
@danielhess39 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great review 👍🏼
@HKGunPlay
@HKGunPlay 8 ай бұрын
I have the sig tread snakebite se and I love it. 1500 ar10. It has upgraded trigger break twice toned. Sweet gun
@tehmediasource
@tehmediasource 8 ай бұрын
This is why I enjoy being a SCAR guy, everything I’ve done to it feels more like “salt to preference” it doesn’t really need anything upgraded on it aside from a angled charging handle
@spectre.solutions
@spectre.solutions 8 ай бұрын
One of the main issues of the Scar imo is that the gun you get out of the boxes desperately needs upgrades to be adequate. You need to spend $320 on a proprietary trigger, another $300 on a rail extension to make it comfortably shootable, another $100 on gas jets to shoot properly when suppressed and another $100 on ergonomic upgrades. The SCAR is fun - but for what you pay it’s a crime for what you pay after to make it decent
@fullm3taljacket
@fullm3taljacket 8 ай бұрын
Suppressing it voids the warranty...I don't know if there's a "flavor" to that.
@tehmediasource
@tehmediasource 8 ай бұрын
Im hearing a lot of poverty
@f4t4lity0r4
@f4t4lity0r4 8 ай бұрын
Doesn’t it come with an A2 grip out of the box and suppressing it voids the warranty?💀
@wolfgang_h3t
@wolfgang_h3t 7 ай бұрын
Charging handle is ironically the only thing I haven't bothered messing with lol
@Leodigarius
@Leodigarius 8 ай бұрын
Riflespeed is a good option. I've also had great luck with the Noveske Switchblock as well, but you need a cutout to use it properly. Tried it on a N6 and I went from hardcore skeptic to a believer pretty quick. It's no wonder why NSW dudes like the N6 with a switchblock, it just makes sense. Would that have a place on the SFAR? Doubt it, but it's still another solid option. I was literally about to buy one of these when I got a screaming deal on a N6. Glad to see it's not total dogshit ass garbage.
@Cob2001
@Cob2001 8 ай бұрын
What's an N6?
@basedWisco715
@basedWisco715 8 ай бұрын
@@Cob2001noveske AR-10
@Drewsadventures00
@Drewsadventures00 4 ай бұрын
The fact you having all the problems and I’m over here no problems at all using hand loads and factory and I just put a can on it and no problems love it
@edwardmartinez9835
@edwardmartinez9835 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this review and all valid points. I am still considering this rifle as it is a sub 10lb 308/7.62 nato rifle. Pretty amazing development and price point from Ruger, all things considered.
@dravidiantommylinson3880
@dravidiantommylinson3880 8 ай бұрын
Love the constant content from you and 🅱️rass 🅱️acts lately
@sjoracer2934
@sjoracer2934 8 ай бұрын
That riflespeed gas block seems really neat. For anyone that has one, how difficult is it to adjust? In the video it looks like something that could get adjusted by bumping into rubble/barricades etc.
@pa3gungal
@pa3gungal 8 ай бұрын
They’re easy to adjust and work really well. Downsides are handguard compatibility (they are not low profile), weight (it’s heavy and pretty far out on the barrel) and price.
@sjoracer2934
@sjoracer2934 8 ай бұрын
@@pa3gungal thanks for the reply, when I get into the suppressor game I’ll have to pick one up!
@DKsupreme69420
@DKsupreme69420 8 ай бұрын
Very unlikely you’ll bump it unintentionally there’s a detent between each setting. Also being that it’s on the barrel itself you’re way likely to Wack something else before you hit it and the settings are visible.
@TheHide
@TheHide 7 ай бұрын
Gosh I want to get one of these bad to try out for my channel. With all the work Hop had to do inorder to make it "reliable" sure makes me wonder... But its a super intriguing concept.. Appreciate all the leg work with this one Hop!
@kennnuthatch5724
@kennnuthatch5724 6 ай бұрын
Picked up mine Friday, put 65 rounds through it and no malfunctions. I left the gas block setting on 3 as that was where it was set in box.
@jpap967
@jpap967 8 ай бұрын
Damn that sucks man....my SFAR has been reliable and deadly accurate through 300 rounds so far
@keepyourbilsteins
@keepyourbilsteins 8 ай бұрын
How TF are we supposed to use rifle grenades without a 0 gas setting? Hmm?
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
I didn't think of that.
@SHOTRED555
@SHOTRED555 8 ай бұрын
I was dealing with the same issue like Hop at the beginning of the video with my aero precision AR10. It was undergas until my gunsmith made a bigger hole for the gas to travel more. Which now my AR10 run perfect, despite it being a heavy girl lol
@MYDOGBUD
@MYDOGBUD 5 ай бұрын
Got a 5.9 lb Rogue and using a Riflespeed system with a Silencer Co Hybrid 46M ...I'm very pleased with the groups I'm getting and very reliable ...not had the problems Ruger SFAR owners had with the POF but then the Rogue cost more and it has a roller pin bolt and their G2 chamber extraction system that will run Chinese Lacquer coated steel case no problem as well...
@SA-xf1eb
@SA-xf1eb 8 ай бұрын
Hop, you are a gluton for pain and backpressure. I highly recommend a Hux. Love my Flow 556k. The 7.62Ti has great Pew Science results. You don't have to tune every gun you have if you use a Hux.
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
I have a 556k pending but I probably should have done the 762
@SA-xf1eb
@SA-xf1eb 8 ай бұрын
@@Hoplopfheil I love mine. You won't regret getting both. The Ventum with the Hub option might be a convenient option for you. Keep up the good work, Brother.
@A_Qwynide
@A_Qwynide 8 ай бұрын
Faxon carbon fiber handguard is suppressor width to help with gas regulator contact and helps with the whole "lightweight battle rifle/hunting rifle" concept. Id also say again that an OSS Ti can would be awesome on a system like this (yes OSS, I'll never call it that new hipster name - not even if there's a fire) Also I love the PA Micro5x - highly recommend. Tbf I'm cross eye dominant, so for me it's a ACSS red dot 90% of the time that I can close my dominant left eye and get some longer shots without having to LPVO from min to max magnification
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 8 ай бұрын
took me this long to realize OSS is huxwrx... i literally have 50% off discounts for them from working at a gun store but had no clue who TF they were. this is like when STI changed their name to staccato... lost all brand recognition
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 8 ай бұрын
that flashlight set up is slick. thats what im looking for, no fuss, no cables. simple light IF you need it, not in the way the other 99% of the time.
@IndustrialSociety1995
@IndustrialSociety1995 8 ай бұрын
Nerd. -Tarburz told me to say it. He has my family hostage. Please give this a heart react to free them from his grasp. :(
@CDOES
@CDOES 8 ай бұрын
Look at that hair. It's Magnificent!
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
Aw shucks, C
@CDOES
@CDOES 8 ай бұрын
@@Hoplopfheil 🥰
@wesleycameron1034
@wesleycameron1034 8 ай бұрын
I like guns that work out of the box. I don’t get you guys that like to spend twice as much as the gun cost just to get it to run.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. If it doesn’t work, return it for a check.
@NamedMyTaco
@NamedMyTaco 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Hop's comments always crack me up! Great video!
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 8 ай бұрын
the amnt of gas coming out of the bolt is pretty insane
@DKsupreme69420
@DKsupreme69420 8 ай бұрын
The lesson people should be taking away from these videos and others is the juice to squeeze ratio on .308/6.5cm platforms is abysmal. These things quickly turn into money pits. Assuming you think these might have merit as a DMR of sorts you have to ask yourself “what is this platform affording me over a dedicated 6arc rifle or upper?” The answer is very little IMO.
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 8 ай бұрын
I'm starting to learn why bolt action rifles are still a thing.
@leewilkinson6372
@leewilkinson6372 7 ай бұрын
Oddly, I snapped together a PSA ar 10 not long ago for around the same price. 20" barrel, and a heavy pig, but no failures to feed or eject at all in over 500 rounds. Likes 180 grain bullets for accuracy (standard 147s were all over the place) and it beat the hell out of a cheaper scope mount ( replaced, and an expensive lesson in scope mount quality there. I learn everything gt he hard way...) The small frame 308 is intriguing, admittedly, but I don't think anyone has ot dialed in yet.....unlike the ar 10 size frames.
@kwamesha3477
@kwamesha3477 7 ай бұрын
I was about to drop some cash for this item this month. This review was very timely so thanks for this video, look forward to seeing more.
@thenathanr4243
@thenathanr4243 8 ай бұрын
@3:06 Even with some modern weapons you need ye-old trusty ramrod. Well done on the video, hop.
@sirbalanced5486
@sirbalanced5486 8 ай бұрын
Sidebar: the Ruger 5.56 has been a solid choice for an entry level rifle
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
Even if it's over gassed-- it shouldn't rip the casing on extraction like that. Chris at SAS has a very good hour long video on buffers and buffer weights. Your issue is that it was trying to extract too soon, so the chamber still has very high pressure as the bolt is already trying to move. This is likely because the bolt is so light weight. So what you can do is add an H2 or even H3 buffer: what this does is add more inertia to the BCG and it will delay the acceleration of the bolt for just a slight moment which allows the projectile to have more time to exit the barrel, which will drastically drop the pressure in the chamber and that will keep the casing from getting stuck... The problem is TIMING-- not necessarily over gassed, but just that the bolt is too light. A heavier buffer would at least stop the casing from sticking to the chamber walls... You can get a 3 pack of tungsten weights from brnells for twenty-five dollen and just swap them in the buffer you have. Even though you already "fixed it" -- I would still do this anyway. It should keep you out of that window of high chamber pressure: to the point that it should never rip a case again, no matter what setting you are on.
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 8 ай бұрын
I’m pretty certain Bartocci said the buffer weight was tied directly to the barrel contour and was a way to reduce bolt bounce more than anything. At one point I had a S&W AR that would rip case rims off. Did it with CAR and H3 buffer alike.
@jonathansmith7306
@jonathansmith7306 8 ай бұрын
That doesn't make sense. The bolt's weight does not matter, it is locked in place until the gas system unlocks it.
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
@@K-bob_45 That's true. the inertia works in your favor in both directions.
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 8 ай бұрын
@@calholli I think it was more than inertia. I think by being a thicker contour you get a more elastic collision.
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
@@Stribogboi Most people just don't realize how integral the buffer is to the system working correctly. Granted, Ruger should have already tuned it correctly to begin with.
@patriotmjb
@patriotmjb 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Very helpful content
@SlavGuns
@SlavGuns 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Surprised to hear of so many gas issues but I believe it. Nice call on that new gas block. Only issues I had reliability wise was suppressed, so tuned a load for that. Accuracy wise, it's 308. Tested 6 or 7 different factory options... 7.62 ammo ranged from 2 to 3 MOA... 308 ammo was far better and was able to get consistent 1 MOA groups and no problem shooting the gun out to 750 yards. Just picked up the 6.5 CM and REALLY looking forward to stretching it out there.
@bghiggy
@bghiggy 8 ай бұрын
Hop, you're my favorite lesbian aunt guntuber
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