I'd rather see a delegator in the Whitehouse, than a dictator.

It's sad the way Biden is treated by the media. While Trump can't answer a single question or tell the truth one time. Yet he's treated like a competent candidate. 😢

To quote Prof Allan Lichtman: 'Debates have zero predictive value - Hillary Clinton won all three debates. I don't think this debate moved the needle one inch... Dropping Biden at this point would be a disaster for the Democrats. Media pundits have zero record in assessing what actually impacts election results.'

Over the debate stuff.. More concerned about solution for crooked Supreme. Thank-You.

I am so fed up with how people jump to conclusions based on what they think they see. Earlier tonight I listened as Keith Olbermann suggested that what we saw was quite possibly just an old guy with a bad cold suffering the effects of ordinary cold medicine, which is not unusual for seniors, and certainly no cause for alarm. Everyone needs to calm down.

Always stuck up for Mitchell whenever she stumbles on her own show, with viewers commenting it's long past time for her to exit ... so to hear her dumping over Biden - when she's showing her own advanced age herself. Not going to stay up just to listen to this crap.

Joe's not a great orator, but he's been a great president. We knew he was old when we elected him the first time

Andrea Mitchell? Who can barely get a coherent sentence out on live tv? Wow.

Maybe add the context that so far polling seems to show its made NO Difference to the numbers for Biden, but dropping the Orange Liar a point to a point and a half across a range of demos. So perhaps the usual "untouchable" effect that Trump gets the benefit of all the time has actually flipped a little, and the public have already priced on Biden's frailty and know they just dont want the alternative.

Trump kept bringing up the border constantly no matter the subject

I’m out. Done with debate discussion. And Andrea Mitchell really has no right to dis anyone else for verbal stumbles and seeming old.

The only way we keep our democracy is for us to have President Biden's back. We need to stop all this negative talk. Biden all the way.

Andrea Mitchell discussing this topic???

🤗🤗🤗🤗 Hi Harry 💙 We'll get through this. Have faith. Only ones I saw make a suggestion for him to step down were CNN and, shame on them, and Claire McCaskill which really surprised me!

If Andrea Mitchell is on I'm NOT watching. If you are bashing our competent decent President, I'm NOT watching. I expected better from you than this. Vote blue!

Stick with Biden.

Bidens fine drop your pearls and support him to the hilt.

Cnn should step down. Fact checking would have destoryed strump. Debatting a child who does nothing but lie. ✨💙✨🇺🇸✨

I am as disappointed with this podcast as I was with the debate, but I will continue to tune in, as I will continue to ride with Biden. My disappointment is the harshness against Biden for one debate that was not a debate. A debate is not a refutal of lies, no one can debate lies. Debates are about issues, and Donald Trump told lies without putting forth one issue that could be debated, and that should be the story, the lies. The fact is Joe Biden is doing a phenomenal job in spite of his age, partly because he has surrounded himself with intellectuals who know what they are doing and he will continue to do that for the next four years, if he is able to win the election when there are narratives like those presented in this podcast to contend with. Even with cue cards, Biden is able to command respect from the internaltional community and leaders. If Biden is unable to carry out his four years, he has a very able and ready vice president to take over that no one is addressing. Trump will not be governing, his cabinet will, and would you prefer those to Joe's cabinet? The tongue lashing that you all gave to Joe should have been reserved for the Supreme Court and the criticism given against Joe should have been equally levied against Trump, we cannot give him a pass while crucifying Joe. My last point is that none of you have a viable plan, so to put Biden in the pasture because he is old is irresponsible when we have no other viable alternative at this point in the election. Stop it. Change the narrative. We continue to ride with Biden.

VOTE JOE BIDEN: VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY: VOTE; VOTE;VOTE BLUE.

SCOTUS better not F up the immunity case because that will be the end. If they let it go, Joe should immediately imprison Gym Jordan for contempt of Congress.

What I saw during the debate were Moderators who didn't know how to do their job. They never held Trump's feet to the fire and made him stick to the topic and answer the question. I saw Biden wrestle with opposing thoughts of which lie do i respond to first or do I respond to the question or do I try to respond to both and ultimately sometimes his responses were a befuddled mixture of trying to do both. Yes Biden struggled, but you could tell he wanted to call Trump out with each lie as it was said but couldn't because he was following the rules. People say the it isn't the job of the Moderators to fact check but it is their job to keep the person on task to answer the question asked and the rebuttal is the time for a response to what the other person just said not a free range speech time. CNN failed all of us. A debate is Point and Counter Point... Voting BLUE all the way MAGA has to go...

I dunno if Biden was trying to avoid looking "jacked up" by not getting a good night's sleep and not having coffee, but the next day he was back to his rhetorical best. I am very angry at people ignoring a long distinguished career and the last 4 years of significant and important legislative wins and willing to chuck Biden overboard over a bad 90 minutes. Also, he was facing a firehose of dishonesty from the other podium. HE WAS NOT FADING AWAY THE NEXT DAY. What a bunch of fairweather friends the Dems turned out to be.

How fast people jump on the dump Biden wagon over one rough night. I’m guessing that some people might also unsubscribe from podcasts because of the negative reviews on that podcast. Sure President Biden had a rough night, that doesn’t erase everything he’s done.

Where’s your nerve? Now is not the time to lose it.

Okay heard enough if you people can't put this in context. He had just completed two not one but two trips from here across the Atlantic and back, D-Day and the G7, kept up with his duties when he was here, had a bad cold which sounded like bronchitis in North Carolina and the debate was way too late at night. Anybody here ever have that kind of exhausting 2 weeks? I say we give this President some credit!

The response has been anything but unanimous. Pundits, the NYT, and big media have one view, independent journalists (whom I trust more and more), and voters on FB Biden supporter pages as well as commenters on this very video have a totally different take. If what we saw on Thursday night were his daily demeanor, they never would have set up the debate. This was an anomaly, as anyone who really follows what Biden does every day (which the mass media does not) knows.

Harry, I generally like these Monday debates, BUT I don’t like all the negative comments about Biden’s debate!!

This is all crap. The ONLY way we're going to hang on to Democracy is to vote for President Biden.

Really Harry???? I'm disappointed in you. First of all, of course Andrea Mitchell is calling for Joe to step down even though she stumbles over her words at least as bad as Biden. He was sick, he felt like shit but still went to work. He had a bad night. Plus, why wasn't his mic turned up?? Maybe you should all be calling for Trump to step down. And Charlie Sykes can eff right off too. I'm done with all of you.

Who is the Superwoman or Superman swooping in to save the day? Biden is still my man 💙 He was marvelous just under 3 months ago at the State of the Union. He was on fire the day after the debate in North Carolina 🎉 Maybe the debate formula was subpar, and the moderators were useless?!

This isn't a problem of "just one bad debate." This has been a pervasive, ongoing concern among a lot of voters. This isn't even about Biden, it's about saving the rest of us from a fascist uprising.

Ok Im done after 2 minutes. It’s Monday and I’ve heard enough gloom & doom. Onward!

Painful/horrifying/ terrifying. Exhausting. Thanks to all of you for your courage. Please continue to tell it like it is. Respect. Please stay safe. From Denmark, an ally of the USA.

Biden was very tired and had been practicing a lot so it's not a surprise that his voice was weak. I understood his sentences, even the ones that got curved around

I think President Biden, as President, had done an excellent job. I personally like him. I hope he does not run. He is absolutely right that democracy is on the line and we can’t afford to lose it. I do not know what will happen at an open convention. But we have no choice at this point if we do not want a psychopath bent on retribution in the White House. Too much is at stake to not think hard about our choices.

I still stand with Joe!

Usually love this channel, but skipping this one. I choose not to listen to Biden negativity. There’s enough negativity in this era.

Debates are not part of a President's job. Joe Biden has proved that he is capable to comply with most if not all of the requirements of POTUS.. Vote blue, or do you welcome Trump's Project 2025?

Oh, Harry: your guests wailing & gnashing of their pearls (waiting on the garment-rending) by the Chattering Classes.. The vast majorty of us admire his exerience, candor, honesty, & intelligence even if he was napping. Biden has raised $51 million in 2.5 days. S much for te train wreck. And please, please leave Andrea Mitchell to answer her ever-so-busy phone instead.

I guess Im skipping this too. I believe Biden had rough night. Debatting a child out of control. He is a gentleman. I did not make 2 min of the actual debate. I could feel it was bad. Im riden with Biden✨🇺🇸✨💙✨💃✨

When Biden saves the world in November AGAIN i propose a spot on mount Rushmore for the saviour of the free world.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Stop! I’m more disappointed in you than I was in the debate!

Today's session was very informative and it was nice to hear different honest views and suggestions.Much appreciated.

Dems had 4 years to figure out a plan B. This is unforgivable. But par for the course with Dems. Unbelievable. I will vote Blue no matter who is the candidate. It's not about me. It's about the average, uniformed American voter .

The debate happened Thursday. Since then Biden did a powerful speech at Carolina and has met with donors. We have had polls showing the effect hasn't been so bad and people discussing with calmer minds have explored the possibilities of how Biden could step down and what could happen next. For the first time I find myself listening to the guests and being reminded of headless chickens. This never happens on a Talking Feds podcast - maybe you'd have been better just cutting that bit. Yes, the debate was awful and disconcerting, but the fall out will take weeks to work out. In the meantime Joe needs to be doing a lot of media and showing the energy he had in Carolina, while we look at all our options. I'm not so concerned that he needs a prompter. I remember George W giving a stinker of a speech without one. Most politicians can't tie their shoelaces without one.

Stop being so hyperbolic regarding the debate. It’s not helpful

All of you talking heads were the ones that were losing your minds. I have always watched your station because I thought you were up on everything, but the way you let our President down was terrible. You can rest assured I will NEVER watch again.

34:52 I agree, Harry. "That fresh face might have been roughed up a fair bit" You don't underestimate the risk of an open convention and I appreciate that.

Arrhggh what was Biden supposed to do? Be trump's foil and fact check every lie? How tf is that a debate?

It' always good to hear Charlie! I would recommend Rick Wilson's latest piece on The Lincoln Project channel as a less bed-wetty slant on the debate and a future path.

Yes, an open convention would invigorate the party and the interested citizens. I see no down side at all.

SCOTUS just gave the president partial immunity. The country is f’d.

I can’t even watch this. Glad I don’t have to worry about you having my back, Harry.

Biggest issue I see with Chevron that the Jordans, Boeberts, and Greenes cannot take time off from buffoonery to legislate. This could cause a vapor lock within a couple case decisions because of difficulties in governing details.

It was one debate. Not like we haven't had bad ones before. Work to get Biden's good work out there, knowing he will do more in the future. Don't hang someone for one night.

But is there someone else that the whole country knows & could believe in at this point who is younger & vibrant and could beat the criminal?

Disappointed in you, Harry, and your choice of guests. I stand with Biden, not the pathological liar!

I hope Jill and Nancy help Joe bow out with dignity and grace. Thank you for your service, Joe the GOAT.

Although I was horrified by Biden’s performance, it’s not enough for me to change my vote. As enamored as I am with the THOUGHT of an open convention, considering the REALITY of same gives me pause. It would indeed be a free-for-all, and I’m not sure the party, or the eventual candidate, would emerge stronger as a result. (1) The timeline for the campaign would be shortened [ala Hubert Humphrey in ‘68], (2) If Kamala Harris is not accorded the ‘respect’ of a candidacy, a cornerstone of the party’s would be fractured, (3) those attending a convention are the party faithful, the same ones who vote in part primaries, in other words, the extremists would be over-represented versus the more moderate, centrist, less involved persons who represent the majority of voters (at least before Trump happened). We need to remember why the nation moved from conventions to primaries in the first place (television media being a big part as well, I believe). On the other hand, it might be a good thing to tinker a bit with the process in a way that would allow the party convention to play a significant role in not only constructing the party’s platform, but selecting the candidate as well. Ranked choice voting has its appeal. So to, a fresh face -and vision for the future- would be welcome. In fact, I dare say, that a big part of the frustration voters feel with their current [lack of] choice is that both alternatives are rather backward looking; Trump wants to renew his attack on Democracy and will spend most of every waking moment plotting revenge upon his opponents/persecutors dating to 2020 and beyond; Biden reassures that the status quo will remain ‘steady at the helm.’ I can only imagine the desperation young persons must feel watching the climate change before our eyes, housing market tied up in knots by monied interests, the growing, even accelerating, disparities between rich and poor. The American Dream is under a host of threats, our government, particularly Congress, but now even the Supreme Court, seems either unwilling, or unable to stem the tide, and at times seems to be opening the flood gates. But insulin is now $35 a dose. We’ve lost our way, in part because we’re more likely to ask [or demand] what our country can do for us; but also because our leaders have not asked us to do something for our country, they all seem bent on ‘delivering’ to their constituencies because they’re not asking themselves the same question [‘what can we do for our country?’] many of them. The Book of Proverbs said it well [in condemning leaders], “Without vision the people perish.” We’re dying for lack of vision. We’re closing our eyes to reality; our ‘head in the sand’ mentality will wind up biting us in the behind. Off my soapbox. Have a good day/week.

Shame on you Harry for putting more negativity on Bidens back!

I'm generally a fan of Talking Feds and the Bulwark, but I didn't make it halfway through this exercise in tabloid journalism. Sorry, Harry.

The sad part about this discussion is this. Let's say the Dem's pull Biden off the ballot and replace him with Harris, or Whitmer, or Newsome or Shapiro. The truth is that each of the three esteemed guest panelists on this podcast, as well as all of their colleagues, have notebooks full of negative trash talking to dive into on any one of the possible replacements. All in the name of clicks, ratings, readers, watchers, etc. I'll tell you what, should Trump be allowed to sit in the White House again, there's a whole s**t ton of things "nobody has ever seen or heard before" that are going to happen. Thanks guys...

Jamie Raskin?? I love the guy- but we need a beeper to go off every time trump tells a lie- it’s too exhausting and time consumed by otherwise and whatever candidate you have will be overwhelmed😊

Nobody is looking at the actual content of what he said and what he has accomplished. It's one debate.

who on the panel was pushing back against the attempt to oust biden?

I'm a proud Biden voter 🌊

Hi Harry... For the first, this is overblown, then, this discussion was current 3 days ago, not in my play queue on Sunday night or Monday morning. Go Biden... Love your channel... Go Harry...

First of all Andrea Mitchell has no place on this show. Nobody bumbles and fumbles as much as she does. I’ll listen to the rest.

Sounds like a bunch of Trump reporters. If every president that bobbled a debate had this support, no president would be reelected.

In five words, the debate was: a turning point, either way.

As a voter, forced to choose between two weak elder candidates, I'll vote for the honest & principled Patriot over the self-interested cheater and convict. And...I have a hope that most voters will make the same calculation. Buck Up, Joe!!

yeah but Trump is not your guy so no matter WHO you put in - ........

What is this the Court of Debbie Doubters?

What debate did these people watch? Yes it was bad, but no where near as bad as they are professing.

I think all you downers on President Biden are so off. I'M grass roots. So don't tell me how grass roots responded. That debate changed nothing for me. And I think letting optics overcome substance is a tragedy in our modern society. I also think dividing the Democratic Party like this only serves to give Trump a greater chance of victory. Which is horrifying. I would never think it was possible if it hadn't already happened once.

I wouldn’t listen to Andrea Mitchell about age and performance with someone else’s ears. Biden is our nominee get over it.

It's a bit insulting to imply that "passing over" Kamala Harris is an unthinkable option. She's the VP. She'd be the second greatest player involved in the decision.

Good to see Charlie again.

The democrats could nominate a ham sandwich for president and I'd vote for it... as long as its opponent is Trump.

The problem with waiting until the convention to choose a new guy is, isn’t the Ohio deadline before the convention? Do you really want Ohio voters to HAVE TO write in whatever Dem candidate to vote for them? Pretty dangerous when voters may just vote by party.

The most cringe part for me was when Jill Biden talked to him after the debate. It was as though she was talking to a two-year-old who had for the first time pooped on the potty.

Thanks Harry! Keep doing what you do!

People in these comments have clearly never seen a once vital and vigorous elderly parent suddenly go downhill after hitting a minor bump in the road. The good days become fewer and far between. Joe Biden does not deserve to have the weight of the entire country on his shoulders at his age and current condition. Let's pay him the respect of letting him go out with his accomplishments and his dignity still mostly intact.

Think we need Big Convention entire Country.

Even assuming every concern you guys have - What is the best solution? Joe Biden at his worst is FAR better than Trump at his best. Is it really the best move to change candidates four months before election???

Thank you Harry✨🇺🇸✨💙✨

I feel like we’re going back in history and the King still holds the throne and his minions rule be the Church

I don’t think that’s right. Didn’t he just do over an hour with Howard Stern? 8:55

Read the title, not gonna bother with a listen. I don't have it in me.

The network make-up people need a lesson on how not to make a living human look like a corpse. He looked so pale.

The idea of an open convention just feels so refreshingly small d democratic.

I normally love Talking Feds, but I quickly decided to post my comment and switch to something else. It is insanity to suggest that Biden isn't up to the job. Very disappointed. I'm especially disappointed in Andrea Mitchell. This is just not helping the pro-democracy battle.

The chevron decision is horrible. The last place these decisions belong is the courts. The courts have become unelected partisans. The agencies report to the president, who is elected. The judges have a lifetime appointment, the absolute worst group to make political decisions.

I’m sorry Biden didn’t come out on a pony for people too many have become use to a circus when what we need are intelligent thoughtful people who are worthy of leading us, trump lost when the first lie left his mouth he answered zero questions, Biden answered every question no one could have refuted all those lies in a two minute timeframe I stand with Biden/Harris no one votes according to a debate anyone putting him down and saying he needs to stand down can flip right the heck off, I’m not listening to your nonsense

Pile on guys.

Why is no one bringing up Michelle Obama? Brilliant, measured, known, qualified. She has polled above Newsom as recently as this spring

For the good of the country and of MSNBC Andrea Mitchell should admit she's not up to her job any more.. The gall of this woman criticizing Biden. I haven't been able to watch a single full episode when she's the host. Can almost see the guest speakers wondering when she'll finally get her lines out so they can respond.

So in the sense of spreading out decision making to regulatory agencies, the current SCOTUS decision grants it now to the courts and effectively to themselves. And if Trump is elected, ultimately Trump. This decision is consistent with coalescing and consolidating power to an autocracy.

Odd you would have Andrea Mitchell talking on this particular topic given how many viewers are calling for her to step down, because she stumbles through every sentence on her newscasts. I agree with Ron Filipkowski's headline: "For the Good of the Country, It's Time for Some Pundits to Retire" I still support Biden.