The Original Game of Thrones Ending Revealed | This Would Have Been Far Worse!

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Welcome back for another Game of Thrones Season 8 video. In this video, I will be talking about Game of Thrones writers and showrunners, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss new interview with Variety. The new article states, “Game of Thrones” author George R.R. Martin first mentioned back in 2020 that there was once a plan to end the HBO series with a film trilogy designed for movie theaters instead of just another normal season of television. In a new WSJ Magazine profile, showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss confirmed this was actually their original plan for ending the HBO mega-hit. They wanted three movies instead of spreading the final 13 episodes across two seasons. This might be one of the dumbest ideas they've ever had. In my opinion, this would have made Game of Thrones' ending worse.
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@TalkingThrones 3 ай бұрын

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@TheHairOfElendil 3 ай бұрын

Hey what’s up? It’s Justin… Hope all is well!!

@BaronSaturday66 3 ай бұрын

Fully agreed. 6 hours would've been an even bigger disaster. The actors should have gone behind D&D's back and talked to the HBO people to get them fired. D&D are salesmen, not artists.

@npats550 3 ай бұрын

Were these all D n D ideas? Is it mean to say that them losing the "star wars", project they couldn't wait to go to, (hence S8), feels like poetic justice when they lost it? Schadenfreude moment? Thanks TT, for keeping us updated x

@pplr1 3 ай бұрын

It may have worked. Remove all of season 8 and someone is almost at that hour limit.

@cloudbloom 3 ай бұрын

The topic starts at 3:13

@prico3358 3 ай бұрын

Wow really. Thanks dude. Thats so disrespectfull to our time.

@tylerchapman9234 3 ай бұрын

Thank you

@pepe_nacho_5108 3 ай бұрын

Thanks

@1vasconia 3 ай бұрын

You're the real MVP

@btaylortv 3 ай бұрын

❤

@goodcitizen6193 3 ай бұрын

These guys proved they are not intelligent enough to write anything remotely good once they ran out of prewritten plots.

@Catherine.Dorian. 3 ай бұрын

Question is do we think Star Wars would’ve been worse or better under the two of them

@chadcognac5626 3 ай бұрын

@@Catherine.Dorian. Not a question. Obviously worse.

@vincent-zg2in 3 ай бұрын

creative hacks

@mkooij 3 ай бұрын

@Catherine.Dorian. star wars cant get any worse than it is in under Disney and D&D would have a library full of source material to choose from. So it would have been much better

@blletm6029 3 ай бұрын

s5 and 6 there is mostly or partly without book material and are the strongest seasons. So i disagreed, they are good writers. But s7 and s8 is so rushed and clearly they just wanted to wrap it up and it fucked it.

@Prospectgirl 3 ай бұрын

I cannot believe they had the balls to even admit to this horrendous idea.

@luckyhands4995 3 ай бұрын

they probly thought it couldnt get any worse xD

@XPsychowaffleX 3 ай бұрын

To hope it lessened the effect of the first bad ending

@strangebotwin- 3 ай бұрын

They just seem to not be able to help themselves. Goons

@Zaharra- 3 ай бұрын

Slam, bam, thank-you ‘mam. Can’t believe they actually admitted this. Did they think we would feel grateful? Read the room. Arg.

@superunknown2812 3 ай бұрын

Probably just said that to make people some what happy with the actual ending of GOT

@Crusader3455 3 ай бұрын

Imagine trying to leave game of thrones the best tv show they would ever work on so they can go make other movies no one will ever watch

@virtuaguyverify 3 ай бұрын

Crazy they knew anything would be better

@stephenfarrell-lt1kx Ай бұрын

they left to go do star wars then didnt get the gig XD

@allamericanslacker2378 24 күн бұрын

They were in talks with Disney about getting to direct Star Wars movies. That's why they wanted to end GoT as quickly as possible. Their mistake was they were so eager to move on to directing Star Wars that they screwed up Got so badly Disney walked away from the table.

@Creepy-Girl 3 ай бұрын

HBO is to blame for this as well. They should have pushed for D&D to leave the show and hand over the torch to someone else.

@syndicalistcat3138 3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Edmures_rampant_manhood 3 ай бұрын

Those clowns (d&d) own the rights to the series, as far as television is concerned. Even if HBO wanted them out, which they probably did, if d&d said no, there's nothing they could do about it. GRRM should have contractually obligated them to give him (Martin) the final say on all creative decisions, with GRRM being able to force them out if needs be.

@stevem2323 2 ай бұрын

Blame a lot.

@ms.anthropik 2 ай бұрын

I agree. It would've been better than butchering the last season.

@henrikandreason7261 18 күн бұрын

@@stevem2323 D&D deserves mountain heaps of blame, yes

@benjaminlazaro344 3 ай бұрын

I wanted to see the Kings Landing get invaded by the white walkers while Cersi was still there. After she rejected daenerys / Jon's plead for help. That would've been so satisfying.

@basilmcdonnell9807 3 ай бұрын

And Arya should have used the face trick to get Cersei.

@laurafabianmarrero 3 ай бұрын

Yes That would have been great

@benjaminlazaro344 3 ай бұрын

@@basilmcdonnell9807 I was thinking dracarys on Cersei whilst shes sitting in the iron chair and it melts away.. a bit gruesome but in line with GOT and its a symbol of 'breaking the wheel'.

@calvinm1866 3 ай бұрын

@@benjaminlazaro344 That sounds amazing. The Night King invading King's Landing sounds badass too.

@HouseoftheWerewolf 3 ай бұрын

I like the ideas that Winter eventually came for King's Landing but it wouldn't work because they have to invade the North first, then maybe a big battle at the Neck. When the river is frozen then The Reach and The Vale will have to fall in order for the white walkers reach King's landing.

@AKlover 3 ай бұрын

It indirectly tells you LOUDLY how little telephone and television execs think of their "Consumers".

@kmcd3020 3 ай бұрын

Hi Disney here 😂😂

@ayaNjah 3 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

@sparkfadingspark 3 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, I get that D&D wanted to leave to do other creative projects - it is not unheard of for showrunners to leave tv shows and new showrunners to step in. And that is what should of happened! My understanding is HBO would've been happy to let someone else take over, but D&D didn't want that to happen, and that's absolute bullshit. They wanted all the glory without putting all the work in, and they rushed out those last two seasons like a bad trip to the toilet.

@kallista5194 3 ай бұрын

Yes. It was loosely held together crap.

@aegontargaryen9322 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct

@chitterlingsrtasty 3 ай бұрын

Well they got the glory they deserved. I refuse to watch anything they are involved with.

@sawtooth808 3 ай бұрын

Put it this way, if a show’s writer announces he’s cutting off internet access for the day, and stockpiling on booze 🥃 24 hours before the finale, that should be a red flag 🚩

@dinahgraham4964 3 ай бұрын

Them or whoever took over would have gotten screw. GRRM hasn't finished the damn books. Imagine you've been given a roadmap to your destination and after 5/7 of the way there it's like figure it out so you end up here by the end. He has put out a book since before the show began. I think the fact that some seasons were taking 2 years is just burnout

@chadcognac5626 3 ай бұрын

Prewatch: Well, it can’t be worse. Postwatch: WTF

@sawtooth808 3 ай бұрын

I believe Dan or Dave stated on Twitter that D&D were cutting off internet access and stocking up on booze for watching the finale…24 hours before the finale aired. Can we say “Red Flag” boys and girls ? I knew you could

@daustin777 3 ай бұрын

D&D should have handed off the show to someone else that could have done it right. HBO & George should have demanded it.

@calvinm1866 3 ай бұрын

Agreed. It's too bad there wasn't a signed agreement saying they had to make at least 13 seasons if the show kept doing well.

@kallista5194 3 ай бұрын

@@calvinm1866yes, then they could have included all the plot lines, too. Arrogant scardy-cats.

@kolega427 3 ай бұрын

Or the house of the drago writers. They made a wonderful first season HotD

@pattitempleton1787 2 ай бұрын

Demand what? He can’t even finish his series.

@bobbymanganaro 5 күн бұрын

Yea how selfish can someone be to to take a job on you know is gonna be 7 or 8 years and than not fulfilling on it. Shortening the seasons even. And than to butcher the story I'll always love the show. The last few seasons and ending though are really a travesty. Especially since I found out not only did they rush it bit wouldn't let anyone else take over the show. Smfh lol

@shelleyscloud3651 3 ай бұрын

Wait, so there was a WORSE idea?!!! That’s almost impressive!

@movieman175 3 ай бұрын

What in the hell were D&D thinking? I need like a 10-part documentary explain to me how in the hell such an exceptional show could turn into what it did. Maybe in 10 or 15 years we'll get the real inside scoop on what the heck was really going on behind the scenes.

@mercykay6891 3 ай бұрын

I remain STUNNED that NOBODY- not wives/partners/ actors/ investors/ friends/ mentors? no one no body could advise D&D to hand this off to someone else?? As Tyrion said to Tommen; * What makes a king “good”? A king who is good _listens_ to his council!!!

@kallista5194 3 ай бұрын

Pride cometh before the fall. And they fell HARD.

@LiveGame555 3 ай бұрын

@@mercykay6891 Tywin*

@SableLeaf 3 ай бұрын

@@mercykay6891 , Tywin, not Tyrion. Tyrion was in prison at that time, and Tywin said this during Joffrey's wake.

@mercykay6891 3 ай бұрын

@@SableLeaf Yes! You are right about that! Tywin, yes indeed. ✅

@tyrannozilla 3 ай бұрын

They "kinda forgot" the definition of the word "ending."

@debravega2453 3 ай бұрын

Unless it was already in the books, they were awful when it came to pay-offs. Just had no idea how to do it.

@OhNoAlexxStreams 2 ай бұрын

Clever.

@user-hu5rm3if8e 3 ай бұрын

The fact these two are even allowed to continue making movies/shows is a disgrace, they should've been tried for treason (with Joffrey deciding their fate) for how they butchered the cultural phenomenon that thrones was. I mean just imagine how absolutely amazing the series could've been from start to finish if they were even half as passionate about the show as the fans were. I'm not even that mad with how the story played out, just how they rushed it so much the plot points didn't feel fulfilling.

@aegontargaryen9322 3 ай бұрын

I was mad at the rushing AND the bulk of the endings . So many story arcs destroyed . I think if I had watched the movies and they had been worse than S8 I would have imploded , S8 was torture enough

@allthatishere 3 ай бұрын

Bruh, wtf are you on about? Like, have you seen some of the stuff that's been released in the last 5 years? Live action Cowboy Bebop? Morbius and Madam Web? If the people who made these things are still in the industry, which they are, then wtf are we talking about here?

@user-wi9hv2pb2q 3 ай бұрын

that's how I feel about Peter Jackson and his atrocities against Tolkien.

@neth77 3 ай бұрын

@@user-wi9hv2pb2q Don't be a moron.

@andreduarte8372 22 күн бұрын

Joffrey: "In the name of the Seven, I hereby find you guilty of treason and sentence you to a maiming for life. Would you rather lose your hands or your tongues?" D&D: "P-please, have mercy..." Joffrey: "Ser Ilyn, take their balls."

@Kamihami_ 3 ай бұрын

After second season ended I used to rewatch all game of thrones seasons every year before the new season started. I also reread the books a couple of times. I loved this series so much. But after season 8 I haven't watched a single episode of GoT. It got totally ruined for me and it makes me so sad to think what could have happened. Probably still need a few years before rewatching the first four seasons.

@chaosiscoming9184 3 ай бұрын

first six seasons u mean

@lalarie831 3 ай бұрын

Me too

@chaosiscoming9184 3 ай бұрын

@@lalarie831 first six seasons :(

@joeydabbs1466 3 ай бұрын

The Night King Attack SHOULD OF been at least a full season

@mattkennedy6115 3 ай бұрын

Nah

@scottmccampbell72 3 ай бұрын

I can't believe anyone wants to hear anything Dan and Dave have to say about anything after what they produced the last few seasons of GOT. I'm surprised they even have a job. Movies would have obviously been worse than what we got, but there is no going below zero, so it probably wouldn't have made any difference.

@SHARKVADERS 3 ай бұрын

What D&D did the last season of GOT was horrible, but if they had done anything like what you talked about it would have been catastrophic.

@meawiyaothman7872 3 ай бұрын

Show went downhill after season 4 already. Season 7 was already garbage while 5 and 6 was still decent

@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686 3 ай бұрын

@@meawiyaothman7872yeah honestly. If they weren’t going to make an as accurate as possible version of the show, season 5 and 6 were still mostly solid. If they were always going to take out Faegon, then I can’t fault those two that much. But 7 and 8 were inexcusable no matter how much they had to trim from the source material.

@alexpiperhalliwell 3 ай бұрын

Its the TELEVISON SERIES not movies. Having a long lasting series is rare and rewarding in ideas to really hit. What we got is bad but planning to change a format is like they hated making this show. I would rather the show was longer with more character development and LOGICAL plot. Would be lovely if they werent afraid of the fantasy elements as well. I guess its too much to ask for but it would do wonders to the show.

@jackwitt7430 3 ай бұрын

Game of Thrones was the first truly long-term Fantasy tv show and even before it Fantasy as a genre didn't have a lot of respect before Lord of the Rings so both the studio and everyone who worked on the show took a risk by doing this series.

@alexpiperhalliwell 3 ай бұрын

@@jackwitt7430 I know but still they could bring in more magic not just for the convenience of the plot.

@jackwitt7430 3 ай бұрын

@@alexpiperhalliwell It's not like there is an abundance of magic in the books. Magic in the books is either very subtle or very dark.

@louis1681 3 ай бұрын

Imagine the hole plots of the last 2 seasons being brought to us in tik tok form we live in some dark times😂😂

@Bhoddisatva 3 ай бұрын

Battlestar Galactica and Lost used webisodes to great effect. But they were used to fill out corners of their settings that the main show had no space for. Not as a substitute for the actual hour long TV programs!

@Lone_Wolf_LT 3 ай бұрын

I wish they continued filming another few seasons and finish the story as George had in mind.

@craigturner6565 3 ай бұрын

Why? George still isnt done?

@sawtooth808 3 ай бұрын

@@craigturner6565 At some point, you can only stretch a deadline so far. IMHO, George R.R. should have looked at D&D’s pitch, and said “sorry, no dice”. We wouldn’t have gotten a Game of Thrones show, but it would have saved a whole bunch of headaches

@Dru2037 3 ай бұрын

George didn't have anything in mind which was the problem.

@nummulite99 3 ай бұрын

Even GRRM doesn’t know how it’s going to end lol. But you can be sure he won’t make it end like the show!

@Torfmoos 3 ай бұрын

@@nummulite99did hGRRM realy think he will finished it and if yes, why didn t he do so?

@tadertotjo11 3 ай бұрын

I think we were robbed with the way Cerci died. We deserved so much more.

@dizzle1119 3 ай бұрын

At this point I just hope to see a "remake" in another 15 years or so. EDIT: Movies could have been far superior to what we received.

@dasnyds00 3 ай бұрын

Ya know, thinking about it, there's probably only about 6 hours of real material in the final two seasons. Chess pieces were set, the flashpoint was there, and all that was really left were some loose ends ready to get singed closed in a really big fight. I hate what happened with seasons 7 and 8, but maybe (just *maybe*) some of the awfulness really did come from dragging it out.

@shadow_realm47 3 ай бұрын

4 movie remake would actually be good. Movie 1. The setup, Jon brings everyone together. Movie 2. Long night. Movie 3. Dany brutally murders Varus, Cercei and Jamie. Movie 4. Fallout of that, a proper epilogue to setup the next movie.

@therealheisenberg6182 3 ай бұрын

So why would Dany have to descend into madness? Just because there was a mad king doesn't mean there had to be a mad queen. She could broken through and become a liberator for the entire world and someone like John or whomever could sat on the throne. Yeah I know too simple.😢

@user-hs8co3fn4q 3 ай бұрын

In 15 years I will probably be dead. Please get this done before then.

@user-wr2bo6us3q 3 ай бұрын

Imagine reviving the series olders? 👀

@brysonfreeman7226 3 ай бұрын

I personally agree with you, I don’t like the idea of Benioff & Weiss thinking the last few seasons of Game Of Thrones would be mini movies after Season 6, but I think who I even trust more is: the Duffer Brothers in Stranger Things and George R.R. Martin himself

@sparkfadingspark 3 ай бұрын

They are desperate to get back on the good side of the fans (especially with their new show coming out) but they still fail to realise that every time they open their mouth they make it worse. I still remember that BTS of episode 8x04 I believe where one of them was like "oh Dany just forgot that Euron had his fleet". Uh, no, Dany didn't forget, it's obvious YOU forgot you morons.🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

@bellanovela7742 3 ай бұрын

if they wanted to leave so badly why didn't they just leave and give the job to someone else what they did was selfish, and they deserve all the critisism

@kevinwheesysouthward9295 3 ай бұрын

I still can’t believe what they did to that show. It was the greatest entertainment vehicle of all time. It had everything. They already had the lore. The world was built. They had fantastic characters with developed character arch. They just disregarded it all. It was such a disappointment. Their show Three Body Problem has a pretty cool premise. I don’t think I’ll watch it though because I just don’t trust those two.

@uinen9029 3 ай бұрын

After all the years it is still painful to watch this two 🤡🤡! Not possible for me to watch a interview with them.

@gildardorivasvalles6368 3 ай бұрын

While I didn't hate the last season of the show, I do agree that it was rushed. The basic premise of the ending I thought was OK, but I thought it was poorly executed. It could have been so much better, I agree with that.

@Prof16440 3 ай бұрын

I don't think I'll ever watch another project they make.

@johniekilroy2825 3 ай бұрын

6 hours of torture sounds better than 13 hours of torture lol. All they would have done is the same sorry, and took out all the horrible filler. Like when Tyrion walked across the burned Kings Landing for 15 minutes lol.

@uinen9029 3 ай бұрын

🤣

@lordmarshfield4836 3 ай бұрын

I have held off on my criticisms of these producers for a really long time, mostly because I just wanted to see the story. The ending was horrible but I assumed I was being greedy because how often does something like this actually come along? Never. Was it budget? Time constraints? Nope, they got bored. Lesson learned. Will never watch anything they produce again. That said, thanks for the videos you do! The community of people who love these things eventually get what they want but not from the commercial channels but from those who love it too-- Blessings of the Seven Upon You.

@JakeSezz 3 ай бұрын

I’ve always been on the “I don’t hate how it turned out, but that was WAY too rushed and not fleshed out” boat. I think the majority of the endings would’ve been a little more understandable with the correct amount of time & care put into the landing of the plane. But alas!

@stephengrant4841 3 ай бұрын

Yeah the bones of the ending are good, and probably how the books will end - which is why, book purist I am, that I like it. The development was too quick however and due to things from the books they omitted, a lot of the ending doesn't make much sense.

@annie-sc 3 ай бұрын

SAME. The last season was so underdeveloped and rushed. I still remember when someone on social media leaked the major plot points in the last season before it was released. While most of it were acceptable and actually made sense (at least to me, having read the books), the dialogue quality noticeably declined as compared to the earlier seasons.

@johnnyturner1789 3 ай бұрын

This show could've been ranked #1 for decades to come, now we'llthink what if...thats the tragic part

@justinsmithing 3 ай бұрын

A vertically shot series sounds like a horrible idea. Do they not realize these phones can turn sideways? 😅

@kdub2627 3 ай бұрын

This channel is really growing. I remember when you just started ❤

@buddhastl7120 3 ай бұрын

It’s crazy to me how well they did at picking the music, casting, battle scenes, dialog, etc. then when it came to writing post-GRRM’s material they had the ability of your average toddler.

@Deriv44 3 ай бұрын

Game of thrones was the series every one wanted too watch on the day it aired to not get spoiled the next day or even a few minutes after the episode ended . It didn't need any mini episode but maybe a minie series about Robert Rebellion would have been nice

@internziko 3 ай бұрын

I guess they kinda forgot about HBO standing for "Home Box Office"

@aegontargaryen9322 3 ай бұрын

We should have been looking forward to the final season by now , one which JON SNOW takes out the night king after a multi-season white walker invasion . The only good thing that came from S8 was that it cost DandD a fortune and that Star Wars contract

@getmotivated1707 5 күн бұрын

Dude, nice af timing, ive been looking for a math resource ❤

@eddiemcgrath8536 3 ай бұрын

It needed a feature length back story on the rise of the night king and his reasons for marching on the south, his true loves remains being entombed at Winterfell...turning the villain arc on its head.

@michaelmatthew6019 3 ай бұрын

They should've started with Aegon's conquest THEN they wouldn't have ran out of book material.

@Blakerzzzz4 3 ай бұрын

This is like a “be greatfull for what you got, it could’ve been worse” 😂

@UnswimmingFishYT 3 ай бұрын

Shows are really the ideal format to put any visual story in. An episode is typically long enough to carry a plot well without feeling like too much sitting, which many movie watchers have a problem with in 2-hour sittings. They also provide the convenience of watching the number of episodes that fits an individual's schedule best, and have far more time in which to fill out a story without it necessarily feeling longer. To make it even better, a show can really take it's time building a lot more depth to characters and worlds, where a movie just has to be carefully planned to be fully self-contained in what's happening in what rarely goes far past 2 hours. The length and time distribution of shows compared to movies or even "mini-episodes" is just too much of an improvement to be a fair comparison. A movie can still be great and all, but most of the best stories in film are shows due to just how much they can put into it. The ceiling for quality is drastically higher.

@XPsychowaffleX 3 ай бұрын

They need to reshoot the final season.

@MarcoInaros-ns7ut 3 ай бұрын

Too late sadly

@Lennart3871 3 ай бұрын

Season 7 as well

@chaosiscoming9184 3 ай бұрын

@@MarcoInaros-ns7ut it's not too late... they could bring everyone back, it's not like all the actors have age poorly enough or anything

@MarcoInaros-ns7ut 3 ай бұрын

@@chaosiscoming9184 no but many of them have move on too something else,and if they were available it would still make no sens to remake a hole new season 8,we cant just erase what we saw got from our mind sadly,for me the best solution if they wanted to salvage something from this mess is to make a movie where we discover that the night king didnt really die but he is still there inside bran du to the mark he left on him ,just like sauron and the ring if you want ,and from that go whit a final mysterie to solve by our beloved characters

@helalalakel3072 3 ай бұрын

Nice work❤

@ajwinberg 3 ай бұрын

Even as bad as it could have been, I am so glad that they didn't do movies.

@karenlp5867 3 ай бұрын

It seems like the writers stopped caring about the show altogether in the last couple of seasons. At that point, they should have given it over to someone else, and I don’t understand why they didn’t. I also don’t understand why the execs at HBO allowed the show to end so much sooner than it should have, and in such an unsatisfactory way. It was so popular you’d think they would want to make more seasons out of it, if only to get more profit from it.

@sandrajones5857 Ай бұрын

I am just now watching season 8. I have so enjoyed benge watching each hour long segment. I have watched hours of interviews with the different actors from Game of Thrones on You tube videos. i have really enjoyed this show. I will hate to see it end. but I am glad I got to see more segments, instead of just 3 long two hour shows. you did a good job of reporting on how it got made. thanks.

@ygr6484 3 ай бұрын

I actually think a movie or trilogy of films could've been cool. Seeing GoT on the big screen would've been hype and could have gotten MCU numbers. In addition, I believe the Others' invasion of Westeros could've made it to Kingslanding in this version due to cinema's grander stakes. The White Walkers would've been the final conflict instead of Cersei vs Daenerys

@chaosiscoming9184 3 ай бұрын

Are u their D and D child? 13 hours didn't work, how the F**k do u think six hours would of worked -_-

@justjet175 3 ай бұрын

The fact that they were given free reign over 3 Body Problem after their chop job of Game of Thrones is terrifying.

@thalianox2492 3 ай бұрын

We need an animated series or something to fully adapt the books. I would've loved to see Dorne done justice and Lady Stoneheart

@crystalias2546 3 ай бұрын

I think there’s comics being made that are doing that… but I could be wrong, though. That, and I think it’s still adapting the second book.

@FMonou 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like they just wanted to do movies. I would of respected them a lot more if they just told HBO they we're tired of writing this and they didn't want to produce below quality episodes. A clean cut is better then what they did.

@shadow_realm47 3 ай бұрын

They could do 5 minuite anthology videos for street soldiers/minor houses pov for all the rushed battles like the prologue pov set ups to the books. And film 25-30 of those. Dorne, Brotherhood without banners, Bells battle, Golden company, Euron,Reach houses, iron bank, Varus, LF would have benefited a lot from that.

@user-sl6gn1ss8p 3 ай бұрын

yeah, inconsequential bonus stuff which wouldn't need a lot of involvement from the whole writer team and could be done at least partially during down-time could be nice. Maybe sprinkle them out in between episodes or seasons or something.

@DakotaFord592 3 ай бұрын

I used to have so many fantasies about this show. The craziest part is that during the off time... When there would be so much speculation about what would happen or what might happen. That actually ended up being better than the real show!! The what if scenarios... The show has so much potential... So much!! I was so excited to see King's landing get invaded by the white walkers. I saw the huge siege in my head!! I imagined season 8 being 30 episodes long!! That is not what we got.

@AB-ee5tb 3 ай бұрын

The three body problem is one of the coolest sci fi stories ever written. I pray to god they don’t absolutely butcher it. I had no idea that was the show they were making on Netflix. I’m heartbroken 😂

@JeremyBurch-td7no 3 ай бұрын

I won’t watch a single second of it… not even a trailer

@almVancouver 3 ай бұрын

I really don't think the blond queen had any good reason to go mad. She had many years and tribulations to prepare herself. Or are we just gonna blame biology?- Seems an easy way out.

@SergentJConn 3 ай бұрын

This issue is so complex. I think actors wanted to be done, ATT tried to take over, no more source material, Dave and Dan loosing their touch all contributed

@blkprophet7685 3 ай бұрын

In 30 years, i can see the series being remade

@EricJohnson-yu6fv 3 ай бұрын

As a true fan, I enjoyed the series it allowed escape from reality the bills all the mundane problems of life it’s sad that it ended

@poppy1057 3 ай бұрын

For me, it's always been how quickly the white walkers ended, all the build up for such a rushed ending.

@ajaydattani1994 3 ай бұрын

Fact 1 : If game of thrones were never made, we would have received complete A song of ice and fire series by now. Fact 2: But if it was never made I could have never came to know that something called A song of ice and fire exist in this world.

@gups4963 3 ай бұрын

I would strongly advise for an ending like the Dune series have, Martin wont finish it.

@mycenth22 2 ай бұрын

Who is speaking in the beginning of the clip? Where is that from?

@Kelson01 29 күн бұрын

it’s littlefinger from one of the early seasons I think

@saelind73 3 ай бұрын

This isn't a revelation. This is something that it was talked about it at the time.

@MissKashira 3 ай бұрын

Me before the video: There is no way it could have been worse than what they actually did. Me after the video: Oh wow, that's actually worse...

@The79thElement 3 ай бұрын

Ok. It’s a bit of an assumption to say 3 movies would have been 6 hours. Think about Lord of the Rings. Each movie is 4 hours plus which would have made GoT 12 hours if they had followed that template, just one hour less than the series. However, which ever way they had done it still would have had the same problems. It needed another series as we all know.

@paulgreen2401 13 күн бұрын

Agreed. Strange as it sounds, we should be thankful that it ended as (well as) it did, and although I feel the same way most do about the final season and the two seasons prior to a certain extent, I still rewatch A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms from time to time. It's unusually upbeat and hopeful for a GOT episode, and it's one of my favourite from the entire show. I also appreciate the tension in the build-up to both The Long Night and (ahem) The Bells. What follows, not so much, though.

@S1L3NTG4M3R 3 ай бұрын

THANKS

@gtc4692 3 ай бұрын

They should have stopped at season 5 and told George we’ll start up again after you release the next book which might give us another couple seasons and then we’ll stop again until the last book comes out. Maybe that would motivate him.

@julia-6195 3 ай бұрын

They would've needed to have done them like the LOTR trilogy: 3 hr Cinematic release w/ 4 hr extended cut for home.

@taramama6658 3 ай бұрын

What was so sad to me is it really didn’t even matter when it was revealed Jon was the true air

@mmeade9402 3 ай бұрын

It depends on what a "snackable" episode is. If they mean a 10 minute youtube style episode, I would be down for that for some of the side quest stuff. There was a lot of stuff that happened off screen that could have seen a 5-15 minute "mini" episode. Side characters. The stuff going on with Gendry while he was "rowing" or what was Beric up to. The journey for Barristan Selmy, the decision and journey from Kings Landing to Essos to meet up with Dany. Some of the negotiations between Varys, and the Sand Snakes, or more of the Sand Snakes consolidating power after they killed Doran? etc etc, lots of stuff.

@ElMaestroGordo 3 ай бұрын

Cinematically, I don't think there was much wrong & it was stylishly done in episodes. I kinda foresaw that you could only conclude such a sweeping vista & panorama of a show by burning it all down, including the Iron Throne. It is what the Romans did with Kings in the end: they're too despotic and irredeemable to continue. It is a "Song of Ice and Fire" and so ice & fire had to both recede in the winter of the Long Night before spring could bloom. *My one sadness is how they betrayed Daenerys as a character, but perhaps that is the tragedy of playing the Game of Thrones? You either win or you die as Cersei said. She couldn't win in Westeros as she had in Essos like a beloved liberator and breaker of chains. The series ended as how it began in Season 1 with House Stark and the next generation trying to do better than their forefathers.

@bobbymanganaro 5 күн бұрын

Used to listen to this page about GOT. Now im back. Thx to HOTD. Thx for all the work u put in

@REALLYEPIC 3 ай бұрын

At this point it doesn’t even matter, they butchered the ending…

@videostoryanalyses8910 3 ай бұрын

They are writers of the 3 body problem. Not the only writers thankfully.

@jackwitt7430 3 ай бұрын

Movies would have been a disaster. This show had issues from step 1, the last thing it needed was all of the problems of movies in addition to the problems of a long-term fantasy show.

@mayacarraway8953 3 ай бұрын

Explains why the entire last season felt weird. Truly felt like they tried to split a movie into episodes

@nubianentertainment8046 3 ай бұрын

Game of Thrones could have been a great movie. The two guys who did the show I would not let them do the movie

@cat67834 3 ай бұрын

Also, before the last series came out, I seems to remember there being an article where one or both of them had said "I'm not that whatever about game of throne"' or something. I can't remember the exact word but it was about the new series and sort of implied they were maybe a bit worried/not sure about it. I tried to find it since but couldn't.

@VampireQueenBrittany 3 ай бұрын

It could've been worse, such as killing every single main character left in s8.

@eibbor171 3 ай бұрын

but that whats makes game of thrones, game of thrones there's actual consequences to actions and characters you once hate can become characters you love later also killing every main character would've been so much better as long as it made sense like cersei getting killed by bricks really let me ask you this would you rather see again for the first time brick death or cersei watching her family being torn limb from limb from the dead as she helplessly watches cause she ignored jon and danys warning your gonna tell me brick death is better then that ? gtfo

@Prodigalzson 3 ай бұрын

George could have just finished the damn books. I'm just sayin'. What is the opposite of "rushing" the ending. We don't really know how to compare B & W 's ending because we still don't have the real ending. As much as B&W f'd this up, George did as well.

@getmotivated1707 4 күн бұрын

I kinda like the idea of snackable mini episodes IF, and only if, it was non essential character focused, or worldbuilding without consequence to the main story. That could have been fun extra content.

@andocromn8755 3 ай бұрын

Why HBO didn't just replace them is beyond me

@ShadowCrow8 3 ай бұрын

Epic Intro!

@BrickProductionshome 3 ай бұрын

Any production company that hires these two idiots are in for one hell of a nightmare. Honestly, this is so disastrous that you could probably make a pretty awesome documentary on this. "The fall of Game of Thrones and the writers who did it." Screw it. HBO Could come out with that one themselves. It's really amazing to me.... It's amazing to me how much of a phenomenon this series was shaping out to be, then falls flat on it's face, dead in a ditch. That's really incredible that you can be that incompetent to come out with that outcome.

@bigdav47 3 ай бұрын

Martin cannot even finish his own novels, that's why they had to make it up.

@nessa2481 3 ай бұрын

There were so many ways to show greatness! Yet they managed to mess it up so much! & they had 2 concepts for ruining the series! Wow…

@jonbrown8698 3 ай бұрын

They quickly went from being the most praised Directors to being the biggest jokes in Hollywood.

@LogicalThinking210 3 ай бұрын

Looking at the decisions, its clear that the show runners wanted to move into movie making instead of series as their next step. It makes sense in how they cut things short and were going towards Starwars, which screwed things for them. They could have always let someone else take over for a season or two, while they did something else. They were on top of the world and could have made any decisions they wanted, as long as that decision wasn't to disappoint and outrage the fanbase.

@clownpendotfart 3 ай бұрын

They wanted seven seasons even before the Star Wars deal.

@cecem.9921 3 ай бұрын

This video in a sad and heartbreaking way… gives me some closure about S8.

@kathleenthach7552 3 ай бұрын

I would just settle for them green lighting Snow.

@omkhape4660 3 ай бұрын

Background music name please

@ToneDesh 3 ай бұрын

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

@unctuouszeppo 3 ай бұрын

A 3 movie event would only work for the very last of the series. Like the final 3 events. But have to remember what makes Game of Thrones great was the dialogue, characters, mystery, & the politics

@SkyShazad 3 ай бұрын

i agree with everything you have to say

@ARKdeEREH 3 ай бұрын

I thought it would have made sense for the white walkers to survive as a people and to either negotiate a treaty or bend the knee to Daenerys after the Night King's death. Just because the Night King wanted to conquer all humans doesn't mean that all of his people felt the same way. I remember from the books that a white walker woman had a romantic relationship with a member of the Night's Watch thousands of years before the story began, so that implies that white walkers were capable of peaceful interactions with humans. Had the white walkers bent the knee to Daenerys they could have accompanied her army when she went after Cersei and the area north of the wall could have become the 8th kingdom of Westeros.

@mankind8088 2 ай бұрын

VERTICAL TIC TOC GOT 😭🤣🤣😭😂🤣😭🤣🤣😭

@robertross5201 3 ай бұрын

This information is why I’m so stoked to see Henry Cavil as a producer for the Warhammer 40k projects. Having a fan of the original material in a position of authority in production goes a long way towards protecting the integrity of the original material.