The only good thing about Wales 20mph limit is it means the end of the Labour Parties dominance in Welsh government.

People who simply don't know what they're presiding over, is endemic in British life.

Stupid people means you get stupid policies.

How about we save everyone time and money and hold these petitions BEFORE a few people dictate to millions? We are supposed to be a civilised democratic society yet are expected to allow petty dictators like Khan and Drakeford make rules up on a whim and expect us all to obey them. 350,000 have said they don't want to obey them.

Listen to Quentin carefully. He’s an electric car zealot. He is NOT a friend to the majority of motorists. Anyone who thinks electric cars are better for the environment is living in a fantasy land.

The crazy thing in Wales is there are arterial roads (B roads) through town & villages that are now 20mph, you can turn off into a single track lane with passing places that are still open speed limit (60mph), no one in their right mind would attempt to drive at 60mph along such a lane but it just goes to show it’s all about control of the population not safety.

I lived in Switzerland and they had variable speed limits outside schools that only applied on school days. Everyone adhered to that because it’s was sensible. Weekends and holidays were standard speed limits… worked a treat

I just did 40mph on the M4 for about 10 miles for no fucking reason

"I don't think we can go with "It's a money making scam"". Of course it is.

They used to teach children to cross the roads safely instead of giving them idea they can walk straight across roads

Electric cars are dangerous to pedestrians as they are silent.

Another big problem with these new 20 mph restrictions is the anger it is causing between motorists, you have the cars travelling at 15-16mph and then you have the ones in a hurry who will tailgate and overtake with total disregard to anyone else! The level of driving standards has dropped drastically since this idiotic introduction and it HAS to be put a stop to!

Never mind history, Drakeford's degree, from a second rate university, is in Latin! Why is it that there's such an incredible shortage of politicians with a maths, science or engineering degree?

Over 400k now, that's alot of people.

Quentin is talking BS " It's a conspiracy theory" WRONG it's all about raising money yet again from the motorist.

Quentin can’t be described as not biased towards electric vehicles. Ignoring the addition carbon generated in their production just doesn’t work any longer. Not to mention the child/slave labour used to mine the minerals used to produce the batteries.

Actually we have cyclists making the rules for motorists and pedestrians.

For Quentin to say there aren't no cameras on motorways is deluded there are loads round here m6 m42 m5 we have speed limits imposed every day but it works well

who remembers the green cross code? when I was a kid we were taught yo look for cars before walking into the road

Britain is over populated and to meet our green targets we need a cull. I propose we drive around at max speed and anyone we hit and kill, we get 10 points for. If a person gets 300 points they get a free gallon of petrol, but if within that 300, they take out 10 politicians then get free petrol/diesel for a year. Driving through an illegal migrate camp and wiping out 300 migrates gets you a weeks all expenses paid holiday in Wales where you can aim for certain Welsh MPs to gain extra points that go towards a holiday in NI or Scotland. Don’t knock it, it’s as good a suggestion as the rest of the crap they are coming up with, and unlike current rhubarb, it will solve some of our problems. Now where Drakeford, brum, brum…..

We had a Prime Minister (Theresa May), who has a Geography degree, say no more. The time has come for every elected representative to have an IQ of 120 or more.

It's pretty hard to do 20. It's too slow.

You know what happen in the pandemic and the advice the scientists where giving out and the mess that got the country in. It’s also about honesty and trust.

If youre so crap at crossing the road that need a 20 limit you shouldnt be out without your carer.

Common sense is becoming historic

What nobody cares to understand is that the amount of revenue which this will bring is millions. It wont be difficult to go even one mile over the limit and youll get a fine

Quintin talking crap as normal stop throughs in electric cars.

It all makes fuel consumption and pollution even worse, let alone people's temper.

The default built-up area/residential roads speed limit in Australia is 31 mph.

20 is fine down country lanes and outside schools but it shouldnt be a blanket limit in Wales. I also think it should only apply during daytime hours i.e. 8am - 6pm. Theres very few pedestrians or children strolling around over night and to be forced to do 20 when theres absolutely nobody around is ridiculous. Also what happened to the green cross code for kids? Kids should be taught from an early age how to behave around traffic. They are being brought up to believe they can cross the road whenever and cars should stop for them.

4:50 slowing people down actually means *more* emissions. Try traveling at 1cm per day and see how many tanks of fuel it takes to travel a mile

How many lives are going to be lost due to ambulances/fire brigade or police not able to get through?

Politicians deciding policy on motor vehicles who commute into London from the burbs by train or live in London. Never use cars and don't drive. What do they care about those who live in the country and are reliant on their cars and don't have public transport. Another example of the total disconnect between politicians and the British public they claim to represent.

Our milkman moans that the paperboy overtook him on the road. 😂

We had a chancellor who studied classics. No wonder he hadn’t a clue

They say less injuries at 20mph, but do they still teach road safety like I did whilst in school.

This Doctor, what on earth does she know about politics and why is she not striking for Keir anyway ??????????

How about pedestrians taking responsibility for their own actions by "watching where they are walking" instead of looking at their bloody phones all the time.

Speed limits are based upon forward visibility distances and whether there are accesses along the route. If you cant see someone approaching and pull out, can they stop in time? Transport planners are mainly geography students and only know how to get to work (the boss said that!) And they also fudged every speed survey i did, knocking off the counts until they got the result for the planning officer to not be able to object, for the speed of the road and the amount of extra traffic. Theyre all responsible for the speed tables/cushions/humps that emerged and most the time they werent actually needed

And when drivers stop hogging the 3rd Lane on motorways, holding up other users, forcing users to illegally under take. Let’s get back to the proper usage of the lanes. Pull out to overtake only. Then back to your lane. Not sitting in lanes because, you can. Our driving instructors, are to blame, in so many ways.

Quentin pushing electric cars again, its like he's being paid to do so. What a complete sell out.

Quentin Wilson just flew back from Vancouver. Total hypocrite 🧐

Dear old Quentin, he’s lost his “Barnet” as well as his “marbles”.....

Nothing new. Barbara Castle, Minister of Transport 1965-1968, never had a driving licence. Electricity is not a fuel, it is an energy storage medium, and it isn't actually efficient. She has lots of cats. Quelle surprise!

Maintaining a speed of 20 miles per hour requires the driver to continuously apply both the brake and gas pedals. The problem arises when the speed hovers around 35-40 mph, with a margin of error of 5 to 10 miles per hour. This condition leads to increased gasoline consumption and at least a 70% rise in MP 2.5 particulate matter, as the brakes are constantly regulating this very narrow margin. Additionally, tire friction against the asphalt (the pushing carpet effect) generates more particulate matter. Increasing cost of infrastructure, maintenance and operation. Implementing a 20-mph speed limit in urban areas with closely spaced street crossings is stupid, regressive, counterproductive, and contradicts established traffic engineering norms. It perpetuates a state of constant acceleration and braking, diminishing the advantages of vehicles thus approaching the serious limitations of bicycles. At that speed it makes no sense to own an automobile…the result of which is catastrophic for human civilization since absolutely all and everything depends on mobility. Governments are imposing regressive measures on their citizens. Politicians often resort to taxation, punishment, and citizen abuse instead of providing solutions. Mobility is the backbone of the global economy; this should not be hard to grasp. Governments rely on oil-related taxes, yet they harm their own sources of revenue. The concept of an 'Unsustainable Mythic Green Transition' goes against the laws of physics, specifically the second law of thermodynamics, which states that true sustainability or net-zero is unattainable. To achieve sustainability, every single input, from individual components to entire systems, must also be sustainable without energy losses. Thermodynamics tells us that this is impossible - it's called 'entropy. Entropy is a thermodynamic measure representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work. It is often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. The second law of thermodynamics dictates that entropy always increases with time.

Here is a thought if the speed limit is set at 20 could that impact on insurance premiums as in a reduction

This all about control and another cash cow as they know their will be many many more speeding fines. Do they still do road safety in schools still if they don’t maybe they should

Anti car, legacy hunting, net zero zealotry.

The problem is the cycling lobby is in all transport departments

I am waiting for someone to mention that with the introduction of electric vehicles which are reported to have 30 to 50% extra mass than a comparable ICE car. Do the kinetic energy sums ie 1/2MV^2 they need to take speed down to ensure you are less likely to be seriously injured if hit. However no one wants to mention that in case it impacts the introduction of electric cars. Also reducing emissions yes there maybe less emissions if a exhaust gas analysis is done but the time taken will be longer and it is doing the same amount of work to take that mass from A to B. Then you hear the arguments oh the slower it is the safer it is. So there must be some sort of safety risk assessment available that weighs up risk against an adverse outcome that can be quantified. These are all well developed engineering design principles. That’s why we have ALARP so you can develop safe practices optimising adverse outcomes whilst undertaking any task. Instead we have politicians that develop policy based on social media statement they think are popular so they can virtual signal. Not convinced there is open and clear joined up policy making by people that know what they are doing.

New 20mph limit on the A329 Little Milton. Cars take longer to pass through the village. All the traffic bunched-up. MORE polluting. It must be hell for the residents.

Sadiq Khan is NOT interested in pollution, just money.

No you don’t have to have it at all.

When I was young I was taught that roads were for cars and pavements were for pedestrians. I was also taught that before crossing the road I had to watch for cars because they had right of way on the road. It was a simple, logical, hierarchy that follows natural law where the smaller gives way to the larger. As a result, I've never been hit by anything when I've crossed the road. The current 'hierarchy' is completely upside down with various incorrect notions and ideas about safety. Back then kids knew that roads were dangerous and you didn't play on them because a car could suddenly appear, even if it was a very quiet road. Everywhere was 30 MPH and there were even a 40MPH dual carriageway outside a school I went to, yet was seldom a problem. Danger is natural and 'wrapping things up in cotton wool' has proven to either not improve anything or often make matters worse.

Vehicles are less efficient when stopping and starting at lower speeds. 20 mph restrictions imposed on roads with designated pedestrian crossings is totally insane. I would like to know what % of the people making these changes actually use the roads that their stupid ideas are impacting. I have recently seen duel carrageways reduce limits from 40-30 when the road has pedestrian crossings and 60-50 on a major road that has no pedestrian walkways or cycle paths.

It's a money making scheme. When every single bus in London produces zero emissions, I might begin to believe it's about air quality. However, zero emissions is a misnomer because electric vehicles are costly and resource intensive to produce.

this is another part of their desperation to control everything we do and say. Plus, easy money !!!

There should absolutely not be 20 mph limits on ANY main arterial road, it's totally ridiculous. The only reason the have made 'A' roads 20 is because they are the roads which have nearly all the cameras on them. Say no more! 💰💰💰

its all about cash get as much as thy can out of the driver,

Lee Waters is also renowned for stating "we ( Liebour) don't know what we're doing with the economy."

The goal was stated as primarily to get motorists to take to public transport, bikes, or legs for short journeys < 1 mile. Apparently the rest of the ‘benefits’ such as safety, community and pollution support that goal. So, arguments about safety being compromised by people looking at their speedometers or electric vehicles reducing pollution are moot.

Seriously, how many lives are saved? I can tell you now that one life is not worth inflicting this on millions of people. You can't save everyone, and you can't legislate against stupidity.

Dear Sir, I live in the Sutton Surry area and we have a roundabout at Rose Hill, it has 6 roads coming into it. Years ago you entered in the normal way with this type of road junction by flowing in when there was adequate space to do so in a sensible manner. But several years ago traffic lights were installed at the road junctions and on the actual roundabout itself and from then on the traffic became snarled up so much so that at busier times it is actually grid locked, and this no doubt is producing inordinate amounts of pollution. However, twice I have approached this roundabout at rush hour only to find next to no traffic and the answer to this became clear on entering the roundabout, and that is there were no traffic lights working. So it is apparent to me that this along with chicanes where one car has to stop to let the other through, then slightly further on the reverse happens which means constant stopping and starting is deliberately generating pollution and adding to frustrated drivers who are then more libel to make mistakes.

An automatic car hates 20 mph, constantly braking and releasing more brake particulates into the air. A third longer to get where you are going and a third more exhaust fumes.

Quentin is Wrong, there are cameras on motorways, I travel regularly on the M1 and they are definitely there.

Government should be listening to what the people want not Nanny state mentalitY

I live in the Scottish Borders where the 20mph was introduced. Not a great idea. Get a good supply of brake pads is my advice and brush up on emergency stop procedures. I do agree re close to schools but otherwise 👎👎👎

Electric Vehicles will push up the price of domestic electricity for us as demand for electricity goes up.

In all of these arguments for 20MPH limits they all forget that cars have brakes, they all say would you want your child hit at 20 or 30 how about new cars have good brakes and slow down pretty damn fast, we don't just go driving through people when we see them walk into the road

Here in the Highlands we have a village near me ,Castletown, as you go in its clearly marked 30 go round the corner on the lampposts there are now small rounds marked 20 also they've widen the pavement and added priority directional signs

Why are we allowed to have cars and motorcycles engineered to exceed the national speed limit, by 50 mph or more? When the 70mph was introduced most cars would have been undrivable at over 80mph.

Don’t worry folks, you won’t be allowed to drive a car at all soon.

Why have a speed limit at all,on clear days, on the motorway? Are British motorways worse than our German autobahns?

I remember back in the 90s a advertisement was on tv. It said take your eyes off the road for one second it could be fatal.? Hence 20 MPH is Dangerous keep looking at your speedo. Also I’m getting so fu..ing board and tired of all this climate ballshit.

People in clowncils who plan traffic flows and one way systems dont actually drive

Horse and carts go faster than this.

This lack ofrofessional mps instead of the best box ticker gets the job that is the problem

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

We have it in the town centre AND the ring road - designed to take traffic out of town!

Exactly, Quentin, good man it’s all about the appliance of science, not just the stuff you want to hear👏👏👏👏👏👏

70 was invented with drum brakes on an Austin allegro. That car took three weeks to get to that speed. Decent cars these days is just too archaic to their braking systems.

The Tories are Labour at the speed limit-both are driving over a cliff. Vote Reform.

There had been a War between Cars & Public Transport since 1960s and the cars are winning! We have just 40% of the stations we had then. Less track and exorbitant confusing fares. Meanwhile the total length of A roads and motorways in the UK has increased by around 50%. In 1960, there were around 20,000 miles of A roads and motorways in the UK. Today, there are around 30,000 miles of A roads and motorways.

RoSPA report June 2023 rejects default 20mph limit but supports such a limit in appropriate circumstances.

EVs are just a flash in the pan. They catch fire and the fire is almost impossible to put out. Insurance companies will get the message. Storing one of these things near a house will void the insurance on it. Ships carrying them will have their insurances voided. Finally the geological nature of lithium deposits will drive the price of the stuff through the roof.

Would be good to examine any payments to drakeford from the wef.

If you drive in France. The roads have different speed limits for dry weather and usually 20kmh less if its raining. 80mph on a motorway-68mph if its raining.

Cornwall has the same thing happening. The Councils own data shows that from 2017 to 2021, a 5 year period. 4 million visitors per year and a population of 560,000. 2 deaths and 14 casualties in 30mph zones in this period . This is clearly not about safety. That is an incredible safety record, getting more people to walk and cycle could increase accidents by the fact more people would be in the 'high risk category

When power goes overhead.

Electric car's.... give it a rest!!!! Utter nonsense!!!!

I've been living in a 20mph zone for over 20yrs, but its done properly, 20 around schools, minor residential roads, hospitals, etc, the main through routes are mainly 30 or 40 mph depending on type of the road....

But no one enforces the current 20 MPH in England. Councils or Police. Even the police have been seen breaking 20 MPH without lights or sirens. Traffic lights are set up to hold cars for longer.

Have had this outside my home since its introduction and it is brilliant. Passing my home the higher speeds have dropped from 50-60 (1n a 30 area_ to 30-40 and the reduction in noise is amazing. Perhaps those opposing have to take time to work out how much longer their journey is actually taking rather than speculating about what the increased time will be. Actually in our urban areas you are often hard put to reach even 20! Next they have to examine their reasons for opposing. Is it from genuine concern or because they politically oppose anything the Welsh Government does anyway?

great comment! about everything that’s wrong with these Elitists

Why should I pay for EV drivers parking they already don't pay Fuel duty.

It’s the people who get up and drive to work that keep this economy propped up.

They should indeed raise motorway limits to 85. Modern cars and modern brakes. It wouldn't make me any more or less likely to drive at 90 or 100 personally.

I drove past a small closed road about 200 yards long that ended in a gated field with a 20mph. Now does the speed limit apply to me if i drive into the field? How much did that sign cost the taxpayer.

Ignore it. I do. Lots of us do. If we all did, it would change back.

It's simple common sense that these people are ignoring or are incapable of.