Living Language Dothraki | David Peterson | Talks at Google

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Talks at Google

Talks at Google

9 жыл бұрын

M'athchomaroon! David Peterson is the linguist behind Dothraki, as used in HBO's "Game of Thrones." He speaks to Googlers about the process behind inventing languages. Athdavrazar!
David J. Peterson was born in Long Beach, California in 1981. He attended UC Berkeley from 1999 to 2003, and received a B.A. in English and a B.A. in Linguistics. He then attended UC San Diego from 2003 to 2006, where he received an M.A. in Linguistics. He's been creating languages since 2000, and working on the HBO original series Game of Thrones since 2009. In 2011, he became the alien language and culture consultant for the Syfy original series Defiance. In 2013, he joined the crew of the CW's Star-Crossed and also Syfy's Dominion as a language creator. In 2007, he helped to found the Language Creation Society, of which David has remained a proud member. He is also the author of The Art of Language Invention, to be published by Penguin Books in 2015.

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@Officialhelpkenet
@Officialhelpkenet 9 жыл бұрын
How can there be so few in the audience?! This was so interesting.
@foxyfanboy201rockstarfoxmo2
@foxyfanboy201rockstarfoxmo2 6 жыл бұрын
Officialhelpkenet
@Salvare92
@Salvare92 4 жыл бұрын
You know human nowadays, shitty videos = many views and subs, good videos = ignored.
@thorodinson6649
@thorodinson6649 2 жыл бұрын
@@Salvare92 seems like he meant in person
@GranColombiaball
@GranColombiaball 8 жыл бұрын
So since you spoke to Google... is the Dothraki Language available in Google Translate now?
@mephostopheles3752
@mephostopheles3752 5 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this dude talk about languages and linguistics for *decades.*
@mastermind2656
@mastermind2656 9 жыл бұрын
the language he created for the 100 was even better in my opinion us 100 fans love it. It's called Trideslang and David has somehow managed to transform and mutate the English language, It's incredible
@livelongandprospermary8796
@livelongandprospermary8796 7 жыл бұрын
MasterMind ooo I love that show. I was thinking about the language and how it sounds a bit like English. And how the grounders know english
@DAAI741
@DAAI741 7 жыл бұрын
I want him to be my English teacher
@MateriaHunter
@MateriaHunter 5 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when he teaches you High Valyrian instead.
@samanthabancroft1021
@samanthabancroft1021 9 жыл бұрын
This guy's awesome. Mad respect. I love Game of Thrones. I'm so going to buy that Dothraki book. He should write a book on the Valyrian languages as well. I really want to learn and be fluent in both Dothraki and High Valyrian. =)
@TheBorinao
@TheBorinao 8 жыл бұрын
+Samantha Bancroft I love High Valyrian! Did you buy the book? :)
@samanthabancroft1021
@samanthabancroft1021 8 жыл бұрын
Yabi No not yet unfortunately. I haven't had the time or the money. :(
@TheBorinao
@TheBorinao 8 жыл бұрын
Ahh too bad!
@samanthabancroft1021
@samanthabancroft1021 8 жыл бұрын
+Yabi I know :P
@TheBorinao
@TheBorinao 8 жыл бұрын
Still interested in learning languages? Dothraki, High Valyrian, etc? Join us at /r/conlangs :) I'm currently learning Esperanto.
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 8 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, don't do morphemes!
@HelplessPigman
@HelplessPigman 4 жыл бұрын
drugs are bad, mkay
@GameTornado01
@GameTornado01 3 жыл бұрын
The three big don'ts of life: -don't invade Russia in winter -don't just print money -don't do morphemes
@imnotsocreative5985
@imnotsocreative5985 3 жыл бұрын
i'm literally debating sending that quote to my linguistics prof XDDD
@GlaceonStudios
@GlaceonStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@imnotsocreative5985 We don't want another agglutinoid crisis, do we?
@markusklyver6277
@markusklyver6277 3 жыл бұрын
Why are morphemes "bad" in this case?
@israellai
@israellai 8 жыл бұрын
This is like the only instance of a linguist achieving star-like status...
@kryssimarie
@kryssimarie 8 жыл бұрын
+Israel Lai Noam Chomsky
@classicalmusful
@classicalmusful 8 жыл бұрын
Tolkien
@arpc1514
@arpc1514 8 жыл бұрын
+Kristen Marshello Great response. chomsky is really awesome.
@israellai
@israellai 7 жыл бұрын
agreed, except i'm not sure how many people outside his field know him same for Tolkien...even David himself says he used to not know that tolkien created languages...
@astrangeone
@astrangeone 7 жыл бұрын
Marc Okrand! Father of the Klingon language.
@mrrodgers0
@mrrodgers0 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps "kemis" could be used as a euphemism for the scrotum/testicles? (the resemblance is uncanny, after all) If so, I'd imagine the sentence "Anha nithak kemisoon" would be preeety common after a long day's ride.
@DTux5249
@DTux5249 5 жыл бұрын
XD you're not hero we deserve, but you're the one we need
@Ken19700
@Ken19700 7 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that there are no videos of kids speaking Dothraki as a first language. I thought you people were fans.
@N7a7v7i
@N7a7v7i 7 жыл бұрын
My fiancee and I are learning the language together and plan to speak it to any children we may have.
@erentoraman2663
@erentoraman2663 4 жыл бұрын
@@N7a7v7i how's that going?
@illusionlife9962
@illusionlife9962 4 жыл бұрын
@@N7a7v7i For the love of God, don't.
@JamesConley999
@JamesConley999 3 жыл бұрын
@@illusionlife9962 why?
@markusklyver6277
@markusklyver6277 3 жыл бұрын
@ምንትኑ አነ? Esperanto is cool. Dothraki is mostly just a product of pop culture.
@zexonhairi7215
@zexonhairi7215 8 жыл бұрын
o.o I'm still proud of j.r.r tolkein for making Quenya/elvish by himself.
@astrangeone
@astrangeone 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone who creates languages is amazing in my book. David Peterson, J.R.R. Tolkein, and Marc Okrand. Marc Okrand - Klingon. Should have been used more, but the original series probably didn't have the budget to do full scenes in Klingon like Game of Thrones with Dothraki. Tolkein - Quenya. Pretty awesome in itself, but we've never heard it spoken until the movie adaptations of them.
@keegster7167
@keegster7167 7 жыл бұрын
My favourite constructed language that I've seen: www.kunstsprachen.de/s17/s_01.html
@StarlasAiko
@StarlasAiko 5 жыл бұрын
astrangeone did they use Quenya in the movies? I thought they used Sindarin.
@ocandro
@ocandro 5 жыл бұрын
Kilravok they used both
@christopherram8948
@christopherram8948 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarlasAiko I think they used both. Also I think sindarin is high elvish vs quenya, which I think is low elvish
@DougJackson-gp6yq
@DougJackson-gp6yq 6 ай бұрын
As someone who is in the process of creating a conlang for an RPG I've created, your videos have been extremely helpful - Multa pued (many thanks)
@nantenin123
@nantenin123 8 жыл бұрын
Some of these words are very similar to Arabic and Hebrew
@leslieshE
@leslieshE 7 жыл бұрын
the reverse order of adj comes after noun is what we do in France ( ex : a STRONG boy in english becomes un garçon FORT in french )
@miguelpadeiro762
@miguelpadeiro762 4 жыл бұрын
And Portugal, Spain, Italy, basically all latin languages
@kryssimarie
@kryssimarie 8 жыл бұрын
For me, I take issue with a language that both relies on strict word order but still retains noun declensions. I wonder if he added any homonyms to the language. Very happy to see the full phonological inventory. It's a shame the sounds were restricted to what was explicitly present in the books and not extended via the principles of language change.
@SaneMillennial
@SaneMillennial 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, very informative speech. Very cool to hear how you come about the structure of the languages and all the looks you created. I was wondering how the actors manage to learn new languages and how indepth their learning go, as far as do they only bother to learn their exact lines, or is there an underlying understanding of the words? Seems like it's the latter.
@xGOKOPx
@xGOKOPx 5 жыл бұрын
Well actually the only thing actors really need to play is pronunciation and lines they're supposed to say
@ko-lq7vu
@ko-lq7vu 3 жыл бұрын
i’m pretty sure the actress that plays dnaerys (prob spelling that wrong) actually speaks one of the languages fluently.. i think jason mamoa is also fluent in dothraki
@MrBlue-df7ru
@MrBlue-df7ru 5 жыл бұрын
Add dothraki to google translate
@Riurelia
@Riurelia 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting talk! 31:12 Fun fact: in Dakota, the word for horse is "šuŋktháŋka" which means big dog.
@RichardDCook
@RichardDCook 7 жыл бұрын
The first book emphasizes that the Dothraki place importance on doing actions under the open sky. Does the Dothraki language have a verb aspect which divides actions into the categories of actions taking place in the open, and actions taking place inside tents/shelters/buildings?
@MisterSketch4
@MisterSketch4 5 жыл бұрын
at 45:19 that's Nick Farmer the language creator for the tv show 'The Expanse'!
@aarondavenport3143
@aarondavenport3143 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing, but i'm not satisfied with his answer to that man's question about prosody. I don't think he was trying to ask why the language wasn't intonation based like Mandarin but more of the general cadence/rhythm of the language. Also French being stress timed is likely to be the remnant of the celtic language once spoken in Gaul. Nobody ever seems to make that connection
@GastricSparrow
@GastricSparrow 7 жыл бұрын
Well you can always ask David himself on his channel David Peterson. There's ongoing discussion on his Art of Language Invention series.
@6menonaplane
@6menonaplane 9 жыл бұрын
anyone else went to altavista?
@MangoAnimates
@MangoAnimates 8 жыл бұрын
+6menonaplane YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@universal_hyssoap
@universal_hyssoap 7 жыл бұрын
oh
@nikitakozlov2529
@nikitakozlov2529 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool!
@kojayeoja
@kojayeoja 5 жыл бұрын
Since he couldn't create a script for Dothraki, did he perhaps (or will he in the future) make a script for Valyrian? I imagine Valyrians have a written form of their language. In the show they just used English/Latin alphabet (like in Meereen or wherever, where some people wrote on the wall "Kill the masters" "Mhysa is a master"). It kind of took me out of the show to see that in English/Latin alphabet, if the people of the city are speaking Valyrian (or Astapori Valyrian, I don't remember which city it was).
@deithlan
@deithlan Жыл бұрын
Well, I think you’ve got your answer now :) it actually does! And he is week by week exposing his new writing system on his instagram!
@kojayeoja
@kojayeoja Жыл бұрын
@@deithlan I haven't gotten around to watching the new show yet but thanks for letting me know, now I have extra motivation lol
@oliverchannelle6919
@oliverchannelle6919 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he had the hairstyle even as a freshman
@saltya3593
@saltya3593 4 жыл бұрын
The ambiance of that audience reminds me of the work place scenes in Orwells 1984.. I don't know why
@fordjosh7474
@fordjosh7474 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why Dóthraki or High Valyrian aren't on Google translate
@matfromcl
@matfromcl 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know how YT translate you Dothraki to English? deathrocky. :) Amazing and inspirational job.
@pallasproserpina4118
@pallasproserpina4118 2 жыл бұрын
To his point on swears: in quebecois french, many of the strongest curses are religious in derivation; in japanese, the most offensive curses are often progressively stronger ways to say “die”.
@RabbitOfAutumn
@RabbitOfAutumn 3 ай бұрын
I tried to figure out how people say both if not with the 'L' sound in there. It took me a bit, but I think I did it and it feels so unnatural.
@astrangeone
@astrangeone 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, he's my age. Makes me feel useless!
@matfromcl
@matfromcl 6 жыл бұрын
Keep conlanging. I've done not so much with my life, but i'll leave a language to the world: OFTENTOSK. (y)
@shinebrightag7157
@shinebrightag7157 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how we used to treat sicknesses back then...
@groshuard
@groshuard 9 жыл бұрын
Jean Perron was probably born in the province of Québec in Canada. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Perron
@animefan25
@animefan25 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that Dothraki is misspelled on the title card.
@arsenixkikokoro
@arsenixkikokoro 2 жыл бұрын
can anyone give me any alternatives to "doing morphemes" he mentions at the beginning? genuinely interested in other approaches and i dont know how to look for/up such a thing
@cireuropa
@cireuropa Жыл бұрын
I too would like to know
@isaiahulmer2334
@isaiahulmer2334 8 жыл бұрын
I am a very big fan of the Game of thrones series language of the Dothraki, while saying that I prefer High Valyrian out of all the famous movie languages! The language of the dothraki just sounds so repetitive but that's just my opinion.
@Chubbchubbzza007
@Chubbchubbzza007 7 жыл бұрын
17:22 Uhh Catphone!
@annam.5962
@annam.5962 6 жыл бұрын
Phone cat was even better, how I rofled! :D
@spriet_
@spriet_ 2 жыл бұрын
0:13 That has a whole new meaning now...
@kitdubhran2968
@kitdubhran2968 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of had to do the same thing to as starting a language when someone had done something already with it. When I started to create a language for a specific species, I had to use all of the sounds that were in the names we’d chosen for them. Over time we’d developed a pronunciation guide for their names. So I just picked sounds not letters and used that as the basic phonology. Interestingly their mouths are somewhat longer than a human’s. So they have one additional place of articulation along the roof of their mouth. And they also have fangs, so they struggle with certain bilabials (b,p, etc).
@rebeccamadsen4509
@rebeccamadsen4509 5 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that Vaes dothrak is "the city of rider"/"the city of the rider" instead of "the city of riderS" I think I have heard or read that they translate vaes dothrak to the city of riders, in plural form.
@bubbamike4743
@bubbamike4743 4 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Madsen it’s genitive case maybe?
@rebeccamadsen4509
@rebeccamadsen4509 4 жыл бұрын
Bubba Mike maybe! I'm reading the first book now and I think I've read a translation for dothrak as riding too but could have been dothrae or something.
@KittySYT
@KittySYT 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds so much like Arabic.
@N7a7v7i
@N7a7v7i 7 жыл бұрын
I think you haven't heard much Arabic honestly.
@annam.5962
@annam.5962 6 жыл бұрын
He actualy said the Dothraki language has been inspired by Arabic to some extent :)
@user-go1zt9ib4p
@user-go1zt9ib4p 5 жыл бұрын
@@N7a7v7i in Dothraki they say ana and thes word excited in Arabic
@jackstill4286
@jackstill4286 5 жыл бұрын
Spoken well, arabic is beutifull to listen too. Even if i dont know what your saying.
@jupiter5299
@jupiter5299 4 жыл бұрын
There should be Dothrakie on google translate
@missingfaktor
@missingfaktor 7 жыл бұрын
Indojin needs a Wikipedia page!
@njuvanrui2951
@njuvanrui2951 5 жыл бұрын
At the first glance of Dothraki grammar, you would be impressed by the feeling of looking at a very ancient language of not the historical nomadic people but the predecessors and ancestors of those who would later become nomadic, such as Ruoqiang in pre-Indo-European Uyghurstan, ANE in prehistoric Siberia, or some sort of Paleo-Eskimo language. But in the mean time, you would soon discover some sort of sense of artificiality or constructedness. A prehistorical pre-nomadic language should be more spontaneous if it's less analytic than this. This language sounds like what you would get, as a result, if you have displaced an entire tribe or caste of Circassian or Ket speakers and relocated them among the ocean of higher-social-rank Austronesian or Etruscan speakers insularly for several generations. I understand they were trying very hard to imitate what Valyrians sound like, maybe that's the reason why its so strongly but not fully right-branching...?
@Motofanable
@Motofanable 5 жыл бұрын
basically you are right, what has proto-indoeureopean, hungarian , turkic , mongol and tungusic languages in common? All of them were or are spoken by nomadic cultures and are highly fusional :=)
@lipamanka
@lipamanka 3 жыл бұрын
I pronounce both with a velar lateral
@turduckenwrath6110
@turduckenwrath6110 4 жыл бұрын
how funny- he and i were in the same school in the same department and we never (that i remember) crossed paths. By far not this most interesting thing of this talk but just struck me. Guess you never know who is going to school with you.
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Most uninteresting. I'm sure you're not the only one
@blaircolquhoun7780
@blaircolquhoun7780 2 жыл бұрын
How can I make my languages more realistic?
@t.k.abrams4720
@t.k.abrams4720 6 жыл бұрын
My family says bolth
@20nine
@20nine 6 жыл бұрын
11:50 looks like he's describing Icelandic…
@muffinman5741
@muffinman5741 5 жыл бұрын
12:07 matt damon with hair
@JacobEssell
@JacobEssell 4 жыл бұрын
Very Nice HAHAHAHAHA
@kacperwoch4368
@kacperwoch4368 7 жыл бұрын
Only 5 noun cases? Why not go for 8 or 10? Or 30...
@mr.notsonice
@mr.notsonice 6 жыл бұрын
Kacper Włoch Dont create hell please
@kaktotak8267
@kaktotak8267 7 жыл бұрын
Noun cases in a strongly head-initial language can be controversial? If it was anywhere realistic, it would have at least 16 of them.
@StarlasAiko
@StarlasAiko 5 жыл бұрын
Don't do morphemes, hmkay? Morphemes are bad for you, hmkay?
@veetiaaltonen5442
@veetiaaltonen5442 8 жыл бұрын
there is a youtuber called phonecatss
@allenlark
@allenlark 2 жыл бұрын
I think yahoo acquired Alta Vista
@thesuomi8550
@thesuomi8550 5 жыл бұрын
7:37 you're welcome
@ruinenlust_
@ruinenlust_ 8 жыл бұрын
>goes to altavista >is now yahoo
@hakonsoreide
@hakonsoreide 5 жыл бұрын
Comic Sans, used with some irony and what-the-hellism. That's the only allowable use.
@redpepper74
@redpepper74 3 жыл бұрын
And for school worksheets for kids up to 9 years old
@hakonsoreide
@hakonsoreide 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpepper74 It's even more important to expose children to good typography at an early age. Just in case they end up working at CERN one day and have announcements of global scientific importance to make.
@parthiancapitalist2733
@parthiancapitalist2733 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin's Stallion is Stalin'!
@creamofthecrop4339
@creamofthecrop4339 8 жыл бұрын
17:27 me right now
@davigurgel2040
@davigurgel2040 4 жыл бұрын
9:48 that reminds me that i criated a 20 pronoun system for esperanto because i didn't(and still don't) like their copy paste of english... it was messy
@MisterSketch4
@MisterSketch4 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Indogene language is naturalistic for the Indogene people but just not for us humans who wouldn't be able to move our hands like that.
@imnotsocreative5985
@imnotsocreative5985 3 жыл бұрын
i swear to god cases are the devil ahahha they're such a pain to learn
@t.k.abrams4720
@t.k.abrams4720 6 жыл бұрын
30:51
@Mikeztarp
@Mikeztarp 7 жыл бұрын
45:45 What in the devil is he talking about? I'm French, and I can't think of a single swear word or phrase that refers to the devil. If anything, English is the one that has a lot of religious swear words.
@AviChetriArtwork
@AviChetriArtwork 5 жыл бұрын
maybe he is referring to etymology
@Thindorama
@Thindorama 5 жыл бұрын
Mikeztarp Québécois French has some prominent religious swears for what it’s worth.
@hartzy7425
@hartzy7425 5 жыл бұрын
Swedish has a lot of religious based swears.
@pablete777
@pablete777 5 жыл бұрын
What was the language he couldn't say anything about?
@AngelMorales-fg7cw
@AngelMorales-fg7cw Жыл бұрын
9:40
@MURDERPILLOW.
@MURDERPILLOW. 15 күн бұрын
This audience is fucking brutal
@theironeco8021
@theironeco8021 6 жыл бұрын
20:00 ish when he talks about no articles that isnt uncommon. My second language, latin has no articles either.
@annam.5962
@annam.5962 6 жыл бұрын
In Russian, we don't have them too (fortunately)
@keegster7167
@keegster7167 6 жыл бұрын
eeeeiii! possisne latine loqui ?! bene sane. uisne latine fortasse loqui applicatione telegrammo aut discord aliquando?
@xGOKOPx
@xGOKOPx 5 жыл бұрын
About Russian, well, as far as I know, no single Slavic language has articles
@parthiancapitalist2733
@parthiancapitalist2733 5 жыл бұрын
My conlang has no articles
@DTux5249
@DTux5249 5 жыл бұрын
I know all of Western Europe has articles as well as Arabic and possibly Hebrew having one
@abrorvalihanov9787
@abrorvalihanov9787 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like arabic to me
@LittleCorns
@LittleCorns 8 жыл бұрын
There are tribal languages that only use click ;0 But dam this is awesome
@keegster7167
@keegster7167 6 жыл бұрын
no, no languages only use clicks. Some languages use clicks, but clicks are never the only consonants.
@dhyanmukta
@dhyanmukta 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure that word he doesn’t recognize means ‘freedom’
@nicholaspaubel7748
@nicholaspaubel7748 8 жыл бұрын
Dothraki doesn't have much, or many? O.o lol
@Nootathotep
@Nootathotep 5 жыл бұрын
Russian has more than twenty pronouns
@parthiancapitalist2733
@parthiancapitalist2733 5 жыл бұрын
Anon Ymous yeah they have a fourth person for enemies to the state, and a fifth for bourgeoisie
@thorodinson6649
@thorodinson6649 2 жыл бұрын
@@parthiancapitalist2733 political compass checks out
@nato4024
@nato4024 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this guy wrote a song of ice and fire. Oh he just claims he wrote parts of the books
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 4 жыл бұрын
He created the languages, not the books.
@fenryx0
@fenryx0 8 жыл бұрын
OK! Seventeen minutes in and you haven't taught a thing. I am definitely getting bored. I came to learn and you waste my time. I came to learn, I don't have to be persuaded, the class is not mandatory, and I don't care if you think conlangs are "awesome" or "awful". Maybe some day you will get around to a more compact style. I am going elsewhere.
@John-Adams
@John-Adams 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares.
@markusklyver6277
@markusklyver6277 3 жыл бұрын
OK
@thorodinson6649
@thorodinson6649 2 жыл бұрын
Fair
@AngelMorales-fg7cw
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33:58
@AngelMorales-fg7cw
@AngelMorales-fg7cw Жыл бұрын
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@AngelMorales-fg7cw
@AngelMorales-fg7cw Жыл бұрын
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