Nobody cares if other fans don't consider klopp a premier league legend Liverpool fans are happy to have had him as a manager

3 European cup finals in 8/9 years is some feat considering the state of the club was when he took over and he’s been beat by a team that nobody can compete with. How many European finals did fergie and wenger get with their respective clubs in the time they had .

Klopp has made his mark not just in Liverpool but the whole of football . He is a genius and legend of a bloke . He has been marvellous for the game.

Alan Shearer only won one Premier League and he's a legend is he not? Anyone banging on about "1 Premier League title" clearly isn't taking the context surrounding it into consideration; he's the ONLY manager who's finished above Pep's City for 7 years now, a club who've been doing it on cheat mode, he's the only manager to legitimately amass 95+ points a season on multiple occasions, he's reached 3 Champions League finals and won every trophy there is.... with the lowest net spend of the big 6. If you want to say that's not a legendary achievement point us all to the legend who did better with the 6th highest budget and a cheating club in the way please.

His legend status is not purely about his record but his influence on a club and a city. A wonderful character and human being.

He is our legend thats all that matters ynwa klopp ❤

That caller says "Every single season out spent by City". He's adamant, Every single season. 😂😂😂😂

I consider someone a legend who had an impact on the league, both from the sports and from the personality. Of course, Klopp is a legend. he transformed a Liverpool side that were in the middle of nowhere on the table to a regular title contender and european top side again within a few years. And not by spending loads of money as ManCity did, he made the players inheritated from Rodgers better (Gomez, Firmino, Henderson), integrated academy talents in (Quansah, TAA) and bought players who weren't on the radar at all by the top teams (best example is probably Robertson). He may not have won loads of titles, but he was constantly in top 4 (except last season, even though it was tough).

Putting my Manchester United biased aside I would love to have had Klopp as our manager for the last decade or so but this is an absolutely ridiculous argument. Is anyone calling Conte or Manchini PL legend managers ? Hardly

It's just clickbait. He's a legend, and these guys all know it.

Up there with rainieri.

Klopp a legend. Still won the title against an incredible city side. And champions league and both domestic trophies. Definite legend status for me.

As a City fan, as much as Klopp and his side gave me many sleepless nights, I have nothjng but the utmost respect for him. And as for not being remembered as the runner up in several seasons as Simon suggests, I think he’s wrong. Why? The Pep/Klopp era (yes I’m calling it that contrary to what some pundits think given Pep won more) was defined a period of unbridled footballing excellence btwn both managers unlike anything before in both the PL and top flight English football. This was a time where each manager was pushing each other and the limits of what a team can achieve each season. To look at what both Klopp and Pep achieved through the lens of results-only analysis is not only lazy and poor, but misses what made this era so special to begin with. Just look at some of the records each team broke from points to unbeaten streaks to winning streaks to gap over 2nd place to GD to GF and on the list goes. What we witnessed was truly special and would not have been possible had it just been Pep or had it just been Klopp.

I mean if you win the PL as a manager I would say you’re a legend in that competition

Klop = 1 prem league Conte = 1 prem league Ranieri = 1 prem league Pelligrini = 1 prem league Mancini = 1 prem league Numbers don´t lie

The real question is what makes a PL legend. He has won every trophy available to him. Yes not multiple times but he did come up against a manager in Pep and a team like City who are a juggernaut.

Points totals mean nothing, could easily mean the league was better or poorer

Rome 84 when my club Dundee Utd were robbed by a corrupt ref in the semi, I would have loved to have seen Dundee utd v liverpool.

Premier league legend means premier league… one title is the same as Claudio Ranieri, conte, Carlo Ancelotti and they don’t see them as “premier league legends”

You don't win every Trophy possible especially the Premier League with a Team that had never won it before and not be considered a Premier League Legend.

FACT Check - City spent more than Liverpool in EVERY transfer window. False. In seasons, 2021/2022 and 2022/2023 Liverpool’s net spend was higher. In fact, City made a £7.17m profit on transfers for 2022/2023. All that said, I adore Klopp and I do believe he is a premier league legend.

some of the comments on here are laughable - had to go up against Pep & 115 FFP violations. took Liverpool from being "Midtable United" & won 7 trophies in 9 years - some of you would be creaming your pants if your club had done that, smmfgdh

What makes legends is how memorable they are and for how long. Alan Shearer is a Premier League legend. So is Arsene Wenger. So is Mohamed Salah. So is Harry Kane. Trophies won is not the best metric.

He is a Liverpool legend. Not a PL legend… he has won one title. Same category as Daglish at Blackburn and Ranieri at Leicester. One season wonders, Liverpools deluded fans are the only ones who would bring up coming 2nd, no one remembers the runner up.

10 points - for a champions league/european cup 8 points - for a prem/division1 5 points - for a europa/uefa/inter-cities fairs cup 4 points - for an fa cup 3 points - for a europa conference cup/cup winner's cup 2 points - for a league cup who are the greatest teams of all time in this rating system?

It’s silly to question if klopp is a premier league legend. He became at the time only the 2 manger ever to win the title and the champions league with the same team. People forget how bad Liverpool were before Klopp. The narrative about one league title in 9 years is nonsense it took 4 year to build the team to title contenders and when Liverpool final became title contenders the club had a 5 year run where they won 7 trophies and won a trophy every season they were in a title race. Something Arsenal haven’t been able to do. Is Klopp a premier goat as a manager maybe not but he certainly is a legend

115 is becoming a coping mechanism at this point 😂😂😂.

Most of them are ready to become options for Liverpool first team under Arne Slot Next season.Goal keepers= 1- Fabian Mrozek 2-Harvey Davies 3-Kornel Misciur 4-Marcelo Pitaluga 5-Kelleher.Defenders = 6-Calvin Ramsey 7-Sepp Van Den Berg 8-James Norris 9-Amara Nallo 10-Luke Chambers 11-Owen Beck 12-Lucas Pitt 13-Calum Scanlon 14-Conor Bradley 15-Jarell Quansah 16-Billy Koumetio 17-Lee Jonas 18-Carter Pennington.Midfielders= 19-Tyler Morton.20-Fabio Carvalho21-James Balagizi 22-James Mc Connell23- Bobby Clark 24-Trey Nyenri 25-Isac Mabaya 26-Ben Truman 27-Stefan Bajecetic 28-Tommy Pilling 29-Kieran Morrison 30- Melkamu Fraunendrof 31- Joe Bradshaw.Strikers =32- Lewis Koumas 33-Jayden Danns 34- Trent -Kone Doherty 35-Musialowski 36- Harvey Blair 37- Ben Doak.

Simon has become very tedious in his approach to everything. It's like listening to my mrs in an argument 😂🤣

Remember that player who isn’t that talented but everyone is like “Aaaww but he works so hard.” That’s Klopp

The problem with Simon is he uses one standard for one club over another. For example, he states that Palmer is player of the year because of what he has done under the circumstances at Chelsea where many of the players have been poor. If you apply the same logic of 'circumstances' to Klopp and Liverpool, he has not got the financial power at Liverpool that Pep has at City. Thus, if you apply this standard then you would expect Klopp to only have maybe one or two titles. Remember, Pep set the standard for spending loads of money on defenders that was not the norm by buying Walker and Mendy for 50 mil each. In addition, when Pep joined, they started spending 200 mil plus every year. With his second full transfer market he spent over 300 mil. This was un-parallel at this time which is why they have such incredible depth.

5:09 greatest achievement he’s ever seen Really, greater than Leicester winning the Premier League title

Simon changes his mind more than his knickers 🩲

1 title =legend 😂😂😂

Klopp’s legacy is a Herculean effort doing things the right way against Everything that is wrong with Domestic football currently

He's our legend that's all that matters

Of course he is. The only knock against him is he coached at the same time as the single most dominant force in premier league history. Third highest winning percentage in league history for a manager that took over a team in 8th place. If he managed in the 2000s he'd have a dozen league titles.

By the criteria being used by those calling Klopp a EPL legend, Ranieri should be considered a bigger epl legend then

A legend is someone who leaves behind an unforgettable impression on others. They touch lives, they're remembered, they're cherished. Legends take football to another level, producing moments of magic which people will never forget.not only winning trophies.

A legend is more than just thophies. If not then Gerrard, Shearer, Le Tissier aren't Premiere legends.

He was the one who get Liverpool back on right track ..He have put his name for sure on the list of great Managers ..why???..he came..he saw and he leave as Lagend...Look at him ..What he did...

This 1 will trigger the scourers. Fergie, Pep, Wenger and Jose, in that order are the only managerial legends of the prem!!! If klopp is a legend then Ranieri is even more so considering what he was working with

He is not a legend guys. Put emotions aside. One epl because Liverpool were starving of it does not make him an epl legend but a club legend rather. Why are we making an excuse for kloop and let stop the if city was not around, we would have won more.

Points total arguments speak for the strength of the league and the disparity between the top and bottom half. Wenger, mourinho & fergie didn’t amass the points of Klopp and Pep because there was less of a gap between the sides. Save for your terrible Derby teams, bottom half teams could compete for the most part. The transfer and wage budgets were not as wide as they are now… And the gap widens every year…. That isn’t to say Klopp isn’t a legend of the game…he is. But points tally’s is a useless argument.

He left the club immeasureably better off than when he arrived. On and OFF the field. Legend? Beating a Messi led Barcelona after being 0-3 down. Not only winning the EPL for LFC after a 30+ year wait but by 18 POINTS!!!! Cannot understand all the hate. The most intriguing and charismatic manager? What a back-handed compliment, Simon. But that comment just shows his lack of class or football intelligence. Thank goodness for Martin O'Neill and his thoughtful, unbiased insight. Shame that xenophobia and jealousy are still rife in the EPL.

so Mourinho and Wenger are Prem legends who never won the lot but Klopp isn't who did? make it make sense😂 Fergy,Pep and Klopp only managers to win everything in the Prem era,facts!

Didn’t watch this click bait video bc who gives s*** what they think of Klopp. We as Liverpool supporters know who & what Klopp means to us.

He brought Liverpool the Premier League and European cup . To be honest thats all that matters to us Liverpool fans . If not for him people woukd be still saying 35 years with no League . That European cup meant we are as we were betore Fergie took over Man Utd . A differentiation of three cups. He brought the premiershop some of the best football you will ever see and turned so many players into world class. Yeah we shouldn't dwell on could haves but the guy reached three Europedn cup finals and in any other era he would have three league titles.

Klopp is a legend end of.

Steven Gerrard, Matthew Le Tissier and Harry Kane all never won the premiership, but are all premier league legends

What does the breaches have to do with the on field Team performances?

He made it.. seen it all... Jürgen Nobert Best Klopp.... He said it ' it doesn't matter' what haters said because He gave it all it.. we love Klopp , we are liverpool and Simon go on walking alone. Klopp is up there , loved by all not only Liverpool fans .... Simon I respect you sir but you have your own personal issues and it's been awhile now, you are a prime specimen of a ' hater' but we are with you and love you sir

Of course hes a legend......

I see Simon's point, as a Liverpool fan he is a club legend for sure but maybe needed a couple more league titles to be a prem legend. However, it has to be said that Liverpool wouldn't have been anywhere near City without Klopp

As many pl as pelligrini. Is he a legend?

To summarise Liverpool fans: "A Premier League legend is a Winner", but if he managed Liverpool, you have to factor in average points-per-game and how many matches kicked off 12:30 on a Saturday.

With 1 title he cannot be put in the same category as Alex, Arsene, Jose, and Pep.

Why can't they just accept that he's a Liverpool legend and not a premier league one? He's won one league ffs 😂

Hows it even a debate

100% a club and PL legend. Guy took a bang average Liverpool side and made them title contenders. He won more silverware in 9 Seasons than any other PL club not including Man city. Let's not forget where we were at as a club before his arrival. He's won more silverware than something like the last 4 LFC managers.

Is Simon trying to suggest that Pep hasn’t benefited from the “financial irregularities” that city “may” have committed? What % of all PL managers have won the PL? History will prove that winning any premier league against a state owned club is the stuff of legend.

Liverpool were title challengers in only 3 , or maybe 4 of his 9 years in charge.

To finish with 90+ pts x2 and not win the league .. 3 champions league finals Has had to work with a budget that is 5-13 spending .

He is the boss

Klopp is the greatest thing that ever happened to the EPL. He’s a man that all men should strive to be. His ability to bring people together and motivate is outstanding. He literally is a genius.

He’s a Liverpool legend, not a PL legend, in my opinion. If the next manager comes through and wins things he’ll be seen through reality goggles.

Win the Champions League and a league title, and you're a legend. Hes not on SAF or Peps level, tho, not even close.

1 premier league trophy... It will go either way, personally based on that, he is not a PL LEGEND

No he isn’t. He’s won everything once, yes, but his Liverpool have never got over the line when it’s been close. I’m a Liverpool fan, but just because the bar was so low when he took over doesn’t mean that a single title in 9 years suddenly makes him a league legend.

I’d probably put him possibly in 4/5 place of best managers in premier league history

Compare with Pep probably not. Compare with his former Liverpool peers definitely yes. Liverpool were nowhere when he joined and competed at the top table for most of his time

Im a United fan but have to say he is. For style of football and personality..also won enough trophies...I know only 1 EPL but champions leagues compensates.

Klopp is a legend of Liverpool! Klopp is Liverpool. He gave Liverpool in the most difficult league the PL plus CL! Every manager who win the PL is a legend! This is Pep City PL-to be Champion of England is the most difficult job. Klopp is Mainz,Dortmund and Liverpool. His style of football is extraordinary. Who played like this? Who? Nobody and he was successful! Benitez won the CL but PL? Rodgers the failure? Who? Nobody!

Even David Moyes is a PL legend, unless you don’t know what a legend means.

Trophies won, no, winning record for games play his win ratio better than Fergie's, Fergie won leagues with 78 pts Klopp lost the league with 97 points, So yeah for trophies won NO, for having one of the strongest ever teams in history that happened to be at same time as the greatest team in history YES. The Liverpool team the past 8 years has been an awesome team the trophy return was appalling of only one reason Man City and all the past legends would have got spanked by them too. But simple test name a Team that would want to employ him right now if they lost their current manager, they all would and every supporter group would love it.

We Liverpool fans don’t give an F whether you lot think he is or he is not a legend

I personally can't stand Liverpool nor Klopp. Having said that I'd certainly have to consider him among the biggest premier league legendary managers from a strict managerial standpoint, but also with a caveat that it would have to include his record in European competitions as well as his record with previous clubs. On a standalone PL basis he did very well, beyond expectations for sure. On the more critical side you'd have to consider his league performances as being highly inconsistent. For all the good things he managed his teams only finished in the top 2 three times. Yes the 2 runner up occasions were with very high points totals and also the league title that they won. Outside of those seasons though their seasons were relatively unspectacular. Klopp will be remembered for a huge time in Liverpool and among Liverpool fans. For one thing it seems from ab outsider perspective to be one where the club and fans were in it together. I think Klopp is a huge factor in that, so much so that i don't think any of the good stuff happens without him. To everyone else I think he'll still be remembered and acknowledged as being a high quality football manager but just one of many behind the top level guys like Guardiola, Wenger and of course Ferguson.

Liverpool fans need to understand that they’ll be back out in the wilderness like Utd have been

He's not in the top 4 managers in the premier ever, but certainly after that he's in the conversation. Really depends on your definition of legend after that. Certainly a Liverpool legend, after that it's up to the individuals definition

Lfc have also been sanctioned.... No Simon, they haven't. That's the second time you've said that and had to backtrack before about it as you were wrong

Ole, Mourinho and Arteta finished higher than him, not like he would have won everything without city lol

Anyone who says he isn’t a legend doesn’t have football knowledge. Best win percentage of any Liverpool manager in history. The only team/manager who went toe to toe with City every single season. If it wasn’t for Pep Liverpool would have many more league titles. No one else came close to our points total!

Liverpool are the only team to win the league with a 25 piont gap between themselves and second place team

Another clueless caller. They had 97 points and still didn’t win. Just doesn’t mean they would have beaten United to the titles. United won cos they were the best. Liverpool had a chance to beat them and didn’t

Every other word out of every commentator and pundit mouths is “press”. Klopp brought that to the premier league.

Klopp is the better manager but if beating Guardiola to pl is an achievement then winning pl with Leicester is an even bigger achievement

If Simon thinks Klopp is the best manager in the world then how did it become that?? Surely the rise of the greatest manager in the world can only be legendary.

I don't give a stuff what anyone says. Every club would have loved him. The difference between ferry and klopp is utd had only arsenal as competition. Never would he have coped with city or Chelsea under abramovich. Also most liked klopp, can't be said for ferguson.

There’s no debate there

Only true honest non deluded football fans will know that he is a premier league legend 1 rebuilt Liverpool on a budget that isn’t comparable as these other so called “legends” He has won every cup going. If they didn’t get robbed in past seasons it would of been more than one prem trophy and champs league, so without a deluded look on things then yes he is a premiership legend don’t talk utter tripe.

Don’t people realise Jordan uses click bait to wind up viewers 😡

Man's a legend whether we like it or not.

Well, if Man City do get found guilty and stripped of their titles, one will go to Arsenal, and the other one from the previous season will go to Liverpool as we finished a point beyond Mancity. And Liverpool should have beaten Aston Villa. But we let our gard down and then ended up with a draw. Hopefully we will beat wolves. Klopp willl be missed He is a Liverpool legend like Paisley and Kenny 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🤴

115 charges didn’t stop Liverpool winning more points than City , 115 charges didn’t stop Liverpool from dropping points to not win a league 🤷‍♂️

Simon Jordan has no right to judge Klopp's status in football. He's not qualified. Only fellow managers who have achieved great things have that right.

Kind of funny that the failed owner of Crystal Palace should think he has the last word on Klopp.

To win a League against the Might of Citeh and the 115 funds is an UNBELIEVABLE achievement! If it wasn’t for Klopp Citeh would be going for SIX titles in a row.

Anyone who wins a PL title against Pep , is a Legend , and he was one loss from being a invincible season.

why would they care so much if he wasnt

Jordan previously said Klopp was the best. Jordan has backtracked his stance from earlier in the season when Liverpool were going for a quadruple. He's been out Guardiola'd.