Tatum Officer vs Brian Heated DEBATED On Marriage!

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9 ай бұрын

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@thesilenthero422
@thesilenthero422 9 ай бұрын
The sort of quality, low-body count, modest, dignified woman with good morals that Brian wants would want to get married. So if he's holding out for a wife material woman yet who doesn't actually want to be a wife, he'll probably be forever alone.
@stub4488
@stub4488 9 ай бұрын
Sadly, they don't make them like this anymore. I agree with your statement and I'm in his shoes...I've already excepted my fate. But I was also someone who married once, wife left after 6 yrs.
@michaelrivera8360
@michaelrivera8360 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like a him problem like Tatum told him and many said if you don't like woman generalizing men,men can't generalize woman either.There is still good woman out there but you need to search for her.
@tisbutascratch2045
@tisbutascratch2045 9 ай бұрын
​@@stub4488As a woman, they don't make good men anymore either. They're not traditional, not providers, not protectors, and not even slightly modest. It's hard for both genders to find a partner these days..
@CodyMartinez-tf5eh
@CodyMartinez-tf5eh 9 ай бұрын
@@tisbutascratch2045 😂 Sounds like you’re just trying to turn the tables on men. You’re full of it. Lol
@CodyMartinez-tf5eh
@CodyMartinez-tf5eh 9 ай бұрын
I do like officer Tatum’s take on marriage. However, if both people in the marriage don’t believe in God, then I don’t see the point of marrying. Marriage is a promise before God.
@Dixon_Cider407
@Dixon_Cider407 9 ай бұрын
Brian is delusional thinking a classy, self respecting, high value woman is going to accept being his long term girlfriend and not a wife
@jest3r5
@jest3r5 9 ай бұрын
Define "high value woman", please.
@deeds7529
@deeds7529 9 ай бұрын
@@jest3r5a God fearing biblical Christian woman
@Cope59
@Cope59 9 ай бұрын
Signing some stupid piece of paper to make your relationship "official" is stupid. If two people really care for each other it doesn't matter if you get married or not. Look at divorce rates nowadays, its living proof that "marriage" doesn't just magically solidify your relationship. I just dont see anything wrong with deciding to not have the government involved in your relationship.
@TheJulieeaa
@TheJulieeaa 8 ай бұрын
@@Cope59 mariage has many benefits espacially for women
@rubeautymom4703
@rubeautymom4703 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheJulieeaaplease explain the benefits you think I'm missing. I've been with my partner 11 years, we have 4 kids, shared investment accounts, both names on the deed to our home, shared rental properties, POA of each other, own our business together, and everything financially is shared. We have the connection and respect for each other, both of us are completely committed emotionally and physically. Our families recognize us as husband and wife. We wear rings signifying our commitment. I've broken down the taxes and it actually benefits us to file separately (even if we were married legally). Now please correct me if I'm wrong, but, marriage would only benefit me more than our current situation if we divorced. But even then it would only entitle me to his income because everything else is already joint owned so where's the extra benefits 🤔 Also note, I was raised in a household that "stayed together for the kids" which has greatly effected my view on marriage. He proposed and I explained my stance and he said he was interested in the commitment so as long as I committed myself to him he was happy. We had a "post it" marriage kinda like they did on Grey's anatomy. We don't need the government or a document to define our commitment. It's between us and at the end of the day we either stay committed or we don't a document isn't going to change that.
@lucashill1547
@lucashill1547 9 ай бұрын
The women Brian wants doesn't exist any women that is either a virgin or has a low enough body count for him will 100% be wanting to get married
@jlolson53
@jlolson53 9 ай бұрын
These people who believe they can find good women who want to shack up are living in the fantasy world. But then most of them (judging from the programmed-for-failure "red piillers" posting here) live in a fantasy world where women are the big bad monster. They've grossly over-corrected for modern problems with women much in the way modern feminists have grossly over-corrected for centuries of being delegated inferior legal rights.
@VancouverInvestor
@VancouverInvestor 9 ай бұрын
Often depends on income. Make +250k and see how cooperative women become.
@NphiniT
@NphiniT 9 ай бұрын
@@VancouverInvestor Yeah like CR7 and his girlfriend. They live like husband and wife but they're not married. So divorce is not even a question. If she decides to leave, she leaves.
@stub4488
@stub4488 9 ай бұрын
@@VancouverInvestor They just get better hiding their past.
@raizen21ss56
@raizen21ss56 9 ай бұрын
Low body count or virgin women are more deserving of marriage though.
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 9 ай бұрын
The problem isn’t really marriage it’s the people who get married and have no idea how to pick the right person. People get married on cue basically It’s not like people are truly understanding of having deep committed relationships. Guys want to complain about the women and yet they were sleeping around themselves . You gotta have two people who are actually totally inlove and respectful of each other . The problem is people aren’t good at telling when it’s for real because they never had to endure anything with their partners for long enough and didn’t know how to provide levity in the midst of it. The problem isn’t marriage
@2403rygar
@2403rygar 9 ай бұрын
So true!
@fnordiumendures138
@fnordiumendures138 9 ай бұрын
If an institution meant for most people isn't working for most people that institution really isn't fit for purpose.
@aisherwasher6959
@aisherwasher6959 9 ай бұрын
Maybe this is too old fashioned, but arrange marriages or at least more involvement of parents/respected loved ones in finding a partner sounds like it could prevent soooo many marriage problems (assuming they have at least a bit more wisdom on marriage) 😂
@dustins382
@dustins382 9 ай бұрын
@@aisherwasher6959 arranged marriages sound great! Mature parents that can identify a ton of youthful mistakes and have no lust towards the partner so they can think clearly and assess how you two will get along! I think historically arranged marriages had like 98% success rate with people being very happy with their marriage because they grew together in their marriage
@LILJROD90
@LILJROD90 9 ай бұрын
Not even that. It’s about not taking marriage seriously. It’s about not treating it as the sacred covenant that it truly is. You pick the “wrong person” that’s on you. You should have had those conversations (the DEEP REAL ones) before ever crossing that marriage line
@Jonellie
@Jonellie 9 ай бұрын
She has a point. A real high value woman will want marriage. If men are excused for sleeping around on this podcast because it's in their biology to want to sow the seeds, shouldn't it then be okay for women to want to get married? Since its in our biology to want protection?
@Menace2Society9
@Menace2Society9 9 ай бұрын
Who says it's not ok for women to want marriage.... what's not ok is for men to sign these unfavorable contracts that ONLY BENEFIT the female.... What benefit do i get from getting married??? I want real things not bs... this is the worst investment a man can make these days... this is just a fact...
@positivepaul8956
@positivepaul8956 9 ай бұрын
The distinction is between legal marriage and spiritual marriage. The concept of marriage is absolutely desirable but the man made laws imposed upon that marriage by the government is the problem.
@HelloTruDee
@HelloTruDee 9 ай бұрын
👏🏼
@alwaysright3943
@alwaysright3943 9 ай бұрын
You're not entitled to marriage just like men aren't entitled to sex. If you manage to get the guy you like to marry you, good for you. If you don't, it's your problem.
@aisherwasher6959
@aisherwasher6959 9 ай бұрын
​@@positivepaul8956but it sounds like the legal issues are over divorce not marriage itself, so if the couple is actually committing to stay together, why not commit legally too? And if you don't know with relative certainty (through more than just your partner's word) that you'll stay together, why commit in any way at all? Genuine questions! This stuff is wild!
@OsiAleogena
@OsiAleogena 8 ай бұрын
Officer Tatum is wrong. No matter what you do as a man. Manifest, profess, plan, envision, whatever. It doesn't change the fact that the divorce decision has nothing to do with you. This is exacerbated by the fact that today there are huge incentives for women and consequences for men than ever before.
@InbredSpanishKing
@InbredSpanishKing 9 ай бұрын
This dude keeps saying “skin in the game” but fails to realize most women don’t have anything to risk in marriage and they stand to benefit if it doesn’t work. why should women work through relationship issues if they can just divorce and keep half ur shit? As long as men are the only ones getting fucked over in divorce, marriage is a no for me
@tothetop2498
@tothetop2498 9 ай бұрын
She said worst case scenario… Uh, in divorce women initiate up to 90% of the time. It’s the most likely scenario.
@purplelove3666
@purplelove3666 9 ай бұрын
And you don't know why? Or do you automatically think it's a man's fault?
@brianmihlfeith7135
@brianmihlfeith7135 9 ай бұрын
Do these people think that the “now divorced people” thought “yeah, I think someday I’ll divorce this man.” NO!! They say (said) the SAME EXACT THINGS BRANDON IS SAYING! Then it happens to him. People are so naive, they think “it would never happen to me! My wife and I said “‘til death do us part.’ So we’re not getting divorced!” Ten years later 50% of them file for divorce. This is the dumbest argument I hear all the time. People change, and women are going to leave your ass if you’re not providing, or in my case, I lost my job during the 2008 “recession.” That’s all it took. No “better or worse”, just “see ya, I can do better.” I make sure my son knows the truth and like I always say, as a divorced father, it would be recklessly irresponsible to ever encourage him to get marrried in a no fault marriage and especially given todays modern women.
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 9 ай бұрын
Smart father.
@manuelchalas7957
@manuelchalas7957 9 ай бұрын
Marriage is supposed to be a spiritual binding of both you and your wife. If there is no God involved your chances go drastically down. If the dynamic isn’t you are the leader,your wife follows and you both follow God than in those moments that inevitably happen to all marriages where doubt creeps through than there will be no God that will stop her decision.
@Jonellie
@Jonellie 9 ай бұрын
So, my Mom is twice divorced.2nd one only recently. 1st one she cheated, 2nd one she left because she felt like she did everything around the house (seriously?). This has only made me smarter. I do still want to get married, but I have been very picky with the men I date. It hasn't closed me off to marriage, because I believe if you get married (yes its not always in your hands) divorce is not even an option. If I get married at 35, then so be it, but choosing the right person to marry is a big deal. I think the problem today is people don't take marriage seriously anymore.
@raielle
@raielle 9 ай бұрын
Steven Crowder learned this lesson the hard way, after mocking the red pill types. Now he's quiet. Can't wait for tatums turn in the family courts. Gonna 'told you so' his ass so hard.
@thrilla72
@thrilla72 9 ай бұрын
​@@JonellieI got to be honest, your mum leaving because of doing everything around the house, it makes her sound lazy. What was her husband doing?
@BC-vg3zf
@BC-vg3zf 9 ай бұрын
Get rid of no fault divorce, now think what you would sight to dissolve a marriage
@tothetop2498
@tothetop2498 9 ай бұрын
@@iidentifyasanapacheattackh3626 Even biblically. Adultery and death (physical abuse can be seen that way).
@tothetop2498
@tothetop2498 9 ай бұрын
And most definitely. No fault divorce is bs. Women will really have to consider who they marry.
@anthonypaynr
@anthonypaynr 9 ай бұрын
Prenup
@Chris-pd8rh
@Chris-pd8rh 9 ай бұрын
Prenups are often overturned. Same with postnups. Do it's definitely not a safe way to protect your assets.
@BC-vg3zf
@BC-vg3zf 9 ай бұрын
So if there no adultery, no physical violence but then psychological will possibly be stated as a caveat Alimony was instigated because women didn’t necessarily have a earning job, they have more opportunities today in the west than ever in history so we remove that. Child support should stay but if paternity fraud is committed then compensation or time served in jail should be instituted Alienation of affection laws would be another deterrent for r both sexes Prenuptial agreements for both sexes on to cover inherited assets and what you want to put in it in lieu of adultery and physical violence Any other ideas
@cf4718
@cf4718 9 ай бұрын
Tatum is going to find out the hard way. He is giving me Steve Harvey vibes…..and look what happened to Steve. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 9 ай бұрын
Tatum serves the Lord Jesus Christ.
@billya3628
@billya3628 9 ай бұрын
He serves another jesus. Jesus is either the Savior of the world, or He isn't.
@sicariobrother316
@sicariobrother316 8 ай бұрын
What happened to Steve Harvey
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 8 ай бұрын
@@billya3628 He serves the Jesus Christ of the Bible
@billya3628
@billya3628 8 ай бұрын
@@ryanrogers8211 The failure "Jesus" who only saves a very small percentage of people. He will here "I never knew you", just like everyone in "christianity" who believe in a dead "god" ! Tim. 4:10
@emmanuelnava6582
@emmanuelnava6582 9 ай бұрын
Officer Tatum is saying “fake it till you make it, man.” Nah, I’m good officer. Good for you though.
@13Hazy
@13Hazy 9 ай бұрын
Dang you cute 😅
@kristinashea17
@kristinashea17 9 ай бұрын
I “waited” til I was married and I got married for my first time at 34. I’m a Christian. We do exist. ❤
@redman8767able
@redman8767able 8 ай бұрын
Good for you! Respectfully, the women of today are not like you. They are going into relationships thinking about what they can extract rather than what they can bring to the table.
@shanevan1
@shanevan1 8 ай бұрын
I met my wife (24) and her son when I was 20. And spent most of my 20's supporting them finishing school, and starting my career. Meanwhile dating and getting to know eachother deeply in all situations and doing so intentionally with marriage as the possible end goal. Personally I have waited until marriage as well. We married 3 years ago when I was 27 she was 31. I think especially as a Christian living according to biblical principles, marriage is worth soooo much more. The state stuff wasn't even important to us. It was the commitment and promise to eachother and God from that specific moment. 3 years in and our 3rd child on the way.
@crystaldavis9442
@crystaldavis9442 8 ай бұрын
​@redman8767able if you watch stuff like this, then yes, it will seem as though all women are like that. If you are looking for the bright, beautiful, flamboyant, catch everyone's attention girls then yes, they will almost all be like that. Stop looking at the eye catchers. Look for the quiet, studius girls. The easily overlooked girls. 304s advertise themselves as loudly as they can. Nice girls shy away from all that. They are tucked in to a good book on Friday night instead of gyrating half naked in a club.
@kristinashea17
@kristinashea17 8 ай бұрын
@@shanevan1 that’s amazing! Don’t hear about it as much these days. So happy for you as well. :)
@kristinashea17
@kristinashea17 8 ай бұрын
@@redman8767able thank you. &couldn’t have said it better. Very said for them.
@phillygreekfeet
@phillygreekfeet 9 ай бұрын
It feels like people aren't as loyal as they use to be.
@jedmetheny3710
@jedmetheny3710 9 ай бұрын
Just like every other situation that the government gets involved in, marriage has been tainted.
@purplelove3666
@purplelove3666 9 ай бұрын
Marriage is not tainted
@jedmetheny3710
@jedmetheny3710 9 ай бұрын
@purplelove3666 Explain to me how marriage today is what it was 50 years ago. The concept of marriage is dead. It's not taken seriously anymore. Vows are just words. Not to mention, marriage is a major liability for men. The sexual revolution in the sixties and feminism has killed the idea of the traditional marriage, especially for men.
@Razear
@Razear 9 ай бұрын
"You have to start telling yourself a different story." I could try to manifest being a billionaire, but how likely is that to happen? Brian's concerns are legitimate knowing the contemporary divorce stats. And as he mentioned, it's the wife that typically initiates the divorce, that's something outside of a man's control even if he does everything right trying to vet for the right woman. For a lot of women these days, "Till death do us part" just means till I see a better guy so I can trade up and walk away with half of my ex-husband's assets...
@emmanuelnava6582
@emmanuelnava6582 9 ай бұрын
Bro, facts. I cant manifest playing in the NBA no matter how hard I try. Officer Tatum is alright but he smoking the devil’s lechuga with this take.
@emmanuelnava6582
@emmanuelnava6582 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention relationships are only at stake when the woman feels there’s something wrong. The man always has to suck it tf up or else you get laughed at.
@mr.fettesq.7705
@mr.fettesq.7705 9 ай бұрын
Yea...Tatum is arguing ideological in a world that divorces nost of the time. He's not divorced so he's got rose tinted glasses on. What is this "skin in the game" nonsense? For a guy YES...he's hot a lot of skin in the game. Which is why it's easy for women to leave and skin u alive. They lose nnothing. I like Officer Tatum but he's off base here. Marriage is very risky and he hardly acknowledges it.
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 9 ай бұрын
If a man wants a traditional woman he needs to get married because traditional women want that commitment.
@Arc-Tempo21
@Arc-Tempo21 9 ай бұрын
​@@ryanrogers8211 Which is fine, and I agree, but it should only be a religious marriage; a legal, state-sponsored one is not marriage - that is business. People advocating for marriage rarely delinate the two. It is why you are then summarily dismissed.
@Dtown3
@Dtown3 9 ай бұрын
Brian’s position is seemingly unfalsifiable. Tends to happen when your premises are too cynical and close minded
@richardy2071
@richardy2071 Ай бұрын
brian's position is based on data. men get destroyed in divorce. no fault divorce allows woman to pick a random day and go
@MelyMel8867
@MelyMel8867 9 ай бұрын
This mf is crazy. 100% of divorced men say that him and his wife are committed for life 🤣🤣🤣🤣 i don't think ANYONE that gets married initially thinks that their marriage will lead to a divorce but these days you have a higher chance of getting divorced than you do staying married. He's being paid lol He said it's on record.....ummmm yeah the records is what will get you at the end lmaoooooooo
@billya3628
@billya3628 9 ай бұрын
He's a joke.
@computerthrills
@computerthrills 9 ай бұрын
If either person won't be faithful without a ring. They won't be faithful with a ring. Nowadays, marriage is a contract of consequences for most men. With little to no enforcement of the contract concerning most women. "Having skin in the game" is mostly on the men's side. Women will take your skin if it doesn't work out.
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 9 ай бұрын
FACTS!
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 9 ай бұрын
If you want a traditional woman you need to give her the marriage commitment.
@JamesHall_II
@JamesHall_II 9 ай бұрын
@@ryanrogers8211Too bad the staggering majority of women aren’t traditional so they don’t qualify for marriage
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 8 ай бұрын
@@ryanrogers8211 Wrong. Like he said. If she can't be faithful without a ring then why waste time marrying her? This is common sense.
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 8 ай бұрын
@@josephsmiley1 traditional values dictate a lifelong marriage commitment. It has nothing to do with one’s inability to be faithful
@BrandonStrugy
@BrandonStrugy 9 ай бұрын
I respect both sides of this topic. I understand Brian's point of view and Brandon's point of view.
@byrdd_
@byrdd_ 9 ай бұрын
Marriage sounds good in theory, but the mindsets of this generation is trash. Too much risk
@RealTalkandRawTruth86
@RealTalkandRawTruth86 9 ай бұрын
I'm 50/50 with keeping Church in marriage .... That's between the man and women but I'm 100% take government out of marriage
@arijones9564
@arijones9564 9 ай бұрын
How can that work?
@RealTalkandRawTruth86
@RealTalkandRawTruth86 9 ай бұрын
@@arijones9564 shaping your marriage values and morals between you and your wife and what path you both want to walk but I think government needs to stay out of marriage 100%
@RealTalkandRawTruth86
@RealTalkandRawTruth86 9 ай бұрын
@@arijones9564 Church in marriage is whatever but government is a hell no
@arijones9564
@arijones9564 9 ай бұрын
@@RealTalkandRawTruth86 I can understand having a religious ceremony that is recognized by the community members (like polygamous Mormons do, for instance). However, what happens if/when there is a need to identify a benefactor for legal reasons? We live in a society governed by laws and responsibilities.
@crashthecat
@crashthecat 9 ай бұрын
Modern marriage forces men to stay while encouraging women to leave. This alone sets it up to fail and fucks with the power dynamic
@stacyshoemaker9177
@stacyshoemaker9177 8 ай бұрын
Right, the men should be the only ones with any power.
@crashthecat
@crashthecat 8 ай бұрын
@stacyshoemaker9177 to be honest, I'm talking simple gratitude for the roles we all play in life. A power DYNAMIC suggests a share system, I didn't say anything about men having more power. Economically perverting marriage through law and tax has done nothing but allow the 'elites' to destroy what used to bond us
@atf5813
@atf5813 5 ай бұрын
The problem is people are marrying women who are absolute gold diggers. If you find the perfect person in your eyes, you’ve gotten to know them and you think you could make the relationship work, why not get married? What you’re doing when you say you don’t want to get married is that you are telling her you don’t trust her. In order for you to truly love you woman you need to invest in them, and trust them 100%. You need skin in the game. I also like what Brandon said during the show, “If she leaves she gets 50%. If she stays she gets 100%”.
@alex47_in_downtown18
@alex47_in_downtown18 3 ай бұрын
@@atf5813 lol she leaves with way more than she came in with, marriage is just a sh*tty contract for men
@IndieGamerMonkey
@IndieGamerMonkey 9 ай бұрын
I'm with the both of them on this one. I'm FOR marriage, but the meaning of marriage has been diluted beyond reconciliation for us as a society. Now, it's up to ME to make the right choices and choose a woman that would define marriage the same way I do, it's just sad to see how far we've deviated from "until death do we part". Marriage isn't something you can walk away from.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
Amen!
@mr.g4272
@mr.g4272 9 ай бұрын
They fail to realize that feminism has kicked God out of marriage, and brought in the state instead. Even the Bible talks about how you cant serve two masters , because in the case of getting married. The state is involved in your business. Just like they kicked out prayer from school. It's society that has changed the marriage structure. Women may not even realize it, but they are incentivized to get divorced.
@stub4488
@stub4488 9 ай бұрын
But for women it's celebrated with parties and cash and prizes for leaving. And condemned when I guy leaves. Marriage means nothing to women...if it did you would see a push back against feminism.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
@@stub4488 stop being so black pilled. Get into a good church. Find a woman with values at said church. Wife her up. Have tons of kids. This is the way my friend. - 13 years in/five kids deep
@ssamudio7542
@ssamudio7542 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@stub4488that’s a very generalized statement. Not all women clearly as some women on this panel do agree with marriage. And not solely for financial benefits. And there is a pushback as of late against the toxic feminism mindset, there’s a small revolution occurring. It starts with women standing up and reminding others of what is morally correct not just politically correct which imo politics is corrupt so why does political correctness even matter atp. The celebration of divorces is extremely sad, which both sides take part in. People are idealizing/romanticizing the celebration of a wedding vs the work it takes to build and maintain a lifelong relationship. That is why these divorce parties come about bc it’s idealizing the celebration of something rather than rolling up your sleeves and working on something together with your partner.
@jasongonzalez5501
@jasongonzalez5501 8 ай бұрын
Also ... Brian got attacked by every 304 at the table causing him not to articulate what he really wants to say. He was interrupted soooooo many times. Brian wants to get married, he just doesn't want government involved.
@christheghoul
@christheghoul 9 ай бұрын
I agree with alot of takes that Tatum has, marriage is not one of them.
@JimmyStruthers1000
@JimmyStruthers1000 9 ай бұрын
Yeah hes a simp
@user-kcrpine
@user-kcrpine 9 ай бұрын
He’s auditioning for a daily wire show. It’s required that all employees be absolute khucks.
@tippycanoe9151
@tippycanoe9151 9 ай бұрын
As a married man with a child, we both have to work. We can’t afford a house with 2 incomes. Our rent has increased $400 in 3 years. We have a baby and it would not be possible. We both work full time. I suppose I could get a part time job (though if my job needs me, there’s not much of a choice). But if I got 2 jobs to attempt to support our entire family unit they would never see me. I would never get time with my wife or son. What sort of life is that? This economy is hitting the average American hard.
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 9 ай бұрын
Try to improve your situation. Start a side hustle and try to grow it, try moving to a cheaper area, take some classes to improve your marketability in your work field etc. It's possible.
@rodedoggz
@rodedoggz 9 ай бұрын
While i understand perfectly of why the host is against marriage but what he claims to want from a mostly traditional woman is unrealistic. Also, the guest is speaking very idealistically about the realities of marriage and is not understanding how emotional women can be😊
@jonathanyarbrough9756
@jonathanyarbrough9756 9 ай бұрын
Don't marry the wrong woman choose wisely 🙏
@neetpride5919
@neetpride5919 9 ай бұрын
Brian wouldn't have started this podcast if he wasn't a low-key MGTOW
@rodedoggz
@rodedoggz 9 ай бұрын
@@neetpride5919 I think he's a just a career KZfaqr who just follows where the money/views go while giving his socially inept opinions on dating.
@lazerbehm8681
@lazerbehm8681 9 ай бұрын
Marriage used to be a religious thing. Modern marriage isn't. Since the government got it's hands involved, it's only gone down hill! Morale is government doesn't fix things, it makes it worse!
@coleycole5344
@coleycole5344 9 ай бұрын
🎯
@odawgbrazy14
@odawgbrazy14 21 күн бұрын
Moral*
@louis-anthonymcdaniel946
@louis-anthonymcdaniel946 9 ай бұрын
Yo, Brian. You can still lose, even without the paperwork. Especially in a community property state like California. Go to a state(or country) that does not have common law marriage r regulations IF you ever decide to get hitched.
@CRS-fe2zj
@CRS-fe2zj 9 ай бұрын
California is not a community property state bro, having just become a tax preparer domestic partnerships are possible but they have tonbw filed for them the be recognized. Unless jackson hewitt just bs'd me haha
@louis-anthonymcdaniel946
@louis-anthonymcdaniel946 9 ай бұрын
@@CRS-fe2zj I stand corrected. I thought that Cali was still on community property. 🤔it has been 15 years since I lived in Sacramento.
@CRS-fe2zj
@CRS-fe2zj 9 ай бұрын
@louis-anthonymcdaniel946 u know what after reading on a couple of lawbfirm sites it looks like it is, but I think the understanding is off. You can't just lose property or assets without being married or being in a domestic partnership. Confusing lol sry man
@nolancho
@nolancho 9 ай бұрын
Im starting to wonder if he's actually weak or just dumb 🧐
@nathansullivan88
@nathansullivan88 8 ай бұрын
Where’s the confidence Brian, if you don’t wanna get married because you don’t wanna have a divorce, where’s your confidence in picking the right one, if someone told me this it would sound like you think it’s gonna fail from the beginning
@TheArbiterOfTruth
@TheArbiterOfTruth 9 ай бұрын
10:36 no, you can’t be a Christian and cohabitate without getting married Brian 😂
@elizabethh4329
@elizabethh4329 8 ай бұрын
THIS! people want to marry someone with the heart of Christ, mind of Christ & benefits of Christ without commitment to the commandments and laws of Christ.
@dlskoy1
@dlskoy1 9 ай бұрын
marriage is difficult and a risk...no doubt about it. Having successful relationships is absolutely a skill that can be developed. There is NOTHING more satisfying than weathering crazy, horrible circumstances as a couple and coming out the other end and being bonded more deeply by what you have accomplished as a team. Being all in is difficult because you are sacrificing all other options.
@vivekiyer9062
@vivekiyer9062 9 ай бұрын
You guys are thinking falsely that the 304 women in the west of this generation are going to be a good marriage partner and not walk out on you at the slightest sign of stress or trouble. I’ve been married 32 years but my advice to my son is never to get married in North America. I’ll be his biggest enemy if I didn’t look at reality of the court system in North America and the quality of women in this generation and still advocate marriage to him. My “intelligent” daughter is the exact opposite of what her mom is as a masculine, fighting woman and my wife is the one enabling her. Women are their own worst enemy is actually a saying in English which has no equivalent saying for men.
@kelsiecaswell9845
@kelsiecaswell9845 9 ай бұрын
Like officer Tatum said, the geeky nerd with glasses who’s into tech will find a woman that fits him too. That’s what I fell for, and I’m a nerd right there with him. Just had our second kiddo! :) ❤
@laidbacksage2574
@laidbacksage2574 9 ай бұрын
Do you think most geeky nerds have had the same success as you
@ctmckin
@ctmckin 9 ай бұрын
@@laidbacksage2574Probably not bc they’re trying to go for the IG models and then get their feelings hurt when she turns him down. If they’d go for women who enjoy most of the same things they like, they’d prob have more success.
@laidbacksage2574
@laidbacksage2574 9 ай бұрын
@@ctmckin I've never ever ever seen a geeky nerd try to get anything above a 6
@ctmckin
@ctmckin 9 ай бұрын
@@laidbacksage2574 I have
@yungk6043
@yungk6043 9 ай бұрын
@@laidbacksage2574If you actually GO OUTSIDE more often and make tons of friends. Youll find geeky, corny women that are 10's and that are FOR you.
@DaleCoreySanford
@DaleCoreySanford 9 ай бұрын
Wrong. You cannot be religious and teach those values to your children and NOT be married. That is not how the scriptures laid it out. Marriage was a religious institution for thousands of years and had a strong success rate. Then governments got involved and what do you know it began to crash and burn
@dmaverick2396
@dmaverick2396 9 ай бұрын
See what happened to Steve Harvey....Marriage is pure BS today. I do have a long term relationship... but NOT marriage.
@mutilated0507
@mutilated0507 9 ай бұрын
Brians right. Also the law doesnt favor men at all.
@yamomspancakebooty2265
@yamomspancakebooty2265 9 ай бұрын
Just because this guy’s happy doesn’t change the fact that if she gets bored, or cheats, or ‘falls out of love’ - she can utterly ruin him financially while experiencing little to no consequences while doing so. This is some female logic; because it feels good to him - it’s right 😅
@thrilla72
@thrilla72 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, he was talking nonsense. How old is he even?
@ImmortalBecoming
@ImmortalBecoming 9 ай бұрын
the boi would be most likely to cheat tho since they always want to go sowing their seed with their tiny master key and what not 💁‍♀️
@TheLaughingLi0n
@TheLaughingLi0n 9 ай бұрын
​@@ImmortalBecomingThis doesn't refute the OP's comment. Women on average can financially destroy men in courts on a whim.
@yamomspancakebooty2265
@yamomspancakebooty2265 9 ай бұрын
@@ImmortalBecoming not really; up to date surveys indicate that women cheat just as much, or more so - due to the advent of social media and ease of opportunity.
@deannas2778
@deannas2778 9 ай бұрын
@@TheLaughingLi0n if you disrespect me by cheating on me....Then yes. I will run you dry.
@SimpExterminator
@SimpExterminator 9 ай бұрын
It’s simple, get the marriage laws up to speed with 2023 where women are full on in the workforce as much (if not more) than men, they’re making their own money, and therefore no longer need that protection from the government! Why is that too much to ask for? I’m not opposed to marriage if my future woman wants it but as it stands in basically all western countries, it’s a horrible and unfair contract for practically any man to sign.
@Krazie316
@Krazie316 9 ай бұрын
Hard pass Officer Tatum...even so called "women of God" can and do screw men over; completely ignoring the inconveniences of the Word (inconvenient to them). Most of us probably agree that in a perfect world, marriage is great. The State being a third party, enforcing only one half of the contract (the woman's side) has ruined it.
@123bcastle
@123bcastle 9 ай бұрын
The amount of people who fail trying to start a business doesn't mean you shouldn't start a business
@Dragone38CM
@Dragone38CM 9 ай бұрын
You have control over the business you don’t have control over your marriage if your wife can divorce you at anytime for any reason. That would be like your business is going well and profitable, you’ve made your payments and the bank seizes it anyway because they felt like it.
@todddecoteau2547
@todddecoteau2547 8 ай бұрын
​@@Dragone38CMefuckingxactly
@todddecoteau2547
@todddecoteau2547 8 ай бұрын
​@@Dragone38CMthey all fail in thinking marriage still looks and operates the same as the 1920's
@williambontrager2349
@williambontrager2349 9 ай бұрын
Either remove the financial merger aspect of marriage or say you can only marry once legally. No fault divorce will always be around from now on.
@Imjgwentworth
@Imjgwentworth 9 ай бұрын
Maybe it would be different if women had something to lose. They usually lose nothing in divorce. Men lose everything
@BryJamie
@BryJamie 9 ай бұрын
What if you’ve only seen one example of a successful relationship that is standing the test of time, and the rest of the relationships you’ve seen growing up are all destroyed through divorce?
@ArtyMcMuffin
@ArtyMcMuffin 9 ай бұрын
I would be honest, marriage isn't the ultimate commitment, having kids is...a divorce can ends this and it's usually done, having kids mean you'll have to deal with your ex for all your life.
@John-gm8ty
@John-gm8ty 9 ай бұрын
no it doesn't.
@thrilla72
@thrilla72 9 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@thrilla72
@thrilla72 9 ай бұрын
​@@John-gm8tyit does, even when you are gone the kids will remain and attach your name to the mother's.
@ryanrogers8211
@ryanrogers8211 9 ай бұрын
to best set up your kids for success get married to their mother before they exist.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
False. Marriage is forever and children are a beautiful byproduct of said lifetime commitment.
@javiermorales365
@javiermorales365 9 ай бұрын
I think marriage is proclaiming to everyone that you are now a unit, but I do agree that the state shouldn’t be involved at all. If a divorce happens, unless infedelity or verbal and physical abuse is involved than there is no 50/50 nothing. No alimony no nothing. If you want out then your out. Simple terms if the wife or husband cheat then you pay alimony, physical abuse or verbal abuse alimony. If the woman just wants out cause she is bored, unhappy etc then she can leave but she gets absolutely nothing and the kids stay with the father period
@LILJROD90
@LILJROD90 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Michael Knowles divorce standard. I like it.
@Alison2436
@Alison2436 9 ай бұрын
get rid of no fault divorce. it should only be fault divorce
@KendraSmith087
@KendraSmith087 9 ай бұрын
Yep! It so simple. I don’t understand why we make it so complicated!
@munoz5426
@munoz5426 8 ай бұрын
Brian's premonition: " She's divorcing me" Middle girl in red: "No she's divorcing you" ME: "smh 🤦 wanna know how I know you're not paying attention?"
@itsacookie1
@itsacookie1 9 ай бұрын
Tatum keeps talking about "skin in the game" but where is his wives "skin in the game". Nothing in wrong with marriage, its the divorce process that is corrupt. We need to abolish alimony (you are not privilege to continue the same lifestyle you had during marriage if you leave said marriage), restructure how child custody is determined (the more mentally stable, financially responsible parent should be the default choice), itemize child support (child support is solely meant to support the child, not the adult), and change how division of assets is done (you come in with nothing, you leave with nothing, you come in with 50/50, you leave with 50/50 aka equality).
@the_all_blue_does_exist716
@the_all_blue_does_exist716 9 ай бұрын
I couldn't be on this panel. As soon as thry said "aren't you limiting your dating pool"? My immediate thought was idgaf about that.
@matthewallen1957
@matthewallen1957 9 ай бұрын
Marriage is a trap from my experience. I’ve known my wife since 6th grade. We were friends and even dated in Highs School. We’ve been together now for over 13 years and Married 7. Had a couple of kids and bought a house. Well a year after buying the house she wants out of the marriage and to take the kids. I’m hard working and provide for my family. I don’t pick fights with her. One day she just stopped calling me while I was away from home on the job. When I asked her she said she wasn’t happy anymore. Didn’t even try to work with me on fixing whatever it was bothering her. Now we live together for the kids but are separated. So yay! No love, affection, peace, or sex anymore. It all ends in my mid 30s.
@CJP.-pq3kr
@CJP.-pq3kr 9 ай бұрын
Marriage only works if you and your partner are religious. It is a covenant with each other and before God. If not, it's just a meaningless legal contract you can break at any moment.
@josiahbutler2254
@josiahbutler2254 9 ай бұрын
if your wife is no longer happy then you dropped the ball, you as the man have to keep your wife happy and let her know she is valued, and shes not happy because shes probably feeling lonely, if your away from home and gone thats not good for a woman normally, she wants her husband holding her at night and protecting her when she is sleeping, i wouldnt wanna deal with that either, but trust and believe she finna take yo ass to court so get ready😂😂, she finna take you to the cleaners! alimony and child support 😍😍😍
@CRS-fe2zj
@CRS-fe2zj 9 ай бұрын
​@@josiahbutler2254dude u win the biggest dmbfk award of the weekend with this comment. The house and kids and the willingness to leave to work and provide for his family wasn't worth it?. Truth is you can't force someone to be happy, they have to find their own reasons to be happy. Majority of divorces are initiated by women to the tune of 80%
@AK-wl8gm
@AK-wl8gm 9 ай бұрын
@@CRS-fe2zjyou’re absolutely brain dead. Yes, women leave because despite “providing” they’re being treated like shit. Notice how OP doesn’t take a single ounce of responsibility and has zero self awareness. He will be miserable for life due to being insufferable yet will point the finger at everyone who leaves him, as if he is the victim. It’s a disease and instead of getting over it your kind will die off. Women will choose the men who will actually be partners. Not entitled babies.
@stacyshoemaker9177
@stacyshoemaker9177 8 ай бұрын
@@CRS-fe2zjMen will suffer and make everyone around them suffer before they admit they fucked up and should leave. They’ll cheat and stay. How is that better?
@basementdwellers2231
@basementdwellers2231 9 ай бұрын
In reality TV, some shows have you sign a contract where you can't leave or discuss anything or you'll be forced to pay.
@Gchild2k6
@Gchild2k6 9 ай бұрын
@Tatum You are wrong. 100% of the guys who got divorce went in there positive believing she would never leave, that it would last etc and they still got divorced. Stop lying.
@user-ui4cu6fy4i
@user-ui4cu6fy4i 9 ай бұрын
“My parents been married 45 years” that’s beautiful! That’s amazing! But do you know what’s beautiful about that? The relationship. Not the fuckin contract. People getting together, happily staying together and having kids is a blessing, who could possibly be against that? the piece of paper is what I take issue with. The contract that tells you if you ever decide split up (because humans grow apart sometimes, it’s normal and natural) you will go through HELL
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
It’s not about “a piece of paper”. It’s about making a lifetime oath in front of god, your family/community and the lifetime commitment to yourself and your spouse. Meet the right church going woman, wife her up and have tons of kids. This is the way my friend.
@user-ui4cu6fy4i
@user-ui4cu6fy4i 9 ай бұрын
@@John3_16_ I’m not talking about marriage as an oath between the couple and God. I’m talking about the legal contract of marriage involving the state. That’s what I’m against
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
@@user-ui4cu6fy4i yes, the state should definitely not be involved with marriage.
@bryant475
@bryant475 9 ай бұрын
As a Christian, I agree with the importance of marriage. It can be a risk, but with a compatible woman it shouldn't be. Also, nice to see BT on here!
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 8 ай бұрын
Simply calling it a risk is an understatement.
@notthefather3919
@notthefather3919 8 ай бұрын
Uhh, as a realist, you shouldn't tell men to take that risk because you're not going to cover their loses if things go south.
@bryant475
@bryant475 8 ай бұрын
@@notthefather3919 That's why it's important to marry the right person, and the important issues need to be hashed out early on in the "dating" stage.
@PjBarnessutv
@PjBarnessutv 8 ай бұрын
The back of that laptop looks like a graphic
@IBbrezzy101
@IBbrezzy101 9 ай бұрын
But your wife can just decide to walk away at anytime.
@vexu7366
@vexu7366 9 ай бұрын
Technically you could have a marriage ceremony without legally getting married. The only benefits I see of marriage are being able to put your spouse on your health benefits cuz good health benefits are hard to come by in the US 😅 otherwise, no piece of paper is going to stop a person from being a shitty partner.
@SherrickDuncan
@SherrickDuncan 9 ай бұрын
What you just described is called Biblical and or Historical marriage. And has existed for 6,000 years of recorded human history. And divorce was nearly non existent before Government involvement. And the health insurance and power of attorney and tax benefits and will b.s is all legally accomplishable without a government marriage contract.
@Menace2Society9
@Menace2Society9 9 ай бұрын
Health benefits are great... its people that are bad with money, that want sh*t handed to them "free" if not damn near... you can spend all this money on pure bs but can't pay $500 for insurance.... we literally have the biggest market for it and it has EVERYTHING. From cheap to most expensive. From a lot covered to barely anything... People just think Healthcare is a right and that they shouldn't have to pay for their own life and things that come up... "Life's hard,get a helmet" Use it embrace it... The fact you say the benefits are so low but then say if I get on my husband's plan I get good benefits... the only "good benefit" you are getting that is different is- who's paying that bill.... Stop wanting to be a leech and pay for your own... if you truly can't afford it, there's medicaid which covers a fk ton... I got it before to cover a surgery that would cost well over 100k(all things included in the price, visits and so on). I wouldn't have to pay a DIME. The tax payers fund it. Ps: I didn't get the surgery btw. Also emergency rooms are essentially free and the must legally treat you. But you don't legally have to pay the bill. It doesn't go on your credit score either..
@aisherwasher6959
@aisherwasher6959 9 ай бұрын
​@@SherrickDuncan don't know how far back you're looking, but divorce was enough of a thing before 1400 BC that divorce laws were mentioned in the Old Testament Book of Dueteronomy. And religious oversight in the past is widely believed to be equivalent to government oversight today
@SherrickDuncan
@SherrickDuncan 9 ай бұрын
@aisherwasher6959 you are literally responding to a message in which My first words were BIBLICAL MARRIAGE HAS EXISTED FOR 6,000 YEARS and then y9u actually attempted to imply that you were teaching Me something new when you referenced from a few thousand year old book of the Bible. Gaslight much? No Biblical marra9ge and divorce laws are not equal to Pagan marriage and divorce laws. Because Biblical marriage does not require a permission slip from the state. Or the signing of any contracting allowing an emotions and feelings lead woman to have power over y9ur money/your property/your children or even over if and when she gets divorced. Only a Man may file for divorce in the Bible. And only if the wife has commited some uncleanness i.e sexual immorality / adultery. There was absolutely no no fault divorce being filed by women in the Bible. There was zero divorce settlement or alimony or child support awarded to the person filing the divorce let alone to a woman. So no monitary incentivisation of divorce existed. Amd there eas no defacto custody awarded to any woman. Children were defacto the property of the Man. So before these reasons the 9 out of 10 divorces filed by women that exist in government marriage did not occur. And divorce was almost non existent. And only happened when a wife committed adultery. Nothing you said refuted anything that I said or even provided Me with any new information that I did not already state in what you are replying to.
@vexu7366
@vexu7366 9 ай бұрын
@musicman7935 This is obviously personal to you lmao and it's very clear that you have little to no understanding of the health insurance market in North America. Perhaps stop taking the word of the government and actually take a look at the plans being offered, their plan descriptions, and their premiums - it doesn't take a genius to see that what's being offered is in fact not even remotely worth the price let alone affordable. And if you can dish out $500 a month, plus out of pocket expenses, deductibles, etc. to pay for private insurance directly through an insurance company, then kudos to you. That, however, is not the majority of American citizens, specifically those that actually intend to, or need to, use that coverage. Otherwise, it simply depends on what benefits your employer is offering. This again doesn't take a genius to conclude. It's not necessarily about the price but rather the coverage itself. Did I ever mention premiums? No. You decided to project your own life issues into my light-hearted comment. Perhaps you should seek out someone to help you with that through your awesome health benefits 🤷‍♀️
@nashaelindseth8526
@nashaelindseth8526 8 ай бұрын
Brian you didn’t hear anything Brandon said rewatch this and really let it sink in. Marriage is essential for a GOOD woman. Good luck with your wedlock children who will deal with the horrible inevitable end that you feel WILL happen. You make a commitment for the right woman and for your children.
@ZekeRodriguezshow
@ZekeRodriguezshow 8 ай бұрын
They arguing over stupid shit. Its simple, I ain’t given up half my shit over a coin flips chance of utter hell being unleashed on my livelihood.
@darkbringer1440
@darkbringer1440 9 ай бұрын
Brandon keeps talking about skin in the game but makes arguments that don't account for the fact that modern legal marriage results only in men having any skin in the game. These days it is a commitment of a man to a woman but not the other way around.
@hangry265
@hangry265 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like a lot of Brian’s decisions, at least this one, is fear-based. That’s a horrible way to live.
@lordkroak6670
@lordkroak6670 9 ай бұрын
He talks about not taking giant risks like marriage yet started a podcast like this. Yes it became very successful but was still a massive risk. At any moment his show could collapse from under him (just like a marriage divorce could) and he will be left with nothing. So I don’t see how he is afraid of marriage, but one wrong thing and his whole show falls apart.
@sircw-js6ny
@sircw-js6ny 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. Fear can paralyze you. Put a hold to everything...He'll never find anyone like that. And like Tatum and the other ladies said...since he's always in the midst of negativity (like talking to the porn stars) thats plays alot mentally. To me Its always in the back of his mind like he may end up with one of them if he does get married. He compares himself to other guys. I think if he takes a break from the podcast to reevaluate himself he'll be alright, but would he be willing to....🤔
@hangry265
@hangry265 5 ай бұрын
no i don't think he would. I think he enjoys sticking it to these women too much to give it up yet. There's some part of him that it feeds or he wouldn't still be doing it. He seems to like a "gotcha" or "um, actually" moment and coming out on top to feed his narrative of the world. We all like to be proven right, right?@@sircw-js6ny
@charlesstockford6003
@charlesstockford6003 9 ай бұрын
For guys never get married. Women don't give up anything until you're married. Marriage is not in the favor of men. Women always get to get their severance check.
@projectdohctur8798
@projectdohctur8798 8 ай бұрын
The truth is, "good women" file for divorce. I married a girl who worked in the church, wasn't cheating, wasn't abusive, she still left. I'm sorry but Brian is right to be hesitant. If you find a woman who doesn't divorce, you have found a unicorn 🦄. But the truth is that almost half of marriages file for divorce and 70% of those are women who filed. It's super risky and women spoiled it for good men. Doesn't mean you can't try and it doesn't mean it won't work out, but Brian isnt being unreasonable.
@QDProd1
@QDProd1 7 ай бұрын
are you a believer?
@RealTalkandRawTruth86
@RealTalkandRawTruth86 9 ай бұрын
It is the greatest and best decision you can make in your life as a man if you can find the right woman
@skoden8353
@skoden8353 9 ай бұрын
Until the state holds people to those vows and make you stay married......Its just a piece of paper that legally ties you to a financial obligation even after marriage. I agree that piece of paper isnt necessary if you are truly committed.
@user-xt2oj4hi4s
@user-xt2oj4hi4s 9 ай бұрын
State marriage is an L for men in the US. Don’t do it. Religious marriage is way better
@carsonprince9848
@carsonprince9848 8 ай бұрын
Never get married. Too many losses.
@MexicanApachemiwok777
@MexicanApachemiwok777 9 ай бұрын
As someone who wants nothing to do with women, this is an absolute win. Not gay either.
@jlolson53
@jlolson53 9 ай бұрын
@jlolson53 1 second ago But you represent the toxic, self-defeating part of the manosphere. Intelligent and rational manospherians understand that women are not the enemy. They are our allies in love if you'll excuse the sentimentality. :)
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
Who hurt you?
@MexicanApachemiwok777
@MexicanApachemiwok777 9 ай бұрын
@@John3_16_ no one, absolutely no one.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
@@MexicanApachemiwok777 why do you want nothing to do with women then?
@MexicanApachemiwok777
@MexicanApachemiwok777 9 ай бұрын
@@John3_16_ they annoy me. They don't have anything to bring to the table except promiscuity.
@bassikproform2391
@bassikproform2391 9 ай бұрын
If there was one piece of advice my dad drilled into me growing up it was that “The leading cause of divorce is marriage”
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
Good gravy. Your dad failed you if that’s what you’ve taken away from him. Who have you dated? Where have you met these women?
@NphiniT
@NphiniT 9 ай бұрын
That's like saying "There are more sick people in hospitals than anywhere else. Let's get rid of hospitals". 🙄
@garrettgriffin4974
@garrettgriffin4974 9 ай бұрын
It's true that statistically 100% of divorced people were married at some point. You can't get divorced if you don't get married. (And, no, I'm not an incel; I'm a volcel. There IS a difference.)
@bassikproform2391
@bassikproform2391 9 ай бұрын
@@NphiniT clearly a joke holy my bad I forgot about the level of intelligence that hangs out in this comment section 😂
@Agent_Chieftain
@Agent_Chieftain 9 ай бұрын
It's really sad that members of the conservative right can be sitting right across the table from the absolute state of modern women in the world today, and still say that men should get married.
@thomasdowns6549
@thomasdowns6549 8 ай бұрын
I made a life time commitment, but my wife want 8 other men while i was away as a Soldier and Deputy Sheriff for 33 years and she left me out of the blue.
@raizen21ss56
@raizen21ss56 9 ай бұрын
Get rid of the marriage laws, just kick the state out completely and eliminate all benefits of divorce do all that and marriage rates will go back up.
@Dtown3
@Dtown3 9 ай бұрын
What r u talking about? Marriage is a public institution. There’s legal implications, benefits, etc to being married lol. The state has to be involved self-evidently
@raizen21ss56
@raizen21ss56 9 ай бұрын
@dwayneo18 then marriage rates will continue to decline. You need to provide incentives if you want people to do something and not 1 sided incentives that only benefit 1 of the 2 if the marriage results in a divorce. As a man there's nothing for me to gain but half of my stuff to lose
@coleycole5344
@coleycole5344 9 ай бұрын
Tatum is giving dangerous advice. Marriage is for rearing children and does not require the state and all that 'skin in the game' crap. If all the chicks on a Whatever panel are agreeing with you, there's a problem.
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 9 ай бұрын
Problem is he's not here to be genuine he's here to passive aggressively push back on RP ideologies. It's literally how his name blew up. All he does is make hit pieces with anti RP talking points. Just listen to how he obnoxiously uses the words "mature men". You can see right through the bullshit.
@manuelchalas7957
@manuelchalas7957 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@josephsmiley1your lying, he’s not even part of this red pill, blue pill community. He made his name as a conservative political commentator. What he doesn’t like about the red pill ideology is that it focuses too much on the superficial and justifies it by saying that it doesn’t want men to be lazy and high value men that are idolized are often ones with no lasting marriage just a lot of money and options when in reality high value men are ones who can protect, provide, and only want ONE woman.
@raielle
@raielle 9 ай бұрын
Just like Stephen Crowder, Tatum's day will come where his wife gets bored of him, and she does the same thing to him that Stephen crowder's wife did. and all of a sudden reality is gonna hit him and I am just going to laugh. Kate, I'm also defended that 1 officer that went in to save his wife At that 1 Texas shooting. Meanwhile, the cops were all preventing parents from defending their own children as they stood outside doing nothing.
@acegear
@acegear 9 ай бұрын
they should update the alimony law if that the person who earn more only pays 1/4 of the duration of the marriage dont matter whois at fault and child support should be paid if they show receipts and he can contest that the gucci bag is not for the kids expenses
@raielle
@raielle 9 ай бұрын
Or atleast force the 'winner' of cash and prizes (the woman) that she has to account for every single expense to the penny. And if a single penny is spent on anything the money isnt intended for, she loses it permanently.@@acegear
@stylishrock7633
@stylishrock7633 9 ай бұрын
Brian dont listen to all these simps around. You are an intelligent guy bro, just look at the stats, look at the current situation and then do your assessment. This simps will die by finding their wife is brutally cheating on them also taking away 75-80% of their wealth as a gift for the cheating. You don't want that to be happened with you. So please dont listen to them. W is nothing but a nastiest trap around.
@tygon13
@tygon13 9 ай бұрын
Wait ten years and this guy's tune will change.... All you have to do is wait until he gets that divorce, that his now wife will file. 🤷
@lieutenantcommanderdata1418
@lieutenantcommanderdata1418 9 ай бұрын
He made a horrible argument for marriage
@ey242
@ey242 9 ай бұрын
i met my now wife when we were both 18 , we got a flat together after 3 months . we raised 2 children to adulthood and married 21 years to the day of our first meeting with our eldest son as best man . my advice to todays men, never give the state or a woman more control over your life/wealth then they already have in many cases they are not worthy and will squander both . as for my better half (she earned that title) ,our relationship is 39years old "so far" stronger then ever before and thats to her credit (love her to bits)
@stacyshoemaker9177
@stacyshoemaker9177 8 ай бұрын
So do you regret not legitimizing her sooner?
@Katya.Shishkyl24
@Katya.Shishkyl24 9 ай бұрын
Officer Tatum 100% has the right idea! He’s a true man and a man that’s respected! Brian if you meet the right woman one who you trust and holds marriage as a long term forever commitment I think your mind will be changed. My husband and I value our marriage and we both are fully invested into it. We have three kids and we 100% work our shit out there is no other option. We’re happy, sure we piss each other off from time to time but love is a choice and we choose to love everyday. We refuse to fail. Being Geeky is not going to get you divorced Brian that doesn’t make you less than! Plenty of women would go for that long term, just find a genuine and real woman…they’re out there.
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 9 ай бұрын
This dude is living by the "won't happen to me" fallacy. He's operating on feelings and if there's one truth in the world it's that facts don't care about your feelings. The second he said body counts don't matter, but he didn't want to know his wife's out of fear was when he exposed himself as being disingenuous.
@LIQUIDSNAKEz28
@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, NO. Tatum is an idealistic tool who always has a very basic 4ss, low IQ perspective on things. 🥱
@jman8802
@jman8802 9 ай бұрын
I like the ideal for a perfect world, but thats not reality
@raielle
@raielle 9 ай бұрын
Ah, I see you've chosen the Steven Crowder path. Well lets see how his marriage is doing ... oh wait..
@Katya.Shishkyl24
@Katya.Shishkyl24 9 ай бұрын
@@raielle actually I don’t like crowder…🤣 I think the guy has some serious life changes to make. Nice try though! I do however like officer Tatum!
@jasonhendricks4562
@jasonhendricks4562 8 ай бұрын
I think Brian is right-on (although maybe he could explain it better). Ask yourself, what does marriage mean? These women think it means "we become hubby and wife yayy!!". They're not thinking happily ever after. Because, guess what - the moment you mention marriage where divorce isn't part of the equation, there's a feminist near by to scream "Misogyny! Patriarchy!" But that's what marriage is supposed to be! It's supposed to be a commitment! And not only that, but a HOLY promise. So yeah, the state shouldn't be involved - and for as long as divorce is possible (outside of extenuating circumstances) then marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper, signed off by the government, saying that your wife will take half your stuff if you guys get divorced - especially for some bullshit reason like if she claims you abuse her when you don't.
@_chemicalbeat_
@_chemicalbeat_ 6 ай бұрын
Funny cause my mom's cousin actually had to pay alimony to her husband after divorcing, because she made more than him. She divorced after 30 years, because he became very controlling of her, wouldn't let her see her family, yelled at her constantly, etc. Marriage can absolutely hurt women. Especially with sickness, look at the stats and data of wives & girlfriends getting diseased or chronically ill and you'll see a way higher prevalence of men abandoning a sick spouse than the other way around. Marriage is absolutely a risk, for women & men, but it's a risk only some are willing to take.
@raizen21ss56
@raizen21ss56 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I couldve argued far better than Brian did here.
@ZukkoChat813
@ZukkoChat813 9 ай бұрын
Same here
@Arciniega5k5
@Arciniega5k5 9 ай бұрын
I’m pro marriage but I am confused about these people giving advice when they’ve only been married less than 10 years. My wife and I had the most conflict (as most marriages) at the 7 year mark. We pushed through and we are in love. They can’t really say “divorce is not in the equation”, it shouldn’t at 3 years, that’s the honeymoon stage.
@saveyagregory25
@saveyagregory25 9 ай бұрын
I would say marriage or not you will always have a struggle around year 7.
@Arciniega5k5
@Arciniega5k5 9 ай бұрын
@@saveyagregory25 so true
@cf4718
@cf4718 9 ай бұрын
Have a religious ceremony claiming your commitment together without the law/state being involved. It can be a religious union without it being a legal union. Brian should of asked her if she would be ok getting married under religion without the law being involved.
@aisherwasher6959
@aisherwasher6959 9 ай бұрын
I'd be curious how many Christain pastors would perform that ceremony knowing the couple doesn't plan on filing a marriage certificate
@lordkroak6670
@lordkroak6670 9 ай бұрын
@@aisherwasher6959I could be wrong because I’m not a lawyer, but I think it’s illegal at least when filing taxes or doing W2/I9’s to say you are married without the marriage license. You could be married religiously but not in the eyes of the state. To them you can be still viewed as single and commit tax fraud. Though anyone with law experience please correct me if I am wrong. I was just going by a gut feeling.
@cf4718
@cf4718 8 ай бұрын
@@aisherwasher6959 just have to change the old failed paradigm to the better one. Funny how church and state get involved with each other when they shouldn’t be 😉.
@cf4718
@cf4718 8 ай бұрын
@@lordkroak6670 No one should want to be married in the eyes of the state/government as the laws to handled divorce are ancient and not up to date to current times. Never have an entity that can’t keep current manage legal matters that need to be dealt with present times.
@mikekirkhoff4017
@mikekirkhoff4017 9 ай бұрын
This whole argument ends with one name, Steve Harvey
@meattooth1303
@meattooth1303 9 ай бұрын
i never thought i was going to marry. including when i was this guy's age. when i was 31, i met the lady i married 3 years later. getting married forces you to work thru problems before splitting. without it, i may have bailed on my wife years ago (her was well) but today, i am very glad i did not. 53 now and unless things change drastically, i do not see divorce being on the table.
@devilslayer3548
@devilslayer3548 8 ай бұрын
If you needed marriage to make you work though problems that said a lot about you and that’s sad
@injoilife32
@injoilife32 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the legal documents of marriage matter so much if a couple is marrying solely based on love. A couple can still have a wedding and do everything that a legal marriage would do, without bringing in the state. The ring, wedding dress, celebration with friends and family, etc. can all still happen.
@praxis4375
@praxis4375 9 ай бұрын
if you don't plan on having kids, everything you said is well and good. if you _do_ plan on having children, then you're already involving the state, so not wanting to get married at that point is asinine. furthermore, having children outside of marriage is degenerate behavior.
@DeeRio9546
@DeeRio9546 9 ай бұрын
@@praxis4375I was about to say this lol. If you’re having kids and not married you look bad. Men and women and also for tax purposes don’t you benefit more from being married and having kids? Idk if I don’t have a ring on my finger I’m not doing wife stuff for a man. Made that mistake too many times. If a man already has the cow why would he buy the milk. If I’m doing wife stuff without a ring I’m basically just his mom
@user-ui4cu6fy4i
@user-ui4cu6fy4i 9 ай бұрын
@@praxis4375divorce traumatizes children and puts parents in a worse position. A marriage is bound to end and it will either end in death or divorce, it most likely ends in divorce around 7-8 years. Marriage as a moral obligation is ridiculous. Most people should not get married. Virtue signaling is not convincing
@Arc-Tempo21
@Arc-Tempo21 9 ай бұрын
​@praxis4375 You failed to link the legal marriage to children and then hard-turned into a non-sequitur coupled with shaming; well done, you failed on 3 fronts. Tell me then: the stats reflect that the state takes the legality issue of children and applies it fairly to both partners, correct? Also, he mentioned marriage minus the state, so in what way did that translate, in your incapable mind, _outside_ of marriage? Finally, do you plan on addressing how adding the state makes a marriage 'different'? Just the utmost fatherless behavior.
@Arc-Tempo21
@Arc-Tempo21 9 ай бұрын
​@@DeeRio9546 1: He mentioned married. The question was about the legal contract; you all don't appear to understand that 'marriage' isn't the contract, it's the union. I believe it is because you are not religious and don't understand the purpose of marriage, so your marriage is doomed to fail, should you ever be in one. 2: No. The tax "benefits" are a wash. You spend more as a couple, so comparatively to single people, married people lose more money. Also, taxation is theft, especially since it isn't representing the people's will. 3: if you need a legal contract (again, he said the ring can be given without it), and you just 'turn off' wifely "behaviors," then you are not a wife. My behavior doesn't change because a woman in the past decided to slight me and take advantage of my protective and provisional nature. What it DID do, however, is make me more selective and pointed with my needs, desires, and responsibilities. You are not a wife -- and that's fine. But this isn't your arena to speak in.
@endo8886
@endo8886 9 ай бұрын
It should be hard as hell to get married, and easy as hell to leave, women killed marriages. The only reason a man should consider marriage, is if you both want kids!!!
@almightyredskull
@almightyredskull 9 ай бұрын
Solution, don't get married through the state. Have a private ceremony.
@rickem263
@rickem263 9 ай бұрын
married guys have to be pro marriage or their wives will divorce them. never listen to the married guy. they have a lot to lose if they say what they REALLY want to say about marriage.
@charlie-mia2410
@charlie-mia2410 9 ай бұрын
Personally I would say the difference between a long term committed relationship and a marriage is the “things” becoming “ours”. To elaborate, in a relationship you still have individualism, your house, your car, your money, your friends, however when you’re married it becomes, our house, our cars, our money, our friends. In a marriage pronouns turn to “we” “us” and “our”. There is nothing wrong with deciding to not marry or to marry. I personally view it as the next natural stage in a relationship where you become one instead of being two
@OliveCandy38
@OliveCandy38 9 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@13Hazy
@13Hazy 9 ай бұрын
Well said
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 8 ай бұрын
This is the problem you women only see all the mushy feelings of fleeting love and act based on that. Men see beyond that. In recent history marriage and divorce laws have been devastating for men. The reality is that marriage is a liability for modern men. Everything is "ours" and "us" till it isn't. Till one day she wakes up and decides that after 13 years she wants to "explore herself" and she's going to take your kids in the middle of the night without a word and leave or god forbid work gets tough and you have to cut costs back.
@OliveCandy38
@OliveCandy38 8 ай бұрын
@@josephsmiley1women are born natural nurturers ("mushy") especially because we literally carry the young in our body for 10 months straight. You can't even begin to imagine what that does to your psyche until you've personally been through it. Our species will not survive without these mushy nurterers. And question, how many men do you personally know that this has happened to? Because I know 100's and 100's AND 100'S of married couples and I don't know a single husband this has happened to. Now there are a few women who have been burned badly by their husbands. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I certainly don't think it happens on the scale that you are explaining it as. And I don't believe that it warrants the intense fear for single men out there. Men, do not give in to this kind of fear. Be brave.
@TheLilsamrules
@TheLilsamrules 6 ай бұрын
You don’t need to be married to do that tho lol
@Emmanuel_Amoah
@Emmanuel_Amoah 9 ай бұрын
Possibility vs probability. To each their own. Life is generally hard, so choose your subsets of ‘hard’ which will be worth the commitment.
@taxi9554
@taxi9554 9 ай бұрын
Women change their minds….so never get married. Speaking as a divorced man. Look on the actions and not what women say. They often lying to themself without noticing
@SlabbyPatty
@SlabbyPatty 9 ай бұрын
I’m in the camp of if you want a traditional woman who plays a traditional role in the relationship you have to give her a marriage. If I was just dating someone and he was like “I want you to quit your job, stay home and raise the kids, cook, clean, etc.” I would have to be like “cool we have to be married first.” I’m not going to quit my job, create a gap in my resume, have no back up in funds for the potential for a man to just walk out on me. At least with marriage if he wants to leave he’s gotta pay alimony. Help bridge the gap of what one is giving up for the other. Just because there’s a high divorce rate doesn’t mean high value women are the one divorcing. You could probably correlate divorce with boss b*tches that don’t need no man. Find you a quality woman with good morals and good values and divorce should be the least of your concerns.
@J05TI
@J05TI 9 ай бұрын
I don't think it could be summed up better than that! If you want a traditional partner, you should be a traditional partner yourself and want a traditional relationship.
@vegashawkfan59
@vegashawkfan59 8 ай бұрын
I agree with what you're saying, but the fact that you state that "...if he wants to leave he's gotta pay alimony," is a problem. I understand what you're saying - you're sacrificing portions of your career (the most important thing in a modern person's life...) and all, but you're going into the relationship knowing that you've got an out via divorce. Brandon said it very well, "...divorce is not in the equation." That is the only mindset (and it's required by both partners) that will work for a functional and happy marriage.
@jmiyagi12345
@jmiyagi12345 8 ай бұрын
It’s the same argument he makes for not paying: You want a traditional man, but you are not traditional. Except here he wants a traditional woman but he is not traditional.
@timizo691
@timizo691 9 ай бұрын
I love Tatum, but he is so wrong on this. My ex wife said forever to me and God. Those vows meant nothing to her. She replaced me with another man two months after we separated. I hope his wife doesn’t change her mind.
@foreveryoung_2019
@foreveryoung_2019 8 ай бұрын
He’s not wrong, you just had a bad experience.
@todddecoteau2547
@todddecoteau2547 8 ай бұрын
​@@foreveryoung_2019CDC divorce statistics of 80% of married women leaving says it's NOT anecdotal experiences. Men are punished for being divorced. Women are rewarded. Deal with it with wisdom. Not emotions, rainbows, and butterflies
@todddecoteau2547
@todddecoteau2547 8 ай бұрын
​@@foreveryoung_2019if my wife of 13 years leaves.... I'm fucked... If I leave... I'm STILL fucked.
@brenna6828
@brenna6828 8 ай бұрын
One of the best episodes yet
@breakthecode1126
@breakthecode1126 9 ай бұрын
I tried to explain living in our means to my ex. She just always wanted more. For some people this social media lifestyle is their life.
@ignacioromero76
@ignacioromero76 9 ай бұрын
Bryan dropped the ball hard this time, he had several easy ones and didnt go for the kill
@vinnyp9877
@vinnyp9877 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone else gets it. Brian is speaking facts.
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
Brian is a black pilled coomer on relationships. Fear is not the same as “facts”.
@purplelove3666
@purplelove3666 9 ай бұрын
If he is speaking fact,then don't get with a woman, leave them alone
@John3_16_
@John3_16_ 9 ай бұрын
@@purplelove3666 precisely. Don’t be part of the problem.
@orlandotoussaint6851
@orlandotoussaint6851 8 ай бұрын
Get “the lead attorney “ in the show. Great KZfaqr and can give you a great perspective in this convo
@chrisburrows9758
@chrisburrows9758 9 ай бұрын
If they made every state a at fault state, along with limiting alimony and child support then marriage would be seen more favorable by men.
@Chilltechvibes
@Chilltechvibes 9 ай бұрын
Im speaking from a place of bias. But I've been married 13 years and it was the best decision ever. I do however have alot of divorced friends. But i knew every single one of them would end in divorce. Either the guy was the type who wanted to still mess around but still got married or a good guy who married a trash woman. There are exceptions to this rule. But it seems pretty easy to spot who will and wont make it before they even get married.
@2403rygar
@2403rygar 9 ай бұрын
I am with you on this. I have been married 17 years to an awesome woman. Best decision ever. Definitely could have predicted a lot of my friends' divorces.
@jlolson53
@jlolson53 9 ай бұрын
Brian is living in a fantasy world believing that the odds are not astronomical that he'll find some woman willing to shack up with him indefinitely.
@zapstrapsnmudflaps8609
@zapstrapsnmudflaps8609 9 ай бұрын
That's kinda gay bro
@coleycole5344
@coleycole5344 9 ай бұрын
Wow. You simps avoid topics with lame insults just like your goddesses do.
@see22mice
@see22mice 9 ай бұрын
​@@zapstrapsnmudflaps8609😅😅😅😅😅
@injoilife32
@injoilife32 9 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️ indefinitely? If marriage makes it definite then what's up with divorce rates today?
@jlolson53
@jlolson53 9 ай бұрын
My point was that Brian wants in essence a marriage without a marriage: a long-term or lifelong relationship with a good woman who is okay with no marriage. Such women may exist - but it would be an extremely reduced population vs good women who want marriage (formal commitment). Thus the high level of improbability that Brian will find this fantasy girl. But then, as well-considered as Brian may be on the male-female relationship, he is NOT a good example for men or women seeking long-term, stable relationships such as Tatum recommends and enjoys (as do I). @@injoilife32
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