Thanks for this. Looks very interesting. Have you tried video editing in dV Resolve using the Geekom?

Would have loved to see a comparison of a video project rendered times between these units. Davinci or capcut.

I actually like this system might sell my MacBook Pro, buy one of these and pocket the difference thank you so much for the review

the pc sounds pretty amazing, yet I am not sold this is a super computer for everyday life. Would love to see some real life examples. What kinda chipset are they using? what is the speed of the ram and the drive? I'm a Windows guy, but I would be shocked if this little box did beat the Mac mini for music production. There is a program called Latency Mon - I would love to see how this box reports back

Interesting. You videos r cool and helpful. I have question plz which is , does this support Egpu through the type-c port ?

Thank you my friend.

Thank you for reviewing our product. It's an interesting comparision haha. Your feedback on GEEKOM products is highly valuable to us!😉

One of the benefits of having a MacMini versus a PC is that all of Apple's software is so nicely integrated. I can use my iPad in conjunction with my Mini. I know there are Windows equivalent apps out there but I've dealt with stuff like that years ago. This little PC is one that I would consider for friends who on't want to do Apple.

Good video! Just got a new sub

Hi, what about thermals, especially under sustained load? That small pc looks like it can throttle like crazy!

So would you recommend this for a person modeling 3d heigh end models in blender. I'm looking to purchase a laptop or desktop to make action figures in blender.

Got a Mac mini and a Mini PC, they feel totally different. 920 Euros: My Mac mini M2, sitting on a vertical stand that contains an NVME slot. So the specs are 256GB + 1TB Crucial P5 and 16GB RAM. This beast is silent. 547 Euros: My Mini PC Barebone with Ryzen 7 7840HS and Kingston Fury 32GB RAM + Crucial P5 500GB. It looks cool (made a KZfaq short), has a 90mm Fan which is not whiny but far from silent.

Sorry, but the two USB-A ports on the backside of the Mac mini are 10Gbit! Not USB2. Besides it depends, what you want to do with a mini PC. The primary reason to buy a Mac should be the software you want to use. 2.5 times as fast, not 2.5 times faster.... 2.25 times the powerdraw longterm and 3 times the powerdraw in the boost window. It's a powersupply, not a charger..... Too many mistakes in a single video.

For £30 more you could get the 7940hs, would that be worth it?

Thanks for comparison. However, most people will have already chosen their platform (MacOS, Windows, Linux). Thus these items are almost NEVER in competition with each other. This comparison is more about showing us the state of the hardware. You minimize the power draw issue, which translates into heat/noise. I think that this matters to many users. I like that the Geekom product is upgradable. However, stats show that most users/companies NEVER upgrade their hardware. I am not sure how much people care that the Geekom is smaller. At some point device is just sitting in the corner of the desk. I think that the support for multiple displays is a big advantage for Geekom. Anyway, thanks for the comparison...

The single core Geekbench score you have on the M2 is NOT correct. It's 2600-2700.

MacBooks are great laptops, but non-Apple mini-PCs are better for most people. For mini-PCs using Windows/Linux: - Adjustable RAM and SSD. - Smaller. Leading to more space on a desk. - Can game at 1080p on them, especially with AMD Radeon iGPU 780M - Good to great CPU performance. Mac minis are better for advance video editing and DJ work.

Could you show us how you reattached the WiFi antennae wire?

USB4 is not necessarily equal to thunderbolt (otherwise it would be advertised heavily to be). USB4 starts with 20gbps, half of thunderbolt 4. Big difference. USB4 is essentially thunderbolt 2 or worse than thunderbolt 2 due to its criteria as well as ambiguous bandwidth expectations (welcome to the world of USB standards - can't name anything for the life of them). USB4 also only requires a power delivery of 7.5W, so not enough to charge phones satisfactorily let alone laptops. If possible, could you please identify the actual bandwidth of the usb4 port. Also, macs have really good hardware reliability (best out of the top 4 manufacturers - third party with real purchase data used), which ofc gives peace of mind regarding your data but also means that the second hand market is even better than it already is for apple products. I bought an m1 mac mini for £350. That's incredible. Then there is the power efficiency and I'm going to ignore the other smaller things which matter a lot such as fan noise, resale value, ethernet or wifi standard and gain/power, bluetooth efficiency, power, standard and the external power pack which let's face it, isn't ideal. Still a great product and I fully support the company if you do. It looks like a great product and I haven't researched it much so I'm not here to review, compare or criticise anything. Just here to provide points and information to consider. Just painting the picture.

I got few day ago, the Geekom IT13 i9 I have doubts because they are the same price... Which one is the best for you Can yo do a comparison? Geekom IT13 i9 vs Geekom A7 Ryzeb 7940HS ?

Great video!

I have the Geekom 7840 and LOVE it.

didnt get the exact specs of your Mac used in the video, but spent a Lot of time detailing the exact specs of your Windows PC. Can i put Linux on it? ...drivers? Was it the base model Mac Mini?

Seems cinebench and geekbench results are off (should be higher) for m2 when comparing to notebookcheck and cpu-monkey stats. Aren't they?

For 4 TB single sided there is one SSD: Samsung SSD 990 PRO

There is at least one 4TB NVMe on the market that is single-sided and that is a Crucial P3 (CT4000P3PSSD8).

very nice, buts its close to the m2 pro in price. 850 vs 1265 and when we talk this close, why not go to the m2 pro?

The 2 USB on the mac mini are NOT 2.0 but 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps).

Is running Mac OS on this Mini PC feasible without glitches ?

What is memory for the GPU on the windows little box

An external power supply makes sense, but you really should have shown the Geekom _with_ the power supply. You can get Mac minis discounted and macOS comes with 80+ office, productivity, creative and utility Apps and they are mostly very good. What support and corporate longevity are you going to get with the Geekom? You could do more to make this an equal comparison, but Apple is going to cost more for the hardware, compensated for by being ready to use out of the box with no expensive rentware like with the PC.

It is an AC Adapter. Not a charger.

Nice sales talk !

What exactly about the Mac Mini makes it better for editing? According to the numbers from the test you did it looks like the Geekom beat it in efficiency

is it better than Minisforum UM790 Pro ?

can i work with this geekom for hours without getting hot? because i remember working for longer hours on intel and AMD, the AMD tends to get hot in no time.

I use MacOS and Windows both! 2 years ago it was STRICTLY MacOS. But the Windows side of development has caught up recently and is much more competitive. I still believe the Apple premium is not worth the price you pay! And I own 4 of them and a couple of iPads too. But in these last few years, I find myself using my Lenovo’s (P3 Mini Workstation & a X1 Carbon laptop) more and more for day to day life. And with 5 kids, I could see this Geekom platform being a very handy solution.

How about this Geekom vs the M2 Pro?

I'm not the only one to mention this in comments but I think there are a few other mini PCs that could make the case against the Mac Mini even more strongly based and the smallest step from what you review here I think would be one based on the Ryzen 7940HS and with twin M2 slots e.g. the Minisforum UM790 Pro. The 7940HS would increase the performance difference a bit more but also critically with the absolutely massive price difference between a maximum spec Mac Mini and a barebones UM790 Pro a user could spend a lot of money on his/her RAM spec and very big SSD storage across both of the M2 slots and still come in noticeably cheaper than the Mac Mini with way more RAM and secondary storage all in the much smaller chassis. Both Ryzen-based and Intel-based mini PCs are becoming pretty amazing beasts now.

Isheeps on their way to add 200$ for a 1tb ssd on their Mac mini after seeing this video

I am afraid when it is about Davinci Resolve the only choice is the Mac Mini or rather the Mac Studio, but of the GPU. To me the Geekom version wouldn`t be a wise choice for advance editing. :(

is it compatible with windows 10?

I've jumped ship back to PC from the Mac Mini M1. Tired of how Apple continually locks down it's hardware and presents no upgradability path. I just purchased the Minis Forum UM790-Pro with my following configuration: Ryzen 9 7940HS CPU, 32 Gb (5600) ram, and a 1 Gb NVME. I like it bettter then the Geekom A7 because it incorporates two NVME slots and can do 8K at 60hz whereas the Geekom A7 only does 8K at 30Hz. Otherwise, the included ports are the same. The UM790-Pro can also do raid 0 and 1. I'm not a gamer and there's no way I'm going back to building a mid tower PC anymore. These newer mini PC's are powerhouses and the future! Asta La Vista Apple!

Do you think AV1 encode and decode on the 780M will make the A7 more future proof than the M2 as AV1 begins to replace H264 and HEVC more and more in the industry. At least for entry level 4K video editing like simple cuts and transitions. If you work with professional codecs Apple media engine is probably better.

Mac Minis are very popular with voice artists as they are so quiet under the slight loads audio capture generally runs at. How does the A7 compare on noise, both idle and under load? You mentioned it was louder. The external PSU should help.

I think there is error on Blende rendering test. If those numbers are secconds, then lower should be better and then mac wins them all.

Can you please tell me the name of your keyboard. the white one

10/10 Content Bro

I'd still keep my mini since my workflow is built around apple and I need windows or linux I just spin up a vm. Apple could easily match the geekom formfactor if they wanted.

why compare ? it's windows vs osx ?

Also is it better that the intel one? "GEEKOM Mini PC Mini IT13, 13th Gen Intel i9"

For me it comes down to the OS, I prefer Mac OS way more than Windows so this comparison means nothing to me. I have the first M1 chip Mac Mini and I'm really happy with it. I'm going to upgrade soon to the M2 chip. It was definitely interesting to watch your video but not a Mac Mini killer.

Yeah, but it's running Windoze. Will this thing run Linux? If so, it would be worth checking out.

Which one can be hanged behind a monitor?

Love the details of your video, Thanks, I was able to BUY Mac Mini M2 after watching your videos

Apple still get away with all this crazy

IMHO I do believe that the pair Mac mini/Mac OS is still unbeatable in the real world for stability, premium materials, and effectiveness, excepting for serious games area where I still would prefer to buy a console rather than fighting for the last powerful video board and processor ...cooling equipment and power consumption as well. Yet I understand that passion is passion and so it is always a good thing for everyone... as well as the competition is always a good piece of news for all users ..

no Neural Engine. no built in decoding. the Mac Kicks its. arse.

This video must be fake, a real person presenting a mini pc, no way. Thanks tech human :)

And while you play such old games as LOL on any mac you struggle to understand where is the promissed power.

Compare Ryzen Z1 extreme vs This Ryzen 9 7948hs I think both are same . 😅 Whats your thoughts

GREAT PC TO INSTALL IN YOUR CAR AS A MEDIA DEVICE. WITH A TOUCH SCREEN. MOUNT PC IN THE GLOVE BOX TO HIDE IT. MOUNT THE TOUCH SCREEN OUTSIDE GLOVE BOX.

Use I igpu rx7600xt with the ryzen system

Hey just wanted to let you folks in the comments know that the mac is actually cheaper, he used the 1 gig Ethernet 8 core mac which is 700$ USD where as the one he showed was not the one he bought, this was not a valid test. if your going to bash on mac fanboys how about you don't lie in testing

Bought aorus 4080 super by watching yourvideo

This is a commissioned ad made to look like a review!

Only problem is that it runs windows. I sold a MacBook Pro and Surface Pro at the same time. Took 30 minutes to wipe a reinstall OS, took 4 hours on the Surface with Windows. No thanks. Oh, I still have a Windows machine but I can’t say it’s better.

Apple could/should have dropped the M2 into an AppleTV case, the Mini is an oversized enclosure. M2 is a base-level chip, strange you didn't compare the M2 Pro Mini.

well since 90% of people just send email and browse the internet who cares about all those benchmarks. If you are interested in Photoshop as a job, you should go with the larger Mac Pro models. I really do not understand the need to make things smaller anymore and I think the Mac Mini is already too small and would be more flexible in a bigger chassis. The old pizza box size were nice back in the 1990s.

The day someone makes a "mini" x86 PC twice the size, to accommodate much greater dissipation, with a 12cm fan or more... easily replaceable and configurable from 0 to max low speed according to temperature profiles. That day I will buy the first one, as a desktop PC. For me “silence” is very important. I have switched to Linux and left behind the tyranny and whims of the largest corporations in the computing world in power. So I would also care about its compatibility.

Just bought the cheaper one for productivity purposes.

It's insane, you can upgrade the mini pc, but the Mac mini is DOA. Once ONE PIECE FAILS, IT'S DONE.

So I just want to check in for clarification- Why wasn't this compared to the M2 mini with 16 gb Ram 512 gb storage (non pro version) at 999$? I feel like the performance deficit would not have been so bad there, comparing 16gb of ram to 32- instead of 8 - 32 And I feel like jumping to Storage all the way to 2TB to increase the price diff was a little cheap shot lol. There are of course cheaper 2 TB external storage that most would get that would not shoot the price that high. It still makes the mac cost more but a much better comparison. Not to mention at B&H you could get the M2 pro with 10 core cpu- 16 core gpu with 512 of storage for only 1,149$- again it is more than 899 with 2tb of storage but the performance jumps significantly there. You might wait save 250 and then get that- If one really wanted a mac mini with 16gb of ram- just a thought.

I wish IntelCoreUltra mini PC should also launch.

The Geekom looks like a silver Apple TV.

6:45 It's not 100% faster, it's infinite faster 😉

As someone that uses a mac for work and windows at home, I cannot understand why anyone would get the M2. Even if it was as powerful, you still have to use MacOS. That alone is a deal breaker for me.

For Chinese made PC's, how do you ensure there is no spyware, malware on the hardware like Lenovo had in the past?

is there the windows version that equals to this one? I Would like to know if it is better for editing than the ryzen especially in resolve.

Comparing arm vs x86 is a big difference

Are the two computers configured equally? Geekom appears to be a startup company located in Taiwan (at least their R&D is there; not certain where products are manufactured; I assume in Taiwan). At least they are not located in China (CCP). So perhaps there is no concern about “spyware”. I’m invested in Apple and will probably stay with them even though I’m dissatisfied with the number of ports they offer on their products these days.

Man windows has serious advantages and value, but... noise. I would prefer a bigger chassis, with less noise, and integrated PSU as well. This mini is great though in that it's metal.

The Mac mini has to be large, made of metal and silver to differentiate it from the Apple TV that actually contains almost exactly the same chip inside. The Apple TV would be a fantastic macOS machine but then Apple would totally wreck its pricing strategy. So the Mac mini has to be much bigger than it really needs to be while the Apple TV must be as small and light and as non-silver as at all possible. Which it is.

The smaller true mini is a sign that it needs mini optical disc or standard optical disc usb a or c like just like the Mac mini which it was usually cubed with cd optical rom thing. Although the real small mini should be using windows 11 or (12 coming soon but not 7 since Microsoft ceased that os life span)

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I say for a true Apple's 🍎 to Apple's comparison, Hackintosh the A7.

No thunderbolt?😢

i love mini pc's but they don't run mac os. a mac is the key factor for music audio and video production.

Wont be long and peopole will look back at the Geekom and say "why were they so big"...

In most of the laptop vs macbook comparison video Macbook wins because of that efficient m3 processor which usage less power than any processor. But when power is not an issue than no way mac type device gonna win

These comparisons don't really mean anything. Because most people buying at this price level are not needing peak performance. They by Macs because of the OS & The Echo System and how all Apple Devices communicate and share with each other. Also PC's are not as secure, have more viruses, break easily (I'm look at two PC's right now on my living room floor that I have spend the last day and a half trying to fix. One was slowing down and literally making me couch being around it, so I decided to do a deep cleaning, and vacuumed it and use and air blower and also upgraded the memory and it won't boot, and I have built PC before. The other one I have no Idea why it's not booting. The amount of hours have spent fixing or trying to fix PC problems and dead PC's I cold have bought several Macs if I was being paid for my time. PC have cost me massive down time. Macs are not immortal, I have a 2010 Apple laptop that won't start I have a couple of PC laptops that also won't, old computer just die. The Batteries die, the parts go bad. But with Apple you won't dick around with it wasting hours & hours trouble shooting. You get the Yearly Apple Care and have it fixed or buy a new one. To me my time is the most valuable thing, and trouble shooting and fixing PCs is stressful and time consuming if it's not what you do for living. I like to have both Macs and PCs but I seriously considering switching to Mac because they are more secure and unlike PC where all of the parts come from different manufactures most of the time. Most of Apples parts are made just for that Apple Device and to work with the Mac OS, and Apple are control freaks about security. Also Apples products are less toxic and that does matter when you working next to a computer 10+ hours a day. They are just better built computers it's like a BMW vs a Ford or in some cases a Kit Car someone is modding. There is also something about the style of the product & OS that feels so much more organized with Apple computers. And say this as a 30 year PC user that was never crazy about Macs due to the lack of a upgrade path & High Prices. Get a Mac, Back it up daily and if it dies get another one or that one fixed and restore and get back to work quickly. In fact once when I had my PC repaired after spending a day or so trying to fix it myself, the guy at the shop told me "If you want less hassle just get a Mac." PS: This PC is way too small TBH. Not enough ports. I'm probably going to get a Mac Mini M2 Pro so I can run 3 monitors and use Mac OS as it's more secure, has less hacks, malware & viruses. But I'm also looking for a small PC also to have around but this is too small not enough dedicated display ports and I'd prefer and integrated powersupply. Also The Mac comes with a lot of software that the PC won't. On the PC you'll have to buy MS Office or get some open source knock off. BTW at my last job they had piles of PCs they killed rendering graphics. The just don't last and have a lot of problems.

its a 780M, not a 7800M :D

No Thunderbolt support on the PC.

External power supply is much better and easy to repair when broken. Just buy another one. The Mac is way to big. They seemed to used old Intel chassis for the m1 which could have been build as big as an smartphone. That thing is way too big. They should at least put more connections on it.

How can you say you arent working with them while having your own promo code 😂😂

A NIGHTMARE TO WORK ON OR REPAIR. SUCH A SMALL PC

Need to check your specs a little closer...🤣

I'm buying two right now and I don't care, I use windows too... ha ha ha' (;

Mac fanboys gonna hate ya.

It's not that I'm not open minded. I hate how Apple is all locked down in the name of corporate profit. OTOH, Windows OS for me is so cumbersome and leaves a lot to be desired. I think someone is going to Hackingtosh the Geekom, I'm sure someone is working on that as I type. And then, one may have the best of both worlds.