> still get shot > police still get funded

Her Dad created that situation

​@KingfishStevens-di9ji and the cops handled it in the worst way possible leading to the child's death. Don't be a bootlicker and ignore the obvious procedural issues that led to an Innocent person's death.

Reminds me of that guy in the hotel who was offed by the cops after following their every order and begging for his life.

@@KingfishStevens-di9ji her dad didn't shoot her, and he clearly knew how to shoot people

And withheld footage from the public for 18 months.

Per usual…

Democrats said : after trump , election

you must need to take your meds dude. @@danielkim6092

What a surprise they’re usually so accountable 🫠

🙄 They didn't "gun her down." It was a miscommunication. It's awful, but don't pretend like they were like, "HEY GUYS, LET'S KILL THIS KID, YEAH!!!" It was a highly volatile situation, shots had been fired from both the passenger and driver, and a mistake was made. Cops are still people. No one wanted this outcome.

@@TigersandBearsOhMy Sorry, but she was the hostage and the priority and those inexperienced officers were trigger happy and driven by adrenaline and emotion and NOT FOCUSED on their priority, which was simultaneously putting bystanders lives at risk to save a kid. If she fired from the vehicle, she had to, he was putting her life at risk the entire time and had just murdered her mother. She was a hostage and a minor. They ABSOLUTELY needed constant communication and “Hostage is exiting passenger side. I’m having her come towards me. Hold fire towards passenger side.” Obviously! They needed way more training.

​@@TigersandBearsOhMy officer safety first!

@@comingoutspinster-rebellik1479 Yeah, well, their priorities might have changed somewhat when the kidnapping "victim" started shooting at police cars and innocent motorists.

Yes, it's complete incompetence. Someone needs to go to specsavers, and some officers need to get a different job. A trigger happy cop that can't listen to fellow officers has no place on the force. Outrageous is an understatement.

She was shooting at the cops

@@DemePoole Not at the time the piggies executed her. At the time of the murder, she had surrendered and was following the piggies “lawful orders.”

@@DemePoole no she wasn’t….you can clearly hear in the body cam that she was unarmed and was following orders from police when she was killed. Why the hell are people still saying that lie even after the footage was released proving otherwise??

2 years. WTF.

@@DemePoole seems like your throat leaves those boots with an immaculate shine

Do you wear combat fatigues on a daily basis? How bout the gunshot from the passenger car. Putting all this aside it's dad who brought on the shootout. At the very worst the cops had bad communication. Sometimes kids get damaged because their parents do something stupid. Happens.

@@bobbobertson7568 how do you know the father didn’t make her ? The fact of the matter they gave her instructions and then shot her

@@mr.denzelsausageton9719 This is a pretty silly argument. If someone is shooting at a cop I don't think who inspired said shooting, whether it's themselves, Dad, Jesus, etc. matters. They are trying to KILL the cops, they have every right to be on guard and defend themselves

@@bobbobertson7568when she was out of the vehicle was she shooting at a cop? No, she wasn’t. Did the cops who pulled the trigger follow their own engagement procedures? No. Did the cops that shot her act like a bunch of thugs with an uncoordinated response? Yes. Do we train our police on how to handle tense situations like this? Yes. Did any of these so called *professional* people act with any *professionalism*? No.

@@chrisl4999 The cops were positioned at various distances in the midst of a dangerous shoot out. Communication break down, mistakes happened in a very dangerous situation. You demand perfection from cops who put their life on the line every day, and you turn a blind eye to criminals who created the situation in the first place. You have a pretty demented way of viewing things.

Exactly..

That was my thought too 💔

Very sad

was she not also shooting ? he mentioned gun shots coming from the passenger side window.

@@Hypno_BPM So what?

She wasn’t running to them for help. She surrendered and lay down on the ground. They TOLD HER TO GET UP and go towards them and then murdered her for doing it.

Running for help lol. She was just shooting at them.

@@user-qb9fv3bf2d police only say that shit to "justify" them murdering her, and trying to save their own skin.

@@user-qb9fv3bf2dshe wasn’t tho

@@anaconda158 yes she literally was dipshiitt and she had tactical gear on.

A complete "Taliban Wedding".

@@BIGxJIMxSLADE .You -= reported.

​​@@RullXovImagine logging onto the Internet to report others. I can tell you love your life and other people like you.

@@Votd66 You contradict yourself..🙄 Bounce, amateur troll.

@@RullXov Go take a Midol and change your tampon, princess.

But muh police safety! A scared unarmed 15 year old girl was walking towards one of the cops so they had to take her out for his safety.

Don't be a know it all, she just as well was one of the shooters against the cops with her father. You must be sexist, if the kid was a guy you'd be more inclined to think he was a threat to the cops, just cuz it is a girl you think "she" is so innocent. No one had a clue if she had something to do with the mother being shot or not. Cops have the right to defend themselves. She was with her father of her own free will, knew he killed her mother, she went with the father and into a store and bought 2 sodas and her father let her go obviously trusting she wouldn't rat him out. Why would anyone assume she was purely innocent? Just because she is a girl? You don't even know if she was a gang member. What kind of girl goes with her father, I am sure he exhibited violent traits before he shot the wife!

​@@commonsense2680 username doesn't check out

Pigs addresses all 7 of them are on reddit right now.. lol

​@@commonsense2680They must be sexist because you said so? How do know their opinion would be different if it was a boy? As far as wether she was innocent or guilty is entirely irrelevant. She was following instructions and wasn't a threat. There's nothing commonsense about your comment.

Incompetent

They all had radios, but no bodycams.

@@Naptosishow’s that even possible in the 2020s. At this point they all should have to wear them and leave them on at all times while on duty.

@@HeatherHoltresistance from police unions and chronic underfunding would be my two guesses

more like frightened

this sounds about as peaceful her life has ever been. when its over. sad story.

They're all yeller.

But they are all on a power trip though

Who gets to decide which person gets to do the yelling in the heat of the moment? The smartest person?

Like the video of that poor guy (who was an exterminator) and staying in a hotel when some nosy MF called in that he had an assault rifle or something when it was a BB gun for shooting rodents. They allegedly saw him with it through the curtain partially when he was in his room and they were down at the pool, begging the question of how they deemed him a threat? Then they have him in the hallway and he is clearly not armed but they were all screaming a deadly game of Simon Says. Kneeling, crawling, etc. and eventually killing him. For a BB gun glimpsed through a window at a distance.

@@marquisdelafayette1929 Daniel Shaver was drunk and pointing what looked like a rifle outside a hotel window. Calling the police for that is perfectly normal. Pointing firearms outside windows is not normal and incredibly irresponsible. Of course Swat will show up after we’ve already seen hotel window mass shooters like in Vegas. Then the dipshit kept reaching at his waistband after being warned not to. Why is it that the other guest wasn’t shot? Because she didn’t reach for her waistband.

ACAB

Basically. The police in the USA are trigger happy psychopaths

You don't mind politicians using law to go after political opposition like trump right. Criminal justice reform lol you guys don't care how hypocrite you look

@@phillipmartinez9232 What? Using the law to go after law breakers is what the law is used for.

@@icin4d except all the criminal on left literally Hillary on intent, lol and Biden not competent to stand trial weird same classified documents, the Georgia case is joke falling apart because super corrupt da if it was anyone else a black guy for instance which they were supporting trump in Atlanta talking how corrupt local da is look it up, the fake ny document case never been charged ever and on and on only someone with tds could say its all good so cops can't investigate themselves but your political enemies who hate more than hate itself could I love leftwing hypocrisy its so blatant hence so many leaving democrat party and you guys can't see had not for fake cases and they're are still losing most say lol imagine with out but me and alot I was democrat all my life by way but police state is police state going after someone you hate ut never ends there than its anyone who criticise them. And they already have been. Slippery slope, reason that never happened but in sure he was only president whi ever committed crime in telling you guys leave the bubble becaue un real world this and many other look bad it has converted people to trump not opposite and than more hypocrisy saying how great it is under Biden lol and how bad it was under trump lol that is clear sign of delusion or blatant lying to justify the means . Again im sure if same info came out like kn Georgia case for instance but it was anyone else but trump or anyone associated with him. Say a innocent black man I think we all know answer. Keep it up tho like Israel issue anyone who want Palestinian to keep suffering keep supporting iran and their puppets lol it has worked out great so far. I actually wanted them to be liberated for real not live under brutal radical dictatorship like taliban or isis, hamas, iran.

I dont think you have been trained in law. Crime requires intent. Incompetence is just that, an incapable actor. It doesnt become criminal because someone died from their lack of capacity.

@@rickjames5998 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

Victim wearing tactical gear and firing at LEO

​@@twocents7495her father just unalived her mother, could she have been afraid her father would unalive her if she didn't go along?

@@rickjames5998 your statement is particularly ironic considering I'm a law graduate. But okay, you do you 😅 maybe I don't measure up to your standards, an honours degree and five years of studies be damned because some stranger on KZfaq didn't agree with my opinion on a video.. a video about a case that neither of us have first-hand knowledge of. Don't get me wrong, I respect differences of opinion, what I don't understand, however, is speculation about the credentials somebody holds (or lack thereof). You'd be surprised how easy It is to refrain from being presumptive, while respectfully disagreeing with a stranger on the internet. I know this isn't reddit, and also that the age of forums and proper debate is long past, but maybe you can try it sometime in the KZfaq comments section, too. Who knows, we can perhaps make this a more civilized platform someday?

Cops are trained that anyone, of any age, can be armed. Makes them jumpy.

But at least she wasnt black so nobody will care 🤬

@@conscientiousobserver8772 anyone, of any age, CAN be armed and can kill you in a second.

​@@conscientiousobserver8772 "I'm going home to my family, no matter what!" Officer safety is higher than the constitution.

Add to that ,for over the past decade ,and longer,tens of thousands of cops have been trained in Israel by the idf. They have totally been indoctrinated in the COMPLY OR DIE dictum. The main n facilitator of this aberration, has been the adl.

I think there’s a federal investigation on it though ?

😮

Why would they get MMA training?😂

@@faythknowmore Really? Look at cops using jujitsu in order to take down a suspect.

Seems like MMA would be a bonus, not a requirement. The tasers and guns have a similar effect.

@@faythknowmoreYou honestly don't think learning grappling skills would be beneficial for cops?

Yes, and they don't get much if any training on what the public's civil rights are either! Which is why they routinely violate them.

Well that's part of the cops job. To protect and serve. Was Savannah a cop at large or something? Otherwise why was SHE wearing that attire?

​@@bobbobertson7568protect themselves and serve the government first, corporations second, and people third.

@@jackdanson2 You planning to get in a gun fight with cops with your kids in the passenger seat? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.

@@jackdanson2 How do you figure that?

​@@bobbobertson7568 All legally owned attire. A Cops job is to Catch NOT Kill......Unless Cop means Assassin

Cops out here acting like Is real ees "from sea to shining sea, America will not be free" this place is turning into a lawless (or maybe too many laws, for the proletariat anyway while the elite and authority figures wearing their jackboots obey zero laws) hellscape.

"Officer safety" is Officer cowardice.

@@nuclearmedicineman6270 Which was the massacre that police waited outside a school to let a murderer execute as many kids and teachers as he could, and stopped parents from trying to save their children? There are so many in the USA, I forget.

@@Naptosisuvdale - what another complete clusterfk of 🐱🐱🐱🐱 cops!!

"She's coming right for us!!!!"

​@@nuclearmedicineman6270what's especially egregious is they can't even claim officer safety with that crossfire they set themselves up with.

police receiving proper training AND using it? don't make me laugh

You don’t get it do you? Nobody wants to be a cop when they know just how stupid and poorly trained the other cops around them are.

You mean more training than the 2hrs of annual mandatory firearms training. And the qualification doesn’t go beyond 15yd line. Only a 50rd course where 80 is passing. 😂😂😂

The tragedy started with a lack of condoms

As someone without tattoos: can we please stop equating tattoos to intelligence, criminality or morality? Lots of people get bad tattoos without it meaning shit, even neck tattoos . They’re more common now. It’s just part of modern culture This guy is disgusting full-stop tho, not defending the father

@@NickolaiPetrovitchdon't call human beings monsters! Especially damaged ones! Aint you lucky!

Hey Shiv ❤❤❤

@@NickolaiPetrovitch Tattoos are ugly, disgusting and demonic. Never trust anyone who has a tattoo.

@@raspberrykitten6676 what ? And you have no idea about my life lol I think we are on the same side, chill

Criminals are everywhere. I have no friends and barely leave the house.

@@verbalkint1770don’t live in fear friend. Good people are still out there and are plentiful… a healthy fear of people is good, just don’t let it rule you!

youre not safe there either theyre in the walls !@@verbalkint1770

She wasn't "gunned down". She was participating in a crime and incompetent law enforcement officers accidentally killed her.

@@verbalkint1770 It's awful, but your chances of being victimised by a criminal or the police are still low. 🤍

And don’t lie and cover up abuse. I think they desperately need people to dumb down the fact that this is why some people don’t trust them. And if they want to change the public perception, they need to shape up and stop being so narcissistic/entitled.

They are there for the adrenaline rush and the power trip

Cops dont have the IQ level required to learn anything above 4th grade level IMO

What police footage are you getting same day that the rest of don't?

Sadly we can’t ever depend on anyone to protect anyone else ever 💔

Too many police officers are only interested in protecting themselves and their positions of power. Children come after that unfortunately...

Men like to claim they're protectors of women and children, but all they continue to prove is that we're statistically safer staying away from them.

It is the job of a parent to protect their children. It is the job of police officers to protect and serve. They are in positions of power. I’m glad that Dr. Grande holds people accountable.

@@elizabethhamm5320 He didn’t hold them accountable. He might’ve subjected them to some light mockery, but at the end of the day he soft-pedaled them.

yeah right

Not all 50 cops were able to hear all the other 50 cops. 50 times 50 is 2,500 different lines of communication that have the potential to get missed or not heard during an active gunfight.

Fuck it then, screw communications... Just close your eyes & unload since there's just too much talking... Literally how these idiots think.

they heard they chose not to listen

@@rwid71663 actually the problem was that so many cops were yelling out orders at one time. They need to train the officers to take turns speaking during a gunfight. When one officer is done speaking then another officer can take a turn telling everyone what to do. They also need to begin each command by using the names of the people they are speaking to. So instead of saying " Get on the ground, hold your fire", They should say "Suspect in the vehicle, stop shooting". "Young lady, get on the ground ". "Officer Davis, Officer Watanabe, Officer Guggenheim, and Officer with the fake boobs, hold your fire"!

While this may be true, it’s not really fair compare this to other countries since there are so many guns there. In my country I haven’t seen a private citizen gun in 30 years. You can’t advocate for gun freedom and expect the cops to behave like they’re from Switzerland or Australia. It’s unreasonable. If everyone may potentially have a gun then of course it’s a different playing field for cops. US cops do a lot of stupid shit for sure but why is the gun debate always non existent when it comes to police-side misbehavior. It’s all part of a broader and very broken system.

@@pablosskates7067Australia used to have as many private guns as America but never had the killings. We got rid of most guns (well at least the broader gun ownership as there is still a lot of guns) after a particular massacre performed by a literal madman. US gun culture is a bit mad. Gun safety is the least of it.

@@pablosskates7067 That's a nice circular excuse, but it's not even true. Gun ownership per capita is also high in e.g. Canada, over a quarter that of the United States, but this tyoe of cop behaviour is still rare there. Furthermore, gun ownership in your own example of Switzerland is almost a quarter that of the United States, and things like this are virtually unheard of. Guna are bad, but Americans are really bad.

@@icturner23 ok fair enough. I’ve never lived in a country where anyone had guns so gun culture and all its implications is new to me.

@@pablosskates7067 There is no excuse. There needs to be federal standards for rules of engagement for the police, and there isn't. It's state by state. For instance, in Tennessee, where I live, there is no mandatory training at all, all you need to be a cop here is to have graduated from high school, or have a GED, and have maintained a job for a year. Any job. We actually have cops shoot the victims all the time, and often, if you call a cop, they will arrest you, because you're the closest and easiest one to get a hold of, and they can say they're done.

the bodycam footage shows the cops did nothing wrong, that's why they don't need to release it

@@allancouceiro9255 They killed a kid I guess you're okay with that

@@Simonisms I was being sarcastic.

That’s what I was thinking. And she didn’t have much of a choice if he directed at her to shoot.

Sideways but not behind or forward.

You'd have thought they'd have done a gunshot residue test to ascertain if she had fired. But it's irrelevant to this scenario as she wasn't armed and was following police orders at the point she was shot.

The witness said that the guy was leaning out of the passenger side window at first, then he changed the story a minute later.

Exactly!!

Poor younger brother is alive!

@@JavaT6437 There’s a brother? Damn

Yes ​@@joshuatealeaves

Worse than that. A young boy now has to go through life knowing that his dad killed his mum and got himself and his sister killed.

@@joshuatealeaves Did you not even listen to the video?

Uvalde?

I mean to be fair when your attacker is right there the last thing you want to do is be next to him or even remotely close. Especially if he could shoot you, it's pathetic that this happened to her

Who fired the shot? Their silence is deafening

The coverup is worst than the crime

Does it matter? She was told to walk toward them. If you don't do as they say, they shoot you. If you do as they say, they shoot you. So why does it matter if she was walking toward them or not? She would get shot anyway.

It's like if you're on a ship that's sinking, get up on deck with a life jacket no matter what the crew tell you to do. Their default response to an emergency is to tell you to go sit in your cabin and wait. That's where the body recovery divers will find you if you obey.

It's evident that they want to sweep this under the rug, now we need to start the ball rolling by contacting the DA's office in San Bernardino.

cry

@@hyznbrg66 Wow, you're so smart!

BEHIND BELIEF, THEY KILL AN INNOCENT GIRL THAT WAS FALLOWED THE POLICE DIRECTION. A BLATANT DEPLORABLE COVER UP. THY ARE ALL GUILTY SHAME ON YOU.

@@hyznbrg66 thats exactly what a bad-cop would say...

Did you see his picture?? No you are correct I doubt he cared about anyone at all

You know it wouldn't have been

I agree, but she was actually pretty close to getting to safety before she got the firing squad treatment from the nice police department

ACAB

@@SmoothLikeSilk I'm surprised the police don't charge the remaining family for the bullets the poor lass bled all over.

Unfortunately it just what happens when your parents don't care about you, because no one in the world cares about you. Sad life for the unlucky girl

@@SmoothLikeSilkright. She was like 20 feet from the cops. Begging for help. Hands in the air. Ugh.

😢

He never said there was proof she was shooting. Just a witness saying it came from the passenger side. That’s not good.

Lol cops were being shot at, and from officer and bystander accounts it was from the driver and passenger side. How were they trigger happy? 🤦🏼‍♀️

If she was shooting at people, she wasn't innocent. Less culpable than her father? Sure, but not innocent.

"Innocent" is debatable. Do you wear tactical gear when going to visit your mother? #1 blame goes with Dad, he brought on the shootout with his crime spree, and there's a good chance Savannah was an active participant. Cops deal with dangerous people on a daily basis. Next time they hesitate it could mean their death.

@@scottandrews947 A jury should decide that. She was no danger to the cops on the ground and unarmed.

Easy analysis to make with the benefit of a video that explains ahead of time what is about to happen to the girl. The video you viewed was stitched together from multiple angles including a helicopter all while you were comfortably sitting in a chair somewhere. The decisions become a little more tricky when you don't know ahead of time who the next person to die is going to be. When real bullets are flying and real people have been killed.

I mean, he had already killed her mother, so I'm sure this wasn't to big a deal to him

And the cops failed the child!

The police failed her too!

The criminal is obviously always at fault. But the police failed the victim as well

@@RoastPostthe father is guilty of kidnapping. The police are guilty of killing a child due to incompetence.

I'm betting on the gender.

❤

@@KingfishStevens-di9ji Could you clarify what you mean?

You’re not a lawyer. A real lawyer wouldn’t even try to make that comment because they’d know nobody would take it seriously. Take it with a boulder of salt.

@@Naptosis And get banned? No thanks.

I think these officers need to be retrained. 😮

The police are literal serial killers of children at this point...

And they're legally allowed to do it 😢

Obviously there is blood lust among the law enforcement officers in that town.

​@@katc2040legal like the Nazis legally gassed the Jews. Same type of legal.

We need to demand longer training for police and maybe don’t teach them to be super paranoid seeing as a paranoid person with a gun and qualified immunity is a deadly combination. Oh and more training on dealing with disabled people especially deaf/hoh communities.

California. The worst third world country in the world.

This could only be my child if I become a violent criminal and my child is an idiot.

:(

How so? I'm not a murderous, armed to the teeth Dad on the run from the law.

@@moreygloss9248your wife might be tho, we don’t know

Ummmm, no it could not. And it is scary that you can write that in a serious manner

Yes, never click on email attachments or links in emails unless you know what you're doing, and how to identify attachments/links that are safe.

Joe Blogs got hacked.

So once the truck was disabled the murderer will decide to stop shooting or do his guns also stop working? Who makes the decision whether or not the truck is disabled? If there is a helicopter in the air the guy who just killed a woman isn't going to harm the child or other members of the public? It appeared that gunfire was coming from the truck even with the helicopter in the air.

Precisely what I was thinking 🤔

You must be kidding. If he cared, she wouldn't be in that car at all.

@Inuus crazy people do still care in their own messed way and what seems like obviously disturbing behavior to the rest of us it's totally normal in their brain dude obviously had an arsenal so yeah I think in some crazy way I think he thought he could protect her or he perceived the world was taking his family and he wasn't about to let that happen. Still just imagine being a teenager your dad guns down your mom and takes you makes you wear body armor your in a high speed police chase and hes shooting his gun maybe he started yelling at her saying she needed to help him or these people were going to take him away from her there's so many different possibilities that it just seems heartless to try and justify why she had to die even if she wanted to be there!! You should be able to trust your parents

I'm sure Savanah dressed herself in the tactical gear. She was a thug in the making shooting out the passenger side of the car. Poor child - my ass. Girls do many violent crimes today. Gender means nothing.

@@InuusExactly. I'm wondering IF she were a he, if people would still express sympathy and excuses? A teen boy shot and killed by police following him shooting at them would NOT go go down the same way. Most of these comments would hail police, claiming HE deserved it.

They MURDERED that poor girl instead of Rescuing her! May she rest in peace. 💔🙏🕊️💐🕊️

No difference between Soldier and Police. Both claim to be trained in Firearms........Both are Government employees

@@christinebuckingham8369 yes they did and why is that deputy not being held accountable?

@@statementleaver8095 Soldiers are better trained, and far less likely to be this incompetent.

@@NaptosisIDF enters the conversation.

They'll get paid leave and shuffled to another department at worst. I don't understand how they can be protected by Qualified Immunity, when they are clearly less qualified than a janitor. Janitors at least greatly benefit their community.

@@Naptosisright. It’s like the Catholic priest pdfiles that get shuffled to other churches instead of held accountable for their actions

The courts have already written into law that collateral damage lies at the feet of the perpetrator. There was one case where cops shot at and wounded bystanders who were standing at a food truck. Eventually, it was decided the truck was at fault.

The news video will break your heart.

@@Hollylivengood Was this in 2023?

​@@notozknows2022 i thought

Yes everyone needs to call them and speak their mind. Look up San Bernardino sheriff’s office and get their number and make yourself known

@@Fractal_blip Yes, the police suppressed the video for almost 2 years.

There's nothing incriminating on our body cam footage, so we don't need to make it public.

@@allancouceiro9255 That’s why we never turn our body cameras on. Modern problems require modern solutions!

There always is. "We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong", it's the statement every police department makes after they gun down an innocent citizen.

A HUGE DEPLORABLE COVER UP. LIKE USUAL

Some cities have created statutes that not only give cops anonymity, but also a length of time before footage will be released to the public. It can range anywhere from 1 to 4 years, if released at all.

I've been in several DV shelters. Long story. They're not safe. Sometimes the female clients are worse than your abuser. Also, now they're letting trannies in. If you have kids, this is problematic.

PLEASE DO NOT BLAMED THE VICTIM HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE WAS SHOOTING AT POLICE?????????? WAS YOU THERE?

Oh so we're just making things up now? Cool cool cool cool cool