[Tennis]No follow-through! Japanese No.1 doubles player teaches the new theory of fore-volley

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Hiroki Kondo（Former Japan Davis Cup team）
Birthday: November 5, 1982
Highest JTA* rank: S5／D1
Highest ATP rank: S275／D179
*Japan Tennis Association
【career】
・won the ATP Challenger doubles title 3 times
・won the ITF futures singles titles 6 times
・won the ITF futures doubles titles 33 times
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Mishihisa Onoda（Asian Cup 2002 Gold Medalist）
Birthday: January 31, 1978
Highest JTA* rank: S3／D4
Highest ATP rank: S296／D306
*Japan Tennis Association
【career】
・qualifying in singles at Australian Open(2003)
・won the ATP Challenger doubles title at Busan Open, KOR(2003)
・won the ITF futures singles titles five times
Michihisa Onoda（instagram）
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@mjlee5617 3 жыл бұрын

Its great to have English translation. Arigato gozaimasu

@bkatbamna 3 жыл бұрын

I burst out laughing at 4:50 when he said "OK, let's stop shooting"

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

:):) its not a semi western grip but an eastern grip !!! ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) which means that the racket has now the same position of the hand !!! So if you go with hand to the ball you dont have to worry about your racket position or angle of the racket because it will be the same of your hand !!! The movement of the wrist he is talking about is the radial to ulnar devition ( or you can call it the hammer movement ) because his hand is already in position before contact he can make that movent in to contact which creates rackethead speed and by that more power without actualy changing the angle of the racket. if you have any question feel free to ask ( tennisaddict for over 40 years , the channel is not bad but here and there some little mistakes )

@georgebuzea5800 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly why I was reading comments, to me it looked more like an eastern grip and I too agree the content of this channel is great but with some mistakes in translation. Thank you for your comment. Of course, thank you STA for your valuable content.

@wangrobbie6867 2 жыл бұрын

I review this video with English Subtitle, then realize the value of the work from these masters. Thank you so much.

@Tennissoccergolfski 3 жыл бұрын

So glad after 6 months. new video uploaded. Even with English subtitle. Awesome

@LuisoArt123 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the Channel... that’s is the exact way I hit the volley, but used to teach it in a “conventional” continental grip way. Won’t anymore though. Thank you for the video!

@reedgage7689 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating, can't wait to try it out

@johnkimgretzky 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you so much for English subtitles. I really appreciate it. I am waiting for the next lessons in English.

@jamesjang8389 Жыл бұрын

One of the best tennis lecture youtube! Grats from South Korea :)

@javierrobles6372 6 ай бұрын

EXCELLENT LESSON. THANK YOU. TOMORROW I WILL START PRACTICING.

@stevensacks6869 2 жыл бұрын

Whatever works. I really enjoyed this unique difference of technique. Thank you Star Bright for showing alternatives to "standard" rules of how to hit .

@jayrodiles8562 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Kondo san, I will try this! 🙏🏼🧎🏽🧘🏽

@gammatnt 3 жыл бұрын

thank you , it is a very good lesson

@ttacka 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like a strong eastern grip or weak semi western

@leisurefarm 3 жыл бұрын

omg, thanks for this video! i thought i was the only one to hit with a semi western grip on the volley. Actually i use both the continental and the semi western grips for my fh volley.

@tbotiOG 3 жыл бұрын

Could you do a follow up video with the same guy and do a backhand volley thanks great video

@tennis47 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Really new theory! But as long as it works well, this will be fantastic! Could you make another video on his backhand volley, please?

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

not knew , already more then 40 years old but because some big names telling that you need a continental grip , everybody is using a continentel grip. Thats the problem with the volley we see today because the forehand has changed and the backhand has changed but the volley stays the same . think about that

@ovidragos5118 2 жыл бұрын

Great. Finally I found someone else who volleys with SW grip !!!! I can volley with continental grip but years ago I switched to SW bc I realized it's easier to not have to switch the grip, mostly in doubles and I also hit BH volleys with a SW grip. Also this theory would help a lot ,wheelchair players bc the only grip they can play with is SW(they have to roll the wheel with both hands) and would not have to change the grip. Also allows more carving and drop volleys .I mention that I am a teaching pro...so things didn't come accidentally ...

@triplet7734 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing.🌞🌛🙏

@3Slippers 3 жыл бұрын

英語字幕をありがとう (= thanks for the English subtitles!)

@VNTAAcademy 3 жыл бұрын

Good

@thingjae_2708 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for English sub ^^

@pedropujals5829 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the class, but can you explain the difference between the grips, how to hold your racket.👍

@robinhoodwink9345 3 жыл бұрын

Hi if you can stay on the same plane ball path makes without crossing over on the front of you to early. Also try to keep your eyes on level with the ball even on a low volley

@rds4629 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like an eastern FH grip to me rather than semiwestern. I would be curious to see how he hits angled volleys, drop volleys with this grip.

@depigxy Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It is more of a eastern than a semi-western, must have misinterpreted during translation.

@tbotiOG 3 жыл бұрын

How does he hit a backhand volley with the same grip I wish they would have shown the backhand

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

because the left hand puts the racket in position, try it with low , mid and high volley . its easy

@FYProduction 3 жыл бұрын

Previously a D1 player turned coach tried to correct my grip to this method for more penetration, but I find it lacking versatility for my game. Yes that my volley has more pop, but now I don’t have the option of changing my shot to a drop (stop volley) or a lob or a forehand slice from the same grip. This grip would be good for singles player since the volley has to be the shot that finishes the point. But it’s terrible for doubles where it limits the creativity & the disguise.

@ericliu2708 3 жыл бұрын

The video said he was the No 1 doubles player in Japan. Note that it is actuallyeasten grip. So I am sure you could do most of the things you mentioned. I am not sure what you mean by stop volley. Short ball with heavy backspin? The only thing I could think of is swing volley. You would definitely change the grip unless you play eastern forehand.

@andrewchinnes468 3 жыл бұрын

I would argue the opposite. Doubles leaves less time after contact, so it is ideal to have a shorter swing and keep the ball out in front (hence why he is such a good doubles player; also note the volleying differences between the top singles vs doubles players - the grip isn't often different, but the pre-contact portion of the swing vs the after-portion are). The closer you go towards continental grip, the closer the ball has to come to you, and the less of a timing advantage you have.

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

the drop volley is all about the power you put on the grip so if you loosing up at contact you can perfectly play a drop with that grip , the lob is much easier if you understand that the racket with the eastern grip has the same position of your hand and the same for the slice if you go with hand to the ball the racket will have the same position and you just go with your hand to the back of the ball making a perfect slice

@vlesmeries 2 жыл бұрын

I'm alway struggling with the contintental grip on my forehand volleys. I will try this instead.

@FF_AlohaEdition 3 жыл бұрын

That is still a eastern grip. Semi western is the thumb pad go beyond the ridge of the longer bevel of the handle. It is impossible to volley good with a true semi western grip.

@ldeue4837 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100% good luck volleying with a true semi-western lol.

@eddiedantes7470 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the backhand volley with a semiwestern grip...

@tenniscoach.bruggenwerth 3 жыл бұрын

Its a semi western honestly if u believe it or not. Look again 1:28

@tenniscoach.bruggenwerth 3 жыл бұрын

It look different cause of his wrist position

@FF_AlohaEdition 3 жыл бұрын

@@tenniscoach.bruggenwerth 1:42. The thumb pad did not leave the ridge of the longer bevel. That is a eastern grip.

@twinwankel 3 жыл бұрын

The swing is called stop and pop by another coach. It's better for doubles because it adds a lot more pace to the ball. I also discovered this by playing mini-tennis and just trying to be aggressive on the volley. The semi-western grip is how I started volleying but I went to continental when I couldn't do a good backhand volley. I'm not sure what he recommends for the backhand.

@FYProduction 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. In my own experience, there are two distinct types of volley that this video failed to address. With a fast incoming ball, this compact version where I squeeze the racquet handle to pop the ball & stop the finish swing, is what I use. But with a floaty & slow ball, I actually have generate my own pace by using a longer finish, & even run through the shot if needed.

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

we see wally every where :):) he is using the eastern grip and not a semi western grip ( indexfinger knuckle is on bevel 3 ) and i think you talk about 15points............

@Tennissoccergolfski 3 жыл бұрын

Do you switch grip for backhand volley. Still semiwestern grip?

@trungtumai 2 жыл бұрын

This is the better way to do volley

@jwkim4806 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying this now. forehand is ok but backhand doesn't seem to work. Can you show backhand volley demonstrations?

@jochooi6870 3 жыл бұрын

When I experiment with changing grips between forehand and backhand volleys, it makes my volleys really inconsistent.

@johnsantiago7117 3 жыл бұрын

same grip on forehand and backhand (semi-western for both)

@jean-philippe-devise 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with that. It goes too fast. Especially on doubles.

@omarsultanov362 Жыл бұрын

It's more a sort of drive volley. I'd not advise it. Look at Brown, Paire or likes. They have many specific personal shots. Would those ones good for all?

@ykdoctor50 3 жыл бұрын

How do you do a backhand volley with a semi-western grip?

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

hes using a eastern grip not a semi western because the indexfinger knuckle is on 3

@meowmixmeowmix Жыл бұрын

What racket is Kondo using? It's not the Rexis right?

@user-vl3rv6se7b 3 жыл бұрын

Kondo san really looks like 半沢直樹 🤣 倍返し

@Mickey_McD 3 жыл бұрын

That grip would be good for hitting half volleys.

@nandiwardhana6891 Жыл бұрын

I think it is already known as a drive volley

@keyzer380 3 жыл бұрын

Highly doubt this grip for BH volley.

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

dont worry , it works perfect ( because its the left hand that will put the racket in position ) just dont stay following the sheeps who are telling for 50 years how to do it. they have changed the forehand and the backhand but never touched the volley. think about that

@keyzer380 2 жыл бұрын

@@thereisnogod3924 it is just basic physics. With this grip, your racket will not have an optimal position (way to open). And at the net you clearly do not have time to adjust your grip with your left hand. And for the "progress or change": do not think people wer dumb for the past 50years... There are reasons why there were changes with the different strokes and it is mainly due to the rise of modern rackets. But a volley even with a wooden racket will still be a volley...

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

@@keyzer380 you dont understand what i mean with the left hand brings the racket in position. the left hand doesnt turn the racket into a different grip. the grip stays the same and if you play with continental or eastern it doesnt make such a difference. ( Which country you from ?? )

@a2715mt Жыл бұрын

@@thereisnogod3924 are you saying the backhand volley is Easten grip? My question is how do you solve the problem for rocket had open too much when hitting ?

@LauncherSpiderMk7 Жыл бұрын

I have no doubt that this guy is a good player, but I think it's fair to say that he's an outlier, right? Surely most pros would think it's really strange to hit volleys with semi-western grip.

@cp_703 3 жыл бұрын

Where is miss kiwa Chan ?? 😇

@ariurip3751 2 жыл бұрын

Thats how i do volley too, no follow up. Modern racquets are too powerful

@hafadaze9046 3 жыл бұрын

That ain’t semi 😂 that’s a full eastern grip

@miguelbarahona6636 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Kondo uses an eastern forehand grip for volleys (just like Rafa Nadal).

@hafadaze9046 3 жыл бұрын

@@miguelbarahona6636 it does help honestly I use it for very low volleys. But I don’t recommend it for the bh

@miguelbarahona6636 3 жыл бұрын

@@hafadaze9046 I use for volleys, serve and backhand slice a grip that is just between eastern forehand and continental. I tried continental but it never worked for me.

@hafadaze9046 3 жыл бұрын

@@miguelbarahona6636 yes even nadal uses that grip for his slice instead of continental even at me first I was using that grip n ppl be telling me it’s wrong lol

@acurakim 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't Japan no.1 doubles player Ben McLachlan？

@kowaio-ijimenaideo 3 жыл бұрын

bai gaeshi ＼(´・ω・`)／ dao 11:27♪＼(´・ω・`)／♪SUPER SLOW

@muuhoang7592 3 жыл бұрын

Frankly, I enjoy the closing statement the most!

@kowaio-ijimenaideo 3 жыл бұрын

うほっ？(´・ω・`)

@cd8145 3 жыл бұрын

With that grip, wouldn’t the backhand volley racket face be too upward?

@KingCast65 3 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying!

@hafadaze9046 3 жыл бұрын

I think he inked uses it for forehand I use the same grip as well

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

no it wont because its the left hand that brings the racket in position

@hafadaze9046 2 жыл бұрын

@@thereisnogod3924 he’s talking about the grip so he’s correct the face will be high up with that grip

@thereisnogod3924 2 жыл бұрын

@@hafadaze9046 i see not 1 reason why it should be high open. take that eastern grip and take your ready position and now turn and watch the racket! now take the continentel grip and turn and tell me how much difference there is ??