it's not real fanfiction without some horrible jumbo paragraph solely dedicated to describing a character's boobs and clothes.

.......half?

What do you mean "half"?

@@ErikWarhammer I believe they are implying that in reality it’s a lot more than half

@@necromancedkoatle2727 So was I.

That's because he was born at an earlier date where just about anyone can fanfic. He did get exiled though. Another "classical" fanfic is Lancelot, they did Arthur dirty for the French OC insert.

@@reddytoplay9188 when your fanfic is so bad you get exiled 💀

You joke, but it's funny how much The Divine Comedy is like a bad fanfic by modern standards, like how he's hanging out with his favorite character watching all his "bullies" burn in hell.

I insert a personality of myself in the fanfic with their own ideals that conflict with mine.

550th like

She works retail in a universe where every Friday is black friday

So she’s basically a telenovela character. 😂 She would fit right in with everyone else and be with her own kind.

@@SterneStarfrost That would induce PTSD.

Honestly, that's a pretty good trait. Makes a character relatable for the audience.

@@SterneStarfrost Oh god...Is that a story about hell?

Exactly.

Watching this video made me worry if I was making any of these mistakes while writing

@@Frombeyondthehorizon6860 Just make sure that your OC acts like other characters, isn't overpowered, has a personality that isn't just "have sex" or "be edgy" and your OC will be tolerable at worst

@@dnaderelmasry7973 thanks for the advice

@@Frombeyondthehorizon6860 the advice that I gave isn't gonna help you out a lot, it's really just a very quick summary. My best advice would be to simply watch JP's character writing advice videos. Characterization, character development, and motives. Just to name a few.

ZAPPERS!

yea but he is also a marry sue

If he doesn't reply he doesn't like love triangles

The best thing about fanfics is that you get to kill the guy who says ZAPPERS all the time.

Zappers 👉😎👉

10/10 best girl

I would die for Honey

I would die for Honey, YOU will die for Honey. We all live for Honey.

This is brilliant.

Must protecc this good girl!

Finally a fanfic I’m willing to read

LOL! i would totally read that!

Finally, some good fanfiction

Well, if you guys are interested, I suppose I could take another shot at it? I only wrote it on paper, and tossed it out with my old stuff around a decade ago, but I might rewrite it someday.

@@timesnewlogan2032 Do it.

I agree. timestamp?

@@lubu682 kinda late but 2:57

@@thefriend1633 thanks

Timestamp for the quote?

@@malif1279 4:43

Yeah, it's possible to have a character that is the "perfect" most powerful and The smartest person ever, but it's how it's executed that makes it work. Example: Optimus Prime, Goku, Batman, Superman and Captin America.

Exactly! Superman was so popular and interesting that he inspired a whole new genre!

Superman if well written whatever pwoers he has wont solve a problem easy, or the fact that he cares and is really human, which can lwad to him struggle with th responsibility he burdens himself with, because thats his real superpower, that he somehow didnt completle crish under all that pressure. And a good way to challange him. The other way, he i very empathic, and extremely law abiding why his worst enemy is lex luthor as corrupt but clever politicial exploiting supes will no go him without him being caught being caught in a crime. An he is smart. So public smear campains are as legal and hurting, because supes has a too strict sense for moral for his own good, which can be exploited. And the other one as long as the characte bein held hostage reacts somehow not just waitin for supes and reacting on their own however, doent need to be badass,they can just struggle.Holding somehow hostage . oyeah powerulcharacters as long as that actually manifests in the character can be any flaw tochallengethem,they can like, one punch man, hus enemy, is boredom, and be cause he is cartoonish powerful, and that theme is reinforced, with that he never gets the credit he deserves, he doesnt care about, that works. (also its a gag manga, butthe borethom and monotomy making him depressed, is relatable as struggle) If youtake car its consistent and actually a problem or the charact and weighting on a character, subtile constant, not ovr th top once and never mattering later, thats a pretty good way giving otherwise op characters somethin they can struggle with. Dunno even in isekai power fantasies as long as the emotional stunted character and gradual growth can be actual be that. There is a really fun manga that time i ... zenithian armor that is a dragonqust fanic, where the character works actually, but also, its a former hikkikomorimangaka really showing that and the gradual growth on th journey with him still having in inferiority complex despite amazing people,.

*your But yeah, totally agree.

True.

😂

My OC-do-not-steal-self-insert is asexual like me, so no! HAH, TAKE THAT, I have outsmarted your cliché by making my cliché'd character even more of a self-insert!! ;)

@@AegixDrakan well played

aka Toy Story

Ooh, didn't realize that before!

@@kaylahouvenagle3866 Apparently in the original idea for the movie Woody was going to be the main villain, letting his jealousy of Buzz push him much further into a meltdown instead of a single bad action. Lotso in the 3rd one is based on that initial concept of Woody.

If I ever put in Mary Sue's or Gary Stu's into my writing, I'd have them be super OP, and either try to take over all reality, or slowly go insane from the lack of conflict and growth as everything becomes meaningless to them.

@@harrisonpeterson3733 so Megamind?

I tend to stick with realistic eye colors (brown, blue, green, and hazel. The other colors would be good for paranormal and horror fantasy fiction, but I don't write those).

yep it depends of the universe you re writing , if everone have "weird" eye color then it's acceptable

The eyes match the prose.

@@canaisyoung3601 I mean... people *can* have violet eyes it's just not that common

what if i hate violet as a color?

Or the guy who wrote "Fairy Tail" for that matter...

Nothing personnel kid

It hurts, but from experience, it's true.

Also the warrior cats fandom

A personal pastime of mine is googling a generic boy's name followed by "the hedgehog". The result usually ends up with Sonic as any possible color with any possible weapon.

I was disappointed when you didn't actually name your OC Donut Steele D:

Does he keep the body of hulk hogan in a box under his bed?

A harem of brothers?

So is he a Jojo character who escaped Jojos?

Gonna use Abilities: yes for my resume

True. Because for me, mary sue is end up like dictator word which is inherently means 'Something/someone I don't like'.

​@@SomethingNameArchivedSuperman is a Gary Stu. This is only replying to you since your comment made me think about this. Superman was the first ever Gary Stu

Recolored renamon? New original character!

@@hariman7727 I Laughed

@@hariman7727 I Laughed

@@hariman7727 kinda weird to use Digimon as an example, they make recolors all the time

@@WikiHL yeah, but furries elevate recolored characters to an artform. Especially Renamon.

As someone who is writing a Pokémon fanfic where Ash reflects on how he's 10 forever and nearly overshadowed by Pikachu with a holographic Professor Oak, I'm completely stunned he hasn't touched on *Dark Fanfics* yet.

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

Same here. I don’t think my oc is a Mary Sue but it’s definitely making my reevaluate her to make sure she’s actually good.

My advice for writing a fanfic OC is: Try your best not to interfere too much with the canon main story. Make them their own identity, personalities, backstory, and character. Of course, make sure they fit in the world somehow. No one would like to see a monster-slaying cyborg in the medieval era, are they?

@@gangzilla5716 Hah jokes on you, I’m not writing a fanfic about a sci-fi cyborg invading a medieval fantasy. I’m writing my own story for that…

Write what you know. And try to know as much as you can. Unlike Dan Brown.

Of course not! I didn’t spend months researching traditional Mongolian dress, herding practices and cuisine for a book. *laughs nervously and shoves notes under the bed*

Fortunately, write what you know doesn't mean you can only write what you've personally experienced, but it does mean draw on your experience to imagine how your characters might react to *similar* situations.

@@willparry530 one of the Gundum VA’s described how he acted his character’s reaction to his Gundam getting destroyed: remembering the time his wife backed the car over his new motorcycle. An anguished scream if there ever was one.

@@Ajehy That is a very good example, perfectly illustrates what I mean. :D

@Kayol56 That's usually the end result, yeah.

Don't forget to combine it with omnipotence-level OPness like all of my OCs and have them actually be the villains of their own story, no matter what they were intended to be, ruining the lives of all other characters as well as any storyline or narrative that I try to impose upon them

A Anti-Sue basically

To be fair, we *do* notice the flaws of those we don't like. And yes are more lenient on said flaws in those we do.

@@hellacoorinna9995 best way to find out about the true sue. Find someone who hates everything.

@@hellacoorinna9995 I'm mean yeah- but it is still very watered down

@@fattytan1377 Hah. Still, a character who's overly good at things well beyond what they should in the story, us a bit much. I'm sure there's a proper term but "Mary Sue/Gary Stu/Martt Stu" is the best known colliqual term.

@@Kevin_Theadore1 I mean the phrase "too good to be true" exists for a reason

Lol.

I wrote a fan fiction where the water tribe attacked.

A weapon to surpass Momo with a shotgun

Honestly, I'd consider reading that...

@@tanostrelok2323 Appa with a howitzer?

Step 1 : Make sure to always ship the two characters who have the least amount of screen time together.

@@ovahlord1451 People can write about any ship they want (well, they shouldn't, sometimes *cough* incest *cough* pedo), and especially rare ships, because the ones who like them rarely get any fanservice and would be happy to read about it.

@@ovahlord1451 Step 2: If they hate each other to death. It's not an "abusive relationship", it's just "QUIRKY!!1!!!1" and you're a HATER!!!1!!

@@ovahlord1451 and make sure they're both guys!

Make sure that the two characters who have been fighting for for thousands of years and try to kill each other on sight are shipped, because... um... fan logic. On that note, why do people even DO that hate to love trope?

Bloody brilliant!

Tf is your user

spy kids 3 did this

@@channelnameanddescription8999 holy fuck they did didn't they

There was a horror movie that did this, sort of. The archetypical Badass Hero busts in and gets killed by the monsters immediately. His wife (archetypical heroine, just called ‘heroine’ iirc-) does better for awhile but is killed accidentally by dumb bad luck. So the single mom (whose kid got axed on screen, in a blazing display of ‘haha yeah you thought we wouldn’t axe the kid didn’t you?’ Ends up as ‘heroine 2’. ‘Feast’ I think it was called.

Make him an immortal god and you're there

I’m honestly willing to excuse giving a character a lot of power if said character was the Cabbage Merchant from ATLA specifically

@@labrys3422 "After suffering defeat after defeat reaching his breaking point this man still had a job to do, to sell cabbages by any means necessary."

@@ghoul4748 not going to lie I would read/watch that.

Kuvira did get a Gundam, and it indeed broke the Avatar Universe in that crackfic.

Especially when taking the OC behind the woodshed...

So that’s why I’ve been hearing someone laughing for the past week

This comment it good, but also funny to me since I recently imagined one of my OCs fighting some protagonist. They wouldn't because one of them might die and that's not worth it for them. That's how I know they aren't just extremely overpowered xD

This doesn't quite work though; you can work a character that couldn't be threatened physically, but also doesn't have reason to just go blow x, y and z up to fix the whole world. Like, iunno, take One Piece as an example - you can make a character able to beat all four emperors simultaneously, but that doesn't let them solve the whole "shitty government and world full of super-criminals" thing. You still have huge opportunity for conflict, having this busted character come to grips with just how much influence they could have on the world, realise consequences for their actions and extrapolate that to blowing up Mariejois, draw their line for when it's worth turning someone into a smear on the ground.

There are so many canon Anime/Manga/Light Novel characters that don't qualify for that second part.

@@manoflead643 don't forget about Saitama, dude's literally God but he's losing his human emotions and just does hero stuff for fun (as he claims, at least)

@@R3GARnator Yeeaaahhh, *coughs at basically every shonen*

I died at that part 😆 🤣

Fun Fact : In Legend of Kora he really started mech production =D

Must be Latin America's Alabama.

I never saw Encanto because i did not like it and it reminded Me of why I hated Coraline and Croods and Paddington and Sooty and The Book of Life based on trailers and actually seeing the full films Paddington, Croods and Book of life themselves.

​@@SapphirePlainswhat the fuck does any of this have to do with anything

Screw done right, I want to see it done wrong! Wouldn't that be just as hilarious? XD

@@ctnc6059 suppose it would be..... I guess he needs to write this now.... Whether done right OR wrong it would be fun

@@khalidgagnon8753 Why don't we write it ourselves? Whatever horrific mangled corpse of a story we spawn will certainly be more entertaining than whatever Netflix thinks they're going to do with the franchise.

There was an episode of gargoyles that basically had a long suffering background character do exactly that to the main gargoyle Goliath.

@@generalstaal7075 we start now

You feel that shot that was fired?

Me: but I don't watch anime :) Internet: We don't care! Me: oh :(

Make it books and I will be dead lol

He just called us out.

Shots fired... At several thousand people watching this, myself included O o f

They only ever apply to human[oid] characters.

@@AwesomeYena I trust your opinion very suspicious hyena

Then that means he will. There were a couple of Simpsons episodes that had Poochie come back (the Itchy and Scratchy episode where there's a funeral for Scratchy, the episode where Bart and Milhouse run Comic Book Guy's store and they put the Poochie merchandise on clearance [though the original dialogue had it as "South Park merchandise"] and that Halloween episode where Poochie gets run over by a police car).

*NO ONE CAN ESCAPE THE COMIC RELIEF*

@@CygnusTheSilly ZAP TO THE EXTREME!!!

But somehow less soulless.

@@DonVigaDeFierro You mean more soulless?

@@Ethan5I5 just as soulless?

What even is an 'influencer, anymore?

@ A miserable little pile of secrets

Long ago team Avatar lived together in peace and harmony but then everything changed when the cabbage man attacked.

So are most fanfiction writers to be fair

@@electroflame6188 my sides

This is literally how it happened and I love it. m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8WamqleuJ2YZqM.html

@@Ajehy Yeah that video is fun & more comprehensive than the others history on the Legend of Arthur I've watched

Of which I'm glad because f Lancelot

I was about to comment the same thing, then I saw this comment. Lancelot was at least somewhat tolerable as an OC because in his stories, he kind of thrust himself into being the center of attention and in universe had built up a reputation of martial prowess. Galahad on the other hand... He did not die when he attempted to bear a certain shield that no one but the "worthiest knight in the world" could wear. Oh and he defeated Lancelot and Percival both while in disguise for some reason. And how all the minor characters and supernatural beings fawned over him, about how he was the only one "pure" enough to complete this task or that. Mind you, I have only read a book containing a collection of abridged Arthurian legends.

Then there's Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.

Agreed

I feel like the love triangle could become more of an easter egg, placing it in somewhat hidden spots or subtler jokes so people start searching for them, it wouldn't leave the joke abandoned, while also giving it a new place in the TWAEU

A triangle with two canon characters is a must.

8:25 there’s the triangle

We're in a love triangle with JP and the love triangle.

Bless you for typing that out! I was going to do that myself otherwise!

The Cabbage Man: "There's about to be war in Ba-Sing-Se"

I want to read "Cabbage Man vs. Melon Lord"!

When Equalists choose Cabbage Corp for mechsuit contract instead of Future Industries.

You forgot one thing: they have to be better at those things. After all, how can Zuko fall in love with someone if they’re not a better fire bender than he is?

Selfcest?

*Oncelers enter the group chat* Edit: typo

Ah yes, the copy sue.

Yep, and just gender bend them and there you have it! A new love interest

Can I read your OC? Looks amazing

Sounds super cool.

I wasn't interested until you mentioned the elbow fireballs. Now I have to read it!

El bow the Firehog

Elbow

It has fed on the blood of numerous OCs until it became one itself. It is like a Tardis +20 at this point.

Fun fact: Apparently if you're trying to apply for a job as a TV show writer, fanfic looks better than original fiction in your portfolio, because it shows that you can write effectively in someone else's setting using someone else's characters.

I mean, fanfiction is _real_ writing... You have to write in the same way as you would original fiction. It's obviously hit _really_ hard with the might of the Sturgeon's law, but if it's good, it's good.

@@ettinakitten5047 Writing for film or TV is probably the most ungrateful job there is. Most of the time, those credited as "writers" only reviewed what other poor idiot (or many) did.

Oh yeah, this type of stuff actually makes me interested in fanfiction now. I did get into roleplay at one point just for that exact type of thing, just fans making up their own stories, just in the world of a property I enjoy. I feel like the *less than quality* stuff rises to the top only for its erotic appeal, but idk, if I have some spare time and feel like digging, I might give it a go, might scratch that same itch.

@@Yipper64 Ikr. I didnt know some fanfics genuinly tired to improve on the story they are based on. You have to imagine my surprise when I found just how many fanfics out there were tagged *no romantic relationships* and focused on plot. I always thought fanfic was about dirty shipping until now.

I dislike this type of fanfic a lot, only because it feels so redundant. Unless the presence of the OC brings several changes and alterations to the story, there's little to no point in reading when I can just watch the actual episode and get the same amount of enjoyment, if not more than the fic.

I hate this as well. Its merely full on recaps of the series I just watched and the OC doesn't really have any point being there. It's fine to tell the canon story with the OC, just make the OC's presence offer something different to the plot and diverge from canon.

reminds me of this one zootopia x guardians of galaxy crossover, i was so excited to read it but then it pretty much copied all the beats from the zootopia movie

I hate those. It’s basically just like reading the original work with in annoying kid talking in your ear. If the OC doesn’t add anything to the story, there’s no point to having them in it.

I’m Proud of being a Merlin casual, even when I was a kid.

also: romeo and juliet by shakespeare

Marvel: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover ever Dante's Divine Comedy: you sure about that?

I'd say the Bible fanfic sequel called "The New Testament" is more popular. The OC character is the son of the canon protagonist, but has super cool powers no one in the original had, and is loved by everyone except the villains, and sacrifices himself after suffering super anguish, before getting resurrected and saving the world.

LOL Lancelot is the great grandfather of all Gary Stus. He actually was not in the original Arthurian legend at all. There was Arthur and Guenivere as the royal couple of Camelot, and that was about it. They seemed to have a decent stable marriage at the time. Lancelot was added in a later version by a different author. Who does this guy think he is? He is all goody goody as a knight. He has enough power to rule Camelot, while the Holy Grail quest writes Arthur out of the plot. Ruling Camelot takes this OC of Lancelot and makes him OP. On top of that, Lancelot is so hot that he attracts not just any woman, but Queen Guenivere herself. There is shipping involved. This makes Lancelot even more OP. Sure it tanks the marriage and dooms the kingdom, but it is okay because Lancelot can get whatever he wants. Ugh. What a Gary Stu. Maybe the writer had the hots for Guenivere and then made Lancelot to fulfill his sick twisted fantasies.

The majority Evangelion fanfiction I’ve seen all have Shinji become some idealized version of the author rather than a well-written and thought-provoking character

@@demi_shin Oh yeah that's true.

@@demi_shin Did he start playing Warhammer 40k?

See Xander Harris in any number of _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ fanfics. Because clearly the thing to do with the one normal guy (who still chooses to put himself in harm's way and save the day) is to turn him into some flavor of super-powered badass that sidelines all the canonical characters. Which isn't to say they can't be fun to read, but when you effectively skin a canon character so your OC can wear it... well, the only benefit is that you probably don't have to explain why your OC is hanging with the cast.

@@boobah5643 Betrayal of Ash Ketchum fanfics.

I'd be surprised if he didn't lmao. It's like the #1 bad fanfic out there.

There's a second reference to that fanfic in this video, where Harry Potter mentions Marty McFly coming out of nowhere.

One of these day's I need to dig this thing up and witness this thing for myself...

The reference makes me slit my wrists in joy.

@@tomleary508 Honestly it's definitely something you HAVE to see with your own eyes. Describing it doesn't do it justice.

Like who?

Because people tend to dislike fanfiction by either first impression, or having "lmao most fanfictions suck" shoved down their throat so much that they're shitting that opinion on creative works, even if unintentional. Also, it's easier to feel uncomfortable if not alot of people know about something as compared to the big shows and books that most people have watched/read once in their life; not to mention it's generally produced by one person, as opposed to many people working on it. Typically many people would lead you to believe (unconciously) that the characters have been thought out more, as they would have bounced around ideas and had others check things for them; whereas fanfiction writers are usually a single person who may or may not write out their characters and story in advance... you'll never know.

It's because fanfiction, as a medium, is more "well-known" for having a lot of really bad stories. When you expect to see bad writing, you're more likely to notice even the relatively minor flaws in whatever work you're reading. On the other hand, since people expect published works by major studios to be good, people look at them through less of a critical lens and thus are more likely to miss even the more severe mistakes that the author makes. This is especially true in animated shows and comic books, where visual spectacle can distract the viewer from bad writing (as opposed to most standard fanfiction, where the writing absolutely HAS to stand on its own merits due to the lack of visuals.)

Novels and manga are not remotely comparable

Ouch, the burn with the Naruto line, for me , I don't go to fanfic expecting grade A writing and you can tell if the fanfic will deal with characters or story based off the summary, honestly the I find myself more harsh towards books or fanfic turn book than actual fanfiction, I guess it easier to give advice on writing or critic writing mistakes by criticizing fanfic (ahem"Wattpad"ahem)which don't always have these flaws On a side note which character do you think was wasted in Naruto?

Just look at half the SCPs on the foundations archive for decommissioned SCPs. Most of them are OP OCs and the only two that aren’t are there just for being poorly written.

@@meloneatingwolf1882 Half the Archive is that long?! I'm disgusted

@@cyberprime9355 no just the decommissioned page. It’s was used for SCPs that didn’t meet their standards of quality and there are only 8 on there. Bad SCPs became deleted as it saved time later on though. The foundation is overall very good. The decommissioned part isn’t something you would usually find.

@@meloneatingwolf1882 their standards did drop though. Basically anything more than 1000 has nifty writing. Any more than 2000 is probably internally inconsistent.

I know right? I listened to that and was like- "Well. ... That escalated quickly." (Even though I knew that exact thing was gonna happen when he mentioned the shed. ) TWA Universe J.P is now a murderer! (But I absolutely love murder characters- so I can overlook it. XD)

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE SCOTLAND FOREVER *EXTREMELY LOUD SCOTTISH ANTHEM* But in all honesty that would be a fun train wreck to observe

Yes, except for the conflict, tension, character development... you know, despite that it would be exactly like highlander.

@@BobSmith-cg2ek lol.

...So basically your standard battle royale type action anime. Except everyone is weirdly OP (no designated obviously-gonna-lose characters if EVERYONE is a Mary Sue), there's a love decohedran or something happening, and the animators all had mental breakdowns because of how ridiculously complicated everyone's character designs were.

If everyone is a mary sue, no one is

Didn't isekai cover that, or is that something else entirely?

@@canaisyoung3601 Isekai can include travel to other time periods, but that's not typically what we'd consider a "time travel plot".

I love time travel plots if they are done well

It can get very confusing if it's not quickly established how time travel does and doesn't work.

50% are good, 50% are terrible, 100% are illogical so don't think about it too much. X)

As opposed to mildly pregnant...

@@Amy_the_Lizard Did he stutter?

Look at dem BEANS what du fuq!

Good thing I don't understand romance, then. I generally avoid writing it, because I know it'll suck, so my fics only have canon ships. With the occasional cursed ship thrown in for my personal amusement at my readers' expense.

I rarely see love triangles in anime fanfics... But I see harem. A LOT.

@@Pablo-pt4du Welcome to anime.

@@Pablo-pt4du I see I'm not the only one who started on the dark side of anime.

As an anime fan who dabbles in fanfictions, i have to wholeheartedly agree.

Exactly. It's basically impossible to write a character or story without them having at least some connection to yourself. It just matters how well written said character is/if the reader can tell or not.

Back in mf FnaF fan days, I tried to write a self insert character (because I wanted to cosplay them) and within a week he was a flawed character with his own backstory. He was a trans guy working at the pizzeria to get the last little bit of money he needed for Top Surgery. In case you're wondering.

I think there is a difference between a self insert and giving certain characters traits that you yourself have. Full self inserts are usually either "perfect" and static characters or they overcome some minor flaw and progress linear as a character. The motivation is usually to glorify oneself. Giving a character certain traits of your own however just makes them believeable, because you can draw from your own experience and make the character more realistic. It also gives you more of a "I understand that character" rather than a "That's me and I'm amazing!" attitude towards them. Overidentifying with a character can cause writers to want to protect that character from bad experiences, making mistakes and death at all costs, none of that is a great basis for an interesting or realistic character.

@@thecheerfulnecromancer2257 that’s actually a really interesting reason someone would continue working at a place that’s clearly dangerous

@@NatalieExists That was the idea, lmao

It’s called TERRIBLE writing advice for a reason.

@@cosmicspacething3474 yeah but the terrible writing advice isn't always his :P

In a way, J.C feels like he is the OC of a TWA fan who doesn't understand why he/she loves TWA.

@@shaunjimbangan1166 lol, sounds about right.

this is super important for young writers. I did this when i was 13. My first OC was a red twi'lek character who was force sensitive BUT not a jedi BUT she did have lightsabers (she used two, Clone Wars hadnt aired yet so it was still unique). i let her go a long time ago, she's not a character i use anymore, but that period was important for me to figure out how to worldbuild, how to write, and how to make a compelling story. let people have space and time to grow :)

The thing is: you need someone to point the mistakes I wish someoned did it to me, for a long time I though that I was a good writer because no one actually criticised my stories but they actually sucked Also, if the storie is just for yourself, is better to not pu lish it in a social space, where lots of people are free to read and give criticism

Yeah, I totally agree with this. I starting writing on wattpad when I was *7*, and let me tell you it was absolute crap but I really enjoyed writing it. I'm still a teen, and I know I can't write convincing adult characters, so I don't. I write teenagers, because that's what I know, that's what I can do

​@@musicasimples9435 Fair enough, but care has to be given when giving feedback to young writers; most of them haven't yet separated the art from the artist, and are thus extremely protective of their stories as extensions of themselves. Being overly cruel can result in a permanent hit to a young writer's overall self-esteem or even stop them from writing altogether. Receiving and implementing critique is also, unfortunately, a skill that must be honed, and it takes a lot of patience to help a person develop this skill. There really ought to be more literature on helping children and teens develop a critical eye. It's necessary, but I feel like it never gets talked about.

Blessed be, my guy. While it is very important for young writers to be given their space to grow, it’s also important to teach them to handle criticism since everyone gets it and it’s impossible to please everyone. When I was younger, my characters absolutely sucked and I really needed someone to tell me that. I wish I’d been told sooner because now I look back and want to actually die. Unrelated, but a few lil notes for when I make characters So, we all like to make our characters pretty, it’s just a natural thing. Something I really love doing, though, is giving them some obvious imperfection in their appearance so that way it’s clear they’re not perfect. For a few examples: Violet has thick, bushy eyebrows Fabe has thin eyelashes and squinty eyes Mindy has thin, dry lips Annie has a big nose Opeia has a very prominent birthmark over the left half of her face, as well as many scars from her travels and adventures Mira has two extremely important facial scars from her backstory, one of which was caused by an accident that also broke her nose. From it, her lips are split, her nose is crooked, one eyelid droops a bit and her eyebrow is split. Kokona has smaller eyes and is also rather chubby. Not that there’s anything wrong with being chubby, but it’s not the traditional hourglass figure. Yvaine has very frizzy hair and has quite a few rather rediculous facial expressions Zarya has by far the most annoying laugh. To type it into text: Hyuhyuhyuhyuh There’s something so fun about finding a conventionally attractive design, then throwing something different into it. It mixes things up and makes it clear that the character isn’t absolutely perfect. That’s how it is for me anyway. As another note, I find this is a good tool for when you’re writing up a list of traits for your character’s personality. Start with the negative traits. If you find that you have way too many, it’s okay to get rid of a few. If there are too little, it’s good to add some more in. But that’s just my two cents

I'm also a big fan of the "normal person" OC who has a conversation with the protagonist one time and all the crazy stuff the protagonist does and says haunts the oc for life

@@hannahfanning9585 Oh god, those are awesome. The emotionally scarred Everyman who wants nothing to do with all the monsters, explosions and/or hijinks. Bonus points if he owns a cabbage cart.

@@Ajehy lol

@@hannahfanning9585 reminds me of this one Naruto fanfiction where the protagonist is some cocky rando who was ambushing the Sand Village. The story ends with him getting humbled and traumatised for getting his squad killed by their target

Reminds me of a Mass Effect 3 fic I read a long time ago which was about the girl NPC in the Citadel refugee camp who lost her parents and a cop who decides to take her in so that she is not getting abused by the criminal gangs in the camp. It also referenced the plot from the game, Cerberus trying to take over the Citadel for instance is one case. I don't remember if it was good or not, but I remember reading it through the end. I also do not know what the name was, but I believe it is actually one of the more well known fics out there.

Jp was so annoyed by OC that he didn't even bother to hide the body. He wanted the world to see the change

Still a better character development than 91% of all other OCs

✋

"And in his vengence, he discovered cabbage bending. No one has seen such technic before, and no one was ready for it."

When he snapped, he instantly mastered metal bending.

I mean, he was a founder of the Cabbage Corp...

Sorry Cabbage man, but Hiroshi already did that :'C

J-Teeth

overused meme

@@barriehannon6857 true, but this one got a chuckle out of me.

i never noticed that AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@@adenosine2electricboogaloo647 i don't like sand

I feel like everyone had their own self insert into their favorite thing when they were a kid, it's just that some of us wrote them down and some of us didn't

@@hannahfanning9585 or drew them. Or (in my case) their Digimon.

@@Ajehy valid

@@hannahfanning9585 I mean, I wrote a definite self-insert for a Teen Titans fanfiction, soooooo...yeahhhhhh

Whatever the fuck my universe is, which seems to be an unholy Spore-Starbound crossover but 83% original:

And don't forget to genderbend the entire cast into the harem.

@@chittasenapati1430 good attitude. Why stop at romancing Hermionie, Luna and Ginny when you could also romance Harriet, Ronda, Nevelyn, Dracosephine and Severa?

Basically why I just don't read fanfics anymore.

Tongues? Grinding? I'm going to chalk that up to you trying to keep the comment family-friendly.

​@@Mario_Angel_Medina Well now I need this in my life.

I'm curious, what series are you talking about?

The Divine Comedy is mostly it's own work, so calling Dante an OC of his own story is kinda weird. He also claims that it is a retelling of a journey he's actually been on, so it again is strange to call him an OC. Also, he was good with poetry, but the story itself is almost the same as a power fantasy fanfic.

@tuluppampam I call him an OC because he's a self insert in such a laughably obvious power fantasy that had it been written today, Dante would have been laughed out of the publishers office To be honest, though, Lancelot is more of an actual OC Secret Prince raised by the Lady of the Lake The best knight of the round table Queen Guinevere totally loved him and not her husband Women were throwing themselves at him left, right, and center One woman even went so far as to shapeshift herself into Guinevere so she could have his kid The Christianizqtion of the King Arthur story sort of retconned him a bit Like reworking his and Guinevere's affair from a romantic courtly love story into garden variety adultery Also, making it clear at literally every turn that he was unworthy to look upon the Holy Grail (culminating in a scene where he found the Grail chamber only to be smacked with a fireball that knocked him out fir a couple weeks... instead of killing him... somehow) He eventually had to shave his head and become a monk, vow of celibacy, and everything Even the story about Arthur learning about the affair is kinda funny He's at this castle with Morgan le Fay, and she pointed out this humongous mural Lancelot made of him and Guinevere Not as one of her plots to kill him, she had long since given up on that at this point, she just felt bad about his wife cheating on him Why did Lancelot make a huge mural of him banging King Arthur's wife on a castle wall? Because he's stupid

They're not women, they're a different species entirely

@@Nzosaba_Matenge Humam.

Like from Italian "mondo documentaries"?

@@tbana2396 Huwoman "Womankind"

That Trope annoys me to no end.

69th like lol

Damn, I remember I wrote a Naruto fanfiction ages ago... I think I was just entering high school and was still young and naive... Anyways, it was like 20 pages long and it was trash. I remember a kid wanted to draw me the OCs, which he did, but the drawing was lost forever (and it wasn't too bad). Then my friends and I wanted to make a writing circle, but obviously never happened... (Mind sharing your Wattpad?) Gee. Thanks for the Vietnam flashbacks. If you want to know (you most likely don't), what little I remember is that: My fanfic was about this group of shinobis from an ass backwater village known for producing great mercenaries... They were already battle hardened ninjas at 12(?) because they started killing people since they were children (why? because!) It was a team of 2 dudes and a girl (because that's the natural order of things)... Their first mission was to KILL GAARA of all people (this was during the chuunin exams) with an overly contrived plan that involved *infiltrating the exams...* but they obviously failed... Their next mission was to destroy a vial containing Jiraiya's cells (you know, because you wouldn't have trouble getting the DNA of an old pervert drunkard). They fight the Akatsuki and succeed in their objective, but probably die anyways... I don't remember their names, but what little cringe I remember about the characters is: One of the dudes had a special golden eye conjunctivitis like the Sharingan which allowed him to ZA WARUDO for a couple of seconds, which to outsiders appeared as if he was stupidly fast... Aaaannd he could also use the Kamui... For reasons... And the Rasengan... He was redheaded, if I remember correctly. He used a tanto knife as a weapon. The other guy could use the shadow clone jutsu and the chidori... And the Rasengan... He had brown spiky hair... IIRC. The girl basically had ghost powers like going through walls and making herself invisible (which was stupidly useful for a ninja)... And she could also use the Rasengan... and fire jutsus... She was blonde... IIRC. They wore actual military gear, including camouflage, helmets, goggles and acted like actual ninjas (with the whole covert assassinations and espionage shit)... Which didn't really matter because they had to act like freshman students for 99% of the first part... I don't remember them having romantic feelings for any of the canon characters... I just remember that during the exams they were impressed by Neji and Rock Lee (because who wouldn't?). One of them (or the three) also had seal powers... But I don't remember which one, or if it was relevant... It was overall, teenager low effort...

Yeaaaah Im currently "writing" a fanfic that's technically a video game about Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Part 5. The OC is the player insert character whose Initials is just Jo NO or you can call them whatever name you liked. However, the game is half crackfic half a bit more serious fanfic, and I intentionally made Player OC's personality based on what _those kinds of_ Jojo fans think they will act when they get into the story setting (of course, I'm talking about their personalities, Player-chan wouldn't be aware that JJBA is an anime nor knows what happens next). Everything in that game plays the same in the anime's storyline except after Player OC got into Passione with Giorno, team Buccellati were given an additional week to guard Trish compared to the anime where immediately the story moved forward to facing one of the hitman team's assassin. Here's the fun part of it: in within that week, you get to interact with Buccelatti's team; and you get to explore much around how Passione works and meet up and see how the other men do as side quests (I haven't really implemented it but I planned on it) I don't plan Player OC to be like this forever. Their character growth will be being humble slapped by everyone. This is honestly the most effort I've put on a fanfic ever.

@@n-extrafries-surprise That actually sounds pretty cool. Reminds me of the Yamcha SD story where the kid gets to become Yamcha and does his best to survive up until the Buu saga. Bu that's an genuinely a good idea. And you give more time to expand upon material, makes sense. If you ever finish though...try and make sense of Epitaph. I know I need to officially sit down and watch JoJo on my own merit for like a month beyond just research, but Diavolo's stand nature still confuses the hell out of me.

@@sxwriter8569 oh, I already got around with Epitaph since I finished doing Doppio and Risotto's fight already. It's actually a pain since sometimes the reading is wrong and Risotto would try doing that move a turn or two later. With King Crimson... I imagine it stealing your extra turn (if you have it), or making everyone immobile for one turn. I noticed he spams the hell out of it during the fight with Bruno at the chapel on that island in Venice but I'll try and go work around that. Glad you think the idea is cool :) I also wanted to turn it into like Persona too with the turn based aspect of it and the time where you get to interact with others in Bruno's team

Thank you, I wanted better advice than just to not write in the main canon storyline.

Ooh that’s awesome. I hope the Simpsons will be subjected to this upcoming goddamn fun video!

True.

I'm technically making an x reader story right now. Except, it's in video game format. And yes, everyone is a potential love interest as long as you dont fvck up

I personally don't like those because I don't want to be a homewrecker-

@@cccaaa702 people rarely show that interest in others anymore:

True. Reader-inserts are also really nice as comfort fics because they make you feel appreciated and loved when you're down and need some love. Although they can also be mildly cringe-worthy... (but that also may be because I don't have a daddy kink...)

But would the writer need to research weebs or actual japanese culture to pull it off

@@victorhundred8621 I would say yes, because you need to show the actual culture in contrast tp show how false the weeb culture is and the problems it creates.

I mean, it sorta feels like putting everything into mimicry, but not how good the mimicry is.

I like the idea of just having someone be a weeb for the Klingon or something instead.

No it doesnt

"MEMES! THE DNA OF THE SOUL!"

@@dr.fiction7 "YOUR MEMES END HERE"!

@@dr.fiction7 Yep

All your memes are belong to us!

So like Pindorama in Red Flood?

Sometimes I create Gary Stu deliberately, to contrast with the other flawed characters.

This is why I like Attack on titan it point out that problem (literal genocide by the "good guys") That's how politics works in real life: "the end justify the means" "It's bad, unless I'm the one doing it, because (insert self serving hypocrital reason)" "We are the good guys because we call themselves the good guys"

What kind of KZfaq channels are you seeing?

True

What’s 40k?

@@thelancerfromtimeline1009 warhammer 40k. In the grim darkness of the near future there is only war.

I mean you're not wrong... Funnily enough keeping a 40K crossover character from being overpowered is a lot harder than I ever thought it would be...

The truly overpowered characters are the ones with the thickest plot armor (see: TAU).

now i need a gender swap

I look through the comments to find some else who noticed this

I gasped.

Context please?

@@Jose04537 ask your self this “what’s the worst fanfic ever written” then type it into KZfaq. You’ll get the worst Harry Potter fanfic ever.

@@atheist2025 My inmortal, I see....

I'd read that fanfic. Clearly, business tycoon from Earth Kingdom could actually take over eventually, and probably would even have ties to allow development of advanced technology.

@@Barianus He founded a pretty successful corporation during the times of the Legend of Korra, so... having mechs won't be out of question, given, that his competitor with somewhat higher tech level was able to make them for terroristic group.