Tesla Model Y real world review EV road trip - the good, bad and ugly
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Күн бұрын1500 mile real world road trip in a Tesla Model Y - the most practical EV in Europe? The ultimate electric SUV? The news about continued rises of fuel costs is grim, but hopefully it will act as a catalyst for increasing renewable energy adoption.
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With that in mind, Jonny spent last week driving to, from and around Scotland and the North West, filming content… in an EV. Specifically the £55,000 331-mile range Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD.
Instead of a brief launch drive, we thought it was about time Jonny got to know the UK spec Model Y and do a bit of real-world long distance travel in one. Tesla tried to lend us one, but couldn't manage the time frame we needed. Step in ‘R Symons EV’ specialists, whom we must namecheck (www.rsymons.co.uk / / rsymonsltd ) because owner Richard immediately offered to lend Jonny his two week old Tesla Y and load miles onto it. Good chap.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:38 Preheat early departure
2:54 First Supercharger rapid charge
4:00 Y or ID.4 or Ariya or Enyaq or Mach-e?
4:22 Full tech spec
5:16 Using the Tesla phone app
5:34 Charging specs
6:24 Cabin design
8:13 Buy one purely for Supercharger network?
9:18 SUSPENSION TOO STIFF
9:50 Aftermarket air suspension
10:35 Winter range
11:19 5 seater only
11:29 Thanks to R Symons
11:54 Rear seat space
13:22 Electrically drop down seats
13:32 BOOT SPACE
14:00 Boot space Vs rivals
15:26 Why no HUD?!
15:52 White interior paranoia
16:24 TOO.... STIFF....
17:21 Autopilot meh
17:48 Remote unlocking / sentry
18:17 Exterior design thoughts
18:52 Elon's S3XY line up
19:06 Dimensions
19:53 BLOBFISH face
20:30 No range anxiety. No silly charging apps
21:10 CHARGING COSTS AND STATS over 1500 miles
22:30 Why no door cameras?
23:00 Frunk / froot space
23:52 Rival frunk / froot space
24:32 All Tesla models at Supercharger stop
24:53 Sentry mode captures crash!
25:48 In car entertainment options
27:43 Would you one?
28:15 Fart mode silliness
29:25 Verdict. What does Jonny think?
#teslamodelyreview #teslayrange #teslaroadtrip #thelatebrakeshow #modely #4k
@ernied3123 2 жыл бұрын
“Y front all covered in jazz” That’s gold Jonny. I don’t even like modern cars but I never miss one of your reviews just to listen to the way you describe them. You are without a doubt the best car reviewer on KZfaq. Thanks again for all the great content. Cheers.
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Ernei, cheers! 👍🏽
@stevenichols4639 Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you use a brush on a paint job? Have you lost your mind?😮
@rickb296 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenichols4639 Especially a 2 micron thin Tesla paint job! Most cars have a thick clear lacquer coat. A clean brush is no problem. Besides, this isn't his car!!!! 😁
@quaaludes7898 2 жыл бұрын
I would have the Y without question. I'm not a Tesla guy but as an EV, you really can't beat their infrastructure and tech.
@CD88DT 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell you how refreshing it is to find a REAL review of this vehicle. I’ve lost track of how many garbage videos I’ve sifted through while the owner talks about “the amazing interior” followed by 10 minutes of road noise 🙄 and nothing else. Absolute trash. This solidified my decision to get the Y. Much appreciated!
@mpersad 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video - informative, objective and excellent production values. In my opinion this is better than anything, on a similar subject, that I've watched on UK TV. The beauty of YT is that channels have the time to deliver this detailed content. Well done to all involved. I learnt a hell of a lot!
@iBackBeat 2 жыл бұрын
Model Y because of the Superchargers, the Software, the batterytec, the efficiency, the space 🤩👍.
@interceptor-ss8kb 2 жыл бұрын
Why I would save up and buy the better looking faster more efficient Model S
@ChocolateFrog 2 жыл бұрын
Just not for the looks.
@raymondz595 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChocolateFrog I know that the taste is subjective but what are talking about dude?? Its not NEARLY as ugly as the they claim in this video and definitely SHOULDN'T be a dealbreaker when deciding to buy. This car is SUCH an amazing accomplishment by Tesla and an absolute bargain if you compare to other EVs.
@doubleclutchonline5811 2 жыл бұрын
@@interceptor-ss8kb The Model S isn't more efficient. The S and Z range is better than the 3 and Y because the battery is at least 20% larger.
@interceptor-ss8kb 2 жыл бұрын
@@doubleclutchonline5811 you forget the Model S is much more aerodynamic then the Y which means more efficient
@knitware 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review! I have had my Y since early March, the sum of its parts makes for a wonderful family car in so many ways. It's my first EV and driving the Y is effortless, the torque and handling is superb, 'one' peddle driving, sound system, the view out. For suspension, I have 19" wheels with pressures set to 40psi, that seems to be the comfort setting. Don't worry too much about the speedo to the left of sight, (or right if in EU etc) it isn't an issue. Set the seat/steering to your profile, partner to theirs, set once, tweak and forget. I have some issues with Spotify not linking, mobile chap will pop out to fix. Don't worry about being labeled a Tesla fan boy, I'm not, it was just, for me, the best car to suit our needs and an easy purchase with respect to lead times. The car is great, in fact it's a joy, it makes you feel good, it makes you look forward to the drive, I am also a 'cool' dad in my children's school!
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
I'm saving up for an ev, hopefully by 2035 I'll have enough to buy a second hand Renault Zoe, just have to put up with my smokey old banger for another 13 years lol
@kevhippo 2 жыл бұрын
Have to seen the supposed fix for Spotify? Allow all sources in media settings, change display language to English, let it restart, open Spotify, it should load. Then change language back to British English. Solved it for me.
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevhippo blimey, you need to be a tech head to do things like that! I wouldn't have a clue lol
@kevhippo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markcain268 no it’s the joys of a friendly Facebook Model Y group that share their fixes.
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevhippo oh no, not Facebook lol, deleted that years ago, yeah it's the same with classic cars, join a group and there's plenty of free advice about your car
@Bigreddogs2007 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on review! Not only talked about the features but included the ups and downs of the model. Love the way you set up the video with the segments labeled so when I leave and come back I can find where I left off. Great work all in all and very entertaining as well as informative. Thanks - I have subscribed and look forward to seeing additional new content and will spend some time watching previous reviews. A truly professional job. Well done!
@johnjeanporterone2onedietc276 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a model 3 for almost three years and have just ordered the Y. I cannot find words to describe just how fantastic Teslas are, and have to say that I think they look absolutely amazing. One is normally excited about a new car for the first week or three, then the excitement wears off. Three years down the line I am just excited about my Tesla as I was on day one.
@ChocolateFrog 2 жыл бұрын
Have you had your eyes tested recently 😂, they're the most bland non-descript looking cars on the road. I've never seen anyone beside a proper fanboy say they look amazing.
@-A-lm5xb 11 ай бұрын
@@ChocolateFrog Totally agree, I think they look awful and the interiors just as bad - absolutely nothing apart from that "TV screen" which almost looks as though it's been stuck on the dash as an afterthought because they forgot to put any controls into it, and that god awful plastic centre console. On a cheap car I could understand it, not one at the price of a Tesla.
@zakymaa 7 ай бұрын
Tempting between model 3 and Y especially after the new refresh of the 3, would you please let me know your experience since you tried both models?
@timsnipe8960 2 жыл бұрын
Really no need to worry about the white fake leather seats. I ran the X for 4 years. The kids did their best to permanently soil them all during that time and when I sold it they were still factory fresh. Agree on the looks though. Beyond challenging.
@michaellafave1886 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW we replaced a Range Rover with a Model Y for DD and weekend cottage runs. It's a brilliant tool for carrying people in comfort with tons of gear and cheap to run. Perfect? No. Brilliant? Yes. Great review Johnny. Incidentally...I've had 9 911s and I rather like the styling of the Model Y ;-)
@bjcliving386 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE MY HEART STOPPED when you started using the car wash brush. Here in Australia you'd never use one haha full of dirt and scratches the car.
@aviationboy8 2 жыл бұрын
It did scratch the car, you can see the swirls when he looks at the dent :/
@llbpll 2 жыл бұрын
I’d probably go with a Y. There’s a lot to like about the others, but I think the Y is ultimately the best total package.
@froggy0162 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s like a 3 but slower, worse handling and that horrible high seat position.
@teslataxi4546 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggy0162 - I'd agree with that. Test drove the Y and was like "this is like a shit version on my Model 3" rolled around and was too slow.....I need a faster car than my Model 3 now.
@inter3988 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggy0162 make it clear, you just cannot afford it
@froggy0162 2 жыл бұрын
@@inter3988 Can’t afford a 3 either. What’s your point?
@EdwardSinclair 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggy0162 This is probably going to come as a complete shock, but many people buy cars they cannot afford. I drive a really nice car that I can't afford, done it for nearly 10 years. But, at what cost and sacrifice? Having written that, it's been cheaper and more convenient during pandemic than using public transport, so I can justify and live with it.
@jonathanmelhuish4530 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely want a Model Y, personally I don't think it looks ugly at all! I'd definitely go for air suspension if they offered it though.
@ayedarts Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get why people fin them ugly! Isn't the Kia EV6 the ugly one?
@AndySnap 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely excellent 'programme', not just a car review, but enjoyable, thoughtful viewing. And the production level was right up there with TV channels. As an overview of Tesla ownership, it seemed spot on (I don't own one nor any EV), pinpointing the essence of the appeal, their unique app to charging ecosystem, even down to in-car entertainment designed to wile away charging times. Other EV cars look better, better built, much cheaper, but only Tesla is the complete package. This is peak (so far...) LBS car video, cue applause...
@ezpoppy55 2 жыл бұрын
That was funny when you were searching for the hazard lights. That is one of the very few physical buttons! Remember: 1) the owners manual is available on the screen; 2) you can use voice command to perform many operations. I’ve just completed a round trip of 1,300 miles in my 2021 Model 3 SR+. I had 5 charging stops each way, averaging ~20 minutes per charge. By simply timing the stops (they were every 90-120 minutes) with bio breaks (food, restroom, stretches…), it worked very well with no inconvenience. I have gone on 1,100 mile, 10-day vacation trips with my family (2 adults, 2 teenage boys), all our gear, including full spare tire and camera gear, in my Model 3. The cabin was kept just for people - all our stuff was either in the trunk or the frunk. Plenty of space, including headroom. Great video.
@Michael19955 2 жыл бұрын
After owning a Corsa E for the last few months I can totally get the appeal of the Tesla charging network and how seamlessly the app works. Something other manufacturers are way off the mark with. Am home charging when at all possible, limited by the lack of fast chargers in the midlands and increasingly finding fast chargers are almost certainly in use when you arrive at them.
@bobcutler 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your review, I've had a Model 3 for just over 2 years now, I went with the white interior and it looks as good today as it did 2 years ago, it's remarkably easy to keep clean and everything comes off effortlessly.
@neilattwood6227 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see a well balanced review having recently watched Jack's 'camping' trip on Fully Charged. I tested a Y when they first came out and was pretty blown away with the whole package if I'm honest. Prior to that, my only other ev experience came in the form of a BMW i3S which I also thought was brilliant. Realistically not looking to buy for 2 or 3 years yet but I love the tech in EVs even though I've always been a petrol head at heart. Hoping that during this time the coding that surfaced a while back regarding air susp becomes a reality along with head up display. Looks are so subjective but I actually like how they look so clean and unfussy. They're clearly form following function and time and time again they smash the efficiency tests on all the reputable channels. Y for me all day long please 👍
@johso87 5 ай бұрын
00:27:30 Jonny tursely says "It's hard not to be impressed", looks away and puts on his sunglasses before returning.. Speaking volumes with well-timed silence, true English 🤣❤ I love the authenticity of this show! Appreciated.
@ianwilson3674 2 жыл бұрын
Great down to earth review which emphasised to me why I ordered a Model Y, Supercharger network, flawless software & app and a practical boot/storage I'm looking forward to a couple of road trips myself
@brooksietyper 2 жыл бұрын
I have a MY on order, coming in May. I went for the Y because when you spec up the EV6, ioniq, id4 etc to a similar level to the MY they’re not that much cheaper. Plus you can get a MY with an 8 week delivery time. All the others are close to a year! Then when you take into account the charging network and the larger boot it becomes a no brainier. Tesla are constantly updating the software so the car and infotainment will get better and be kept up to date. I have a 10 year old bmw and it feels so dated now as the idrive system hasn’t been updated. I also have to agree the styling is pretty awful. It was styled in a wind tunnel to give maximum range.
@darekmistrz4364 2 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen EV6 has worse aerodynamics and battery disappears in Your eyes going over 130km/h. Hyundai Ionic had some coldgate issues and also heating couldn't work while DC charging in winter. Mustang Mach-e in lane assist mode denies to take any turns on highways. Mercedes'es EV have one of highest kwh consumption of them all. Older EVs don't have heat pump, most don't offer front trunk. Tesla does everything right, it ticks all boxes.
@sumkunt0r 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very good point. A year is a long time in software development. If you have to wait a year for delivery It will me more out of date when it arrives than one you wait 8 weeks for.
@ms-jl6dl 2 жыл бұрын
So if a canadian government doesn't approve of you for some reason they can dissable your car "over-the-air" and prevent you from using it? Good.
@matthewjohnson4380 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience the App may say 8weeks but there are major delays and your expected date will be pushed on
@brooksietyper 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewjohnson4380 yes true. I ordered 10th March and is coming on 30th June so in the end 16 weeks. Lockdown in Shanghai the main reason for the delay. I think if you order now it’s more like 6 months.
@adamfry1125 2 жыл бұрын
Ioniq 5 for me please. Great video... Totally agree with you on the Y looks definitely not for me 😳
@RobertsonDCCD 2 жыл бұрын
Got my Model Y 3 months ago, and this is a great review. I guess I am lucky in that I like the styling. I wouldn’t call it sexy, but the lines are clean and timeless. My favorite shape is the rear quarter panel. You didn’t mention much about the all glass roof, but I think it has a huge effect on how you feel inside the car. I would entertain upgrading to an air suspension at some point-I think your critique here is spot on. Another thing I may spend on is a small display to go in front of the steering wheel. I’ve seen some that look nice, but the cost is nearly a grand. Thanks for such a great production!
@1234554321marcus1 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of this youtube channel is amazing. Keep it going man
@antonoat 2 жыл бұрын
Jonny your channel is very rapidly becoming by favourite car based channel, you and Harry Metcalfe are streets ahead, thanks for the review, cheers.
@SimonH69 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla is like Apple. Its very good at creating an ecosystem. If I could afford a 50k'ish EV I'd get a Tesla for the user experience, build quality might not be as good or the driving experience of traditional car makers. Elon has put money into the bits that matter when using an EV - range anxiety and convenience. Also..... GREAT VIDEO 😁😁😁😁😁
@darekmistrz4364 2 жыл бұрын
Build quiality for Made in China models is amazing, and driving experience is pretty good too, I would say suberb if it wasn't so heavy
@doubleclutchonline5811 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned a Model X for 4 1/2 years. Most trouble free car I own... by a long shot. Not totally problem free, but excellent. Just took delivery of a Model Y, which so far has been fantastic. The driving comfort is firm but doesn't crash over road defects like our Audi S4 or BMW.
@dcbel 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! It was nice to see you discover more about this Model Y along your road trip! Thank you for sharing!⚡🔌🚗
@robertjane3162 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! You are at the very top of this game on YT. Thank you for all the work that clearly goes into these, Jonny. For me…..what to do what to do…….£65k top budget, want to get into an EV, 2 young children in a family of 4 plus a dog. Y front or EV6. Driven both. So tough. Help!?
@TimFoster 2 жыл бұрын
8:19 the pylon showing through the sunroof in this shot was particularly poetic. Well done!
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
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@markcornwall8132 2 жыл бұрын
Went for the Ioniq 5 basically because of look and comfy ride and dealer 11 miles away, who are actually really knowledge unlike others. Seriously considered Tesla but it's 185 miles each way to the nearest service centre. If they had one within 50 miles it would have been more tempting. I am open to a Tesla one day but loving the Ioniq 5, which isn't perfect but is very good.
@Ultrarunnerdad 2 жыл бұрын
I went the other way, I was going to get an Ioniq 5, but ended up ordering a Y after test driving all available to me. (EV6 ioniq 5 i4 Enyaq etc etc) I drive 35k miles a year and the supercharger tipped it for me.
@emilenossin5098 2 жыл бұрын
Ioniq 5 is very cool looking, but seriously what service does an EV need? You can change tires anywhere. I went for the Model Y, would love to do trans-European road trips without hassle. And just love the robotaxi potential and other gadget stuff Tesla has. And love the looks.
@AndreasWest 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla will come and fix your car at the workplace or your home or wherever you are (not for bigger repairs but for all the smaller things like some rattling seatbelt. There’s no real need to go for services as a lot of things are software and EV’s have a lot less moving parts and almost no fluids that need to be changed regularly (like ICE cars )
@watcher24601 2 жыл бұрын
@@emilenossin5098 after watching James and Kate working with clevely EV you soon realise that Tesla's need regular brake servicing to stop them fracturing.
@Jim-xz1ew Жыл бұрын
Before we went with the model Y long range a year ago we tried many different EV competitors . In the end we went with what was practical. Some others I liked the looks of but were quirky . And the supercharger network was a big plus. Most of the time we charge at home. Here in my state the petrol is at $5.00 per gallon. So my Range Rover is at $80.00 to top off. The Tesla at home is $4.27 to top off. The price at the supercharger is $7 to$9 per full charge. It's a no brainer. Wife loves the Tesla and I have become to love it from an engineering point of view. At one point we had our eye on the Model S. A friend had purchased the S and so the wife and I went out for a drive. It is insane. I have owned over the years many fast European cars. The Y fits in well between too fast and fast enough. Very nice video. thanks for the ride.
@georgemason1829 2 жыл бұрын
EV6 or Ioniq5 for me, but I don't do loads of long journeys so most charging won't be at public chargers, supercharger or otherwise. And yeah those two look great, the Yfront not so much... And great review, really balanced and honest 👍🏻
@janwergeland5586 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great videos and stories on this channel. Had an i3 for 5 years(2017-2019) , and did get back to a practical diesel car. I now have sold it for a new BEV. I considered most of these models and fell down to a bare bone Skoda Enyaq 80X i will get next month,( asked if I could get it without the screen in the dash..). The Skoda was the car that ticked most off my requirements, 4x4, ok ground clearance, practical, typed for both roof cargo and towing. I do not like one-pedal-driving, so for me it is important that the Enyaq has paddle shift where I can manually decide the regen strength when driving. Like to drive cars, so I also have enthusiast cars with manual stick from the 60&70 in the garage. The Enyaq is more a “station wagon” than a SUV, an Octavia Scout or Volvo V60 CrossCountry BEV had been on my short list, Kia IV6 is has also my interest.
@chazzyb8660 2 жыл бұрын
This is a real review, well done Jonny. If I could afford it I probably would. Then again, I don't do that sort of driving so it would be a bit silly. Perhaps hire one three or four times a year, certainly.
@paulk235 9 ай бұрын
You too are a genius Jonny! Thanks for this amazing review and commentary. For the record, I bought an eGolf in 2018 (still own the vehicle) after watching your video; it was both helpful and funny too. Regarding the Model Y, we recently cancelled our VW ID 4 order (1 1/2 year wait) after a single test drive of a Model Y. It occurred to us that had we not test driven the Model Y, we would not have appreciated that a car could be as innovative and what seems like the future of personal transportation. Personally, my wife and I quite like the front or rear look of the Model Y; we've been VW folks for many years and like the rounder lines of both the older Golfs & Tiguans. I can't wait for our delivery of the Model Y which will ship from Shanghai to Vancouver Canada with the LFM battery. Again, thanks for the many years of your insightful videos. Cheers!
@rjnation5042 2 жыл бұрын
Love the way you just get in & give your reaction to what you find, I have driven a few Tesla's but just couldn't buy one myself, I've ordered my 2nd Porsche Taycan as a wagon & will sell my 1st one when it arrives, great video as always, Rj in Oz
@dushenepaulusha7210 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review! Love the style where you do a road trip with the car, probably the best way to review a car. Looking forward to similar reviews
@clarktjl1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jonny. As always, very objective and well detailed. I am now going to hear your thoughts on the new Lotus on that side of things ;)
@Balance1973 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to spraying the brush before using it, Jonny! Great video!
@richardmatthews6325 2 жыл бұрын
Im not a Tesla fan, but , theres something about the Model Y i like. Like the charging network, and the connectivity. I have heard about build issues on the Model 3, and it surprises me still how sparce the interior is. Jonny, again, brilliant, informative, and you tell it too the viewer in a straight forward way, excellent mate
@Simon-dm8zv 2 жыл бұрын
The Supercharger network is currently opening up for all EVs
@zoomspider6065 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Entirely agree. Love Tesla's tech, philosophy, and charging network, looks and firm ride not so much. A very happy EV6 owner.
@human_brian 2 жыл бұрын
First and foremost, this was a great review, thanks Jonny. Even though the Model Y is seriously ugly, I'd still have it over all the other EVs you listed because it is the best all-round EV that does everything well enough without any major flaws. I really like the looks of the EV6 and the Ioniq 5 a lot more but they each have flaws that put them below the Tesla.
@Art-Sin 2 жыл бұрын
Ugly? I think it's understatedbly gorgeous.
@UnseenSpirit Жыл бұрын
@@Art-Sin the thing with taste in terms of beauty is that we all have our own opinion. Personally I think the Y is ugly. The proportions are all over the place to my eyes. It is probably due to having low drag of course. That being said, I drive a 2009 Prius which is very ugly too.
@-A-lm5xb 11 ай бұрын
Jeeze they must be bad then if they're worse than Tesla with it's ugly looks, awful interior, thin paint and poor build quality.
@aritheory 2 жыл бұрын
I just think TLBS is the best car show out right now. Nothing can touch this quality of analysis and fun.
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@Livehigh15 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Y. Had it nearly a year. Driven it in Europe. Really like the enhanced driver tech - in London City traffic and on motorways. Great sound system & now Apple Music. Also like the simplicity of its external design. ❤
@michaelnuss1926 2 жыл бұрын
Jonny you're a beaut. Great review as always. I'm getting in on the Ioniq 5. One year wait list here in B.C. Like the hvac buttons, range of 300 miles in rwd long range spec, insane charging speeds for road tripping, comfortable suspension and seats also for road tripping. Jonny as a recommendation to you ; if you could please start doing acceleration tests from 50 mph-80 mph it would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to know how quickly you can overtake a slowpoke on a 2 lane road with limited passing space and time. Thnx a million. Keep up the good work.
@NO3V 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch. You are watching the wrong reviewers if you are expecting "insane [ly good?] charging speeds" in a coldish climate area.
@Validole 2 жыл бұрын
@@NO3V Active temperature control can do wonders for that. The Tesla “battery conditioning for supercharging" is essentially raising the temperature of the battery for better charge acceptance. Of course, Tesla can only do that because it knows it's headed for a supercharger...
@Sinnistral 2 жыл бұрын
17:47 - thanks Johnny, I'm never unseeing that... 😂 A bit of an LBS/RCR crossover moment there 😬
@TonyG310 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point RE the heads up display, the need for just a few more tactile buttons/knobs, and the subjective outside design opinion. I've struggled with the same feelings myself.
@andrewclark6711 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video - I have tried all the competition and they all have good points and bad points, but for me the Model Y was the best all rounder by far. The only one that came close was the Skoda Enyaq which surprised me how good it was, but in the end we had to order the Model Y LR and should be getting it in May fingers crossed.
@raydoherty5419 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, the white seats are fine, they clean up really easy. I have a Y and would still only buy one because it’s better for everything (road trips included) than anything else and now I would find it hard to change. The other charging networks can hopefully catch up soon though. I think it looks ok, not ugly but more pretty generic maybe. Looks never bothered me.
@doubleclutchonline5811 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Model X for over four years. Baby wipes remove dye transfer from jeans, and leather cleaner was able to remove a pen mark left by a parking attendant. They look as good as new. Just took delivery of a '22 Model Y with white seats.
@johnmckay1423 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with pretty much everything in the video. I've had a Model 3 for two years and have ordered another one (replacement, not additional!). The Y was £50/month more on the company car lease scheme and while I would've liked the convenience of the hatchback, it's not an issue often enough to justify £600 per year. The boot's pretty big: luggage for four adults going on holiday is fine and I chucked a bale of hay in this morning. It's just a slightly awkward opening. Most reviews say that the suspension in the Y is noticeably harder and more jiggly - presumably to cope with extra height, so I think the 3 will be better most of the time anyway. Things I don't like: the indicator stalk is rubbish - very unpredictable about when it cancels. The satnav is miles worse than Waze or Google maps. No option for "3D view" so where there are multiple exits or lanes splitting it's much more difficult to work out which one to take. It's also less accurate because it doesn't update often enough. There was a 15 mile 2x4 lane dual carriageway built near me and it took 2 years to be included in navigation instructions (made worse because it showed on the screen so the instructions didn't match the map). I went adrift in Leeds yesterday and I'm sure it's due to a road layout change that's not yet in the nav system (very clear instructions to be in the RH lane of two, but didn't go where the satnav expected). Obviously this would be an issue with almost any other car manufacturer as well, but Tesla gets software updates so it feels like a let down. Final one is the auto wipers. They don't turn on when they should and go into monsoon mode when you use the screen wash. It uses the cameras instead of a separate system like every other manufacturer. It's therefore even worse in the dark when there aren't many objects for it to judge against. So after that, why did I order another? Mostly the charging network. Two years ago it was a really easy decision. Now there's a choice of decent cars which is great, but I think Tesla still just about make the best EV - no one is matching their efficiency and the engineering seems less compromised. And again, the charging. I hope I choose something different in 3 years, but Tesla isn't standing still (the current Model 3 is measurably better than mine in ways that you'll notice) and there's a long way for everyone else to go on charging networks.
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Detailed feedback - many thanks
@dereknicol5284 2 жыл бұрын
Agree about the Indicator stalk, glad its not just me.
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
2 years and you need a new one? If I spent that much on a car I'd want it to last a lifetime lol
@presterjohn71 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markcain268, it will be a 2 year lease most likely.
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
@@presterjohn71 oh right, he doesn't actually own the car then? So can't really do any modifications to it
@johnkechagais7096 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very good review, i have watched it 3 times. you really get a sense of the car and it capabilities
@TheCarGuysTV Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this - I really like all the different segments and unpredictable locations
@experimentalcyborg 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have the Y for sure. Supercharger and being on the forefront of full self driving. Even though the latter has been very controversial you can't deny that tesla's fsd beta's are the closest thing to full self driving on the actual real world consumer market and i'd love to see it happen in real time rather than like now, from the sidelines.
@neillgatley8770 2 жыл бұрын
Jonny, I love the late break show, the reviews, the barn finds, projects of the people. Love the production quality it's clear that you put your heart and soul into TLBS, so what the merry hell was Jonny's bollock cam all about? That's no way to test a connect app OTSOT! They will never let you in the Bitter owners club now.
@markgaudie80 2 жыл бұрын
There should have been a warning ⚠️ before the bollock cam. I’m so glad we didn’t hear the splash of his turd. 🤮
@koitorob 2 жыл бұрын
Bitter? I haven't seen one of those since the last century! Are there any left?
@sumkunt0r 2 жыл бұрын
He's just pointing out that even when you are on the shitter you can open the car, seems like a win to me. I wouldn't curtail my dump to open the car for anyone even if it was -20c outside and the person trying to gain entry was suffering hypothermia.
@sumkunt0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@markgaudie80 If I were the sound guy I would have added a plop plop spludunch to the soundtrack 😉
@Allride_ 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that manual handbrake out of machined aluminum you had them install before your road trip. I would definitely go for that option when ordering a Model Y too 😉
@brucebaer1208 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an honest review about the good, the bad, and the ugly. People should have their eyes open and do "due diligence" when making a large long term purchase like this. The super chargers are the key and don't fool yourself that they are essential to enjoying road trips in your electric car.
@J500ANT 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the EV6, I prefer to have a few buttons for stuff, plus Android Auto is an essential for me. Also, poverty spec EV6 is £41k, huge amount cheaper with longer warranty.
@111midman 2 жыл бұрын
poverty spec...lol
@zacstarkey1369 2 жыл бұрын
Someone’s a Tory
@Smellindamix 2 жыл бұрын
I really think you made a mistake. It's not huge cheaper for no reason
@J500ANT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smellindamix European car of the Year 2022 for a reason.
@dalemoore11 2 жыл бұрын
@@J500ANT because they pay for the award lol
@slimbarry6438 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, great episode! Could you also cover efficiency of EVs and not just range?
@ChaimLoecher 2 жыл бұрын
32 kwh/100miles - that was Johnny's average. That's roughly 3 miles / kwh
@2maxcrook 2 жыл бұрын
Ours is on order. After watching this it can’t come sooner!Great video.
@lenimbery7038 2 жыл бұрын
Well I used to agree with you about needing a hud in the car but now that I've owned my Y for a year I don't miss hud nor a front speedo....the center display is just fine once you get used to it. I'm also lucky in that I really like the distinctive exterior styling so you can understand why I'm a total fan!
@welfiblablabla 2 жыл бұрын
27:43 I've been in that exact situation and finally went with the Model Y. My second choice was the EV6
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
You made the right choice… Report back on your thoughts.
@welfiblablabla 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 I've had it for about 6 weeks now and I absolutely love it. The tech (infotainment and phone app) are unrivaled, the drivetrain is perfect in it's power delivery, recup. with 1-pedal driving, it's efficiency. More space than I could dream of. Great sound system (this one I didn't expect) and seat comfort. Since I share the car with my wife who's a lot smaller the driving profiles are so convenient! Only used Superchargers twice on the same trip, but that was a pleasant and easy experience. Only the suspension could be a bit more comfortable and I hate the Autopilot chimes (even im Joe Mode too freuqent and too loud; I don't need a chime everytime I knowingly activate or disengage AP). And maybe looks, love the back, the front is a bit catfishy.
@michaelainsworth5357 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a model Y today. My wife preferred the ionic but for me that was very plasticky inside. I agree the model Y isn't great looking but the interior is. And interior quality although criticised for me is better than its rivals. It's also the bit I get to look at whilst driving. Others have improved but it's performance is still one of the best. Plus the buying process is straight forward and real term costs Inc putting through a business make it cheaper for me than my previous £34k leased golf GTD doing 15k miles a year.
@darekmistrz4364 2 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen EV6 has worse aerodynamics and battery disappears in Your eyes going over 130km/h. Hyundai Ionic had some coldgate issues and also heating couldn't work while DC charging in winter. Mustang Mach-e in lane assist mode denies to take any turns on highways. Mercedes'es EV have one of highest kwh consumption of them all. Older EVs don't have heat pump, most don't offer front trunk. Tesla does everything right, it ticks all boxes.
@neverleftthe80s29 Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. One thing electricity is a shitload more expensive now at the end of 2022 than when this video was shot. So much to like about the Model Y, I just wish that they put the steering wheel dash screen from the Model S on the Model 3 and the Model Y.
@duckielu9168 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable review. UK Model Y owner here and everything you said about it is bang on. I too never thought any of the Tesla models looked nice. I bought it for everything else other than it’s looks and overall a great car.
@kevhippo 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Jonny. Had our Y for nearly five weeks. Love it and think it looks ok, especially the rear. Re the price comparison, the Tesla comes very highly specced and if you specced up competitors similarly the prices wouldn’t be far apart and you’d still be lacking the tech and charging network.
@CrankCyclingChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Is the ride really as hard as everyone claims?
@David-bl1bt 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrankCyclingChannel I'm in my 3rd EV now, all have had a "firm" ride, particularly uncomfortable at times for the passenger. The bigger the battery, the heavier the car, the harder the suspension to support that weight. The Y has a bigger battery and being taller than the 3 has more weight and body roll to supress, so harder suspension necessary which compromises the ride quality. If/when adjustable air suspension is an option the Y would be far better.
@tomsullivan8534 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Model Y for all the positive things you said. I also happen to think it looks great! So a win win for me!
@I_dont_want_an_at 2 жыл бұрын
this guy doesn't like the model 3? the model 3 is one of the least offensive looking vehicles on the road. it's easy on the eye
@ptodd1306 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more car reviewers who were great at the tech. It’s all about the tech. Good review 👍🏻
@simongibbs3936 2 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks Johnny. As a model S owner I would love to be chosen on looks as the best of a bad bunch! I do agree though and along with its air suspension still make it my favourite.
@derekhastings8481 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have had the model 3 for over 2 years and I agree with the points you have made. I like the ID4 and Mach E, but the charging network is the winner. I loathe the lack of physical controls for heating and even wiper blades. It definitely needs a heads up display. I would have taken the Y if it had been available. Let’s see what’s available when I change in 2 years. The options are only getting better!
@MrKenenglish1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review but something to bear in mind there are similar BEVs for sale at cheaper prices but once you start adding panoramic roof, heat pump and equivalent extras to match the Tesla the price generally increases past the Tesla price point (been there done that) Here's something that will show the difference between the younger generation and the present car owning generation, I bought a model three and the kids on the street love it but when I mentioned to them I was going to change the standard wheels for alloys they said "why are you going to fit old mans wheels to a modern car?" I'm obviously an old man but it shows the difference between the generations 🤣
@Olibolio1 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve had all sorts of quite interesting cars over the years but the Tesla is the only one that my kids and their friends have shown any enthusiasm for other than my Eunos.
@jasonphillips3865 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could ever afford an EV but what a fantastic and interesting review.
@JonathanPorterfield 2 жыл бұрын
I went for the e niro over the M3 ,as i find the 3 too low for getting in and out of it , but the Y front looks taller. Thanks Jonny again for a great EV review 👍 👏 , next road trip , go a little more north , to somewhere like , oh i dunno ......Orkney ? 😉
@TheBondyboy 2 жыл бұрын
Detailing nerds are having heart attacks watching the washing technique 😮
@EUC-lid 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta get that lower sill dirt on the roof somehow.
@glenf4115 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, washing the wheels and then the paint...
@itekani 2 жыл бұрын
I must say I really like the looks of Model 3. The non-grille is just so right on a car with no heritage back to when there was a need to decorate a massive cooler in the front. The lines over the "hip" over the rear wheel look really nice too. The Y looks OK, but the proportions of the 3 is better, plus I don't like the plastic wheelarches.
@kevingreen8581 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jonny. Now I want a model Y but will probably have to wait a while before I can afford one and make do currently with my very comfy 2 year old Toyota Camry Hybrid .
@kempez 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Once again Johnny managed to get things entertaining, factual, funny and’ real’. I really dislike the look of Tesla’s, but the tech and charging are absolutely superb. Got to give it to them. I’d still take a n EV6 though, out of that segment 😁
@fidelcastro9579 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work again Sir. I would love one and completely agree with your views but refuse to pay that much money knowing what the components cost to build one. Disrupters always change the “game” but friends have them and quality is still an issue.
@Olmirz Жыл бұрын
Great video and review - I was worried you might want to 'love to hate it' but you came across very fair minded and the fact that you hated the outside, but liked the inside, software and charging network showed you weren't biased in the review! Cheers!
@kantameena9668 2 жыл бұрын
nice work.....enjoyed watching Tesla long road trip
@citedcanvas85 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla has definitely sped things up over the years when it comes to ev technology. Its a race now for the other manufacturers to try to catch up and its lovely to see it unfold on a monthly basis it feels sometimes
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
They wont ever catch up. Buy Tesla stock.
@morri03 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxflight777 hilarious
@esaedvik 2 жыл бұрын
3:20 Also brilliant thing about the process of plotting a course on EVs is that some cars will pre-heat the battery for the charge to optimize it for the charge. Coldgating is a terrible curse up here in the Nordics. Just noticed Nissan is putting a MANUAL pre-heating button on its new EV, which is so cool compared to just completely forgetting people in cold climates or forcing people to use (those who know about it) pre-heating via plotting a course. Another issue is that not all cars have all third-party chargers on their on-board computer...
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
Do they make any EVs that don't have a computer? They never seem to work properly for me so I'd sooner drive a car that doesn't need a computer
@esaedvik 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markcain268 That would be kind though a difficult combo, unless it's made of like power drills.
@Markcain268 2 жыл бұрын
@@esaedvik my ebike doesn't have a computer, maybe has basic logic circuits in the controller but otherwise it's delightfully computer free😀
@Validole 2 жыл бұрын
@@Markcain268 Don't know of any that don't, even the 2013 Nissan Leaf had one. But from reviews, the general consensus seems to be that only Tesla has one that actually works well, mostly due to having control of their own charger infrastructure. The rest have many issues with chargers being in use/broken/having no info on charging speed/routing stupid by having you charge at an AC charger for 8 hr in the middle of a road trip, when a DC charger with 30 minutes is 5 miles away. Essentially, at least for a while, the computers were there, but their usefulness was lacking, with people resorting to third party smartphone apps and web services for better routing. Don't know, if the newer EV platforms from legacy manufacturers have actually solved that. Then again, my country doesn't have any Superchargers...
@Validole 2 жыл бұрын
@@esaedvik haha.. you know he meant the user-facing, infotainment one, not the ECUs.
@Berenvacht 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice review. I don't think it's ugly, nor is it beautiful. It's a design that is still good in ten years, I think. And that is the point. Would love to have on for my family with three kids.
@bjornart Жыл бұрын
I really like the British humour - especially from the toilet seat. It reminds me of David Brent in The Office :)
@chicofrostie 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent review Jonny, thank you! With the hike in fuel prices, I’ve now taken to doing any motorway driving at 60mph rather than 70 and the savings are significant (2018 1.2l Pug 308). I keep looking at the Golf GTE (circa 2016) as a replacement though. Financially, decent range full EVs aren’t in my league as I prefer to own my cars outright.
@Will-el4xc 2 жыл бұрын
I test drove a Model Y this weekend and at low speeds there is a huge issue with ‘body boom’. With no parcel shelf and huge glass roof the road noise/bumps create a sealed echo chamber that was pretty unbearable. Better at motorway speed but horrible at slow speed.
@cathyk9197 2 жыл бұрын
Got a Model Y at Christmas and plan to buy an aftermarket rolling cover for the back. There are also low cost aftermarket add-ons to reduce road noise...which I won't buy, as I undoubtedly crank its excellent music system!
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t beat a Scottish roadtrip. Lovely film Jonny. And it is a film, I have an S, I don't want a Y but I still watched this because it's just a great watch. Reminds me I need a home visit!! You're so right about the whole Tesla "thing": Drove to Berlin last Autumn from the Midlands by just entering an address and booking the chunnel. That was it, the car did everything else including charging enough to make decent pace for the unlimited Autobahn sections. So easy. Not many other cars and certainly no EVs I'd have done that in. With regard to Superchargers, they are a great experience but remember that they are opening up to other cars in a few months time. They are already being prepared for this. It won't be all stalls and it won't be all locations but they are opening up and that's a good thing (for EVs) but does tilt the ownership proposition somewhat. I mean you're right about HUD and all the competitors have this and are cheaper too. Plus in a few months you'll have access to a better car (there's no doubt the Tesla is a great EV but is it a great *car*?) and still have access to the Supercharger network too. Tesla are growing like mad and selling cars like crazy (see this week's SMMT figures for that alone) and that's where they're failing to scale: Service and parts supply has hit an all time low. Some service centres eg MK, have simply stopped accepting bookings due to busyness and parts supply, particularly for accident repair parts are becoming months in some cases.... This is starting to affect insurance as accident repair is taking far too long leaving drivers in hire cars.... That affects insurability. There are many things Tesla needs to do to keep growing but improving parts and service as well as Superchargers (which are queuing now in some locations) is very overdue when compared to the rate they're opening production capacity. Styling is bar of soap dull but the software is very, very hard to beat especially, as you surmise quite correctly, when you're used to it. I found a Taycan to be a learner car - for experienced EV drivers. Like the RS GT Audi, they're designed to keep ICE customers feeling familiar but if you've spent 4 or more years in a real EV, they just feel like poor imitations: Great cars but not great EVs.....
@andystafford7073 2 жыл бұрын
Great review... arguably your best IMHO. I've been holding on to replace my ML350 with a suitable EV (something a little smaller) for more than a year now and am still holding back. If the Y had air suspension and head-up display I'd probably have it despite the dreary looks. Think I'll wait a little longer for the Macan EV to appear before deciding which way to go.
@Matt-hb4fo 2 жыл бұрын
Getting the 19” smooths out the ride. You tested what I have, blue with white and added the acceleration boost for fun. Great snow car. Was only £42K for me in the US though😳.
@darekmistrz4364 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine I paid $83k(£63k) for mine in Poland. I live in a country that doesn't matter to anyone, everything here is quite cheap compared to advanced western countries, but for Teslas we pay premium.
@chrism5581 2 жыл бұрын
For me I've put in an order for the Mach-e, the model Y was very practical and the tech was great, but just didn't really do it for me. Different cars for different people 👍
@raymondz595 2 жыл бұрын
We all know why you ordered the Mache-e brav ;) its because of that "horse" on the hood. Mach-e cant even compare otherwise. I mean seriously, it shouldn't even be in the same conversation, really.
@Luckyjo21 2 жыл бұрын
if you can afford a 50k car why do you care about mpg
@seanz6586 2 жыл бұрын
Get what you want. Hopefully it works out for you.
@nb9361 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, however, would be interesting to know how long in total you spent charging up the batteries.
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. So useful
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Welcome aboard TLBS!
@rustywishbone 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Jonny. You are doing a great job. I would buy the Model Y over its competitors. I agree with you that Teslas look pretty awful - a generic jelly mould car shape - but interestingly, my kids love the shape. Go figure.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
For the same money you can buy the benz suv as well. Much rather have that
@ChaimLoecher 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 but it's not the same money because with every drive you save as you go... £30-40 per tank and £500/yr maintainance. You would need to buy a cheaper petrol car to match the more expensive EV... so maybe a RAV4 or a Tiguan.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaimLoecher what? Mercedes makes ev's too...
@ChaimLoecher 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 great- buying EV is the solution 👍I am glad we agree...but, @400k NOR ModelY has 25% more range 25% more power 25% more interior/storage room 125% more tech 125% more superchargers... but this is your preference. I respect your EV choice. But Johnny chose the modelY for a road trip for a reason ;)
@marks-0-0 2 жыл бұрын
I think the model Y is the best looking Tesla. When it comes to choosing an EV as Jonny said, I'm happy with the range and spec of cars in this class but i want that spec in an MPV or vehicle like the ID Buzz.
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
Just avoid the 19 inch wheels with the plastic wheel covers !
@murrieteacher 2 жыл бұрын
what a great video Jonny. I want the Y just for the charging network. Even here in Australia they are starting to install them.
@Leekyization Жыл бұрын
Well I chose the Mercedes EQB, which was a grave mistake. The original notion being that I wanted a more traditional car (like a dashboard in front of you) and not the spaceship futuristic style of the Tesla. After multiple trips to the dealers for coolant leaks and three times refusing to start and being completely unusable, I test drive the model Y and ultimately then ordered one. By the end of April I will be waving goodbye to my Nov 2022 registered EQB 350 having done approx 7500 miles and collecting my new Model Y LR. It just does so many things better. My experience driving and charging the Y was definitely the deciding factor.
@kenallen3254 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have many of the other available EV’s for styling, but as a day to day car that works in the real world it would have to be the Tesla. No question. I wonder how practical the Supercharger network will be once it’s opened up for other EV users?!
@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын
"styling"? Normally frivolous "chrome"? Maybe "vents"? Depends how they open the network. What they SHOULD do is open say 25%, with the proviso that they can add (planning permission) a similar number. Result? "Others" would get a useful increase in *reliable* charging. Tesla owners would get many more *V3* chargers. No complaints......
@dougzirkle5951 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, I find the looks of most Teslas ever so slightly repulsive. However, in the same measure, I find them wonderfully sublime. I’ve never heard what the inspiration for the design stemmed from, but I’d like to believe it involved a great deal of understatement. Because once inside, you can’t help but to become captivated. The tech, layout, and yet again the understated total of it all. Yes’m my pick out of the group you mentioned would definitely be Tesla, especially the “Y”.
@maxflight777 2 жыл бұрын
Doug, I beg you… go and drive one ? Have a listen to the sound system. Peek at the spacious rear seats and speak to a colleague or friend that owns one. It’s expensive …BUT ; (i) a 320D cooking version is 40K (ii) factor in warranty/ fuel and servicing and it’s , over 8 years the cheapest and safest car you can put your family in. Keep us updated if you buy one !
@zambacan 2 жыл бұрын
No dash is a deal breaker.
@geekarch_pc.id_ 2 жыл бұрын
I do like the exterior and the wheels, lets put a poll for the other viewers to see what they all think?
@mondotv4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@zambacan There is fairly inexpensive add ons for a binnacle display that work well and look factory.
@cooleyballs1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zambacan lol.. Like we care what you don't like.. 😂
@brentweaver3092 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Y here in America. If you need just one car, need to tow, need a lot of storage and range there is not a better car. I love it. She's a sentient being.
@samharvey6194 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly am not a huge electric car fan but this is definitely what I'd have if really needed, the range, the usability, charging etc is so much better then the others. Looks wise I think it's a committee designed car not by one person, it has to appeal to alot of people in a lot of different areas. It's neither boring nor exciting, it ain't gorgeous or ugly it ain't outlandish or subtle. That has surprised me though all that driving no anxiety range and all for 90 quid, definitely can see the benefits tbh
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