We've all been there, I'd say 9.9/10 he usually is 🤣

Thank you

Try the rotary method in sticky paint, I dare you. Both tools have their place.

I have wet sanded fresh clear coat with 3000 grit and have never been able to bring up the gloss with a da like I can with a rotary. Is this typical?

Yes

Excellent

Nick here… I just one stepped with rotary and gold standard polish/waffle pad…then coated with our ceramic coating. It looks awesome:)

Thank you

Thank you!

otary thinking of going down this route do you cut with Da or rotary

@@broncoupe I'm still testing but I tried cutting with the DA and finishing out with the rotary with excellent results.

@tedrarrick165 personally, I've been cutting and finishing with a rotary all my life (basically 30yrs detailing professionally and on the side) and imo you get much better results. in the end, the paint seems to look a lot deeper and glossier when using a rotary. sure I do things differently though since I clay bar the whole vehicle as I wash it. after I use Meguires heavy compound with a white wool pad, then switch out to Meguires Glaze with a different white wool pad then use a hand glaze. once I do all that I do a ceramic coating and paint (especially black) looks really deep and glossy. even with all the new tech out I'm still doing things old school but in my defense detailing is basically a hobby for past 10yrs so haven't kept up on all the new products but definitely want to try out this DIY Gold Standard Polish. Imo though, nothing will ever beat using a rotary for buffing.

@@richardsalinetrojr1957 Sounds like you are a pro with the rotary! So far, have just used a polish pad and a finishing pad with a polish and an AIO with great results. Don't have the pad or experience yet to cut with it. Been using the pad washer between each pass. really like the simplicity and smoothness of rotary at 600 rpm

Great point, but even Nick could see the difference ( he wasn’t acting).

@@diydetailofficial hahahaha! I believe it. I've seen it on my test panels too. Never bothered to buy a gloss meter though 😊👍

Thank you!

Awesome! Have fun

You can do it!

Me too. Total beginner here. Great video.

Thank you for watching it!!

Sounds like serendipity! lol

Good luck!

Congratulations. It's the luxury sedan of the rotary polishers. It can also mow gel coat all day alongside much bigger noisier machines.

Please let us know how you like it.

Excellent way of describing it David

@David Ruggles thanks, David! Glad to hear it. Looking forward to it!😁

@@davidruggles996What would you refer to the Milwaukee rotary as 🤔

It’s on the list

It’s on the list

Good to know!

Glad to hear it!

Glad to hear it!

Glad to hear it!

That is awesome!

I have a really old and heavy 2 speed Ingersoll rand. Still works but damn it's heavy.

The pad and polish definitely make a difference.

Please do! And we have a sale this weekend as well:)

I wasn’t able to get the polish to come out of the sprayer for the longest time, are there any tricks I could use to get it to go through the tube quicker?

If Yvan wants to cut, he will use a dual action machine with wool but always likes to finish with the rotary and a foam pad 👍

Correct

Thank you

The lightest one that will do the job.

Keep it flat.

Glad you liked it

Excellent! Yes it’s much more relaxing.

Yes you can use a smaller backing plate, but most areas can be done with a 6 inch pad.

This is from Lake Country Manufacturing.

With a 6 inch backing plate you can use our pads.

Yvan’s favourite is the flex PE 14

Yvan’s favourite is the flex PE 14.

@@diydetailofficial is Yvan switched to milwaukee cordless rotary fully yet or he still prefers the flex pe 14 corded ?

The flex for its superior ergonomics.

Please let us know how it goes in our facebook group bit.ly/DIYDetailFacebookGroup

we love that yellow backing plate, it's from Lake Country Manufacturing, a 6-inch rotary backing plate

We have new towels on the way.

Hopefully this answered it for you

No need to tape off trim, in fact, with our yellow gold waffle pad, we like to polish the trim using the Gold Standard polish 👍

Thanks

A few possibilities, dry pad, flat pad, too much pressure, too high speed, too much product on the pad.

@@diydetailofficialThank you! Will keep these things in mind.

No pressure at all. It’s on our to do list

The lowest speed possible

Correct

400-800 rpm maximum, a grinder is too fast.

Only hold the front of the machine with one finger.

The slowest it will go

Yes, a comparably priced rotary will Be quieter than a DA.

@@diydetailofficial many thanks!

The tool is chosen in function of what you want to accomplish. If it’s for light polishing and jeweling then a rotary with our red pad is excellent. If you want to remove defects then a 21mm with our Wool pad is best.

Thank you for the response. I'm buying some of your pads today and need to decide on what size. What size backing plates / pads are used in this video and is this what you suggest in general?@@diydetailofficial

@@itsjustme77 the size of the pad is determined by the tool for a DA. For a rotary I prefer a 6 inch pad and backing plate.

Not with all pads.

Correct

Thank you

Yes The Gold Standard Polishing System can do both with different pads. Even though The Gold Standard Polish contains no fillers or waxes, it’s always best practice to use a panel prep.

Yes, at the lowest speed.

@@diydetailofficial so I just received my Milwauke variable speed polisher but it has a 7 inch backing plate. I can’t seem to find any pads for it? Did you guys change out backing plate? Would like to get some pads to cut and paint correct and polish my black raven soft paint on my car

It takes practice to use both machines. Be careful to not put any pressure on your machine, and avoid using pads with a flat face.

Yes it will give micro marring, but less than a long throw DA.

@@diydetailofficialwill the forced rotation ‘correct’ more than a rotary due to it’s additional throw? I’m just wondering if i was going to have one machine that can correct/finish/and be time efficient - would the be the forced rotation or the rotary.

A wool pad will leave swirls for sure. That’s why we recommend cutting with our wool pad on a DA, it leaves a better surface. If the black pad you’re using isn’t a waffle, you will have problems finishing swirl free.

@@diydetailofficial appreciate the answer.👍 Will check out your polishing pads

Thanks you, I use 6 inch primarily.

Yvan likes 4-800 rpm

Slightly better than flat, but waffle pads are superior

On a rotary 5.5 to 6 inch

5 inch.

I prefer the Flex corded, at 400rpm

Thank you

Lake county manufacturing

One or the other can do the job. The rotary takes a little more practice and patience, but the results will be rewarding. Also on the rotary you can use different sized backing plates to use different sized pads.

@@diydetailofficial can I paint correct with your wool and then waffle pads and finish with the Jeweling pad with just the 15mm Milwaukee DA?

Definitely a workhorse.

No need, stay at the lowest speed.

@@diydetailofficial everyone has their own view of rpm... Some stay at the lower end with very slow arms' movement, others like to stay at 1000/1200 rpm with fast arms' speed. I guess everyone has their own way of working the rotary, still I agree that it gives the best finish... Although the 21mm has more cut it's not so agile in very tight spaces like the rotary with the pad inclined

That’s a Milwaukee cordless, The Flex PE14-2 is universally regarded as the best in the industry, the Maxshine is a good budget friendly alternative.

@@diydetailofficial I appreciate it. Will be looking to get one so I can get back to paint correction.

You can and live with the consequences if you try.

Bonjour!

We will be making more videos on this subject.

The machine isn’t important, what is important is how you use it.

Great question! The rotary jeweling pad on a rotary does great as a second step after compounding with wool on a DA

6 inches

Start with a scrap panel to test.

Try a DIY Detail Tree Sap Remover. If not, DIY Detail Gold Standard Polish on a MF Towel.

Excellent

Thank you.

Very unfortunate

Great

5.5 or 6.5 inch. It’s personal preference, and what size backing plate you use.

Yes.

@@diydetailofficial using a flat pad will not be the same as using the waffle?

Very different

So you guys only have the fine cut waffle pad …. Would that be the same as the Rupes yellow fine cute waffle pad And have you tried an enhancement yet with coarser heavy cut waffle with finishing polish to increase cut but still leaves good finish without halograms ?

Yes, it’s good.

Make sure not to get the XCE unless you want forced rotation, the XFE is the cordless dual action polisher (I think this is correct lol but double check)

21mm for cutting/compounding for sure

@@diydetailofficial can the 21 mm be used for finish as well , or use the rotary for that ?

Dual action to cut, rotary to finish :)

@@diydetailofficial thank you

Thank you for the questions

A random orbital sander works very well. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdqBipWCm9zIno0.htmlsi=gD6RvInJVns2h4AQ

DA to cut, Rotary to finish.

@@diydetailofficial meant to say 1 step sorry

@@diydetailofficial Almost impossible to get a hologram free correction only using the rotary though. Not many pros use it anymore and I think just for that reason alone. I think you have to be highly skilled in the rotary to get it done without holograms.

Yvan trained a 12 year old to finish with a rotary today.

With a random you will get great results as well, only side by side can an experienced eye see the difference.

Don’t have it in front of me but it’s the cordless Milwaukee rotary polisher, try a quick Google search 👍

Speed 1 on rotary to polish/finish. We cut with a 21mm DA

The rotary has never died for a reason.

What pad and polish are you using?

@@diydetailofficial I’m using a white waffled pad and m’quires ultimate compound.

Good to know!

Best to use The Gold Standard Polishing System lightly first.

@@diydetailofficial I'll use GS Polish. Is the jewel pad strong enough by itself to remove ceramic coating or would I have to try all 3 and see

The gold pad

Yes

The lowest it will go

Yes, it is the Milwaukee rotary.

I have one, nice light machine with an 8mm throw.

@@diydetailofficial Hey thanks for the repsonse! I'm definitely new to this game and love your videos. Im attempting to locate the best reliable cordless polisher. Lot on the market. What are you top 3?

Good idea

Glad it was helpful!

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Sounds like your using a flat pad.

@@diydetailofficial yes,is the secret a waffle pad then?

You need to center the pad, biggest mistake I see novice rotary polishers make, not having the pad centered. Once you get it centered the tool becomes easy to use.