My wife and I just picked up Mazdas and didn't have Toyota on our review list, largely because I've lost faith in Toyota.

The last Tacoma was also made in Mexico

​​@@ravensfootball52Some Tacos , not all. Now, ALL are true Mexican food.

Nissan quietly meeting needs of disappointing Taco with the Frontier.

@@jeanclaude7018 most tacos were built there before they became all built there, the issue is with the Alabama built motors in Tundras is it not?

And they reassemble with parts that were exposed to oil circulating with metal bits. Can't get much worse.

Men today aren’t used to disassembling engines like men of yesterday. Good luck 🍀

@@Jm8126-5 I have only rebuilt single cylinder lawn equipment engines so very limited experience. But wouldn't the men of yesterday mostly be building iron block push rod engines, I imagine these dual injection, twin turbo, vvt engines are much more complicated

They dumped it because they got a heads up.

To those who have them seize AFTER the warranty period, it's DEVASTATING considering this repair is estimated at 25 to 30 thousand dollars. You can buy an ENTIRE base Nissan Frontier truck for that price .

@@jeanclaude7018 knowing Toyota, they're probably going to give extended warranties for those years of trucks.

Hundred thousand mile warranty sounds good

@@hexhead5732 Nissan Titan already has that 100k warranty, on a 413 hp V8 with a good reputation. Yet folks gamble on the Toyota and its mythical invincibility...

Toyotas a robbing scamming assclown company weve given too much resepct and credit for quality that isnt there be honest. Its a foreign company that values our money but hates our values

I believe it. The problems are probably more than Toyota is letting on. They should replace the engines. Doing an engine rebuild at the dealership is NO WAY the same as it being done new at the factory. If I had a broken Tundra because of these problems I’d file a lawsuit and demand my money back.

Is it really garbage or a manufacturing error? The engineering and design is fine, but there is a manufacturing process issue since the engine is built in two different plants.

This is not something with engine manufacturering. When GM first came out with the 3800 they had the same issue but with sand from the casting process. We had engines come back that had a significant amount of sand remaining. Strangely the engines ran fine but with accelerated wear long term.

I talked to my brother, he said not to believe your brother.

Simps for Toyota. All about that Adsense revenue

Toyota copied American manufacturers. Make junk now

nothing new with TFL, just follow the $$$

@@cessealbeach Same as TRD Jon The line of Simps is long

My friend's has a leaky door frame that sounds like the window is cracked open. The software is also buggy.

My buddy bought a 23 last year fancy trim hybrid tundra for like 80k. 😂 we had to wrap electrical tape on the tailgate bushing to stop its rattle. He agrees my 21 is much better built

That's the thing few are talking about. The new Tundra has had a huge number of other issues entirely unrelated to the engine (and other drivetrain issues). Interior pieces cracking and falling off, door leaks, sunroof leaks, Tesla like panel gaps, rusted tailgates, broken power seats. These are all common issues I see on the forums. These things are built like an 80's AMC.

yeah but once they fix all that, and the the loose windows ,and then replace the inevitable rusted frames in a few years, they will be good to go! And then the Toyota folk can make fun of Fords :)

Wow, sounds like it makes GM look reliable.

It's the carriage.

Nope it’s machining in the US and A! These engines are also in the LC and Lexus in Japan, Asia and Australia! If that was the case would see them everywhere! Not the case! USA is the real joke and Toyota needs to leave the U.S.! Their manufacturing process does not align with doing trash production like ford! What a shame!

​@mjfamgo6563 it's just the inability of the machine operators not following work instructions during the post-machining deburr process. KIA also has the same problem at their Alabama engine plant. The Toyota way didn't forsee DEI.

@@PineBeltAdventures DEI is destroying everything from video games, airplanes, military

Won’t be the first time

@@JohnDoe-wy2py They do seem to be shilling hard for Toyota.

Yup. Can't give up them perks Toyota throws them.... pathetic!

They sure aren't putting Toyota down like they would Nissan.

@@puffnstuff12 Seem? They're straight up (or flat on their backs) whores.

My oldest son bought a 24 limited crew cab 4x4 a few months ago and I hope that this doesn't happen to him.

I have 61k on my 2022

Buy a gen 2 tundra!!! They are awesome!!!

@@mannyespinosa1960 Still too early to tell.

What did he get?

I'm betting you are right. The inevitable downside to higher compression and turbos. It's simply more stress on every component.

How?

@@mad-meh2719 the bridge bearing, there are video on it -- videos from even Toyota fan boys. This looks to be a design issue not debris.

@abc55052, i would agree with you. Stating "material was left in the engine during machining process"... seems to be the current excuse. Even if it is machining debris, we must still ask ourselves, HOW can this be. They must not care about quality control with their vehicles. This is weird considering they have a REALLY good reputation. I could see maching debris in several hundred units.... not 100K. yikes!!

@@thechiefenginer My Pentastar enginer from Jeep for 2012 had a recall on it for casting debris left behind in the engine. It was from the sand blasting process. Tons of those engines had sand in them which made a mess.

It is debris.

TFL is calling it fake news.

All of them are

There is a guy who has fixed an ls with the same issue at about 20k miles he says that ls is still running and no issues, i think he replaced the shortblock so probably the debris cleaning wasn't done properly around the shortblock cause this engine has a lot of torque and added pressure from debris can cause an overload on the bearings

@Ali-M2 if it was truly caused by debris it would have main bearings and rod bearings going out. Not just front main bearings making this not true.

@@fl_atv_riders4455 Yeah it is pretty suspicious. Plus they are just replacing the short block. If it was debris there should be more damage throughout.

@@Ali-M2 there is no debris copernicus !!! it is a bad design

@@Ali-M2 I'm pretty sure there were owners with multiple engine replacements

You exactly right! Adding a hybrid system to the same engine with problems.

they bought a 80k paperweight

I'm going to change my 2022 tundra for a 2024 hybrid because Toyota says that those trucks no longer have a recall.

Roman said the dealer he spoke with is buying Tundras with a slight price adjustment. There's no legal definition of slight. Slight is a matter of interpretation.

take my car back to the line and put a new engine in, not some master turd who get pay 1/2 off warranty crap is how the fix should happen...

That would be the real answer and they know the answer would be no. Unlike a Toyota dealer they won't get factor support and have to eat a lot of of the cost. No dealer wants to take that risk.

Yeah - why would I take a Tundra to a Toyota dealer to trade? Trade for what? If I need a full size pickup Toyota doesn’t have a lot of options. And Ford? Why would they take on this headache? Also, the Hybrids were not part of the recall because, even if the engine fails during driving, the hybrid system will provide sufficient power to safely get the truck off the road.

A friend works at a ford dealership and someone was wanting to trade in a new tundra with 2k miles....he was already 20k upside down with what they offered him in trade on a new f150.

They can trade it at a steal Hold on for it a while Toyota will put a new engine in it or perhaps buy it back The schmuck who traded it loses thousands and the dealer perhaps in the end is laughing

Maybe a dealership not taking a Tundra on trade is shortsighted. If you want a loyal customer to switch brands you best act before a solution is found. If Toyota shows that they are willing to do what it takes to take care of its customers why would you then go and switch brands?

My 24 Pro has been awesome.

Assclowns dude you can tell toyota did nothing for a decade and then they did something and dropped the ball

the engine came out 7 years ago and has been on the road for almost 8 years now (LS500) This is a manufacturing issue.

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD The engine may have come out 7 years ago, but I really doubt it is the "same".

I wasn't waiting.

Totally agree. Actually 15 years. 2007-2022. I got tired of waiting for the redesign to replace my 2007 so I bought a 2020. Consider myself lucky. 15 years to wait for an underwhelming truck with numerous quality control issues and design concerns and omissions of things like no tow hooks no 4 auto and now this. Mr Sweers the head engineer should be fired imo.

wow, did you ever have major work like Timing chains sprockets?

2.7 AND 3.5 ECOBOOSTS ARE ROCK SOLID IN THE TRUCKS.....EXTERNAL WATER PUMP.....EXCEPT 2017-2020 HAD CAM PHASER ISSUES...USUALLY NEED REPLACING BETWEEN 80 - 150k MILEAGE....SOME SHOPS DO REPAIR FOR ABOUT $800 TOTAL... DEALER MUCH HIGHER OF COURSE...

Yeah, I've got a 2.7 in my F150 it's been a great engine.

My Ecoboosts in all our F150s are rock solid

@@stevebeard76672.7 is legendary. I have a 3.5 … working well so far

Please SOURCE an anecdote where somone is on their 3rd Tundra V35A-FTS short-block. 😉

Link? Sounds like bs 😅😂

Youre so full of it.. typical internet

Any some Toyota fanboys will never admit that their beloved Toyota messed up. And keep in mind these engine issues are only ONE of the many issues people are talking about with this truck. Stop trying to pledge some allegiance to a company that owes or does nothing for you.

@@MarkA500 Replied already with the link in this thread. It’s an article and talks to the guy who originally posted it on Reddit.

I love Toyota, but these are guys are just being shills for Toyota at this point. They are not losing money, the people are.

@@glow4417 TFL is controlled by Toyota. Remember the ADD failure on the Tacoma.. How Roman was saying it was a 321 out of 390 or something similar in terms of production units.. (and Andre's Trail Boss was actually fresh off the lot and did not have any mechanical failures - not counting the numerous software glitches), and how Toyota readily fixed it for them. Point is, TFL could sue Toyota if they did not repair and it would be bad publicity...but Toyota already has a poor reputation now.

KZfaq video's from major channels don't care about long-term reliability or reliability overall. Because all these channels care about is getting more views and money. New products get them more views, so they hype them up. I don't really blame them honestly, but people need to use their brain and think for themselves. Who cares about the old 4runner being slow and poor MPG? You don't buy an off-road vehicle for it to be fast or for it to get good MPG. I mean sure, its nice to have more power and MPG. But, anyone with a brain will tell you its more about reliability. When your off grid, far from home, you want reliability. You want to be able to mod your 4runner and be able to use it for years to come.

Based on what?

@@jordancook1668 I can see leaving some debris in a few engines. But all of them? Yeah ok I believe that. NOT!

@@jordancook1668 some people are on their 2nd and 3rd engine. If it were just debris they wouldn't keep failing.

Ohh that's rite,you work for Toyota,thanks for the heads up🤦🏻

@@liperonus Anytime!

A bridge? In Brooklyn, huh? Sounds great, tell me more....

How do the chips get generated from the failing bearings?

Thank democrats

EPA? Strange - Toyota uses these same gas engines in Land Cruisers and LXs sold world wide. Who knew the EPA had such sway. Emissions and efficiency standards are driven by governments worldwide and have, for gas engines, converged into a very similar, if not exactly the same, set of regulations. But, sure, blame the EPA if that fits your life narrative.

They made the switch by choice. Everyone except Toyota and Ram decided to keep their V8's.

@@Sir.VicsMasher Ram dropped their v8s with the exception being the 3/4 ton and up trucks

Dealers are not taking them back with an open recall.

If the manufacturer refuses to buy back who will you sell it back to? Lmao.

who gives a shit? 3UR-FE will last a lot longer than the 3.4L twin turbo

@@theglowcloud2215missed the point there my boy

According to fanboys that engine was always perfect.

It's just fashionable to hate on new technology. EV? Suck. Turbos? Suck. Everything that is not 25 litres making the same power as a 12 litre engine drinking twice the fuel sucks. Nothing is perfect. Everything, including Toyotas have always had problems. Of course now with social media you get to hear about all of them, but it's not like no N/A engine from Toyota made in the last 35 years has ever failed

@@adequatejtm7371 no, his comment was just whataboutism. "b-b-b-but what about the V8?!" okay, just accept the 3.4L is a disaster and we can move on.

It has to be since it's the same engine built in the same plants on the same machinery. If they don't then it shows their blaming metal shavings is a lie and they used inferior bearings just like the weak metal on the four wheel drive that broke on tfl while on a patch of ice. Toyota could be cutting corners and now it's coming back to bite them.

Agreed. Possibly beyond that.

A short block is not a fix.

I bought a Toyota lemon that was frequently in the shop for weeks... I haven't bought a Toyota since but I would. They took very good care of me at the time and I never talk bad about them even though my vehicle was a dog.

Yes that was early Lexus. They were all basically handmade in Japan and they were trying to gain a toehold in the luxury car market. Even early Lexus had very few defects. How they handle this remains to be seen, but it has huge implications as Toyota moves to smaller, hybrid, turbo power plants across their model range. Let’s hope it’s the exception and not the rule.

🤔He does know toyota makes lexus, right?

That is what called the honeymoon period. Of course they want to treat new buyers of the brand. Also, the 80's and 90'a is when Toyota made good cars, since the mid 2000s onwards, not so much.

They rolled out the red carpet during early Lexus days, but those days are over.

It's insanity that Toyota switched away from 5w-30 in their vehicles. I'm sure the EPA nazis had something to do with that too.

Something’s moving. Dissimilar materials between block, crank journals, something.

Factory oil specs have been suspect ever since CAFE numbers came on the scene. In 2002, Ford changed the motor oil spec for their engines despite the fact that no mechanical changes to the engines were made. My 2004 Mach1 takes 5w-20 even though the same engine in the 2001 Mustang Cobra took 5w-30. Same for the regular Mustang GT V8s. I met an ex-Ford engineer who worked on the '03-'04 Mach 1 engine program and he confirmed that the change to thinner oils across the board saved Ford a few million dollars in CAFE fines. Ford was OK with lighter weight oil as long as the engines got through the warranty period. He strongly suggested running nothing lighter than a 30 weight in my Mach 1. I asked about a 5w-40. "Even better."

Ain't That the Truth !

Yep. Their channel lives and dies by access to press cars / press events. Can’t rock the boat.

Every part that can have a problem will becausenits designed to fall apart even before the warrentee is up or they wouldnt be having so many problems on brand new ones

While manufacturing in Mexico. Screwing people in every way possible

Yes sir

But redeisgn it first. The Titan was fugly.

Don’t touch the VK56.

No, they're going to put the new V6 from the QX80 in there. Not worth it, IMO.

@@damilolaakanni Nissan will end production of the Titan full-size pickup truck after the 2024 model year. Production is scheduled to stop in the summer of 2024 at Nissan's Canton, Mississippi plant, which will then be used to manufacture two new electric vehicles. Nissan's Ambition 2030 plan is to transition its lineup to fully electric vehicles.

lol, ever hear of 3yr/36k ? and oem extended 10yr/125k ??

@@Sam-dq7ws what’s your point?

@@coryrood hybrid owners are NOT hung out to dry as you stated

@@Sam-dq7ws yes they are, they are left with a vehicle with a widely known defect, that isn't being resolved. Try telling everyone that lost thousands in resale value they have a warranty.

@@coryrood lol I have one and not worried in the least.

So is my 2001 yukon with 325k

Yea that thing won’t die on you. Wish the rear end wasebt a 4.30 lol otherwise I would have one.

Most 2015 cars are running no problem if properly maintained…

My wife's 2010 Sequoia is closing in on 200k, still sounds and runs amazing. Hard pass on the turbos.

​​ Not with that milage. The AFM lifters on GM products are the same as the twin turbo BS.

Today I drove down an auto strip here in my city. All lots are full. Not much is moving. Good it’s about time. Prices are nuts on ALL trucks. Now of course it isnt any better with Toyota. Lot decay is coming 🤷🏻

@@ramrider1453 I've got a 2019 RAM Larame, and really want the new RHO, but I'm going to wait a year to see how reliable that engine really is.

@@alexwhitley5195 Yes I agree fully. Back in the day those straight sixes were bullet proof. But with new tech and possible small design changes. I would wait also. I love my Hemi but it wouldn’t veer away from the hurricane at all. But I do hate turbos though. Don’t like the expense of that repair.

Exactly. They went woke instead.

@@robertyoung8289🙄

I agree. It’s not like the tooling wasn’t paid for, or they don’t have experience installing multiple engines on the same assembly line.

Emissions regs (thanks CARB and EPA) forced them

@@robertyoung8289 not Toyota, US government

For sure

Yeah because he is not a corporate shill looking for invites to events

Because the 2JZ was way way overbuilt and over-engineered. The turbos were strictly for performance and not to compensate for the lack of displacement. Toyota isn't what they use to be. 90's-00's was peak era for automotive engineering and reliability. Now it's strictly about profits.

Same for my 24 but chicken little's gonna cry wolf regardless.

Well it's not affected every Tundra. Glad yours is not giving you issues.

​@@Sam-dq7wsCan't deny the fact it's still a major problem for Toyota.

@@Blue-moon12 For sure just like the sudden excel a decade ago but was same non issue basically just over hype

No issues at all with my '24 hybrid limited. Not even the infamous door seal issues. But I guess time will tell. If it goes out, it's a major inconvenience yeah, but not the end of the world. It all depends on how Toyota handles it. That's gonna be what saves their reputation.

EPA will make that difficult.

Glad I got one but in a sequoia

@@gpaje Ford has one?? wtf/

The fuel economy was horrible. I was seriously looking at one before covid to replace my 01, but the fuel economy sucked.

@@volvo09It’s a full-size truck…..gas millage should not be your concern.

Bingo ! better chance of blowing a tire.

Reputation they still hold even recently be rated most reliable and dependable in jdp and cr. Yes they make mistakes and the 3UR first few years had many issues as well but you see how that developed now ‘last gen tundras are indestructible!’ They didn’t come out the gate indestructible

@@chibbyylol every brand is over 100 problems per 100 vehicles, I’m not saying it’s just Toyota, but they are not the bastion of reliability they once were. According to JD power they are middle of the pack for the brands below the industry average. Lexus is #1 with genesis #2 and Kia #3, Toyota and Hyundai are right next to each other and neither is in the top 5.

Most reliable years for the Tundra are 2005 and 2006.

@@dvandkq you know that’s 2 diff generations right? I agree because the 4.7 is superior to the 5.7, it’s give and take though. 05 was the best year of the first gen 06 is the only year the 4.7 was the only v8 option IIRC. 05 still had ball joint issues, 06 was a tougher front end design.

@@spcneary I'm the original owner of my '05. Bulletproof. No LBJ issues.

Their AC boxes are already leaking on the driver's side floorboard. The entire dash has to come out to even get at it. That's the next one to drop.

Throwing rods out of it's new 2.5 turbo! !

@@barrya.6212 none so far

A class action suit will remedy this. It might be cheaper for Toyota to just buy back the lemons. Regarding resale, the damage is done.

They finally stopped trying to avoid reporting it after three months.

Yes stagger the Hybrid models. Also stagger the 2024"s into the mix.

My thoughts exactly. Take 10 trucks in prototype and run them day and night until 150K. 8 of them towing 24/7. What are the results? Sounds like faulty design and supplier issues.

Is that the guy who's fatter than Roman?

They had to due to emissions compliance. Don’t fault Toyota for having to comply with regs, blame the regs

@@kaseyc5078 what about Ford and GM?

@@kaseyc5078 So you are telling me a “twin turbo” V-6 has better EPA emissions than?

Plus midsize trucks today are more powerful than the 5.7 lol

@@beexiong2995 True, however, I'm not convinced that they will last as long yet.

If you look at the data it's only the very early 2024 ones that came off the line with engines produces before the date Toyota called out in the recall. This is why Toyota is not recalling all 2024 and likely won't. They will issue a separate recall notice based on VINs to those 2024's that are effected.

So it's also affecting 2024....​@@jimbov23

I was in the same boat and had my name on an over trail in transit. I’m gonna sit this out for a while.

Well Toyota couldn’t make the wheels stay on their ev. Plus the cablegate corrosion on the rav4 hybrid / prime

Your 'feelings' won't influence my next car purchase. I'll wait.

Toyota only "owns" mistakes after they get sued or ppl get killed like they have in the past with the on going truck frame corrosion, gas pedal ecm issue that killed people and they lied to congress, oil sludge issues in the early 2000s that destroyed engines.

I can’t agree about owning mistakes because of the oil burning problem with the 2AZ. But they will make sure this never happens again. The revised engine will be bulletproof.

@@americanadreaming I would hope the thoughts of a random commenter on KZfaq wouldn’t 😂

If my engine had metal particles in the oil I'd expect a new short block to fail. Anywhere that oil circulated might have metal bits and should be replaced, IMO.

There's absolutely NO sources claiming somone is on their 3rd Tundra short-block. None.

​@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD And there are absolutely NO sources claiming the replacement V35A corporate Toyota paid to have installed in 2022 & 2023 Tundras will have traditional levels of Toyota crankshaft main bearing durability; i.e,. 500,000 - 1,000,000 miles of durability. Likewise there are NO sources claiming the 2024 model year V35A engines currently in the GX550, LX600, 2024 Tundras and 2024 Sequoia's for sale at dealerships around the USA and world will have traditional levels of Toyota crankshaft main bearing durability.

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADthis guy won’t believe anything negative about Toyota ever. He tires to sell you on them like they offer him a check every month to spout their praises. If you have so much faith in them go sell your GX and buy a new Tundra. Let’s see what excuses pop up when it turns out to be trash.

​@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Toyota fan girls are the worst...