I would've loved if my brothers at LineageJourney would have emphasized all that what you just said brother ML Verlus! ...I'm sad... We need to study and understand indeed why that 1888 Message is called the "most precious message"..!! May God help us: by these Commandments of God AND the Faith of Jesus! (Rev14:12) ...truly understand the faith and the need of Jesus Christ and the blood of His Cross ..to be in connection with the Law Of Commandments. They are 'not' to be separated one from the other.

Streams of Light __ Charles Placide Amen 🙏🏾

"The time of test is just upon us, for the loud cry of the third angel has already begun in the revelation of the righteousness of Christ, the sin-pardoning Redeemer. This is the beginning of the light of the angel whose glory shall fill the whole earth." RH November 22, 1892, par. 7 " Hence the movement symbolized by the angel coming down from Heaven, lightening the earth with his glory, and crying mightily with a strong voice, announcing the sins of Babylon. In connection with his message the call is heard, "Come out of her, my people." As these warnings join the third angel's message, it swells to a loud cry." 4SP 422.1 "I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven, descending to the earth, and again ascending to heaven, preparing for the fulfillment of some important event. Then I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to the earth, to unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message. Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel's message. Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound everywhere, "Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." This message seemed to be an addition to the third message, joining it as the midnight cry joined the second angel's message in 1844." EW 277.1 - EW 277.2 "Several have written to me, inquiring if the message of justification by faith is the third angel's message, and I have answered, "It is the third angel's message in verity." The prophet declares, "And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory." Brightness, glory, and power are to be connected with the third angel's message, and conviction will follow wherever it is preached in demonstration of the Spirit. How will any of our brethren know when this light shall come to the people of God? As yet, we certainly have not seen the light that answers to this description. God has light for his people, and all who will accept it will see the sinfulness of remaining in a lukewarm condition; they will heed the counsel of the True Witness when he says, "Be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." The Church is presented as standing in a self-satisfied, pleased, proud, independent position, ignorant of her destitution and wretchedness. By her attitude she says, "I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing." How many who claim to be keeping the commandments of God are in this position today! The charge against the Church is, "Thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot." But while many may be satisfied with their lukewarm condition, the Lord is far from pleased, and declares that unless you are zealous and repent, he will spue you out of his mouth. But he warns you, he entreats you. He says, "Thou knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye-salve, that thou mayest see." RH April 1, 1890, par. 8 - RH April 1, 1890, par. 9 In these passages we can see that the Loud cry began at the 1888 GC in Minneapolis, but it had been rejected. Also we can see what messages is included in the Loud cry. It is the message from Rev.18:2-5 and the 3rd angel's message. The 3rd angel's message contains the message of Christ's righteousness or justification by faith. If the church accepted the message that they had the poisonous wine, and that they are in Laodicean state they would humble themselves and then they could receive the Christ's righteousness and the Loud cry would be proclaimed and the Latter rain would be poured out.

And the 3rd Angel's Message is a Series of "Messages".!!

"God be merciful to us, a sinner..."?

The Bible says 1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.

That could be very true about inheriting an argumentative spirit; and only Very few SDAs really understand that 1888 message! And now there's hardly any time left to understand it.!!

You have not understood the message at all. The message was not how to discuss. It could not be a most precious message if it would be limited to such a trivial thing like how to discuss. Such a teaching was known earlier.

Noah NTG One of the coldest shoots to date. 🥶

@@LineageJourney comes with living in minnesota😂😂

Hi! Actually, Gal 3:24 was talking about BOTH laws. See quote from EG White from Bible Commentary, volume 6, pg 1109, para 9: "Which Law Is the Schoolmaster?-I am asked concerning the law in Galatians. What law is the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ? I answer: Both the ceremonial and the moral code of ten commandments."

Really now did Joseph even keep the Sabbath so the fact of the law written on the Joseph's heart excluded the Sabbath but do not commit adultery . Same today Sabbath is part of the law ritual not required.

@@danieloostendorp9286 That's an interesting claim. How is the Sabbath ritualistic? Would you work 7 days a week if the Sabbath were really taken away? consider what the Sabbath memorializes, which is the six days of creation followed by a day of rest, this is what Israel were to remember, and they already knew the commandment in Exodus 16 and did not keep it, which means they knew about it before God spoke the commandments from Sinai in Exodus 20 Consider also where the Sabbath is written, on the same stone tablets as the other nine commandments, because they are a unit, which James confirms when he says that if one is transgressed, then the law is transgressed as a unit (James 2:9-11) and Jesus Himself says in Matthew 5:18-20 "whoever breaks the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. If your righeousness does not exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the pharisees you will in no way enter the kingdom of heaven" Now, being more righteous than the pharisees does not mean being more pedanti about the tradition of the elders, no, it means that our righteousness comes from the Lord our Righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6) because we are the trees of HIS planting, therefore trees of righteousness (Isaiah 61;3b) and our righteousness is from Him (Isaiah 54:17, yes, the same verse as "no weapon formed against you shall prosper") Casting the Sabbath aside makes less sense the more we understand GRACE in the OLD Testament

Was the 1888 message something to do with the fourth angel in Revelations 18?

@@stan1818 The Fourth Angel was the message which "lightened the whole earth with his glory" and E.G White accurately identified this prophecy with the 1888 and the latter rain...

WHAT IS IMPORTANT, IS THAT SDA MEMBERS (AS A WHOLE) OUGHT TO STUDY THEIR BIBLES, AND NOT THE POSITIONS MEN HAVE LAID DOWN FOR THEM TO THINK OR BELIEVE (AS THEY THOUGHT). I TOO HAVE READ WHAT SISTER WHITE CONCLUDED CONCERNING GALATIANS 3, BUT NOT ON ITS ENTIRETY. THE ONE MAIN POINT MADE, WAS THAT WHEN PAUL WROTE THAT "THE LAW WAS OUR SCHOOLMASTER TO LEAD US TO CHRIST" SHE SAID, "ESPECIALLY THE MORAL LAW" LEADS US TO CHRIST. HOWEVER THERE ARE VARIOUS CONTEXTUAL MEANINGS PAUL RELATED SOLELY TO THE MATTER OF THE "WORKS OF THE LAW" FOR JUSTIFICATION. SURELY ONE WILL CONCLUDE THAT, "THE LAW WAS ADDED BECAUSE OF TRANSGRESSIONS" (GAL 3:19) WOULD APPLY TO THE PROVISIONARY TEMPORAL ORDINANCES CONTAINED IN TORAH, WHICH PAUL SPAKE OF AS, DIVINE ORDINANCES" OF THE WORLDLY SANCTUARY (HEBREWS 9:1) UNDER THE OLD COVENANT. IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A BIBLE TEACHER, THE MAINLINE CHURCHES ARE ALTOGETHER CONVINCED THAT ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN TORAH ARE ABOLISHED, NAILED TO THE CROSS, PASSED AWAY, WHEREAS THOSE OF THE NEO MESSIANIC GROUPS, SAY NONE OF TORAH HAS PASSED AWAY, SINCE THEY HAVE TAUGHT THEMSELVES TO CONTINUE IN SOME FORM OF FEAST OBSERVANCE, AND YES, BELIEVE IN A THIRD TEMPLE AS WELL. THEY TOO ARE BLINDED. PAUL'S LETTERS (ROMANS, GALATIANS, EPHESIANS, COLOSSIANS, AND HEBREWS) MUST BE STUDIED ALONGSIDE ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT ALL THE LANGUAGE, PHRASES, WORDS, ARE ALSO RIGHTLY DIVIDED WHEN COMPARED WITH THE ORIGINAL SOURCE, BEING TORAH ITSELF. IT IS TRULY A FRUSTRATING TASK THESE DAYS TO TRY AND ASSIST IN OPENING HEARTS AND MINDS TO "PRESENT TRUTH, WHEN HEARTS AND MINDS ARE CLOSED TO READING TORAH AS WELL. SOME THINGS PAUL SAID, LIKE "UNDER THE LAW" IS CONSTANTLY USED TO SAY ALL THINGS IN TORAH IS, "THE LAW OF MOSES" AND THUS OLD COVENANT, THEN ONTO THE TRASH HEAP IT GOES. WOULD BE NICE IF MORE CHRISTIANS AND YES, SDA CHRISTIANS WERE DEEPER INTO THE WORD OF GOD. MORE GODLY, DISCERNING MEN AND WOMEN ARE NEEDED IN THE FIELD, BUT FEW ARE EITHER EQUIPPED OR WILLING. BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF MANY KNOW THIS AS WELL, BUT SISTER WHITE ENCOURAGED IN HER WRITINGS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATUTES AND JUDGMENTS SHOULD BE STUDIED BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD OUR GOD AS WELL. I ALWAYS TEACH THAT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE ORDINANCES OF THE TEMPLE, WHICH INCLUDE THE ETIRETY OF THE TABERNACLE, THE PRIESTHOOD, THE FEAST DAYS, AND OF COURSE THE SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM AND OTHER IMPORTANT PARTICULARS, THE REST OF TORAH IS WORTHY TO STUDY AND IN MOST CASES CAN BE APPLIED IN OUR CHRISTIAN WALK. ONE EXCEPTION IS CIRCUMCISION, WITHOUT WHICH A STRANGER COULD NOT BE JOINED TO THE LORD AND KEEP THE FEASTS. WELL, THAT IS ALSO AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS. OF COURSE SOME THINGS LIKE BUILDING A BATTLEMENT (BORDER) AROUND THE FLAT ROOF OF YOUR HOME WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BY ROMANS 13 (MODERN CIVIL ENGINERING LAW), AS WELL AS LAW ENFFORCMENT ITSELF. I AM SURE YOU KNOW ALL THE EXCUSES AND ACCUSATIONS THROWN OUT TO DIMINISH THE TRUTH. "SO YOU WANT TO PUT ME BACK UNDER THOSE 613 LAWS?" OR "SO DO YOU SDA'S STONE YOUR CHURCH BRETHREN WHEN THEY PICK UP STICKS ON SABBATH? LOL!" TO BE HONEST, I DID NOT COME TO MY CONCLUSSIONS OF WHAT I TEACH FROM S.O.P OR READING THE 27 FUNDAMENTALS, BUT BY STUDYING AND KNOWING FOR MYSELF, AND THAT IS WHAT I TEACH. I HAVE BEEN CORRECTED ON SOME THINGS BY SOP, BUT NOT ABOUT THESE MATTERS OF LAW, GRACE, FAITH, ETC. ME AND SOME OTHER SDA BRETHREN DO SOME LABOR ON A FREE INTERNET BASED AUDIO/VIDEO/CHAT ENGINE CALLED "PALTALK". I WISH MULTITUTUDES OF SDA MEMBERS AND THEIR OUTREACH MINISTRIES WOULD SEE THE BENEFIT OF USING THIS TO REACH PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. IT IS SO EASY. ANY HOW, IT IS NEARLY 1AM HERE IN OHIO, AND I NEED TO GET TO BED. THANK YOU AND BLESS YOU PATRICK JONES FOR YOUR COMMENT.

@@timarnett672 "ADDED because of transgression" is really better translated as emphasized, instead of the word "added"... because the law was already in existence since creation, that much is made clear in the bible... But it was Emphasized to Israel by God at Mt. Sinai because the people had lost their knowledge of God and His law during the years of Egyptian servitude, which was correctly understood by their fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob....

​@@undrielgrenger53 YOU ARE RIGHT, MAN (ADAM->MAN) HAS ALWAYS HAD A KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAW BEFORE THEY WERE CONVICTED OF SIN. THE LORD IS JUST AND GIVES US A KNOWLEDGE OF HIMSELF, NOT ONLY IN THE COMMANDMENTS, STATUTES AND LAWS, BUT ALSO HIS DIVINE CHARACTER, AND IN MESSIAH JESUS WE ARE PART OF THE NEW COVENANT, HAVING HIS LAW WRITTEN IN OUR HEARTS.. SAD REALITY IS MANY MODERN RELIGIOINISTS SAY THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, (I SAY) NOR AM I, BUT WHY TRANSGRESS YE THE LAW? SEEMINGLY, A SMALLER SECT STILL GOES RIGHT ON WALKING ACCORDING TO THE MINDSET, PAUL REMONSTRATED, "I AM OF". ARE YOU OF PAUL OR APOLLOS? NOWADAYS ONE IS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST, NOT THE LAW OF GOD (THE TEN COMMANDMENTS) IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, WRITTEN TO THE JEWS ETC., (AS IF MESSIAH JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE DIVIDED? ) ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB/ISRAEL HAD A TORAH ETCHED IN THEIR MINDS. THESE BEDOWINS HAD NO T.V OR INTERNET, SO THEY LIFTED UP THE LORD COLLECTIVELY, AT THE MOUTH OF ABRAHAM. EVERY PLACE HIS FOOT DID REST, HE BUILT AN ALTAR UNTO THE UNSEEN GOD WHO HAD SPOKEN TO HIM, AS A MAN TALKETH TO A FRIEND. Genesis 18:18 “Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?” Genesis 18:19 “For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.” Genesis 26:4 “And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;” Genesis 26:5 “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.” THROUGH ABRAHAM, THE SEED OF WOULD COME, NOT ONLY OF ISAAC, BUT THE TRUE SON OF PROMISE, MESSIAH JESUS. James 2:23 “And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.” YES LORD. ABRAHAM REJOICED TO SEE MESSIAH'S DAY, BUT WOULD HE REJOICE AT THE CURRENT STATE OF THE BODY CALLED AFTER CHRIST? YEAH ABRAHAM, FATHER OF THE FAITHFUL. GENESIS 22: 2 AND 12, JOHN 3:16 NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, HE SENT US HIS SON, AND GAVE HIM AS A GIFT. INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO OUR HUMAN HEARTS AND MINDS, THE LOVE OF GOD FOR US ALL, MADE CLEAR THAT HE WOULD BY NO MEANS CLEAR THE GUILTY, YET JESUS KNEW NO SIN. HE WAS MADE SIN BECAUSE HE BORE OUR AWAY UPON HIMSELF. THE DEEP RICHES OF GOD. SIN, BEING THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW, OUGHT MAKE SIN ALL THE MORE HORRIBLE TO ALL HIS CHILDREN. SINCE IT CAUSED THE SON OF GOD GREAT HUMILIATION AND BEARING OUR INIQUITIES, WE SHOULD KNOW IN WHAT WE ERR. WE HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN FOR SOMETHING, BUT WHAT IS OUR SIN? IS OUR REPENTANCE TRUE IS WE WERE RAISED WITHOUT THE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF GOD? WE MAY SURELY READ FOR OURSELVES, ALL THAT THE LORD HAS SPOKEN, STUDY. MAY IT BE SO.

@@undrielgrenger53 wrong

@@danieloostendorp9286 Nope, its all in the bible... so according to that logic, the bible is wrong since we know very well that God doesn't contradict Himself

hi there, yes - that was the argument put forward at the time by Jones and Waggoner. They both saw the law in Galatians 3 as being the moral law rather than the traditional held view that it was the ceremonial law

@@LineageJourney Can you please read www.gospel-herald.com/two_books_on_galatians.htm

@@AxelDomingues thanks - typo! - corrected above

@@LineageJourney welcome beloved

A. T. Jones, Advent Review, July 25, 1899 - "Several letters have been received asking what Law is the subject of consideration in the book of Galatians. The answer is, Not any law at all. It is the gospel that is the subject, and the whole subject, under consideration in the book of Galatians." The issue of Galatians is the false gospel (righteousness by law or works) as opposed to the true gospel (righteousness by faith, or the power of God). By taking an incorrect view of the law in Galatians, Adventists opened themselves up to a false gospel. Waggoner and Jones removed the false prop, and thus the false gospel many had been leaning on, was exposed. Hence, the conflict.

It is true. Look for the general conference bulletin of 1893, AT Jones sermon n. 10 or 11. He is asking the congregation about that and they respond saying “four years ago” and “Minneapolis” as an answer for when did the loud cry began...

Is this Ati??? Hey mamon Wilson said he has the documentation they were excommunicated and died in Christ! Modern Day Caleb and Joshua!

The law is the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ hoping and hoping that May the Almighty God will give us grace to save us through faith in Christ our savior. Let us not pretend that we are save but only God knows whom He gave mercy and grace to the elect. My only hope that may God have mercy on me to consider me.🙏

You are correct....Ellen White herself said that if they left the church, it would be due to the behavior of the brotheran in leadership positions....

See Manuscripts and Memories of Minneapolis p. 260 and EGW 1888 Materials, p. 1005

You seem to be a non Adventist with mis- information! The Review and Herold burned with the Sanitariam ?? I don't think so! Why was the first S.D.A. a tabernacle?? Didn't know it burned down in 1922??! An X Àdventist!

Ron Duffield's book "The Return of the Latter Rain" totally repudiates what you stated.....The Message was rejected, and God's messengers were treated with spite and disrepute....on the law and Galations, E. G White didn't know what position to take at first... and God showed her that both Butler and Waggoner were not fully accurate on the law in Galations... But it wasn't until further revelation from God, that she clarified that the law in Galations was speaking of Both the ceremonial and moral law, but "especially, the Moral law"...thus, she mostly agreed Waggoner and Jones....this is all revealed in Duffield's book, which has a compiled collection of all E.G. White's statements on the matter and I suggest you study it.... Also, about E.J. Waggoner and Jones, Ellen White warned that they might one day leave the church, but she ALSO clarified that it would be due to the MISTREATMENT done to them by the church leadership. Please study before you make such bold claims about God's messengers....

I wonder why he said they apostasized, does leaving the church equals apostasy? This are great men who walked out of a building but not out of the faith.

Waggoner later rejoined the church. See the book "What happened to AT Jones and EJ Waggoner" page 10, para 6: "In 1906 Elder Waggoner, after his wife had divorced him because of his attentions to a nurse with whom he had become acquainted in England, married the lady. This, of course, terminated his connection with the church. A few years later we find him at the Battle Creek Sanitarium working in medical and religious lines. There is no record that he ever opposed the church. On May 28, 1916, at the age of 61 years, he died at his home of a heart attack after a full day of activity. Word of his death was given to the church in a back-page note in the The Review and Herald, June 29, 1916."

The same book I mentioned above, chapter 7 para 7, reads: "Subsequent to working with Dr. Kellogg, A. T. Jones entered upon the publication of The American Sentinel of Religious Liberty, a monthly journal which he issued over a period of several years. In November, 1915, he moved to Washington, D.C., and devoted his time to publishing this paper. He began to attend The People’s Church, a colored Seventh-day Adventist church that had broken away from the conference and was pastored by F. H. Seeney. On the invitation of the officers of this church, A. T. Jones participated in the work of the church and then joined the group. He was granted membership on April 15, 1916." So Jones didn't actually leave the church.

No

Allie no meaning behind it. It’s just a feature / tourist attraction In Minneapolis.

@@LineageJourney it looks as good as me 😁👍🤣🤣🤣👌

I thought it was a kellogs corn flakes thing

It's Froom's and Knight's opinion echoed through the decades. Neither of them apostised from any sound doctrine.

The Adventist church is the most anti-slavery church, you can find...thinks...E.G. White covered that subject extensively, even when slavery was ongoing at the time...

Kenan - we must serve a horrible God who would send two horrible men to cause trouble in the church...?

As long as men are stiffnecked, self-centered, and without the teachable humble Spirit of Christ, there will always be division, strife, contention and eventually apostasy. Let us humble ourselves at the feet of Jesus.

TODAYS CHURCHES ARE A DISSATOR! Nothing but a tax exempt religious business, protected by the government!

Waggoner died at his typewriter as he wrote an extensive letter denouncing his beliefs in the Adventist doctrines. He stated he hadn't believed the doctrines for over 25 years.

@@holdthewinds Is there some sort of historical reference that you have for this...proving this? [Update]: And I also missed one thing you said!! Which is telling me even the moreso you have the wrong man! See: E.J. Waggoner died in the year "1916" .....but "you said" he did not believe in Christ for the 25years before his death..... this would mean, "you" are telling me that he did not believe in Jesus from the years 1891-1916 entirely??? Some of the greatest sermons ever preached on the Gospel and the Covenants were preached by him in the 1890s! So your statement is false. E.J. Waggoner would eventually later on apostasize...but, in a few years later.. he would come back to the SDA Church.

Streams of Light __ Charles Placide I pray and hope so he returned and stayed in the truth. His Work is amazing

@@holdthewinds- You should be a bit more specific. In the unpublished "Confession" that was found on his desk when he died, he stated two things that he realized "twenty five years ago": 1. That God's way of saving men had never changed, all through the earth's history. This is correct. 2. That his understanding of sin as "not an entity but a condition that can exist only in a person" made him think that the whole sanctuary teaching (involving 1844, etc) was impossible. In this he was wrong. It seems unlikely that he drew the second conclusion "twenty five years ago" when we have writings from him dated as late as 1899 to 1901 (and possibly later), which defend the sanctuary and priesthood in heaven and the 1844 date. So at least 15 years before he died, he was still teaching the truth on those matters. The purpose of the sanctuary in heaven, the investigative judgment, the nature of sin and how it is dealt with, are indeed deep subjects, and to see them in a gospel light requires illumination from God. There are many who hold these doctrines in a legal way, just as the Jews held circumcision and the temple in Jesus' day. That is not "saving" truth. There are others, even leaders and teachers in the SDA church today, who essentially discard or nullify the sanctuary in heaven and investigative judgment, yet are still considered members and not "apostates"! What Waggoner taught and wrote, from the mid-1880's to the early 1900's is sound gospel truth. It is only in the light of some of the understanding given to him, that the sanctuary teaching starts to really shine and take it's important place. It's unfortunate that Waggoner started to lose the connection between the gospel and the sanctuary, but when we consider how few in his day really understood it, how much opposition he faced (he couldn't even get his books published in America), and how much dead, dry, legal teaching was present in the Church (and opposed to the message God had given him), we can have a bit more sympathy for the weakness he fell into in this area, in his last years.

@@dennishofer2163 Woah, Dennis, you are picking up a lot of different stuff from here and there. I fully believe in the Sanctuary message, as it is based on Daniel, Hebrews, and the book of Revelation. It involves the work of getting rid of sin, and therefore is part of the Gospel. Waggoner and Jones made more clear what sin is (that it is a power, not just actions). See my article: www.practicaprophetica.com/what-is-the-1888-message/ We must be extremely careful about who we accept as messengers from God. They need to bear the divine credentials, and it is up to us to test them. Gospel Order demands it, or we will end up like the other churches who just listen to whoever tickles their fancy.