The 24th, Buffalo Soldiers, and the Houston Mutiny of 1917 | Based on a True Story

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The Cynical Historian

The Cynical Historian

10 ай бұрын

24th is about the 1917 Houston mutiny. It’s an incredibly difficult topic to cover, and it was released at an incredibly awkward time - yet I think they really managed to nail it. Buffalo Soldiers were black troops in the US Army. There are other definitions, but here I am referring to four specific units - the 9th and 10th Cavalry, as well as the 24th and 25th Infantry who all formed in 1866 and would serve until after WWII when the Army desegregated. For the most part, they had white officers, though there’s a few exceptions. I’m researching the Battle of Ambos Nogales, which 10th cavalrymen were participants, who were partially there because of what happened in Houston. As such, the topics are incredibly linked, and in a way the movie doesn’t touch. So let’s talk about the bigger picture of Buffalo Soldiers along the border during WWI.
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Bibliography
Gerald Horne, Black and Brown: African Americans and the Mexican Revolution, 1910-1920 (New York: New York University Press, 2005). amzn.to/3aJmJOI
Paul LaRue, “Black Soldiers and Revolution: The Houston Riot of 1917,” Black History Bulletin 84, no. 1 (January 2022): 22-29.
James N. Leiker, Racial Border: Black Soldiers Along the Rio Grande (College Station: Texas A&M University Press, 2002). amzn.to/3tqp8o3
William G. Miller, The Twenty-Fourth Infantry: Past and Present, (Fort Collins, Colo.: The Old Army Press, 1923).
Jaime Salazar and Geoffrey Corn, Mutiny of Rage: The 1917 Camp Logan Riots and Buffalo Soldiers in Houston (Guilford, Conn.: Prometheus Books, 2021). amzn.to/3xjntC4
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Wiki: The 24th is an American historical drama film co-written and directed by Kevin Willmott. The film stars Trai Byers, Bashir Salahuddin, Aja Naomi King, Mo McRae, Tosin Morohunfola, Mykelti Williamson, and Thomas Haden Church. It tells the true story of the Houston riot of 1917
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@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian Click "read more" for related videos and bibliography, but first a correction: *Errata* 3:50 - The 13th Cav was in Columbus that night, not Buffalo Soldiers (thx Scott Scotty) here are some related videos: Jim Crow lecture: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7ipdbeJy8fefac.html Race riots: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqeSnqaGmtSmmIE.html *Bibliography* Gerald Horne, _Black and Brown: African Americans and the Mexican Revolution, 1910-1920_ (New York: New York University Press, 2005). amzn.to/3aJmJOI Paul LaRue, “Black Soldiers and Revolution: The Houston Riot of 1917,” _Black History Bulletin_ 84, no. 1 (January 2022): 22-29. James N. Leiker, _Racial Border: Black Soldiers Along the Rio Grande_ (College Station: Texas A&M University Press, 2002). amzn.to/3tqp8o3 William G. Miller, _The Twenty-Fourth Infantry: Past and Present,_ (Fort Collins, Colo.: The Old Army Press, 1923). Jaime Salazar and Geoffrey Corn, _Mutiny of Rage: The 1917 Camp Logan Riots and Buffalo Soldiers in Houston_ (Guilford, Conn.: Prometheus Books, 2021). amzn.to/3xjntC4
@gordonhaire9206
@gordonhaire9206 10 ай бұрын
II'm 80 years old, and have lived most of my life in the Houston-Galveston area. I pride myself in knowledge of local history. I never heard of this incident. Thank you for the information.
@ren17x50
@ren17x50 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see age doesn't prevent learning. I'll be doing the same at 80 hopefully
@aniankh
@aniankh 7 ай бұрын
Well I’m much younger and travel from Georgia to visit and document the Historical marker there in Houston.
@crypto_que
@crypto_que 10 ай бұрын
Our Frat Brother Brigadier General Charles Young was a Second Lieutenant in The 25th Infantry Division. After serving his country with honor for most of his life, he died fighting the enemy, malaria & white supremacy. Despite his meritorious career, the US Army REFUSED to promote him to Brigadier General, a century later the black community ensured he was posthumously promoted to the rank of General. We are honored to call him Brother & carry on tradition.
@drnobody418
@drnobody418 10 ай бұрын
This is nuts! I've lived in Houston for a decade & never heard about the 24th Buffalo Soldiers nor the movie. Thank you for bringing this to light.
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma 10 ай бұрын
History is massive, and there is still a strong contingent that prefers black history be suppressed. It's very understandable that you haven't heard of this before.
@SEAZNDragon
@SEAZNDragon 10 ай бұрын
I grew up and still live in Houston. It does get mentioned but in context of local military or civil rights history.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 9 ай бұрын
Just like people living in Oklahoma had at best heard vague mentions of the Tulsa Race riots and usually didn't know anything about that white on black crime. Just like a thousand other incidents were never taught or remembered. Seems maybe the US can need a few more lessons on black history after all, critical or at least honest. Cause just refusing to talk about it, does not make the events undone and all well.
@titanoboa7165
@titanoboa7165 6 ай бұрын
@@Ugly_German_Truths The Tulsa incident was called a riot, yet it was more like a Pogrom(SP).
@jllucci
@jllucci 21 күн бұрын
@@BradyPostma Camp Logan = Memorial Park
@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy
@VoteBidentoSaveDemocracy 10 ай бұрын
I love it when Cypher brings up historical movies that I've never heard of. Thanks!
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 10 ай бұрын
Same here
@CrownMe13
@CrownMe13 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on your PhD and for covering this subject
@jamesdragonforce
@jamesdragonforce 9 ай бұрын
I second this 👍. Good to see the hard work pay off Cypher, despite KZfaq’s constant bullshit. Been supporting you for years Cypher.
@Schlachthof5
@Schlachthof5 3 ай бұрын
“Black history isn’t a separate history. This is all of our history, this is American history, and we need to understand that. It has such an impact on kids and their values and how they view black people.” -Karyn Parsons
@erikheymann9390
@erikheymann9390 9 ай бұрын
Strongly encourage my fellow Houstonians and anyone visiting Houston to stop in at the Buffalo Soldiers Museum. Camp Logan is now one of the fancier neighborhoods of the city.
@jllucci
@jllucci 21 күн бұрын
Camp Logan is one of the fancier Neighborhoods AND it's Memorial Park
@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 4 ай бұрын
Sad, but I always respect people who are willing to cover the less savory parts of history.
@SunflowerSocialist
@SunflowerSocialist 10 ай бұрын
While obviously beyond the purview of this video, I do think it’s worth noting that while black soldiers didn’t necessarily need to prove themselves to get over to France, they still were shafted by the US in many ways once they got over there. Perhaps the famous example of this is Sgt. Henry Johnson, who fought off a German raid in hand to hand combat, rescuing an other soldier and killing multiple German soldiers, and being wounded about 21 times. France awarded him the Croix de guerre, but he was never given any medals by the US during his life. It wasn’t until the 1990s that he posthumously received the Purple Heart and it wasn’t until 2015 he was finally given the Medal of Honor. Obviously, this isn’t super relevant to the movie, but I just thought it should be mentioned as you did discuss the service of black soldiers in World War I.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@Sforeczka
@Sforeczka Ай бұрын
My stepfather wrote the Buffalo Soldiers. He was William H. Leckie,. The original was published in 1966, and he and my mother, Shirley A. Leckie, published the revised edition in 2003. They also wrote a dual biography of William and Alice Grierson. The time period was the Indian Wars, of course. I am a veteran, too, and have a doctoral degree. I've experienced the collapse of the academic job market, and no longer use PhD or "Dr."" I think you have touched on all this issues. Just found your channel. Thanks.
@SFBayAreaLiving
@SFBayAreaLiving 10 ай бұрын
Best KZfaq history channel. I appreciate that you don’t employ “the good guys vs the bad guys” methodology in sharing history.
@michaelwalker7400
@michaelwalker7400 10 ай бұрын
Gift Chapel on Fort Sam Houston still stands. It's still in basically the same configuration as well, but I believe they wouldn't have been able to get access due to all of the building projects on that area of the post at the time they shot it. There is a Buffalo Soldier reenactment group that came to post to discuss some of the story that's covered in the movie. They did omit the shooting and killing of civilians however. All four units histories continue, however they are not together anymore. After some time, the bodies of those hanged were eventually moved to a private area of the current Fort Sam Houston cemetery. Their location is known, but not promoted. The cavalry units are at Fort Cavazos (formerly Ft. Hood) as part of 7th Cavalry Division. Squadrons are also located at Fort Riley and Hawaii. The 24th are now based at Fort Richardson, Alaska. The 25th was inactivated in 1957. Fort Huachuca , Arizona has a monument to the 9th and 10th Cavalry at the entrance to the post, as well as the oldest remaining black officers club building in the United States Army. As far as the Plan de San Diego, there was a great podcast by Texas Monthly, "White Hats", that goes over the history of the Texas rangers and that includes some of their actions taken during the Plan de San Diego attacks. One of those actions was the Provenir Massacre of 1918.
@thechad4485
@thechad4485 10 ай бұрын
I’d be interested in you covering the Buffalo Soldiers becoming the inspiration for the National Park Service after protecting the Yosemite State Preserve.
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 10 ай бұрын
As someone with keen interest of USA history, this is one the rare events I was unaware, until your video.
@arsenicjones9125
@arsenicjones9125 10 ай бұрын
I hadn’t seen this one and generally avoid history movies till I know more about what they’re supposed to be talking about. Glad to get some insight. I’ll probably check out the movie now
@arctic_shrew_87
@arctic_shrew_87 9 ай бұрын
My first unit in the Army was 1-24 infantry back in 2007 in Fort Wainwright, Alaska. Being a native of Fort Huachuca (the units most uneventful posting), I fell in love with its storied history. This part of its history was unknown to me until I heard about this movie last year.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 9 ай бұрын
Huachuca was very much the opposite of uneventful. Apache Wars and the Border War are far from uneventful
@wafflepoet5437
@wafflepoet5437 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis on an event, and it’s modern interpretation, I’d never heard anything about. Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention.
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex 10 ай бұрын
They have a plaque in Memorial Park. I should go see it.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Memorial Park is where Camp Logan used to be from 1917-1923, the park was founded the following year. Houston made a concerted effort to avoid this part of that history for decades and the plaque is the least they could do
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex 10 ай бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian Big Facts. This video will shed a light on the events that happened and bring awareness and knowledge to do better.
@RichGilpin
@RichGilpin 9 ай бұрын
Saw your preview earlier. Well done and piques my interest to see the movie. I was aware of the Buffalo soldiers since about 1984 when meeting another Vietnam Vet who was in 10th (I think) CAV over there. Read a lot about them but had not known of these events. Thanks for enlightening me. Allons!
@Echo2-2
@Echo2-2 10 ай бұрын
Awesome job covering this movie. I have not heard of it before but now I want to give it a watch
@cassandrayorke583
@cassandrayorke583 10 ай бұрын
This is the first I'm hearing about this movie, and this is a time period close to my heart. Thank you, Cypher!
@urzmontst.george6314
@urzmontst.george6314 3 ай бұрын
your channel is very good and very necessary.
@TensileStrength
@TensileStrength 9 ай бұрын
Another great recommendation by Cypher. I never knew about this event.
@ftargle-bargle6974
@ftargle-bargle6974 10 ай бұрын
I never heard of this movie when it came out, thanks for making this video I'll check it out.
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 10 ай бұрын
Another hidden historical gem to check out
@michaeljebbett160
@michaeljebbett160 10 ай бұрын
In some ways, it doesn't feel like a whole lot has changed in 100+ years.
@Ana-Maria-Sierra
@Ana-Maria-Sierra 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you!
@douglasfels9789
@douglasfels9789 9 ай бұрын
In 1986 my girlfriend and I went to a Houston police station and dropped off some drug paraphernalia we had found (needles, a rubber hose, etc.). While there I saw a plaque on the wall commemorating police fallen in the line of duty and saw 4 names on one day in 1917. That Saturday, we went to the downtown library and dug up microfiche copies of the Chronicle and Post to read about what had happened. Over the next 20 years, I don't think I ever met anyone who had ever heard of the Camp Logan riot in Houston. Fortunately, I've met some since. The American habit of hiding the uglier parts of our history is extremely disappointing.
@lthomas6022
@lthomas6022 9 ай бұрын
Very informative video.
@wem_iii
@wem_iii 10 ай бұрын
I didn't even hear about this movie. Thanks for suggesting it.
@arturocavendish6859
@arturocavendish6859 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this after work!
@BIGBOPPER41
@BIGBOPPER41 10 ай бұрын
I didn't even know this movie happened. Sick review, didn't even know about the mutiny either.
@JeffreyDeCristofaro
@JeffreyDeCristofaro 9 ай бұрын
Gonna recommend this one! Also willing to forgive you for not openly bashing Wilson in this review on the basis that you FINALLY got your PhD. Congratulations! 👏🎉🎆
@Feezec
@Feezec 9 ай бұрын
This story reminds me of the WW2 Battle of Brisbane, a deadly riot between Australian and American soldiers. it might be interesting to compare the disciplinary proceedings that followed the two incidents
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy 10 ай бұрын
WILSOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!
@theshenpartei
@theshenpartei 10 ай бұрын
Yep
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Funny thing is I actually recorded a Wilson yell, but felt it was inappropriate in this case. I kinda view it as an inside joke which might accidentally make light of race massacres
@ultimategamer876
@ultimategamer876 10 ай бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian probably a good call. I saw Sam Aranow's comment that you don't want to become the 'Wilson' guy but it may be too late for that my dude.
@MurderousEagle
@MurderousEagle 10 ай бұрын
St. Louis here. Note about the East StL Riot. When taught at all, the materials we had available presented it as primarily a labor dispute with this really weird undertone of 'yah but they were scabs wink wink'
@zacflores215
@zacflores215 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@Hakaanu
@Hakaanu 9 ай бұрын
It’s always interesting hearing people from different regions of the US classify what is or isn’t that region. I’m from Georgia, and have always considered Texas to be part of the Southwest, and very much *not* the “South”. But to hear someone from the SW say Texas isn’t in the SW just makes me think no one wants to claim that state.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 9 ай бұрын
Depends on where in Texas. No one would argue that El Paso isn't the Southwest. But Houston is definitely the South. Generally, I consider everything west of San Antonio to be southwestern
@desertdetroiter428
@desertdetroiter428 9 ай бұрын
I’m a native Southwesterner (Arizona) and we DEFINITELY don’t consider Texas as a part of us once you get east of El Paso. They are NOT southwesterners whatsoever and we don’t want them lumped in with us.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 7 күн бұрын
Texas crosses regions. But you can’t tell me that Texas isn’t part of the south.
@DerrickSeaborne
@DerrickSeaborne 10 ай бұрын
Interesting,I'll check it out
@NickDanger0001
@NickDanger0001 9 ай бұрын
L Co. 24th Inf. were in Skagway, Alaska during the Klondike Gold Rush
@AsymmetricalCrimes
@AsymmetricalCrimes 9 ай бұрын
I saw this movie while randomly while scrolling through Amazon Prime last year. It was great, highly recommend to anyone who has yet to see it.
@LEVELGAZANOW
@LEVELGAZANOW 5 ай бұрын
The same incident happened at Fort Brown in Brownsville, Tx
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 5 ай бұрын
Not the same as I explain in the video
@LEVELGAZANOW
@LEVELGAZANOW 5 ай бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian the incident in Fort Brown led to the creation of the Urban League and NAACP
@RichGilpin
@RichGilpin 6 ай бұрын
Just found this on AUSA website: Thu, 11/16/2023 - 07:00 More than 100 years later, the Army is moving to set aside the court-martial convictions of 110 Black soldiers who were convicted after the World War I-era Houston Riots. Army Secretary Christine Wormuth approved the recommendation of the Army Board for Correction of Military Records to set aside the convictions, the Army announced Nov. 13. The soldiers belonged to the 3rd Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment, also known as the Buffalo Soldiers.
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
In order to tell the entire saga it would have to be done like Roots was done....like 4 part series. And if the riots hadn't been going on they could have reached higher whereas here they were just happy to be able to like.....put it out there at all.
@fuckboi_killa
@fuckboi_killa 9 ай бұрын
Props for not even referencing Bob Marley
@ryangrant1724
@ryangrant1724 9 ай бұрын
I like that “ just because of a single mutany” Ya just a “SINGLE MUTANY” Like what unit hasn’t had a mutany or 2
@brianhotaling5849
@brianhotaling5849 9 ай бұрын
In a time of massive racism, Wilson was extra-massive
@peterkom
@peterkom 10 ай бұрын
say hi to your cat from me :) good episode :)
@adrianchannelle8651
@adrianchannelle8651 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your Doctorate. 🎓
@Rayzersword
@Rayzersword 9 ай бұрын
Oh shit, its Flint Marko from Spider-Man 3. You'd think he would be more sensitive to discrimination having been a "Sand man". :p
@andrewhaas5626
@andrewhaas5626 9 ай бұрын
Going to look for this. Very interesting and sad that this was never bought up in history class. These men and the Jim Crow era just insane hate and cruelty that needs to be taught and learned to help heal these wrongs.
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather was an army drill sargent from world war 2 until at least late 60s. He was from Atkins South Carolina And he was proud to drill for the clorored units they fought better than any other and were eager. It was an opportunity not an obligation for the colored units.
@dincrutcher
@dincrutcher 2 ай бұрын
Prayers
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
5:55
@titanoboa7165
@titanoboa7165 6 ай бұрын
" . . to the everlasting dishonor of the United States . ." Well put.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 6 ай бұрын
I'm a veteran myself afterall
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
They also COULDN'T AFFORD THE HOLLYWOOD BUDGET TO DIPICT THE ACTUAL SCALE OF LEGIONS ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AND NO CGI AND TO DELVE DEEPER INTO SPECIFICS WOULD HAVE MADE IT REAL REAL REAL REAL EXPENSIVE. cause for when it was made its amazing and yeah good movie choice
@nickmargaritis3263
@nickmargaritis3263 9 ай бұрын
🎉
@HBCOU
@HBCOU 10 күн бұрын
Reparations now Reparations tomorrow Reparations forever!
@sageex3931
@sageex3931 7 күн бұрын
Yep
@nosferatuoddz7974
@nosferatuoddz7974 10 ай бұрын
WILSOOOON!!!
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Funny thing is I actually recorded a Wilson yell, but felt it was inappropriate in this case. I kinda view it as an inside joke which might accidentally make light of race massacres
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy 10 ай бұрын
Has this video been demon-etized?
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 10 ай бұрын
not yet
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy 10 ай бұрын
​@@CynicalHistorianas soon as the bots pick up on the phrase "flaying soldiers alive" this video might even be age restricted. #TrustBustGoogle.
@EGSBiographies-om1wb
@EGSBiographies-om1wb 9 ай бұрын
113th
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
You know I was reading way too many books cutting school in 7th grade and the SF public library is free....specially for me....a student that skipped school cause long story lol
@jamesdragonforce
@jamesdragonforce 9 ай бұрын
I sincerely hate it when people try to excuse violence.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 9 ай бұрын
Same
@jamesdragonforce
@jamesdragonforce 9 ай бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian Really good work on getting your PHD. I think you have much to the discussion of violence. Long time supporter btw.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 9 ай бұрын
I wish i could make direct episodes from my diss, but KZfaq won't monetize them
@jamesdragonforce
@jamesdragonforce 9 ай бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian Fuck KZfaq.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 9 ай бұрын
Sure. Sadly, every platform comes with such interference, though it's especially galling when TeamYT makes all kinds of statements about "supporting education." They only mean sanitized history and STEM. Nothing more substantial than that
@talpark8796
@talpark8796 10 ай бұрын
🤨
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
No. Not that "they " are unsympathetic to their plight. See it was filmed in the terms and way that the general public viewed it. Its done that way so that it can frustrate the viewer...likely white suburbanites you " why isn't any one sympathetic or why the harsh punishment its so unfair..... And yes that's the feeling they want all colors to feel when hearing the story. So that the viewer can feel how it felt to be treated like that because they knew at the time how frustrating and unfair to be shown like that....but like Mark Twain....he wanted the viewer to use their modern morals to create a less time consuming way to illustrate how racism FEELS...not just what it means. But WHAT RACISM feels like . THAT'S A WHOLE other thing
@lascu9148
@lascu9148 9 ай бұрын
Hello, can you make a video on Freemasonry/Masonry. It would be nice to learn how they actually are and were. Even some of the Founding Fathers were a part of them.
@user-lk1wp3xy5k
@user-lk1wp3xy5k 9 ай бұрын
Smh serve the country and they still get treated less than human .
@detectiveharris8772
@detectiveharris8772 9 ай бұрын
The american way
@nathanielrichardson9817
@nathanielrichardson9817 Ай бұрын
OK. WHATS NEW?
@augustodelerme7233
@augustodelerme7233 10 ай бұрын
We need another Progressive era Teddy roosevelt & LBJ's great society! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@morganboutwell8231
@morganboutwell8231 9 ай бұрын
Bro what!?!
@sageex3931
@sageex3931 7 күн бұрын
Yep
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
I.miss my granddad
@KamikazeKatze666
@KamikazeKatze666 10 ай бұрын
All hail King Richard!
@foundingfarther1213
@foundingfarther1213 9 ай бұрын
Those sweet lil kisses ❤
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 10 ай бұрын
False advertising. These soldiers don't even resemble buffalo
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Cheyennes apparently thought so
@sageex3931
@sageex3931 7 күн бұрын
They are
@MagdaleneDivine
@MagdaleneDivine 10 ай бұрын
If the great war had lasted longer black soldiers would have gone in first lol like the army sees it as hey why can't black people do this so your Lilly boy saves safe with mummy lol
@mrbushlied7742
@mrbushlied7742 9 ай бұрын
1917 was the year of the glorious Bolshevik Revolution which was the greatest event in human history.
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