The 2b2t 1.19 Disaster - What's Next?

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fastvincent1

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2b2t has finally updated to 1.19 and beyond but resulted in the community revolting...
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Hausemaster: Updating the server after 6 years.
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Jacktherippa: Footage and opinion. You can find his video here: • Jack's Opinion on the ...
SalC1: Footage - • 2b2t 1.19 Update Follo...
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Octopath Traveler 2 - Den of Darkness
Octopath Traveler 2 - Without Hope, Without Warmth Day
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Chrono Trigger - Primitive Mountain (Orchestral Remix) by Malcolm Robinson: • Chrono Trigger - Primi...
Final Fantasy VIII - Fire Cavern - Find Your Way
PLvsAA - 2-16 - Logic and Baroque
Octopath Traveler - An Ill Omen
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - Beta Song 3
Undertale - Another Medium (SLOWED & REVERB): • Undertale - Another Me...
MINECRAFT MODS USED:
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Blockbuster by McHorse:
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KZfaq MEMBERS:
Katze Flocken
Jimyy, popstonia, MatthewMaru, HighwayMaker, 44 6f 63 74 6f 72 20 53 74 72 61 6e 67 65, SV, Professor_reaper, w., Capy, rusher, Golden Bread, Sebastian Muller, AspectedRatio, Robby's Airsoft Corner, jesse feenstra, Cody Ledger, Bruno Villalba, R6H2, Hooty_enjoyer, Shiya - 2b2t, Nick S, stef4ako, LIKEMIDIS, Zeb, Harper, Compwnter, MaxoCore, Max Bin
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Timestamps ⏱
0:00 Intro
0:23 The Hype
1:31 Unexpected Changes
3:06 The Major Changes
4:26 Anger
4:50 2b2t Official Rules
5:29 The Revolting
6:15 The Other Side
6:58 The Turning Point
8:18 Hausemaster's Response
11:18 The Reversion
11:50 The Future?
12:35 My Opinions
13:56 Beginning of a New Era
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@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
To clarify, since I didn't fully explain it, 2b2t has been reset to the first day of 1.19 without the economy reset and chunk culling.
@1fault
@1fault 7 ай бұрын
fix your speech impediment
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 7 ай бұрын
@1fault no, this is peak gamer speech
@evilcup9656
@evilcup9656 7 ай бұрын
Did the timestamps disappeared? @@fastvincent1
@silvercenturion4214
@silvercenturion4214 7 ай бұрын
@@1faultthen don't watch if you don't like it
@ObscEst
@ObscEst 7 ай бұрын
@@1fault one day someone is going to fix your attitude for you.
@FrostySauce
@FrostySauce 8 ай бұрын
the most surprising thing about this whole situation is that fitmc hasn't made a video yet
@JamesTDG
@JamesTDG 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I am pretty sure Fit was in the middle of making one until Hause decided to apologise.
@marinaaaa2735
@marinaaaa2735 8 ай бұрын
He probably had to scrap his original video after hause went back on the changes
@buizelmeme6288
@buizelmeme6288 8 ай бұрын
I think fit no longer trust housemaster and let his channel went into archive mode.
@nwrproductions3751
@nwrproductions3751 8 ай бұрын
At this point, Fit has probably left the server
@inhcap2224
@inhcap2224 8 ай бұрын
fit is hause
@DjDeadpig
@DjDeadpig 8 ай бұрын
One of the few times I’d argue Hause buying cocaine is better than wasting his time on this server.
@MrRosco
@MrRosco 8 ай бұрын
Then how does he get the money to buy the cocaine if the server is a waste of time?
@aydenplaysthis
@aydenplaysthis 8 ай бұрын
.....become a drug dealer...?@@MrRosco
@dizo-jp2td
@dizo-jp2td 8 ай бұрын
If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9
@QuarkGamingLLC
@QuarkGamingLLC 8 ай бұрын
@@dizo-jp2tdif you declare with your mouth “I like big sweaty black balls in my face” then god will summon Tyrone the champion to slap his meat on you
@QuarkGamingLLC
@QuarkGamingLLC 8 ай бұрын
-niggalations 4:20
@galliumgames3962
@galliumgames3962 8 ай бұрын
The one real thing that makes 2B2T stand out from the rest is the sheer amount of organically created lore, replete with artifacts, ruins and stories that few MC servers, hell even video game servers in general have whatsoever. The soft economy reset and removing illegal blocks erased a lot of the history of the server and the stories those items tell. There’s nothing wrong with balancing the server to be more playable and enjoyable, but the history scattered everywhere is the one thing that shouldn’t ever be touched as that’s what really makes 2B2T truly unique.
@shanetestini5547
@shanetestini5547 8 ай бұрын
Do you have that same view when other players destroy the history of the server?
@shahimkoog
@shahimkoog 8 ай бұрын
​@@shanetestini5547no
@yeah1522
@yeah1522 8 ай бұрын
@@shanetestini5547 wow so clever wholesome 100 shut up players have the right to do what they want, it's literally an anarchy server. hause is literally giving the "no rules" server rules now, is it that surprising that people are outraged?
@shanetestini5547
@shanetestini5547 8 ай бұрын
@@yeah1522 That wasnt my point. I was simply asking why it would be different if a player wipes out a historic site rather then the admin. His intention was to improve server performance, not delete the history of the server. Also anarchy should apply to hause master as well. Hes free to make what ever changes he wants. Hes literally the owner of the server. 2B2T isnt truely a anarchy server, hause master has removed people priority que access, and chat privilages for various reason before. Clearly there lines he punishes people for crossing.
@tweakr4377
@tweakr4377 8 ай бұрын
@@shanetestini5547 Part of the history of 2B2T is that things are temporary and often destroyed, which in some ways makes the relics and stories people do have more valuable. Also, the destruction of certain bases or items are themselves historically important, and adds to the grand narrative of 2b2t. I personally hate how common griefing is, and cringe when a group blows up a beautiful base that took years to complete, but I’m not a 2b2t player
@Zyvo2
@Zyvo2 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Housemaster is just trying to keep the server as "Anarchy Friendly" while preventing Mojang from banning the Server's IP completely. As the most notorious Server for breaking EULA, the Mojang dev have begun work blocking IPs of many servers with even minor offences; instead of you know, letting the community do moderation as they have been for 12 years.
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 8 ай бұрын
Raid Mojang
@petey5009
@petey5009 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, you just made that up. 2b2t only breaks the eula for selling priority queues, as under the eula all players need to pay the same price for access (whether that be free or a set cost). And mojang hasn't done anything about that (yet)
@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131
@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@petey5009wrong since hacks are also not allowed under eula
@spykillergames8402
@spykillergames8402 8 ай бұрын
Yea no thats BS yes Microsoft are forcing a new eula..... But they so far haven't taken any action.... Plus only the priority queue system breaks it..... Thy don't care if your rocking impact client
@spykillergames8402
@spykillergames8402 8 ай бұрын
@@mafinalmessagechangedaworl7131 WRONG a simple Google would debunk that.... But you're too ignorant or stupid to do that
@TourFaint
@TourFaint 8 ай бұрын
Tbh, the chunk culling logic seems solid, every other change is ridiculous, but i wouldn't mind deleting chunks that literally no one even stepped on.
@hectormontes7056
@hectormontes7056 8 ай бұрын
Idk that seemed like the worst one of all. Seeing a map with chunks where it’s comically apparent it when they were generated kind of adds a lot.
@Caramelsomething
@Caramelsomething 8 ай бұрын
Actually, with this one, I will silently agree. Though, giving players a 1 month heads up about the chunks is most likely necessary
@jesipohl6717
@jesipohl6717 8 ай бұрын
change is hard get used to it.
@xeridea
@xeridea 7 ай бұрын
@@hectormontes7056It would still be obvious when they were generated, reverting has no benefit, but largely neutralizes any benefit of updating.
@lucaslennan3356
@lucaslennan3356 7 ай бұрын
It seems reasonable until you realize it serves no purpose, the server size will barely be impacted and the extra memory for it is extremely cheap comepared to the amount made from priority subscriptions.
@runkelpokk9
@runkelpokk9 8 ай бұрын
i think 2b2t gets some unfair blame, mojang recently doubled down on their stupid child friendly rules and i bet 2b2t had to add rules to not be striked by mojang
@DxBlack
@DxBlack 8 ай бұрын
I highly doubt Microsoft would go after adult-themed servers in court...
@SKRUNKLES
@SKRUNKLES 8 ай бұрын
​@@DxBlackwhy wouldn't they, it would be way easier since the proof would be abundant.
@runkelpokk9
@runkelpokk9 8 ай бұрын
@@DxBlack they already went for gta servers and said "no guns allowed"
@sparkthedragon
@sparkthedragon 8 ай бұрын
@@DxBlack they have already before
@Punished-Cannoli
@Punished-Cannoli 8 ай бұрын
@@DxBlack they have it says that tall online servers have to at least follow a certain set of rules on microsofts end or they get nuked
@StuffandThings_
@StuffandThings_ 8 ай бұрын
Long term, I think the Minecraft anarchy community as a whole is screwed. Its only a matter of time before Micro$oft decides they need to go and makes a serious attempt at it. It will be interesting to see how other games (Minetest, Vintage Story, Hytale (if/when it releases)) could pull off an anarchy environment.
@baileyharrison1030
@baileyharrison1030 8 ай бұрын
I don't see why Microsoft would care. 2b2t is just a server. Microsoft taking responsibility for the content of 2b2t would be like Google Chrome taking responsibility for the content of some random website.
@JohnPorkMC
@JohnPorkMC 8 ай бұрын
@@baileyharrison1030 + remember when blocksmc was blacklisted by mojang? no? because 30 minutes after they had already changed their server ip and since it haven't got any problem
@StuffandThings_
@StuffandThings_ 8 ай бұрын
@@baileyharrison1030 Well, I mean that's exactly what they're trying to do. They've already directly gone after servers who make slightly realistic gun weapons, so going after full blown anarchy with all sorts of toxic elements isn't that big of a stretch.
@Lunabyes
@Lunabyes 8 ай бұрын
Man, Hytale has been in development since 2014. I don't think we're ever going to get it at this point lmao. It was supposed to come out 2 years ago now
@emrysgaming6015
@emrysgaming6015 8 ай бұрын
​@@Lunabyessame lmao I wish they'd just come out and tell us the truth, that the project has been scrapped because they over promised and can't deliver on what they said they would. That's just my speculation and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case or at least something similar
@Shark69420
@Shark69420 8 ай бұрын
In my opinion, deleting those unused chunks was fine, sure they're a part of history, but they were unused anyways, and you never know, maybe that chunk had an ancient city but because it was generated long before the update it didn't generate.
@ertgb_
@ertgb_ 8 ай бұрын
I could be wrong, but it's possible ancient cities could still spawn because the deepslate is all newly generated
@sethsmith2608
@sethsmith2608 8 ай бұрын
POV: Ancient cities generate anyway bc the world height was lowered
@Cubicflow
@Cubicflow 8 ай бұрын
@@sethsmith2608 that's not how you use POV
@sethsmith2608
@sethsmith2608 8 ай бұрын
@@Cubicflow POV: no one asked frfr
@Shark69420
@Shark69420 8 ай бұрын
@@ertgb_ oh, didn't know that, but what about the biomes, a cooler biome might have generated next to your base if chunks are reset. Also, the modified terrain generator was a cool idea, as we could have seen more bases and maybe prevent coord exploits, but Sal just didn't like it because he was a base hunter of some sort. Wish Hause just focused on the major stuff why players are angry such as the economy reset, outlawing duping on an anarchy server and xray prevention
@Oxurus
@Oxurus 8 ай бұрын
I honestly think the chunk culling should have stayed. The map is getting seriously huge, deleting chunks that no one's actually used would have helped a lot.
@casualbird7671
@casualbird7671 8 ай бұрын
The only change I was okay with was the chunk culling. I'm glad things were rolled back
@charlies-stuff
@charlies-stuff 8 ай бұрын
9:27 he should build a rainbow at spawn, would be a good way to show he'd never globally reset again
@737e7dhs4
@737e7dhs4 8 ай бұрын
No
@oh_finks
@oh_finks 8 ай бұрын
fr
@oh_finks
@oh_finks 8 ай бұрын
@@737e7dhs4 I don't think you get the reference
@ortherner
@ortherner 8 ай бұрын
it would get destroyed instantly
@andybuscus383
@andybuscus383 8 ай бұрын
That's hilarious. I love it.
@CloudDealing
@CloudDealing 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, with how the server is, id be more worried about how microsoft is likely going to ban the IP soon due to EULA changes and a history of EULA and TOS violations. A community complaining to Hausemaster might mean a change, but a community complaining to Microsoft once the server is inevitably taken down, will get no response.
@G.A.C_Preserve
@G.A.C_Preserve 8 ай бұрын
An violence chemical weapons warfare against Microsoft will be carried out
@mirandamanga9083
@mirandamanga9083 5 ай бұрын
2B2T alive today. But for how long.
@aaronw6195
@aaronw6195 8 ай бұрын
The harassment and threats rule is probably to curtail legal liability. In a lot of countries, with the wrong folks taking it all seriously (even if it's not) it can end up in court. The owners of 2b2t could end up footing legal bills that make carrying that kind of content just not worth it.
@patrickguy33
@patrickguy33 8 ай бұрын
watched this stuff happen live, thank god they rolled back to the 1.12 map without any map editing
@dizo-jp2td
@dizo-jp2td 8 ай бұрын
If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9
@Olizowshuffle
@Olizowshuffle 8 ай бұрын
@@dizo-jp2td based
@737e7dhs4
@737e7dhs4 8 ай бұрын
Is the game version still in 1.19? Or 1.12?
@patrickguy33
@patrickguy33 8 ай бұрын
@@737e7dhs4 Server's on 1.19 now without any modifications made to the map and inventories.
@JahkobeV3
@JahkobeV3 8 ай бұрын
​@@737e7dhs4did u figure it out?
@yayfly7349
@yayfly7349 8 ай бұрын
I think chunk culling was a good idea makes new intresting terrain and allows people to share about their bases
@thesharky
@thesharky 8 ай бұрын
If you have 3 quarters, 4 dimes, and 4 pennies, you have $1.19. You also have the largest amount of money in coins without being able to make change for a dollar.
@_sansvisage
@_sansvisage 8 ай бұрын
honestly, I don't think he did it out of any ill will; he just wanted to update the server to 1.19, but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base because most of the changes he made were to reduce the lag and stuff. honestly, I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
@boldCactuslad
@boldCactuslad 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Players became strongly opposed to many good changes due to the presentation. The various owners have ALWAYS removed lag machines, yet the community thought this was something new because of its wording. "Hause" should have kept the chunk trimming and explained how the system really can only target historyless chunks, burying any controversy in what looks like logic but are actually unfalsifiable claims - here's how it works, no you can't inspect the source code, yes it does just so happen to be something we both can agree to. Ultimately it's the server owner's job to keep the server running, and that requires the team to make token efforts to respect the EULA and to discourage server-ruining behavior eg lag machines. All the team has learned from this experience is that they have to baby the playerbase as the anarchy community is too quick to judge.
@zeda1568
@zeda1568 8 ай бұрын
I do not agree, after that response to salc1 I think that he did that by his will
@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559
@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559 8 ай бұрын
​@@boldCactusladThat still removes many of the tactics players use, and also erase a lot of history of the server. The fact that they are actually untouched by players is a big deal considering what the server's playerbase is known to do. It's also preserved examples of terrain made in that specific version of the game too.
@randovid1
@randovid1 8 ай бұрын
nah plenty of ill will there, an example is he specifically targeted player's stashes especially the pvp stashes which is a core part of 2b2t, imagine all your stacks of 64x enchanted golden apples becomes only 1x unstackable enchanted golden apple, then house was like "lmao just get more" but he doesnt fking disclose that enchanted golden apples are uncraftable and would be basically unobtainable (2% chance for newly generated chests from temples).
@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559
@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559 8 ай бұрын
@@randovid1 I mean, he isn’t entirely wrong about getting more since there is duplication methods. But it does feel rather spiteful still.
@Ninja_Walrus
@Ninja_Walrus 8 ай бұрын
What a wild ride this has been. After doing some research on all the updated blocks ect. since 1.12, I’m very excited. The only thing that I’m not to happy with is the creeper spawn rate is insane, and I think we’re gonna lose a lot signs unintentionally. In just a few days I’ve already accidentally blown up a a 2015 sign, and I’m very careful. I now use freecam to read signs Lol Great video, and I look forward to the new blocks!
@applemirer3937
@applemirer3937 8 ай бұрын
"I now use freecam to look at signs." Good tip.
@darkcrescent2903
@darkcrescent2903 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to be that person and find it funny how angry they get when a rule as simple as don't crash the server is put in place it causes chaos
@cy-bernet-ix
@cy-bernet-ix 8 ай бұрын
hause's response to salc1 was incomprehensibly based and im honestly kinda sad he apologized
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 7 ай бұрын
It based to jump on a landmine you know. Based in death.
@Cattildo
@Cattildo 7 ай бұрын
Most definitely. It goes to show you the amount of manchildren who still play 2b2t
@guard13007
@guard13007 8 ай бұрын
It feels like the majority of changes everyone was up-in-arms over were good changes. To be fair, I am not a 2b2t player, so it's not my place to judge.. but I'm curious if a slower rollout of some of those changes might be better for all involved. It's also interesting to point out how many of the changes are literally Mojang/Microsoft threatening action, and Hause responding appropriately, but because the 2b2t community is anarchist in nature - of course they don't accept this. Hopefully they are never punished for this. It's wrong of Mojang/Microsoft so suddenly change and demand that the game be played differently. Once you've sold a game - it isn't yours anymore. All the recent changes destroying the game for long-time players are not okay.
@ericestrada3530
@ericestrada3530 8 ай бұрын
If only that were the case, but in reality even though you paid for the game you don't own it, you just own a license they can alter or even take away from you
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd 7 ай бұрын
I stopped reading at “I am not a 2b2t player” don’t speak on stuff you have no idea about 🤷‍♂️
@niaford690
@niaford690 8 ай бұрын
"To have people obtain them again" _shows clip of a stack of enchanted gapples being returned to 1, an item which has no recipe anymore_
@telotawa
@telotawa 8 ай бұрын
2b2t is now a democracy server
@Raaanch
@Raaanch 8 ай бұрын
What a ride we had. Great video dude :)
@lebmachine
@lebmachine 8 ай бұрын
yes it was
@spritzerland658
@spritzerland658 8 ай бұрын
hey raaanch!
@Raaanch
@Raaanch 8 ай бұрын
Hello @@spritzerland658
@jeff9760
@jeff9760 8 ай бұрын
I still think that to some degree the item rollback wasn't a terrible idea it just had the wrong motives, 2b2t has become infested by item sellers and with how strict mojang has gotten with their EULA and how far they've gone now on enforcing it I do think there is legitimate danger on the horizon for 2b, though even with the rollback change there's still a ton more microsoft could get them for.
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 8 ай бұрын
Protest Mojang
@petey5009
@petey5009 8 ай бұрын
Since the server itself isn't selling items I think it doesn't break the eula, the only thing that 2b2t breaks the eula for is priority queue (all players must pay the same price to access a server since Aug. 2023)
@bobbydrillboids2430
@bobbydrillboids2430 7 ай бұрын
@@torterra1826have you ever seen that scene in Zombieland when Tallahassee is wiping his tears away with wads of cash? That’s how Mojang will respond to 2b2t players protesting.
@PerfectZeroMusic_
@PerfectZeroMusic_ 7 ай бұрын
@@bobbydrillboids2430 Except the part where big youtubers would catch this happening and make videos for millions to see significally increasing the amount of protestors. And at that point it wouldn't be worth it for Mojang. Steering up drama for brownie points that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things isn't worth it for them. And the attempts they *have* made on cracking down on servers have been pretty tame. I mean, if i remember correctly some of the servers that they threatened just changed their IPs and then they had no further issues. I think this is just Mojang going "look we're doing something about this terrible thing that one of you complained about" to their investors for good PR and nothing more. Time will tell though
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 7 ай бұрын
​@@bobbydrillboids2430All you need to do is convience alot of people to not play Minecraft or buy massivesoft stuff. It happened to Marvel comics. It can happen to them.
@jositom_
@jositom_ 8 ай бұрын
the new update is pretty cool. only downside is that 50% of hacked clients aren't supported anymore lmao. (unless you want your striders to be magma cubes with a name tag that makes zombie sounds. yes this actually happens.)
@buizelmeme6288
@buizelmeme6288 8 ай бұрын
Using viafabric?
@kirbstagoontheaxolotl
@kirbstagoontheaxolotl 8 ай бұрын
I'm an Impact user, and between this and another server I've got friends on coming back up hopefully, I've needed to try and find an alternative. Installing Meteor (It's the closest free client I can think of to Impact) is currently a pain as I'm not a good Fabric mod user
@the_expidition427
@the_expidition427 8 ай бұрын
Security!
@petey5009
@petey5009 8 ай бұрын
@@buizelmeme6288Server is probably running ViaVersion which is the same thing for Folia/Paper
@Fishpasta4
@Fishpasta4 8 ай бұрын
End of the day money would have been a factor that forced Hause to respond. Servers cost money and if people protest with their wallets change will inevitably happen. However I don't think this will be players 'controlling' Hause, rather I think (and hope) this will be a lesson for Hause. If this was just a simple F2P server then yeah sweeping changes would have gone in fine with no issues but when people pay money for a service you need to be transparent when changes are coming.
@Mcdude02
@Mcdude02 8 ай бұрын
2b2t players throwing a temper tantrum bc the server was objectively improved will never not be hilarious
@boomstickYT
@boomstickYT 8 ай бұрын
bum
@G.A.C_Preserve
@G.A.C_Preserve 8 ай бұрын
Objectively improved? More like objectively trashed
@StneCldKilla
@StneCldKilla 8 ай бұрын
Honestly items had to have stayed the same/server had to re-update imo mainly because it set a precedent for nuking them again in the future. Chunk trimming was also a huge thing imo.
@Jordanthecool7
@Jordanthecool7 8 ай бұрын
The new chunk logic , and the anti cheat measures were actually pretty good changes . The rest of them I understand how the players can be upset .
@fabdig9957
@fabdig9957 8 ай бұрын
My inner English teacher is screaming every time you end your intros with "today in this video...". Try ending with a rhetorical question like "Will 2b2t be able to recover from such backlash?". It's much more engaging and confident!
@MrBelles104
@MrBelles104 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I had no idea it got a rollback! It looks like we get 1.19 with all the benefits and no downsides!
@djinnspalace2119
@djinnspalace2119 8 ай бұрын
its kinda funny how they want anarchy, but only if they are the ones on top. like, thats not what anarchy is brother.
@peconi47
@peconi47 8 ай бұрын
love it that he responds as soon as he starts losing money
@maninthesnow4393
@maninthesnow4393 8 ай бұрын
I can understand removing blocks and items. Every item adds data to the server and to many items can bog it down, however on a server like this its a bit hard to remove any items.
@HDTomo
@HDTomo 8 ай бұрын
the situation is (mostly) over, SalC1 withdrew and the strikers got what they wanted removed from the update. Anything past this is probably gonna fade away
@Levy_Wilson
@Levy_Wilson 8 ай бұрын
Hause only reneged after his livelihood was in jeopardy. Just shows what really controls 2b2t, the Almighty Dollar.
@paulsteve007
@paulsteve007 8 ай бұрын
Great coverage fastvincent1 🙏 thank you
@Jacktherippa84
@Jacktherippa84 8 ай бұрын
6:56 "brought out *the man* in players" Lmao Vincent! That's such a funny way to put it, but I whole-heatedly agree
@Frosty4Real
@Frosty4Real 8 ай бұрын
props to Hausemaster for being the bigger man, he just wanted to give the server a fresh breath of air and make it more fun. but it backlashed and he listened. i salute you, Hausemaster
@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296
@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296 8 ай бұрын
As someone who workd with server management almost every single change here was made because of limitations of the upgrade and foila
@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296
@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296 8 ай бұрын
Wow holy shit I'm on the vote part, 2b2t is dead, it is not maintainable anymore. Its only limited by housemaster finding something better to do
@BasementDweller_
@BasementDweller_ 8 ай бұрын
Groovy video on the topic.
@elcaiman9709
@elcaiman9709 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always Vicent (btw thanks for the free cameo)
@starlightningduelist7273
@starlightningduelist7273 8 ай бұрын
Very well worded and documented, good stuff
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@cskelly3783
@cskelly3783 8 ай бұрын
Great video Vincent, I really like how you waited to give a more objective and factual observation of the new changes instead of throwing together multiple quick videos while all this was happening. I really wonder where fit is at though… what was the clip at 12:25 from? Is that from a recent stream? Anyways great video.
@cocoidle
@cocoidle 8 ай бұрын
It's from FitMC on Twitch - QSMP Day 160 ~1:53:09
@iMacJames
@iMacJames 8 ай бұрын
yeah seemingly playing quackitys new SMP server and hasn't been involved with 2b2t as much, we shall see the future
@_shadow_1
@_shadow_1 8 ай бұрын
I find it a bit funny that anarchy server players of all things, expected the server owner to maintain and enforce anarchy like it's a rule to be enforced.
@matthewbarabas3052
@matthewbarabas3052 8 ай бұрын
i find it funny that people were up in arms with actual rules being a thing. its disgusting, really, and the people up in arms are exactly the kind of people thats not welcome online.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 8 ай бұрын
@@matthewbarabas3052 This is a reddit comment.
@NatalieRar
@NatalieRar 8 ай бұрын
Hause forgot how bad he needed those priority queue sheckles and the 2b2t players reminded him of that 🤣
@_sansvisage
@_sansvisage 8 ай бұрын
honestly I don't think he did it out of any ill will he just wanted to update the server to 1.19 but he just updated the server in a way that wasn't satisfactory to the player base cause like most of the changes he made was to reduce the lag and stuff honestly I think what should've happened was more communication between him and the player base to set some compromises for the player base.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 8 ай бұрын
Hausenberg needed all the shmeckles
@G.A.C_Preserve
@G.A.C_Preserve 8 ай бұрын
@@_sansvisage he did it because of Ill intend cause I said so
@timothyvanhoeck233
@timothyvanhoeck233 8 ай бұрын
For those mad at 2b2t's server owners over these changes, blame Mojang/Microshaft for their recent Orwellian EULA changes which basically outlawed 2b2t in it's intended form with extreme prejudice. It was either 2b2t become something else entirely or be shut down forever.
@ninjatakes4321
@ninjatakes4321 8 ай бұрын
there's no way shit's going to update ever now, which might not be a bad thing. If haus wants to continue their own interest in the game instead of retiring the server entirely in ten years when the fun stops again he should make a new anarchy server with his update specifications. New revenue stream, new arena to fill with new precedent
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
The server is on 1.19 and from what the website said, he will update to later versions as well
@ninjatakes4321
@ninjatakes4321 8 ай бұрын
@@fastvincent1 oh crud, so is it just an amended update now or did I mishear something from the video?
@haroondaman7162
@haroondaman7162 8 ай бұрын
​@@ninjatakes4321maybe roll back to preupdate, and then update again the way people wanted
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
​@@ninjatakes4321 Basically the server was reverted to the first day of 1.19 but without the economy reset and chunk culling
@overcasts
@overcasts 8 ай бұрын
wooo! Vincent documentary finally dropped!
@shapeswitch_mood7221
@shapeswitch_mood7221 8 ай бұрын
While the owner and the community both had fair points, I believe the crucial mistake was the immediate changes applied to the server without consulting the community. Like Chat Report. Applied without the opinion of the people. You remember the back clash. I believe rules and changes should have been brought to the players as a Poll, like the owner did for the final fate of the server rollback.
@MaoRatto
@MaoRatto 8 ай бұрын
It's due to Minecraft's EULA.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 8 ай бұрын
@@MaoRatto more like 1984
@TheNightWatcher1385
@TheNightWatcher1385 7 ай бұрын
Frankly, most of the changes seemed completely reasonable.
@medkatyt
@medkatyt 8 ай бұрын
i hope they get rid of global death messages that was one of the good changes
@Cyynapse
@Cyynapse 6 ай бұрын
i think in the end it worked out for the best, and im glad the owner listened to the community. id been waiting til 1.19 to rejoin the server, and now its good to be back
@Mgames_xd
@Mgames_xd 8 ай бұрын
This is unfortunate. Housemaster should've audited these major changes with his community, made the necessary compromises and implemented them over the span of a few years... It's an ugly stain of an already bad record as a community manager
@commiekiller3000
@commiekiller3000 8 ай бұрын
The trouble wasn’t exclusive to the 2b2t playerbase, but to all anarchy players. Everyone had to deal with the influx of children begging for kits, only for them to retreat to 2b shortly after-not to mention the unbearable lag they brought.
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 8 ай бұрын
Hope this doesn't ruin updates going forward, this ordeal might mean 2B2T will be stuck on 1.12 forever. It didn't sound all bad with the changes, chunk regeneration sounded good, there's literally nothing there so who cares? Plus, modern mechanics like swimming, heck yes. Only really bad was the economy update, removing totems and crystals, ouch. I think that was what set people off, by the time Hause stepped in to offer an undo, they wanted to make it hurt by restoring the chunks too. Maybe if they cooled down, they'd reconsider regenerating chunks.
@Sylverknight0222
@Sylverknight0222 8 ай бұрын
Lmao the one added rule is "no bullying" and as such "It's not anarchy anymore". Bruh, 2b2t is something uh
@ICITRONSI
@ICITRONSI 5 ай бұрын
i really do think it's a good update. not only does it make 2b2t more inviting without making it too inviting so that it doesnt just become a vanilla server, it also alienates the older 2b2t members, so that they stop playing 2b2t and maybe have a chance to go outside again. truly a win-win scenario.
@aftongachastudio2857
@aftongachastudio2857 8 ай бұрын
As a normal player I don't really have any idea about 2b2t's things but personally i think housemaster has left the community almost intact for many years and even if what he did was pretty harsh and fast he still deserves to have some say and yet as it's said money does rule most of things and he probably realized that at this point rather than him the community rules the server
@tornadokegan
@tornadokegan 8 ай бұрын
Finally news from 2b2t
@powernest5213
@powernest5213 8 ай бұрын
Great video🎉
@ShippFilms
@ShippFilms 5 ай бұрын
2b2t players not throwing a fit when 2 terabytes worth of chunks nobody has ever even seen get deleted and they're told not to dox children online challenge (impossible, apparently)
@wqsted9988
@wqsted9988 8 ай бұрын
as a regular const player I think the whole 2b2t was used to the luxuries of a broken economy is VERY true. const's economy is much more scarce than 2b2t's and I'll tell you right now it is very riveting having to think before entering combat with mobs and with players. I was shocked finding out that most of the folks on const were pretty against the 2b2t changes. (barring the huge influx of 2b2t players)
@FloatySMG
@FloatySMG 8 ай бұрын
I still can’t believe he thought this was a good idea.. but at least he is gonna revert it all.. thankfully. Oh and great video btw! Love the Mario galaxy music as well 😅
@herobrineapril8451
@herobrineapril8451 8 ай бұрын
please make more base history videos :D
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
I will!
@darkmetaOFFICIAL
@darkmetaOFFICIAL 8 ай бұрын
WOW dude u sure did out a lot of work into this, i cant help obsessing over the edits, i cant listen to the story 🤣
@Someone.or.no-one
@Someone.or.no-one 8 ай бұрын
We would all absolutely love for 2b2t to update to the newest version, however, we don't want unnecessary, banal, and stodgy rules to be introduced and enforced, we would just like the update.
@werr3222werrr
@werr3222werrr 8 ай бұрын
I think the rules are a legal thing, it is 2b after all, but I don’t think they actually care. They just don’t want to get sued
@phantasma1241
@phantasma1241 8 ай бұрын
Gemmy music used in this video, especially Space Storm Galaxy.
@r2shyyou_
@r2shyyou_ 8 ай бұрын
Vincent’s last-sentence “moral of the story”-type endings are so great 😂
@elijahtj278
@elijahtj278 6 ай бұрын
Funny how a Anarchy server hates when the server own causes Anarchy.
@MrAndriuxin
@MrAndriuxin 8 ай бұрын
i cant but completely agree with housemaster about the chunk trimming salc1 is the most dramatic 40 year old ever, they explicitly said chunks with builds on them wouldnt be affected the server endured years of chunk loading related exploits so there is terrain that was never touched and never will be, trimming those off would make the new blocks easier to obtain get more of those funny terrain generation borders which i personally enjoy since they show the age of the server there was a boom with the elytra where players would just randomly fly around to make the world bigger on purpose and yes haha its funy we break the server hehe, but the file went from gigas to teras in just a few weeks, thats thousands of dollars needed to keep unused files i dont think its wrong to look for ways to improve the gameplay on the server and its sustainability
@brandon9172
@brandon9172 8 ай бұрын
But change bad!!!!!
@RickyRozayyy
@RickyRozayyy 8 ай бұрын
Salc1 is a man child bet he still lives with his parents
@Z3rgatul
@Z3rgatul 8 ай бұрын
unrolling chunk trimming means server maintenance cost remains high. consequences: - if amount of priority queue players drastically goes down - server may become unprofitable. what will hause do in such case? - if priority queue players group up again and demand some stupid feature just to fun, like weddings, hause will listen to them again?
@zisischartampilas6601
@zisischartampilas6601 7 ай бұрын
this should be extremely intresting cant wait to see what the crazy tb2t players do even with the bad apdate
@gu9838
@gu9838 8 ай бұрын
it was crazy he allowed the world to be so big i wish he put in a limit it would have limited the size and all
@joshmccarty8800
@joshmccarty8800 8 ай бұрын
Really its smart for house to listen to the community. There are two definitions of anarchy no rules which would mean a unplayable server full of lag machines and just can’t be or no rulers and would have community based decisions. If you have rules and house being a dictator you aren’t anarchy by any definition.
@JBBrickman
@JBBrickman 8 ай бұрын
Wait he rolled it back? wow, after all this time, i might play again
@mcb187
@mcb187 8 ай бұрын
While I definitely understand the reasoning behind all these changes, they went about it in absolutely the wrong way. Haven’t played 2B2T in years now, but I would be pissed if my stash got decimated by these updates. Glad the bad changes got rolled back, maybe I’ll hop on again at some point.
@randovid1
@randovid1 8 ай бұрын
imagine having tens of shulkers with x64 enchanted golden apple stacks now becomes x1 unstackable enchanted golden apples then just being told to get more when haus fully knows its uncraftable and basically unobtainable in 1.19 lmao
@magisteryura
@magisteryura 8 ай бұрын
Lol, why do you care if you don't play.
@thesharky
@thesharky 8 ай бұрын
It took Leo Tolstoy six years to write "War & Peace".
@masonhales
@masonhales 8 ай бұрын
I'm fairly confident housemaster is no longer in control of the server and he sold it. The removal of greentext is the biggest giveaway, a 4chan oldfag would never remove it.
@eiuanviuanen
@eiuanviuanen 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video Vincent
@fastvincent1
@fastvincent1 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@yngsmiley8308
@yngsmiley8308 8 ай бұрын
so many things been going crazy with 2b2t hope they get everything resolved and whatnot :) :)
@wesleyward5901
@wesleyward5901 8 ай бұрын
I still don't think I can ever get over the irony of an anarchy server having things like rules and anti-cheat.
@Sorange_
@Sorange_ 8 ай бұрын
2b2t has always had an anti-cheat lol
@DaDandyman
@DaDandyman 6 ай бұрын
2b2t is not and never was an "anarchy server." It's a vanilla server with no formalized rules. "Anarchy server" is a designation given to servers inspired by the environment this fostered.
@Und3rBr0ny115
@Und3rBr0ny115 8 ай бұрын
I wonder why people didn't consider making a legacy server to coexist with the 1.19 version? Then again, I've never been in 2b2t, so I'd like to hear why it would or wouldn't work.
@antt2228
@antt2228 8 ай бұрын
I don't play either, but I think it would be expensive to maintain for the admin. It also could cause a splint in the community, akin to the whole 1.8 vs 1.20 debate that rages on today
@xinguan2681
@xinguan2681 8 ай бұрын
13:15 This kinda reminds me of the Zamwalt class destroyer. It has many many many new technologies AT ONCE!
@dev_insights101
@dev_insights101 8 ай бұрын
I knew this would happen when mojang announced chat reporting.
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 8 ай бұрын
Part of me thinks Hause had a point. The item reset would just be undone by dupes anyways, that's the one constant of 2b2t. Everything gets undone.
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 8 ай бұрын
I will openly admit, I'm not a 2b2t player, but I find some of the changes to be reasonable. Many chunks were almost worthless, so might as well be reset. The item economy reset is a grey area, as millions of the reduced items still existed, and they were never meant to exist anyways, but the inevitable dupes mean the reset was mostly a waste of time. In the end, the changes were undone, so whatever.
@SpicyCheeseAltHistory
@SpicyCheeseAltHistory 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@dandanthedandan7558
@dandanthedandan7558 8 ай бұрын
Only thing I agree with is the no bullying rule
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 8 ай бұрын
@@dandanthedandan7558 I can imagine the EULA changes also made it so that they couldn't be allowed anyways. Otherwise 2b2t itself could be targeted by Mojang.
@fullaccess2645
@fullaccess2645 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a 2b2t player either, but I regularly watch 2b2t content from fitmc and salc1. Imo the only thing that makes the server interesting is the anarchy, if they change that I bet most people will lose interest.
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 8 ай бұрын
@@fullaccess2645 I think you'd need to define "anarchy" since there have always been some set of soft rules, but people weren't punished by bans, but minor punishments like kicks and priority queue bans were a thing for however long. Also keep in mind that "anarchy" applies to the owner as well.
@SkullGamingNation
@SkullGamingNation 5 ай бұрын
I find it wild af! That people would loose their shit for changes as minor as the ones listed on this video
@hurt4265
@hurt4265 8 ай бұрын
fantastic video
@pidgeon30gaming
@pidgeon30gaming 8 ай бұрын
Hyped for these gaps haha
@shrimpwalk8230
@shrimpwalk8230 8 ай бұрын
2b2t wouldn't have survived a FitMC response video
@Fuxy22
@Fuxy22 8 ай бұрын
Should have done a poll first especially about contravercial changes...
@holymeto9981
@holymeto9981 8 ай бұрын
5:52 I know that pro-Antkeeper guy!
@MouthJaw
@MouthJaw 8 ай бұрын
Hausemaster shouldn't've backed down and should have kept going
@Cheats4Cheaters994
@Cheats4Cheaters994 8 ай бұрын
I feel kinda sorry for housemaster. Imagine the amount of effort he puts in to keep the server running, join-able, and keeping history going. He was thinking about the server, and not the players :(
@ernestwarhead4144
@ernestwarhead4144 8 ай бұрын
Maybe changing to 1.19 would be a good idea erasing untouched chunks, that way you have the best of both worlds allowing old chunks to spawn with the new engine
@daxmoney5011
@daxmoney5011 8 ай бұрын
Bro when Hause was responding to SalC1 I got a bit of Mr.McMahon vibes
@DoctorPotassium
@DoctorPotassium 8 ай бұрын
I'm very impressed with how Haus sucked it up and did the right thing. More of a man then most of us.
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