The 3 Most Powerful Targaryens (Game of Thrones Lore)

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@abandonallhope.1040
@abandonallhope.1040 Жыл бұрын
Visenya is QUEEN. Daenerys has Rhaenys' soft beauty and Visenya's strength and ruthlessness.
@herloss448
@herloss448 Жыл бұрын
danerys had Aegon's alpha ness
@dell6826
@dell6826 Жыл бұрын
You
@HK-gm8pe
@HK-gm8pe Жыл бұрын
dont know Dany isnt a fighter....a dragonrider but not a fighter like Visenya also by the books I wouldnt even say that she is that ruthless( remember season 7-8 didnt happen in my mind) I would say that Dany is more like Rhaenys
@Morganasnotarobot0
@Morganasnotarobot0 Жыл бұрын
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@Morganasnotarobot0
@Morganasnotarobot0 Жыл бұрын
Love this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jasminefaith9773
@jasminefaith9773 Жыл бұрын
I always prefer Queen Visenya. She only married Aegon for duty but she was everything a queen should be. It was she not Rhaenys who solidified Aegon reign. She loved her family and became one of the main reasons why westeros was conquered. Personally, I think she could’ve been queen in her own right.
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 Жыл бұрын
Technically she was, Aegon's Queens alone among the Queens were considered equal to Aegon by Aegon himself. Something that was brought up later when comparing Alysanne to them.
@kmt8825
@kmt8825 Жыл бұрын
@@revanius2213 Exactly she was basically ruling Westeros, Aegon had the right temperament of a King and figure head. But Visenya was the brains behind the operation, it wouldn't surprise me if it was her and Aegon that came up with taking over Westeros. Whats interesting about them, is that they Never really took over because they wanted glory, well some of it was for glory, but it wouldn't surprise me that people who were considered lesser than them, would not have gotten the story right when it came to Aegon. When you look at the chaos that was going on in Westeros and the tremendous amount of brutality that was going on, the realm really did need some sort of order to keep the realm in check. And I think along the way may of the Targaryens down the lineage forgot that, and thats what led to their downfall.
@JammesJammes
@JammesJammes Жыл бұрын
I don't care about her
@b_de_silva
@b_de_silva Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and she almost ruined her house by usurping the throne from Aegon the uncrowned, visenya wasn't a good queen neither a good person, she was a murderer that almost ended house Targaryen because she wanted her psychotic son maegor to be king.
@kmt8825
@kmt8825 Жыл бұрын
@@b_de_silva yes and no, Yes meager was awful. but if it wasn't for him the Targaryens would of never been able to secure their power. Jahearys Inherited the kingdom when fear was solidified, and people no longer wanted to go against them, because Maegor was so brutal, after that period an era of peace.
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill Жыл бұрын
Visenya is a terrifying lady and a very effective decision maker. She would have been a true leader and a ruthless one more akin to a Tywin.
@lillypharaoh5945
@lillypharaoh5945 Жыл бұрын
She had the evilness too
@clementejackson8090
@clementejackson8090 Жыл бұрын
Daemon Targaryen “King of the step stones & Narrow sea, Prince of the city, lord of flea bottom, Founder of the Gold cloaks etc” Wielder of dark sister dragon master to Caraxes who took down Vhagar. I think he’s pretty bloody tough lol. Great videos excited for house of the dragon ! :)
@tristanlanphere7736
@tristanlanphere7736 Жыл бұрын
Daemon's prowess with the sword was said by some to be similar to that of the god (the warrior) in the seven.
@tristanlanphere7736
@tristanlanphere7736 Жыл бұрын
Im talking about daemon blackfyre btw
@starlight0313
@starlight0313 Жыл бұрын
@@tristanlanphere7736 he was named after this Daemon
@princedaemontargaryen4971
@princedaemontargaryen4971 Жыл бұрын
I am bloody tough
@princedaemontargaryen4971
@princedaemontargaryen4971 Жыл бұрын
@@starlight0313 Daemon Targaryen wasn’t named after Daemon Blackfyre. If you meant Daemon Blackfyre was named after Daemon Targaryen, you are kinda right but not 100%. Blackfyre wasn’t named Daemon for the solo reason of being named after Daemon Targaryen.
@g-5615
@g-5615 Жыл бұрын
I would put Jaehaerys up there. Not only the best king in the history of the kingdom, but probably the most powerful one as well. He trained himself in combat until he was a match for anyone in the kingdom, and his kingsguard was said to be the greatest of all time. Pretty much the only king there ever was to actually live a long life and die of old age. He was pretty much the only ruler with no apparent weakness. Perfect in combat, perfect guards, excellent dragon+dragon riding skills, perfect relationship, admired and beloved by the kingdom (except for the north maybe) and overall a smart,independent thinker that took advice well but still adjusted his final decisions when he felt strongly about them.
@minnumseerrund
@minnumseerrund Жыл бұрын
Best Targaryen. Not most powerfull Targaryen.
@g-5615
@g-5615 Жыл бұрын
@@minnumseerrund Who's more powerful? He was a better fighter than just about every Targaryen with one or two exceptions. He had the best kings guard bar none. He had more dragons at his disposal than Aegon and his sister, as well as just about every other king. And his people were not torn like with most other rulers. Bloodraven is the only one I can see above him, or Deanaerys end of series of course.
@saralahey9290
@saralahey9290 Жыл бұрын
Nop. Jaehaerys wasnt amongst one of the best warriors in House Targaryen. His son Baelon, his grandson Daemon, Aemon the Dragonknight, Daeron the Young Dragon, Baelor Breakspear, Daemon Blackfyre and Daeron (son of Egg) were better. Also Jaehaerys' kingsguard prob had only Ryam Redwyne as a legendary Kingsguard, Aerys II was the one to have the greatest kingsguard. Plus Jaehaerys wasnt really perfect, he was an awfull father to his children besides Prince Aemon and Prince Baelon And it was in Jaehaerys' reign that the seeds to Dance of Dragons began...
@g-5615
@g-5615 Жыл бұрын
@@saralahey9290 The Dance of the Dragon was not Jeharrys fault, it was his sons. If he had not went against the decisions of the council there would never have been a dance, not at that time at least. Jaehaerys kingsgaurd is specifically mentioned as the greatest kings guard there ever was. Maybe that was before Aerys i'm not sure when Fire and Blood is meant to be written exactly. Either way that would make his at least the second greatest kingsguard. Arthur Dayne, Geralt Hightower and another kinght got defeated alongside one more kingsguardsmen against Ned stark hand his compenions, or at least we can suppose they did. And they were 5, 7? Meanwhile Jaehaery's kingsguard could scare of 51 people just the 7 of them. Those are way worse odds than 3 on 7. And the ones he was training with were also his kingsguard (I think), he was said to be an equal to them in combat, which combared to how skilled they makes them one of the greatest knights in the kingdom.
@minnumseerrund
@minnumseerrund Жыл бұрын
@@g-5615I meant personal power/strength. Obviously, Bloodraven being a greenseer-mastermind and Daenerys having prophetic powers and 3 goddamn dragons would make them stronger than Jaeherys in a 1v1 scenario, but I suppose there's an argument for him being the most powerfull ruler
@marimayes
@marimayes Жыл бұрын
I just pray HBO & George RR Martin one day give us a show on based the Conquest of Westeros. Doesn’t matter whether its animated or live action. I just need it!
@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Жыл бұрын
Thats where he should have started. Actually should have started at the fall of Valeria.
@gamesquadtv1600
@gamesquadtv1600 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 exactly started from the doom then went, the conquest, then house of dragon,then something during the mad king, and then game of thrones. But I did hear that the director for house of the dragon say it is about the whole Targaryen history not just the dance so we may be seeing other periods of time I hope we do!
@linuskaiser4563
@linuskaiser4563 Жыл бұрын
Jaehaerys the first needs to be in this list tbh. He saved the Targaryen dynasty from certain ruin after Aenys and Maegor and really brought the roam together by establishing a official law, won every war he fought (even won the 4th dornish war without losing a single man, something even Aegon the conquerer couldn’t do) and rode Vermithor, the third biggest dragon after Balerion and Vhagar. He also ruled the longest out of all the Targaryen Kings. So in my opinion he definitely earns to be on this list. Also Aegon I could be considered over Visenya in my opinion. Still a interesting video tho!
@samudragupta4395
@samudragupta4395 Жыл бұрын
Jaehaerys abd Daeron tye Good were best of The Targaryens.
@LCSGamezer
@LCSGamezer Жыл бұрын
True Id still put visenya top 5 but jaehaerys top 3 fs w dany and 3eyed raven
@rhettzkie
@rhettzkie Жыл бұрын
YESSSS. It sucks they just glossed over his entire reign because it probably would've been too boring for tv. He was that good. Him and Alyssane changed westeros.
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin Жыл бұрын
Plus it is said this his first 7 kings guard knights were the best kings guard knights that ever served any king and he was trained by them on dragon stone. He was claimed to be an even better swordsman than Maegor.
@alphagamer9505
@alphagamer9505 Жыл бұрын
@@rhettzkie it wouldn't been boring
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 Жыл бұрын
Agree with your list. Dany is only 15 and has the potential to be the 1st. I would add Daemon the Rogue Prince too
@chriskareem5723
@chriskareem5723 Жыл бұрын
100% people complaining about it but she’s done a lot and like you said she’s only 15
@skinnypomegranate
@skinnypomegranate Жыл бұрын
@@Beaukieran i cant even argue against your points because I have no idea what you’re even saying.
@codehorror6743
@codehorror6743 Жыл бұрын
fact!! Daemon is a badass.
@steadydropnem
@steadydropnem Жыл бұрын
My list would be #1 Maegor the Cruel #2 Aemon the DragonKnight #3 Daemon the Rouge Prince
@jeffersonhassan4558
@jeffersonhassan4558 Жыл бұрын
@@steadydropnem y'all are just attracted to evil
@constantinetranos2225
@constantinetranos2225 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Daenerys was trained in swordfighting by Baristan, one of the greatest fighters of the Seven Kingdoms...She would have been overpowered...
@Hi-wi4pu
@Hi-wi4pu Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Daenerys has a lot of skills but there is no indication that she has any inclination towards physical fighting and she still is a young girl in the books
@joshuaadams6565
@joshuaadams6565 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling she may have to learn for the long night. Maybe Daenerys or Arya will wield dark sister? Jon could possibly teach her?
@constantinetranos2225
@constantinetranos2225 Жыл бұрын
@@Hi-wi4pu Arya is younger and she is turning into a fearless assassin...
@RhaevanHeims
@RhaevanHeims Жыл бұрын
@@Hi-wi4pu ever heard of Arya Stark?
@RhaevanHeims
@RhaevanHeims Жыл бұрын
All those time with Jorah and yet not a single sword fight lesson..... Pffffff
@TheDrexxus
@TheDrexxus Жыл бұрын
Westeros: Uh, you can't marry members of your family. Aegon Targaryen: Well i'm gonna, and you can't stop me. Westeros: Ok... Well, you can't marry more than one person at a time! Aegon Targaryen: Well i'm gonna, and you can't stop me. Westeros: Ok...... Well women can't rule, only men. Aegon Targaryen: ... That seems perfectly fine and reasonable and I will respect your culture. Visenya: >:|
@magister343
@magister343 10 ай бұрын
Women could and did rule in Westerosi culture, if they did not have any brothers. Jeyne Arryn and Rhea Royce were heirs who ruled in their own right. There are also many cases of widows being regents for their young sons.
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
@@magister343still not fair
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
Visenya> aegon
@jawadbakhshi31
@jawadbakhshi31 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day. Danny has 3 dragons while everyone before her had 1 dragon. She’s special in her own way
@tevincollins2869
@tevincollins2869 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@skinnypomegranate
@skinnypomegranate Жыл бұрын
Yes, but this video is from the perspective of the books-she’s only 15 in them. She hasn’t become anything near the dany we saw in GoT-YET
@jawadbakhshi31
@jawadbakhshi31 Жыл бұрын
@@skinnypomegranate at the end of the day she has 3 and everyone has one. Says most powerful GOT targaryens. Not sure if if you read it properly. Also doesn’t say before Danny. So not sure how you read it. Danny strongest of all time. If she didn’t have John snow the oath breaker near her then she would have been a long ruler. Also Danny is in the books. I mean idk I’m kinda confused what books you are specifically talking about. Danny would probably loose if she versed aegon but only cause of her dragons still being infants. My main point is she has 3 babies that are growing fast. She just needed time. Her situation against the white walkers ruined things. If not for that she would make everyone bend the knee. She started with nothing and look at what she accomplished all alone. Everyone before her got help. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️
@k8lemonade
@k8lemonade Жыл бұрын
@@jawadbakhshi31 her dragons were also the smallest in the entire history of game of thrones soooo ????
@jawadbakhshi31
@jawadbakhshi31 Жыл бұрын
@@k8lemonade they were also the youngest sooo????
@billychops1280
@billychops1280 Жыл бұрын
As the top 3 in my book I would put Daemon the Rogue prince simply because he carved out his own kingdom, was above the laws of everyone even he’s brother for the most part, and was the wonder and terror of his age, also he had the most war experience dragon at the time besides Vhagar but unlike Vhagar Aemond one eye was not experienced in war and relied on the size of his dragon alone, which is why he ultimately lost his army to the black as well as kings landing, my other 2 would be Jaeherys the first simply because of what he achieved and for how long he held power with virtually no rebellions from his lords, there was Borris baratheon but he didn’t exactly rise against him, he joined a dornish outlaw so technically he took part in an invasion as a traitor, but the rest of his reign was great and he did ride a formidable dragon who could only be rivalled by Dream fyre at the time, since all the other dragons except silverwing had no riders, and Allysane would never fight him, so he was the absolute power of his day, and my other one would be Aegon the conqueror and the only reason I put him over Visenya, is that to literally everyone else it didn’t matter that Visenya was still around, as soon as aegon died everyone basically revolted, and they were gunning for Aegons sons, even when Maegor, a much crueler version of his father mounted Balerion to stop the rebellions they persisted to the very end when they backed Jaeherys, they would never have done that with Aegon around.
@MichaelMedici61W2
@MichaelMedici61W2 Жыл бұрын
True, all very, very true
@minatodroger7890
@minatodroger7890 Жыл бұрын
True that you know your badass when the starks say I saw his grandsire in when talking about jaehearys. Aegons respect was that strong. Hell vickon greyjoy told his son he will always be aegon's man.
@sultan7433
@sultan7433 Жыл бұрын
He’s a top 4
@Tonius126
@Tonius126 Жыл бұрын
The blacks wasted the most dragons though. Greens were far more efficient.
@billychops1280
@billychops1280 Жыл бұрын
@@Tonius126 not really the greens basically had 3 dragons fit for fighting especially after Helaena’s went nuts and sunfyre literally almost died in a 1v2 battle and as a bonus Vhagar (the largest living dragon) was on sunfyres side, so that especially wasn’t really efficient, Daeron who rode Tessarion basically met no dragon opposition until addam Velaryon (or waters) fought him and Daeron died before ever getting to his dragon and his dragon died in that same battle, the only dragon that really lasted on the greens side was Vhagar and that was because of her size, Vermithor and silverwing were originally on the blacks but switched sides of course and silverwing was smart and lucky enough to get out of it unscathed, but Vermithor of course died because he was riderless and attacked all dragons around him, ultimately winning the fight even without a rider but he died of his wounds. The blacks lost 2 dragons to a fair fight those being Maelys and Caraxes, Vermax was hooked and cut open on a sea battle and Lucerys’s dragon was of course cut in half by Vhagar, sea smoke went out fight a 1v3 battle and did very well honestly even if he died, and syrax basically died fighting the mobs of kingslanding,, and so did dreamfyre, honestly the side that wasted the most were the greens because not only did they target smaller dragons from the beginning but also wild ones towards the end like grey ghost and possibly the cannibal but no one really knows about that one
@paulcato3434
@paulcato3434 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Your defense of each choice is very rational. I think Princess Rhaenyra also deserves honorable mention for the huge increase in dragons during her life that can't be a coincidence.
@franzreyes846
@franzreyes846 Жыл бұрын
Quite shocked Daemon Targaryen isn't up there but great video as always!
@mysteryjunkie9808
@mysteryjunkie9808 Жыл бұрын
Maegor the Cruel would be drinking from Daemon skull if they ever fought. Everything the Greens falsely accuse Daemon of being Maegor was.
@NRTHK-wv9sb
@NRTHK-wv9sb Жыл бұрын
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Maegor was so powerful that he was murdered on his own throne after all the kingdoms rose against him
@fargoflagrant7796
@fargoflagrant7796 Жыл бұрын
i love watching these videos, keep it up whycreate!
@Argos-xb8ek
@Argos-xb8ek Жыл бұрын
Maegor and Bloodraven gotta be up here
@mako7710
@mako7710 Жыл бұрын
Definitely maegor
@TastyGamingQc
@TastyGamingQc Жыл бұрын
About the fireproof thing. GRR Martin seems to have made it part of the Valerian package. In recent interviews for house of the dragon (about 2/3 weeks from the moment I make this comment) he said that certain houses in Valyria with blood magic intertwined their DNA with those of dragons to make their taming easier and could be the cause of some rare ones displaying the ability to resist high temperatures.
@tomperry5947
@tomperry5947 Жыл бұрын
Man i love these videos, really make me fall in love with this universe
@ethanharder5887
@ethanharder5887 Жыл бұрын
Good video bro. Keep the content up i always enjoy your stuff
@danybey4182
@danybey4182 Жыл бұрын
Before watching (and ranking based on ruling capability, political Suaveness, prowess as a warrior, power/Charisma they most likely exuded) picks off the top of my head: Aegon the conqueror, Visenya sister-wife of the conqueror, and Daemon the Rogue Prince (or Maegor) Edit: I agree with your picks for your videos criteria
@Balaji_G
@Balaji_G Жыл бұрын
Bloodraven and visenya definitely has a spot but daenerys definitely not
@rheanonjasmyne
@rheanonjasmyne Жыл бұрын
Skillshare sounds awesome, maybe IF I were about 30 years younger, but I can't draw a straight line with a ruler ! Visenya had Dark Sister, but I loved the idea of Rhaenys. In our D&D campaign my elven ranger has a Cooshee dog and I named her Visenya!
@damianhrnka9019
@damianhrnka9019 Жыл бұрын
In my vision of honorable mentions, there should be Jaehaerys the Old King. To be fair his rule took place during no real conflicts, however, if some conflict appeared, he immediately took care of it. Edit: It depends on what you consider as power. To me, it is sort of a combination of wisdom, discipline, experience, and capability, all of which Jaehaerys had.
@edwinsoto6932
@edwinsoto6932 Жыл бұрын
Definitely. In fact, I would argue Jaehaerys I deserves a spot in the top 3 far more than Daenerys. Jaehaerys I was an excellent warrior (said to have probably been able to defeat Maegor - arguably the greatest warrior of his time, and certainly one of the best - in combat), a gifted dragon rider with a very powerful mount, a shrewd and exceptional ruler, and a skilled negotiator, with (as you say) great wisdom (even in his early teens), experience, discipline, capability, and charisma.
@loplop019
@loplop019 Жыл бұрын
@@edwinsoto6932 definitely deserved top 3 easy
@ace93712
@ace93712 Жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it perfectly @whycreate . Especially, Visenya. Sure she wasn't as 'strong ' as Aegon but she was a versatile and terrifying ruler. A true queen on the chess board who could do almost anything she wanted
@vulcan387
@vulcan387 Жыл бұрын
Maegor could probably be a challenge up there as well.
@ace93712
@ace93712 Жыл бұрын
@@vulcan387 like mother like son. But it is implied that she ‘birthed’ maegor thru sorcery
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
She was better than aegon actually
@ursaber
@ursaber Жыл бұрын
Aegon I, Maegor I, Visenya, Prince Daemon, Jaehaerys I, Daeron I, Daeron II, Daenerys I
@alfredborden5675
@alfredborden5675 Жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite channel
@qwopiretyu
@qwopiretyu Жыл бұрын
Brynden Rivers. Best Targaryen isn't even a Targaryen by name
@venkatesanab.com.-computer4377
@venkatesanab.com.-computer4377 Жыл бұрын
Brynden is 100% up there......but imo I think Daemon The Rogue Prince also deserves a spot
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 Жыл бұрын
Strongest targ 1 aegon the conquer 2 visenya w vhagar 3 daemon w caraxes 4 rhanesys w meleys and sea snake fleet
@ousmanjallow7866
@ousmanjallow7866 Жыл бұрын
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@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 Жыл бұрын
Agree Dany with all three of her dragons against Aegon with his one massive black dragon would lose. Aegon with his Black dragon was just too powerful.
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503nope
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Rhaegar had a Dragon…he would’ve honestly been OP, he was also said to be one of the greatest fighters of his time.
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 Жыл бұрын
i don't know about a great fighter considering he got literally flatted by bobby B. honestly everything surrounding Rhaegar just sounds like either over blown rumors or complete lies. everyone of Rhaegar's actions completely contradict everything every targ supporter says of him.
@Applesols
@Applesols Жыл бұрын
Everything about rhaegar is literally a fairy tale it got in his head and he was smashed with the hammer of reality
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Жыл бұрын
@@Applesols Didn’t he damn near kill Robert that day, he badly wounded him before Robert even put a scratch on his armour, and Robert was also said to be an incredible warrior…Rhaegar was trained by one of the greatest swordsmen in the history of Westeros, that’s not a fairytale that’s a fact…I get that you don’t like him but to downplay him and call everything a fairytale when all the characters who literally knew him call him great is ridiculous, this isn’t some long lost ancestor that we know nothing but fairytales about, these are first hand accounts…calling them “fairytales” is utterly delusional. He was trained by the greatest swordsman in the seven kingdoms, he also beat everyone in that famous joust tourney where he gave the flowers to Lyanna, including Selmy. Rhaegar was a *great* Targaryen and no amount of downplaying changes that, the reverence to which people who knew him recall him is a testament to it. *”Swords win battles,” Ser Jorah said bluntly. “And Prince Rhaegar knew how to use one.” Barristan and Jorah seem to agree that Rhaegar was very capable and very dangerous.*
@Applesols
@Applesols Жыл бұрын
@@Ivbo all you said about rhaegar became pointless the moment he died, this is westeros and one stray arrow means death regardless of all his feats and training
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Жыл бұрын
@@Applesols So going by your logic, Ser Arthur Dayne doesn’t matter and isn’t the greatest swordsman literally ever because he died in battle…what is this line of thinking. Every great character ever died one way or another, as far as I’m concerned the ones that died in battle with a sword in their hand are the hardest and strongest of them all. If Rhaegar had a Dragon, he would’ve probably been the most well rounded and most dangerous of the lot. He easily had the best Kingsguard ever - Ser Arthur Dayne, Prince Lewyn Martell, Ser Jonothor Darry, Ser Gerold Hightower, Ser Oswell Whent, Ser Barristan Selmy and Ser Jaime Lannister…he was also himself a great warrior and swordsman, he was kind and well liked among all. Now, if you add a large Dragon onto all that he basically tops all the previous Targaryen’s.
@googleuser244
@googleuser244 Жыл бұрын
3:- Visenya 2:-Brynden Rivers 1:- Daemon the Rougue Prince
@-JT-543
@-JT-543 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Aegon would have Visenya’s spot - he actually has the lords allegiance if he died without an heir they wouldn’t follow her. + has Balerion the black dread
@ousmanjallow7866
@ousmanjallow7866 Жыл бұрын
w
@lawrencereid2767
@lawrencereid2767 Жыл бұрын
Great one sir
@sankarkrishnan407
@sankarkrishnan407 Жыл бұрын
Perfect choices. Bloodraven is more powerful because he had both the blood of Valyria and Firstmen.
@anamkhan2603
@anamkhan2603 Жыл бұрын
I think Daemon Targaryen “King of the stepstones & Narrow sea, Prince of the city, lord of flea bottom, Founder of the Gold cloaks, Wielder of dark sister, rider of Caraxes, and the rogue prince who took down Vhagar" should be a part of this list. I would definitely vote for him among the top 3.
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
Nope
@vanessaamesty6739
@vanessaamesty6739 Жыл бұрын
Perfect list!
@orashfordfranklin5814
@orashfordfranklin5814 Жыл бұрын
A list of most powerful Targaryens without Aegon the conqueror is no list.
@joaovictorsimianersoder7514
@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't even the more powerful of his siblings lol
@orashfordfranklin5814
@orashfordfranklin5814 Жыл бұрын
@@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 yh sure
@AaronGuest
@AaronGuest Жыл бұрын
@@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Says who?
@joaovictorsimianersoder7514
@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 Жыл бұрын
@@AaronGuest Joe
@andrewmcdonald6450
@andrewmcdonald6450 Жыл бұрын
​@@joaovictorsimianersoder7514 There's nothing that proves that. Visenya is said to almost be on par with with Aegon as a warrior, but even then I would still give Aegon the advantage with strength and having more experience in fights.(we don't see lots of times where visenya is fighting without here dragon besides the dorne assassin event) I would agree that she is defiantly more martial and decisive than Aegon but not really as a warrior as fair as we know.
@nicholasy140
@nicholasy140 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@DDLLDDLLDDLL
@DDLLDDLLDDLL Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see you do more “3 most powerful “(Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, etc)
@TheDeadlyKnight
@TheDeadlyKnight Жыл бұрын
Meraxes was larger than Vhagar when they were contemporaries. Vhagar at death had grown larger than Meraxes was & nearly was as large as The Black Dread
@xrexi4366
@xrexi4366 Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't it wasn't even close to half his size
@Vlad95Chad
@Vlad95Chad Жыл бұрын
No, Balerion is the only dragon that was born before the Doom
@nottellingyou14
@nottellingyou14 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos because they’re short and well done.
@ray5330
@ray5330 Жыл бұрын
2:30 is that World of Westeros who joined the voice chat? lol
@kaleye3989
@kaleye3989 Жыл бұрын
I never have been 100% about this but the way I read it, Rhaenys didn't die, she was captured. That's why Dorne managed to maintain their independence - Having her as a hostage
@Ittheyzezermeowpurr
@Ittheyzezermeowpurr Жыл бұрын
You think they would have let her stay hostage ? I think they would have demolished Dorne . But , everyone saw her fall off the dragon and die . Don’t you love that as much as we read , watch lore videos. And throw ideas together that the world is so great that we can’t know for sure on some things.
@mellohi2899
@mellohi2899 Жыл бұрын
i think Dorne maintained their independence because they have a strong homogenous culture and they were unyielding. Aegon was mourning and tired of fighting
@dankaczor8965
@dankaczor8965 Жыл бұрын
I know the lord commander of the kingsguard is rather important during the Dance of the Dragons. I wouldn’t mind seeing what you think are the most influential and/or noteworthy lord commanders.
@AF-hv4yy
@AF-hv4yy Жыл бұрын
Well made list! Interesting that Visenya's tools/artifacts end up with complicated characters. (i.e. Vhagar with Aemond, Dark Sister ending up with Daemon & Brynden). Hopefully we get more material with her
@WarriorGirl_113
@WarriorGirl_113 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this vid!!! Thank's =-)
@randy42000
@randy42000 Жыл бұрын
1. aemon the dragonknight, possibly the best ever with a sword. 2. Maegor the cruel, the only survivor of the craziest 7v7 trial by combat ever....and had balerion. 3.Bloodraven, who might move up as we learn more about his powers, in both the main series and the dunk and egg series. Tough to rank, you could argue that anyone who didn't ride a dragon shouldn't be considered.
@ilbhaley79
@ilbhaley79 Жыл бұрын
I think maegor may have been brought back by some kind of black magic. he was down for like 7 day afterwards.
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel Жыл бұрын
Bloodraven 100%
@randy42000
@randy42000 Жыл бұрын
@@ilbhaley79 I just re-read that and thought the same, it could certainly played a factor in his inability to have kids
@user-kq5ci7ol8o
@user-kq5ci7ol8o Жыл бұрын
@@randy42000 Actually, it's explicitly stated that the reason was cause one of his many wives kept poisoning the others, and this was proven by them saying "I already poisoned the one that is currently pregnant, so they're also gonna have a short lived abomination for a kid" and that was exactly what happened, so that's the more likely explanation, however, explanations for why he couldn't have kids aside (It does seem like being resurrected affects you more mentally than physically most of the time tbh), this might up Visenyas's placement given that it's theorized that she herself was the one who brought him back to like, combine that with the fact that she spent a lot of time alone doing whatever, that many people that she wanted dead died under mysterious circumstances even if she couldn't directly get her hands on them, and that she somehow outlived all her siblings despite being the oldest one (I mean, Rhaenys is whatever, but outliving Aegon for almost a decade is seen as suspicious within lore, however I guess you can explain this away with her being healthier and having more will power?), and I think that the rumors of dark magic weren't just rumors, which does beg the question, how powerful was it?
@randy42000
@randy42000 Жыл бұрын
@@user-kq5ci7ol8o The more we learn about Visenya, the more we learn how much of a bad ass she was. We, unfortunately, don't know how OP she was with dark magic or with sword; she very well could be #1
@jay_ooh
@jay_ooh Жыл бұрын
I named my dog "Visenya" because of her....she was such an amazing Targaryen...hopefully "House of the Dragon" will give her more interest and exposure!
@AlexanderFromKC
@AlexanderFromKC Жыл бұрын
HoD takes place 100 years after the conquest, so she might be mentioned due to her being a strong female figure, but I doubt she’ll get much exposure. Great character though, literally created the idea behind the White Cloaks.
@Alan-xg4yr
@Alan-xg4yr Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderFromKC the only exposure she got till now that she had the same sword as daemon ( dark sister)
@iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290
@iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290 Жыл бұрын
@@Alan-xg4yr and that rhaenyra wanted to name her child and sibling Visenya.
@TchallaShakur
@TchallaShakur Жыл бұрын
Very good list.
@keirangrant1607
@keirangrant1607 Жыл бұрын
Maegor might have saved the Targaryen dynasty. They were on the ropes there for a bit with the Faith, until Meager brought it to them and changed the Faith's stance on Targ marriages. But I like your list. I like that you included the more powerful Targaryens. Some people tend to overlook the women. And honestly you could have had an all female most powerful and most people would agree with your list.
@distantraveller9876
@distantraveller9876 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Maegor's ruthlessness combined with Balerion's firepower alone should earn him 1st spot. Maegor is basically the male equivalent of Cersei but with dragons, dude was insanely OP.
@b_de_silva
@b_de_silva Жыл бұрын
Ehhh no he didn't, he almost ended Targaryen rule, his nephew aegon would have been a much better ruler than him, he was a good warrior and wasn't a maniac, Aegon was definitely not weak like his father aenys and wouldn't bow down to the faith, maegor is an usurper and a kinslayer who proved that being a strong ruler, being a good warrior and having a massive dragon doesn't matter when everyone around you hates youd.
@keirangrant1607
@keirangrant1607 Жыл бұрын
@@b_de_silva I mean, thats your opinion and I appreciate it. When a king's lords and clergy are rebelling he has to make an example of someone to get them back in line. Aegon was being disrespected my his minor lords even and did nothing about it. Maegor got rid of the most extreme element of the Faith and pacified the realm. Being a king is not a popularity contest. And he didnt almost end Targ rule because they put another Tag on the throne after him. How in the world is that "almost ended Targ rule"?
@b_de_silva
@b_de_silva Жыл бұрын
@@keirangrant1607 "he put another targ on the throne after him" are you serious? he was being deposed and was going to ride out to kill Jaehaerys as well, he didn't put Jaehaerys in the throne, Jaehaerys took it from him because nobody wanted maegor as king.
@keirangrant1607
@keirangrant1607 Жыл бұрын
@@b_de_silva I didnt say "he put another tag on the throne after him", I said "they", as in all of the Targaryen supporters. And Jaehaerys had a lot less to contend with when he was crowned. Fire Ball was all but shattered. He broke down crying when he realized the crown wanted peace. Maegor broke him
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 Жыл бұрын
0:20 Visenya Targaryen looks like actress Liz May Brice. I am looking forward to House of the Dragon and seeing Matt Smith in action for the first time as Daemon Targaryen.
@psyched3lic347
@psyched3lic347 Жыл бұрын
Visenya is the Athena of the Targaryens and The Game of Thrones. She gets the job done and doesn't care about anything else but her family and the war. That is also why she lived for a while. I can't believe that all these characters was born from George R.R. Martin's mind. Amazing.
@apollorushing3611
@apollorushing3611 Жыл бұрын
I love this content
@rrated4063
@rrated4063 Жыл бұрын
Blood raven is so bad ass. One true king.
@hardiksolanki8093
@hardiksolanki8093 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this list. Some real OGs up here.
@TheRarook
@TheRarook Жыл бұрын
Glad to see so many other fans of Visenya in this comments sections.
@liliman-moli615
@liliman-moli615 Жыл бұрын
You know what I don't quite understand, why everybody loves what Aegon did, conquerer 7th kingdoms by fire and blood, and condemn "Daenarys' madness", are the same thing though , both are conquerors not rulers. Rulers were his sisters, Daenarys needs faithful parteners.
@wyattrota9070
@wyattrota9070 Жыл бұрын
I feel like aegon should be on the list
@MiscellaneousAB
@MiscellaneousAB Жыл бұрын
I'm confused to why people would question you listing Visenya as one of the most powerful targs...maybe I'm missing something...
@archeogeek315
@archeogeek315 Жыл бұрын
I personally think it’s because of Maegor existence in thermes of power he outclass her in fighting and in dragon riding.
@MiscellaneousAB
@MiscellaneousAB Жыл бұрын
@@archeogeek315 That maybe so, but still, that wouldn't nullify Visenya's power...if anything, Maegor's power would seemingly add to hers. She still deserves to be considered one of the most powerful targs.
@archeogeek315
@archeogeek315 Жыл бұрын
@@MiscellaneousAB She is one of the most powerfull Targarien, but I don't see why Maegor's power would add to hers it's like saying her power add's to Agons power. It dosen't make any sense when we are talking about individual power.
@MiscellaneousAB
@MiscellaneousAB Жыл бұрын
@@archeogeek315 LOL I guess we'll have to disagree because I definitely think her power adds to Aegon...I mean they conquered together with Rhaneys. Simple Teamwork. Individually, none of this matters and Visenya STILL is one of the most powerful targs without anyone's help, regardless if the other two guys are powerful on their own. Again, It shouldn't have been questioned, as I stated in my original comment. She would definitely be missed in the story if she was never a part of the conquest. And Maegor would even exist lol.
@noe842
@noe842 5 ай бұрын
@@archeogeek315lol how do you know? he was not as smart and as powerful in fact he would probably be dead if she was not there (dark magic)
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it was that Aegon was “just that likeable” as much as they didn’t want to be Harren Hoare’d 😹
@db4517
@db4517 Жыл бұрын
Visenya bloodraven and maegor are the srongest all three were great warriors, commanders and had connections to magic
@marilyndafeta3064
@marilyndafeta3064 Жыл бұрын
Daenerys will ALWAYS be the strongest!🔥🔥👌✌️
@skyelerknight6509
@skyelerknight6509 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Aemon the dragon knight should’ve been up there but that’s just me
@tristanlanphere7736
@tristanlanphere7736 Жыл бұрын
same. One of the best duelists to ever live. Daemon Blackfyre's also great
@prashant10.
@prashant10. Жыл бұрын
Aegon’ conquest with Henry Cavill as Aegon and Angelina Jolie as Visenya and Margot Robbie as Rhaenys.
@michaelclark4062
@michaelclark4062 Жыл бұрын
If aegons conquest comes to tv I'd like eva green to play visenya she's got ruthlessness in spades after seeing her in 300 rise of a empire and i could picture her with silver hair
@Rhys-jd1kt
@Rhys-jd1kt Жыл бұрын
2:29 spooky. I thought I heard a ghost🤣🤣🍺👍
@crystalpistey-lyhne3406
@crystalpistey-lyhne3406 Жыл бұрын
Visenya reminds of many Celtic and English Queens and Catrina OF Aaragon Or Morgana Of Camelot!🤔😱🤗💪👸
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel Жыл бұрын
1. Aegon +Visenya + Rhaenys 2. Jaehaerys I + Alysanne 3. Bloodraven
@mysteryjunkie9808
@mysteryjunkie9808 Жыл бұрын
Maegor the Cruel not on here? Dude was a perfect mix of Aegon and Viseyna
@magister343
@magister343 10 ай бұрын
We don't know much about him other that his name and appellation, but I have a feeling Gaemon the Glorious must have been very powerful to have earned that name.
@brianlindee220
@brianlindee220 Жыл бұрын
they should do a show on this given the popularity of house of the dragon
@francisabellana445
@francisabellana445 Жыл бұрын
Guess that answers why Visenya is a heroine of Arya Stark
@bharat4956
@bharat4956 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for HOD
@JeremyIceAndFire33
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Vhagar was actually the 3rd biggest Dragon, Balerion & Maraxes were the bigger two with Vhagar being the smallest of the three.
@chriskareem5723
@chriskareem5723 Жыл бұрын
it’s said by the time of the dance of dragons that Vhagar grew to Balerions size though
@JeremyIceAndFire33
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
@@chriskareem5723 true, but by then Balerion & Meraxes were both already dead. When all 3 were alive, Vhagar was the smallest of the 3
@chriskareem5723
@chriskareem5723 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 yes you’re right but if you’re on about the 3rd biggest of all time, then technically Maraxes would’ve been the 3rd biggest as Maraxes never grew to Balerions size in contrast to Vhagar who did grow to Balerions size.
@JeremyIceAndFire33
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
@@chriskareem5723 true, but it's kind of a false comparison, we have no idea how big Meraxes would've been if she hadn't been killed far earlier than Vhagar
@chriskareem5723
@chriskareem5723 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 yes true BUT it’s likely if all dragons lived as long as Balerion and Vhagar then they’d grow to their sizes, measuring there sizes is mostly taken at the biggest they grew hence why Balerion and Vhagar are the biggest/grew to be the largest. Meraxes would’ve definitely grew to Balerions and Vhagars size but seeing as Meraxes died we can only measure her size based on how big she grew to in comparison to Vhagar who grew to bigger as she lived longer
@steadydropnem
@steadydropnem Жыл бұрын
My list would be #1 Maegor the Cruel #2 Aemon the DragonKnight #3 Daemon the Rouge Prince
@i.turn.tables6455
@i.turn.tables6455 Жыл бұрын
Visenya looks nearly identical to Dee in “IASIP” in the art.
@siyarg.4900
@siyarg.4900 Жыл бұрын
I dont know how to feel about Visenya over Aegon... Because if we're including their soldiers/people yada yada yada, Aegon comes with Visenya, ultimately she did serve him (+ he'd also come with the whole of conquered Westeros). Buy 1 get a FUCK-ton for free
@jeshurundaniel794
@jeshurundaniel794 Жыл бұрын
We're talking about skill
@playea123
@playea123 Жыл бұрын
1. Aegon I 2. Jaehaerys I 3. Visenya
@christiangeorge5867
@christiangeorge5867 Жыл бұрын
You’re the smoothest talking person ever dude.
@Hash_kw
@Hash_kw Жыл бұрын
i hope we see a spinoff of the blackfyre rebellion
@luisjuarez7291
@luisjuarez7291 Жыл бұрын
Visenya looking like Dee Reynolds in the thumbnail
@dennisyoungblood7752
@dennisyoungblood7752 Жыл бұрын
The Three Eyed Raven is show only, in the books, he is the Three Eyed Crow. Great video though
@AnonyMous-vs2tq
@AnonyMous-vs2tq Жыл бұрын
Hi at 2:30 there’s background audio that distracts the viewer from your dialogue for a few seconds.
@lawrencereid2767
@lawrencereid2767 Жыл бұрын
Daemon should be in the top ten
@RaptorRocka
@RaptorRocka Жыл бұрын
Lol Jamie coming in to talk over you
@AlerieHightower
@AlerieHightower Жыл бұрын
Visenya is my girl! I hope we get to see her onscreen at some point. The only cosplay I've ever done was as Queen V at Con of Thrones in 2019.
@RegTarg011
@RegTarg011 Жыл бұрын
I think Bloodraven killed the Blackfyre, so he can be sentenced to death/send to the wall. Pretty sure he told Egg that this 'must be', as well.. Seen the glimpse of future.
@plokamias_
@plokamias_ Жыл бұрын
Good vid. Did not appreciate the long ad in the middle of thevid.
@Zehahahaa
@Zehahahaa Жыл бұрын
Brynden Rivers was so OP without having a dragon
@sakethvelikanti3917
@sakethvelikanti3917 Жыл бұрын
lord bloodraven needs a series of his own. he is the only Targaryen to have the northmen blood and thus have greenseer abilities. only jonsnow could be more cooler if he gets to ride a dragon along with having green sight
@nikdik154
@nikdik154 Жыл бұрын
Daemon should he here. Any day.
@KatarHero72
@KatarHero72 Жыл бұрын
My top 7 in no order were Aegon, Visenya, Jaeherys, Daemon, Bloodraven, Daenerys, and Aemond.
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 Жыл бұрын
you forgot about the long lost Targaryan who instead of using dragon iconography he uses a hawk and leads a mercenary band and totally did nothing wrong.........oh wait wrong dark fantasy series.
@raysha9932
@raysha9932 Жыл бұрын
This is the show i would love to watch so bad i want to see some Targeryan women fighting with a sword
@willy.b.b3427
@willy.b.b3427 Жыл бұрын
Defining power in this context is kinda tricky. So instead I decided to define power in three different ways and see who is the most powerful in that specific context. Aegon targaryan, for military/political power. The guy was like a westeros Jesus, he just showd up and put the fear of God into everyone on an entire continent. Aemon the dragonknight, for personal power/prowess. I don't know if there is another person who could beat him in single in the history of westeros. He probably surpasses Arthur dayne and barristan selmy in terms of skill. He's still looked up to as the perfect Knight 150 years after his death. Bloodraven for alternative/mystical power. The guy had an insane spy network. His spy network shames varys', on top of that he was certainly magically inclined. Being able to become a Greenseer is something only a handful of people in westeros history have done. Honorable mentions. That lady who saw the destruction of valeria coming. Or maybe blew up valeria herself, she's the only reason the targaryans didn't die with the rest of the dragon riders. Visenya, kinda just a diet aegon? She may have been smarter and whatnot, but historically she's a side character to aegon for a reason, she never wielded the same power as he did. Danaerys, a young up and comer, it'll be hard not to put her in the top three if and when she reclaims westeros. But she's like 15 or something? Do it for longer Danny and we can start talking.
@noe842
@noe842 Жыл бұрын
It’s only because she was a woman, she was not taken as seriously as argon, not because he as more leadership
@ethancash899
@ethancash899 Жыл бұрын
do you think the 3 eyed raven is capable of his feats bc of his blood? bc while he may be formidable, i kinda feel like him being a targaryen is just a cool side thing
@beyreli3988
@beyreli3988 Жыл бұрын
I always thought of him more Blackwood then Targaryen
@MrDavidSosa
@MrDavidSosa Жыл бұрын
Daenerys can resist fire, is one of her abilities and she did it twice in the show, is well know that she is a very magical character.
@Yuno-rr5bw
@Yuno-rr5bw Жыл бұрын
Only in the show. In the books Dany was never fire proof it only occurred once. During Drogo's funeral pyre in which blood magic was involved because she burned the witch together with Drogo and the magic that the dragon eggs contributed.
@stass2933
@stass2933 Жыл бұрын
Not in the books, in the books was one time thing at the pyre due to blood magic, but she still can burn
@MrDavidSosa
@MrDavidSosa Жыл бұрын
@@stass2933 but she did it again, when she killed the other Dothraki, Daenerys touched a hot torch and she resisted, this is why I don’t believe what your saying. Is not a “one thing”
@nikesh9157
@nikesh9157 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDavidSosa that happened only in the show
@continentalextinction
@continentalextinction Жыл бұрын
the video is about the books
@tylercruse2402
@tylercruse2402 Жыл бұрын
Bloodraven was most likely in contact with Euron
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 Жыл бұрын
Aemond 'Dragon knight', Daemon and Aegon I.
@zora508
@zora508 Жыл бұрын
Dorne is so badass in the books I wish it was more interesting in the show
@jezebulls
@jezebulls Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, is it really true that Daenerys was only able to ride one of her dragons?? I don’t know how I missed this in the show. So she was only able to ride Drogon, but not Rhaegal and Viserion?
@kamenballer
@kamenballer Жыл бұрын
I think that's the rule of the Dragons in GoT, Dragons can have more than 1 rider in their lifetime but a Dragon Rider can only ride 1 dragon. Perfect example is King Viserys in HotD, he only rode Balerion the dread which is also the Dragon of Aegon when he conquered the 7 kingdoms and Viserys never have another Dragon again after Balerion died from old age.
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