The Arrogant Pilot Who Crashed His Passenger Jet | Airblue Flight 202

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This is the story of air blue flight 202. On the 28th of july 2010 one of air blues a321s was to fly from karachi to benazir bhutto international airport near islamabad . In the morning at 2;41 am UTC the plane was being prepped for departure. Within a short span of time the 146 passengers were settled in and at 2:52 am utc or 8 am local time, the plane took off. As the plane climbed into the cloudy skies of Pakistan the passengers were severed warm tea and croissants, in the cockpit the captain started quizzing the first officer on his flying knowledge. This didnt go too well. The captain was quite harsh with his reprimanding and used quite a snobbish tone with the first officer. Look a bit of quizzing is probably good it keeps everyone on their toes with respect to procedures and facts about the airplane and the route that they were flying. But this went far beyond that, the report calls what the captain did a humiliation session their words not mine. This cycle of quizzing and then berating the first officer went on for a bit, an hour to be precise. After all of that the first officer was quiet and submissive.
When they were 155 NM from islamabad, the pilots tuned into the ATIS a broadcast that constantly broadcasts important information about the airport, in this case they got to knew that the runway in use was 12, the crew then discussed the waypoints that they'd use to get to runway 12. They also checked the weather at the airport and at their diversion airports. The captain was then told that hed have to do whats known as a circling approach. In this case the captain would line up with runway 30 using the ILS then once near the runway he would turn to the right then circle the airport by making left turns which would put them exactly where they needed to be to line up with runway 12. That sounds quite simple but this circling approach was an intricate dance of timing precision and speed. To make this approach happen you had to break off from the approach to runway 30 to the right at just the right time, then you had to fly for exactly 30 seconds after that turn left to fly parallel to the runway for exactly 20 seconds then when youre abeam of the threshold of runway 12 you had to turn left and line up with the runway. Mess anything up and youd end up far away from the runway. The thing is you had to have the airport in sight at all times when you made these left turns. If you lost sight of the airport you had to go around no questions asked. The flight path is more of a wonky rectangle than a circle but I guess the term works. The captain decided that tonight hed be flying the circling approach with the plane in the nav mode. In the NAV mode the plane just follows the flight path that youve programmed into the computer and so the captain asked the first officer to program in a few waypoints into the flight management system, the thing is they weren't supposed to use these waypoints it was not authorized, the planned flight path was much wider than the prescribed approach but the beaten down first officer never protested.
At 3:57 am the captain briefed the landing procedure with the first officer he wanted to land using the right hand downwind procedure, the landing procedure that was much wider than the correct procedure. As the descent progressed the captain requested a right hand downwind approach to runway 12. The controller rejected his request because of limitations at the time the captain acknowledged this. Soon the plane was on the ILS for runway 30 and the controller cleared them to descend and to perform the circling approach to runway 12. The captain asked about the right hand approach again, the controller again told him that a right hand approach was not doable at the time.

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@iAPX432
@iAPX432 2 жыл бұрын
As a Captain, the First officer isn't a subordinate, he is or she is your best asset.
@elite76
@elite76 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just call me an "it"? :P
@iAPX432
@iAPX432 2 жыл бұрын
@@elite76 my apologize: English Third Language, and sometimes...
@The_Original_forresttrump
@The_Original_forresttrump 2 жыл бұрын
Not in India or Pakistan.
@Aris-tc9qy
@Aris-tc9qy 2 жыл бұрын
@The fastest milkman in the West A captain shouldn't berate and degrade a first officer for over an hour
@Evolution14387
@Evolution14387 2 жыл бұрын
@The fastest milkman in the West am glad those types of captain dies early and open more jobs thx
@thelatiosmaster
@thelatiosmaster 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of accidents that really piss me off: everyone died just for one single man thinking to be superior to everyone. What a stupid waste of lives!
@citizenkane2349
@citizenkane2349 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Pakistan!
@jostmathe
@jostmathe 2 жыл бұрын
another version of the crash, it shows more things kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdCfqteIprW-iWQ.html
@sadababyyyyy_
@sadababyyyyy_ 2 жыл бұрын
VERY DUMB
@billmartin4093
@billmartin4093 2 жыл бұрын
@@citizenkane2349 It has nothing to do with countries mate. Similar accidents happen elsewhere too, in various manners, such as Germanwings, where a pilot deliberately crashed a jet or an Italian airline.
@PanGalacticGargoyleBlaster
@PanGalacticGargoyleBlaster Жыл бұрын
@@billmartin4093 you are correct, and with so much racism around it is a very fair point to make - but I will say that I have read a bit about this case and heard from a few pakistani people and even people from nearby areas that share some particular cultural similarities that this may have had a lot to do with the culture surrounding authority and seniority. Just something to consider, although this is not really my place to be saying as I am neither pakistani nor surrounding, but where I grew up in asia I saw a some of it. It is a kind of expectance for devout and unquestioning reverence for seniority and authority (often the two are even interchangeable). It would be interesting to hear more about this and in depth from people who can speak on it.
@Majima_Nowhere
@Majima_Nowhere 2 жыл бұрын
What pisses me off the most, is that the captain died thinking that it was the plane's fault, not his.
@jamesoncurry5224
@jamesoncurry5224 2 жыл бұрын
i think he knew it was himself... but was too arrogant to admit it.
@mofleh177
@mofleh177 2 жыл бұрын
Or probably the hill's fault, what were they doing there anyway?!
@paradoxvalestein9118
@paradoxvalestein9118 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? It was obviously the mountain's fault. Why would it stands in his way of flight???
@Yesnt0073
@Yesnt0073 Жыл бұрын
@@paradoxvalestein9118 You've never been on an airplane or watched the entire vide
@Bangtanatrash
@Bangtanatrash Жыл бұрын
@@Yesnt0073 there’s this funny thing called sarcasm
@patrickdurham8393
@patrickdurham8393 2 жыл бұрын
I worked with a Master plumber who had that type of attitude. He got crushed to death by a bundle of cast iron pipe after telling an apprentice who'd just warned him about an overhead load to "STFU, if I want your opinion I'll give it to you!" I didn't laugh but I didn't cry either.
@terryofford4977
@terryofford4977 2 жыл бұрын
Well summed up, sadly however, there are a number of National Types whose very existence is based on the ALPHA 'maleness', an attitude which curtails any and all opposition to such a person's thinking, & attitudes,
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Жыл бұрын
and then everyone clapped
@patrickdurham8393
@patrickdurham8393 Жыл бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim The pipe weighed over 1500lbs and fell from 20 feet so there was no clapping involved.
@ura9390
@ura9390 2 ай бұрын
horrible situation, as much as we all are appalled by these types of insufferable people's attitudes and arrogance, its a horrific end for him, traumatic for those on site and a tragedy for a family who are blameless are bereaved by his aggression
@Ronin_marine
@Ronin_marine 2 ай бұрын
@@ura9390I’m a firm believer in karma. I think it’s a wonderful story.
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 2 жыл бұрын
"The main problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt!"
@gudboy2222
@gudboy2222 2 жыл бұрын
True
@androidemulator6952
@androidemulator6952 2 жыл бұрын
..also look up "Dunning-Kruger effect" . .where people who think they are smart, but don't know how dumb/uniformed/clueless they really are.. .
@androidemulator6952
@androidemulator6952 2 жыл бұрын
also the saying "There are no old, bold pilots.." Your either one or the other- very unlikely both..
@blotski
@blotski 2 жыл бұрын
I may use that quote. It's perfect.
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 2 жыл бұрын
@@blotski George Bernard Shaw!
@blerst7066
@blerst7066 2 жыл бұрын
First officer: You shouldn't do that. Controller: You shouldn't do that. Captain: How about I do anyway?
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r72Ff6aXr5i0d3U.html
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitehawk86 XD exactly what I was about to comment.
@mauricedavis8261
@mauricedavis8261 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, hubris raises its ugly head once again!!!🙏🛬😪
@jaywulf
@jaywulf 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it is cultural. Any Pakistanis?
@uncle1670
@uncle1670 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaywulf yes, I’m a Pakistani You think we are terrorists? Indeed, No one gives a fuck about what you think If it was an American pilot, you never would have said that.
@MilitaryNetwork
@MilitaryNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
First officer of this flight was a retire F16 pilot from the PAF, a very polite and humble soul known in his squadron. He took early retirement after some medical issues, but he was a brilliant fighter pilot and in Pakistan,if you make it to the F16s, you are simply best of the best. This captain however had no military background and was exactly as described
@sriranga9907
@sriranga9907 Жыл бұрын
The first officer is equally responsible as he was not opposing the captain and gone along with most of captains decisions. This made the second opinion worthless and lead to crash.
@khalid_tahir
@khalid_tahir Жыл бұрын
CAPTAIN fault
@xeldinn86
@xeldinn86 Жыл бұрын
Now he took a permanent retirement into the side of the mountain
@virginiaviola5097
@virginiaviola5097 Жыл бұрын
Obviously the Captain felt intimidated by having a real pilot sat next to him, and dealt with it in the worst possible way.. by pulling rank and not accepting that his right seat colleague wasn’t his subordinate to be dominated but his back up system. It is so sad that the second officer was such a humble man, and allowed this knucklehead to fly not just him but an entire plane full of people way off course and into a mountain. One should really consider the co-pilot to be the passenger’s advocate.. that the safety and the well-being of the plane and the passengers is ultimately in their hands when they can see that the Captain is screwing up, giving them the courage to take charge. I’ve seen a few accidents where the SO has made a critical observation to the PIC only to have it brushed off or ignored. I can’t quite fathom how it must feel to just sit there and accept death when it was within your ability but not your authority to avert it.
@wildncrazyguy21
@wildncrazyguy21 Жыл бұрын
Cant the first officer grab the controls and take over himself?
@mellownuance
@mellownuance 2 жыл бұрын
As a Pakistani, I would have never learnt it from within Pakistan. Thank You, love your work!
@prash175
@prash175 2 жыл бұрын
Guess what, as per report 90% of the Pakistani pilots posses fake license. They acquired them illegally. Few of them have been suspended as well but not everyone. Fly at your own risk btw. Better opt for another mode of traveling.👍
@cupofjoen
@cupofjoen 2 жыл бұрын
Third world countries wouldn't want to learn it unless countries around the world start dissing them to embarrassment lack of logic and transparency.
@iftyrehman157
@iftyrehman157 2 жыл бұрын
@@prash175 I don’t think that comment does any justice because Pakistani pilots have taught the whole of Middle East and built their airforce from scratch. The likes of emirates and eithad were originally taught by Pakistani pilot. So please don’t make false statements.
@a.s.bhullar3602
@a.s.bhullar3602 2 жыл бұрын
@@iftyrehman157 he speak about present situation of pakistan because in pakistan your minister accept this and everybody know in pakistan you have money then you buy certificate from schools college universities and diploma degrees colleges even your one minister said on national media degree is degree even its fake or real . And you said about tought middle east pilots at that time pakistan have experienced pilots which are pass out from western countries and they are real pilots . Just except that truth bro
@affan3095
@affan3095 2 жыл бұрын
@@a.s.bhullar3602 I think Same is in other countries also
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 2 жыл бұрын
I find it really frustrating that so many of these pilots, when things go wrong, keep turning knobs. Grab the yoke and fly the plane yourself! You can worry about why the autopilot wasn't doing what you expected once you're on the ground.
@rich7787
@rich7787 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@aarondynamics1311
@aarondynamics1311 2 жыл бұрын
He could have solved this so easily by disconnecting the autopilot, applying TOGA thrust and pulling full aft on the sidestick. On an Airbus the terrain escape manoeuvre really is that simple
@Morpheus-pt3wq
@Morpheus-pt3wq 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissists don´t take the easiest solutions, just as they don´t listen to anyone other than themselves. He took the most complicated way as to prove to his 1st officer and (which is more important) to himself, how professional and capable he is. In the end, he was the victim of is own ego.
@bobkile9734
@bobkile9734 2 жыл бұрын
2,500 ft just isn’t a good altitude for troubleshooting your autopilot.
@hack1n8r
@hack1n8r 2 жыл бұрын
In an Airbus, it's not as simple as grabbing the yoke (side joystick, in this case), but yes, pilots absolutely should disconnect the A/P if the plane's automation isn't behaving as expected. The truth is that some pilots really don't know how to manually fly their bird. This is partly the reason why some automation-related accidents happen. The arrogant pilot was in reality a fool who made himself appear smart by demeaning others. People like him are a real danger to the safety of others, and it's their smugness that gets people killed. If I were assigned to fly with an arrogant dismissive captain such as this, I would refuse to fly with him and likewise raise concern for the safety of the passengers. So sad that those people perished at the hands of an arrogant idiot...
@briangibbs3774
@briangibbs3774 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that the crash was completely due to the captain's insufferable arrogance. In my personal experience, those most arrogant have the least reason to be so.
@smorris12
@smorris12 2 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly
@Eric_Hutton.1980
@Eric_Hutton.1980 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the line in the movie The Hunt For Red October when the one Russian submarine officer says to his captain, "You arrogant ass you've killed us all."
@Ronin4614
@Ronin4614 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, Brian.
@AlEtteso
@AlEtteso 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@rogeratygc7895
@rogeratygc7895 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. His bad character made him unfit for his profession or perhaps any other.
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 2 жыл бұрын
Classic case of crashing the ship to prove you're the captain.
@memesofproduction3
@memesofproduction3 2 жыл бұрын
This culture of obsessing over seniority, asserting dominance and being the 'Alpha male' is a major problem in eastern countries.
@depalandepalan1911
@depalandepalan1911 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@terryofford4977
@terryofford4977 2 жыл бұрын
@@depalandepalan1911 Absolutely, some also of the Middle Eastern attitudes display also. But then look at what occurred when the Dutch KLM Skipper blasted off,sheer arrogance their was the world's worst on ground collision at Tenarife
@msi8311
@msi8311 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s called Confucianism
@tayyabkhan2228
@tayyabkhan2228 2 ай бұрын
also in mexico!
@voroshilov3916
@voroshilov3916 Ай бұрын
​@@msi8311you don't know anything about Confucianism. Call it arrogance.
@dimitarivanov3817
@dimitarivanov3817 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just say that the captain killed all people on board including himself with his arrogance?
@daveroche6522
@daveroche6522 2 жыл бұрын
Is it not possible that the captains arrogance in 'quizzing' the F.O. was his way of ignoring/disguising the fact that he knew his own knowledge of the aircraft and its systems was lacking/limited? Just speculating.
@notme2day
@notme2day 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing that can happen to you .. dying because of someone else's idiocy and arrogance.
@lucidonoccasion5012
@lucidonoccasion5012 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that pretty much encapsulates it. Too bad there had to be other people on the plane with him.
@edinsoncavanirespector9078
@edinsoncavanirespector9078 2 жыл бұрын
That captain shouldn't even have a grave. He killed everyone onboard. May he rot for eternity
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Yoshi-sc2ln
@Yoshi-sc2ln 2 жыл бұрын
The captain actually ignored the GPWS warnings and the first officer, still couldn't believe that he didnt realize the situation he was in.
@ResearchNational
@ResearchNational 2 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder if the captain was having some kind of stroke or other mental issue...
@Guntank
@Guntank 2 жыл бұрын
@@ResearchNational More likely he was a fake pilot in the first place and was under the impression that the autopilot would do everything for him.
@ronniewall1481
@ronniewall1481 2 жыл бұрын
@@ResearchNational CURIOUS AS WAS THIS THE NORM FOR CAPTAIN. IT DID SEEM LIKE A STRESSED INDUCED EVENT.
@ResearchNational
@ResearchNational 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guntank is there a plethera of fake pilots out there? I was under the impression the humans flying the plane were licensed, certified, trained, experienced, etc.
@Guntank
@Guntank 2 жыл бұрын
@@ResearchNational Depends on the location. Pakistan in particular had a serious problem with this just a year back where almost 1 in 3 pilots were revealed to have had fake licenses.
@talhathd
@talhathd 2 жыл бұрын
this is so frustrating to see that first officer was powerless even when he knew death is coming
@jamesoncurry5224
@jamesoncurry5224 2 жыл бұрын
He even called him sir, a few seconds from impact.
@xeldinn86
@xeldinn86 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't powerless. He could have grabbed the controls and said "my airplane." Throttle up and pull the yoke back.
@shazaibkhan7870
@shazaibkhan7870 2 жыл бұрын
I remember, this was the most horrific crash of my time. It was such a heart breaking event, as all the Passengers and crew members died, only because of non proffessional attitude of the captain. Brother of my good friend died as well.
@chrisjoe3629
@chrisjoe3629 Жыл бұрын
sad
@nates5703
@nates5703 2 жыл бұрын
How does the "Terrain! Terrain!" warning not take precedence over literally everything else you are attempting to do?
@KiwiCatherineJemma
@KiwiCatherineJemma 2 жыл бұрын
I am not even a pilot of any sort, but even I know when you have one, indeed more than one "Terrain Terrain" warnings you go to maximum power and set flaps/ailerons etc for maximum climbing ability. A tragedy indeed. We're "lucky" that pilot only managed to kill 150-odd people. If he'd continued his career, he might have later flown the newer bigger jets with 300 to 600 people aboard.
@dmeemd7787
@dmeemd7787 2 жыл бұрын
yeeeaaah.. 🤦‍♂️
@etherealessence
@etherealessence 2 жыл бұрын
Its fine, we're just getting a little close is all. We're totally fine. What's that mountain shaped cloud?
@pault1964
@pault1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@etherealessence what’s that goat doing on a cloud
@starwarzchik112
@starwarzchik112 2 жыл бұрын
My, these clouds are rocky today.
@KrK007
@KrK007 2 жыл бұрын
"You arrogant ass! You've killed us!" (Hunt for Red October) ... it seemed applicable here.
@thrashandburn10221
@thrashandburn10221 2 жыл бұрын
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!
@ashokiimc
@ashokiimc 2 жыл бұрын
When was this said?
@thrashandburn10221
@thrashandburn10221 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashokiimc the soviet sub commander says it just before his own torpedo is redirected into his boat Edit: actually it may be the cartographer telling the commander or some interplay like that
@stepppppppppten
@stepppppppppten 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, it is apropos for the moment... but I myself, would never ever be saying those words I would take over forcefully!
@thrashandburn10221
@thrashandburn10221 2 жыл бұрын
@@stepppppppppten not much time. Look up hunt for red October vs. Konovalov. The quote is literally the last second before Impact, ten seconds before the cut
@ParaglidingChronicles
@ParaglidingChronicles 2 жыл бұрын
My friend was on onboard that flight and i always used to wonder what the reason for the plane crash was. There were even rumors that the plane was in the No fly zone area of Islamabad, hence shot down. Thanks for the clarification on the subject. Airlines should have strict rules and checks on mental health of Pilots. I lost a great friend to an idiot Pilots hand. SAD!
@phoenixlegend2921
@phoenixlegend2921 2 ай бұрын
I am sorry for your loss , its truly tragic , an avoidable humongous loss of life
@Dani-it5sy
@Dani-it5sy 2 жыл бұрын
This proves again that being good at memorizing facts when attending a university doesn't necessarily mean your are a smart guy. When something is not as described in the books he's totally helpless.
@Hawker900XP
@Hawker900XP 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure the captain’s tombstone didn’t read: “I told you I needed more training”
@MrNorthshoremc
@MrNorthshoremc 2 жыл бұрын
Dont make me laugh in all this sadness mate
@Birdsneverfly
@Birdsneverfly 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I had lost a good friend on this same flight. He was flying back home with his sister. Both died. I still remember the dreadful news. It's monsoon season in July and on that day, we had very heavy rain and clouds were unusually low. Margalla hills is wher the plane crashed. Now we have a monument there with all the passengers names on it
@RScottLaMorte
@RScottLaMorte 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of your loss, friend.
@whyilovemycats
@whyilovemycats 2 жыл бұрын
Oh how sad. I'm so sorry.
@rabiaaslam3186
@rabiaaslam3186 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry...
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the Captain's name is NOT on that monument.
@Birdsneverfly
@Birdsneverfly 2 жыл бұрын
@@davecrupel2817 I don't really remember
@AbdullahWaqar454
@AbdullahWaqar454 2 жыл бұрын
I was 4 and a half years old when this happened. I was still unaware even though I lived in Islamabad. The Margalla Hills were a popular spot for my family and many others, I still remember the smell when I went there after the crash, absolute rotting stench and nothing esle. Put me into a phobia of planes for a long time after that. Great work on the vid!
@jwesson30
@jwesson30 2 жыл бұрын
That captain learned that day he wasn't a pilot but an killer.
@johndue2366
@johndue2366 2 жыл бұрын
In my working life as an electronic engineer, I have met people like the pilot: They have a limited to no understanding of their jobs and a very high self-esteem. On ground, these people are very dangerous. In a cockpit, they are deadly. They have a clinical diagnosis: psychopaths /JD
@mosesjh8272
@mosesjh8272 2 жыл бұрын
Yes me too after i design a circuit diagram the lecturer told me wrong it doesn't work. So I bet with him and yes i won lol 🤣
@johndue2366
@johndue2366 2 жыл бұрын
@@mosesjh8272 Dear sir, You just did not understand the point. Maybe you are just heavy in your head. -- Let me make it clear: This is about communication and specifically communication in a cockpit in an airplane with a lot of passengers about to take off from an airfield. That shouldn't be too difficult to understand, mr. Moses. If you have a problem with the above, I would suggest that you typed 999 on your telephone and found help somewhere.
@mosesjh8272
@mosesjh8272 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndue2366 Oh wow Sorry if i offended you. God Bless take care
@Robidu1973
@Robidu1973 2 жыл бұрын
Either that, or it's narcissism. Although the reason is different, the problem remains the same.
@alansandybay
@alansandybay 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndue2366 Half knowledge+ ego = disaster
@algermom1
@algermom1 2 жыл бұрын
Arrogance and abusive treatment has no place in a team environment. The captain didn't learn this lesson, and it caused his life, and innocent others as well. Tragic. Great presentation as ysual;; tganks!
@whyilovemycats
@whyilovemycats 2 жыл бұрын
How true. The team environment became a toxic environment. It's such a shame that the crew and passengers couldn't safely leave that toxic environment.
@BamboTV
@BamboTV 2 жыл бұрын
FO was polite and professional till the very end. What a legend.
@technologyandinnovation4586
@technologyandinnovation4586 2 жыл бұрын
Young guy took early retirement from Pakistan Air Force. He was US qualified and trained F 16 fighter pilot. As does the wingman, he did not assertively questioned the lead here; who was an idiot.
@Robert_N
@Robert_N 2 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine my dad RIP who was a airline captain saying, "This captain is not fit to drive a horse cart let alone fly an A321".
@barrydysert2974
@barrydysert2974 2 жыл бұрын
This captain was an almost unbelievably arrogant man supremely confident in his own abilities. That he belittled his co-pilot for an hour shows that he was as insecure as he was arrogant! He knew that he did not want to make the left hand approach that night. The further in he got the greater his cognitive dissonance became as each and every time his superior knowledge failed to produce the expected results. He blamed the plane. It wasn't him. He knew HE could fix this. It was his pride that was his undoing refusing all help. This is the only way his story was ever going to end. One wonders if a psychological evaluation was ever done on this man? Thank you. !:-) 🖖
@briant7265
@briant7265 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he was supremely confident or that he refused to take advice because he thought he knew better. I think he was a terrible pilot who knew he couldn't handle it, and he was terrified of being exposed as such.
@Guntank
@Guntank 2 жыл бұрын
Classic sign of a man who bought a fake pilot's license from a degree mill, solely relied on the autopilot to fly the plane for him thinking he'd be safe as long as the autopilot did everything, and spewed a whole bunch of nonsense repeatedly to hide that he had absolutely no real qualifications whatsoever. This is Pakistan, too, where 1 in 3 pilots apparently had fake licenses circa 2020.
@endoetz
@endoetz 2 жыл бұрын
give a little power, and people will start act arrogant.
@repealsection230forbigtech4
@repealsection230forbigtech4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guntank Spot on that's exactly what I inferred too. The whole story clearly indicated that he didn't know how to land the plane with out computer assist. His aggression towards the first officer was to gaslight him to not scrutinize pilots own incompetence; arrogance is the companion of insecurity. A corrupt failed State like Pakistan has most of their pilots from fake schools. The EU had banned pia from flying into EU airspace.
@ilovepakistanitea1378
@ilovepakistanitea1378 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guntank PIA had the fake license problem not airblue If you compare airblue with other carriers in pakistan it is one of the safest
@SK-gi8dj
@SK-gi8dj 2 жыл бұрын
This accident beggars belief. I recall during my training with Virgin Airlines, it is an instant dismissal offence if any superior denigrates or doesn’t listen to a junior crew member for any suggestion. It was hammered in that even if a cabin crew member comes to the captain, the view must be considered always. Safety first. No room for ego in a plane. I just cannot get over this. How many times have planes crashed for no reason. Tenerife, this, and many others due to arrogance.
@UnstoppableEmpire
@UnstoppableEmpire 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt tenerife because of the radio communication not working well?
@aminckone.
@aminckone. 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnstoppableEmpire No, tenerife was caused by a arrogant Captain who took off without permission.
@mintymus
@mintymus 2 жыл бұрын
And how do they define a superior that "doesn't listen?" The whole point of having a PIC is that they are supposed to be the most knowledgeable, capable, and experienced person on the craft, able to make critical split decisions in highly stressful and dangerous situations. Having a crew member make a bogus recommendation during a time where a split second decision needs to be made might be fatal. It's clear that in this case the Captain should not have been the Captain, he had insufficient skill, experience, and/or training. Your recommendation here would not have saved the flight.
@wildcatlh
@wildcatlh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mintymus Look up Crew Resource Management, or CRM. The lesson from Tenerife was that the captain must be willing to listen to the others in the cockpit.
@mintymus
@mintymus 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildcatlh How do you define if the Captain is "willing to listen to others in the cockpit?"
@chraffis
@chraffis 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! Great storytelling. Great visuals. Bright future...
@CynthiaSchoenbauer
@CynthiaSchoenbauer 2 жыл бұрын
I like your encouraging nature.
@CharlotteForbes
@CharlotteForbes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a detailed explanation. I’d heard of this case before, but never before with such clear and easily-comprehensive details. What an awful situation, sorry to those 152 poor souls and the ones who’s concerns were neglected too. Hope first officer is in heaven
@enlightenment4715
@enlightenment4715 2 жыл бұрын
This has roots much deeper. How did a person like that, totally incompetent as a pilot: cant turn or climb his ship-- (without even getting into his attitude), ever become one for an airline?
@jjuuyyttii
@jjuuyyttii 2 жыл бұрын
I read a news report some time back about a fake pilot license scam in Pakistan. May be this guy is one of those who got in with a fake license or fake experience certificate or something of that sort.
@etherealessence
@etherealessence 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a pilot that was skilled enough to fly under normal circumstances, and could very well have been a great pilot at one point, but he let complacency get the better of his skills. It happens with good drivers too.
@majorskies7091
@majorskies7091 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjuuyyttii the pilot deffo wasn't a fake license holder he was a senior captain aged 50 the license scandal was something dating only some years back. He just became too aragunt and aragont his judgment was definelty messed up.
@etherealessence
@etherealessence 2 жыл бұрын
@@SJ-oxy "There are no "normal circumstances" in an aircraft." This is nothing more than a pedantic statement. Normal circumstances is a common phrase with a common meaning close enough to ideal circumstances that the difference in verbage doesn't matter in the context of a comment on KZfaq. "I think you meant to say..." No thanks. I'm perfectly capable of speaking for myself. Disagree with me if you want, but don't try correcting me in the most arrogant way. Especially when it's a pedantic correction
@tomklein9937
@tomklein9937 2 жыл бұрын
@@etherealessence i doubt that he ever displayed great flying skills. apart from the lack of judgment in planning his approach, he tried to “fly” the plane by fiddling with autopilot controls, even when the terrain warning had already sounded. even a mediocre pilot would have shut the autopilot off and gone to manual. avoiding mountains is pretty basic flying.
@ddichny
@ddichny 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the pilot's problem was "arrogance", I think it was the exact opposite. All of his actions match the behavior of someone who knew he wasn't capable of the job, but was trying desperately to conceal it. Other replies have mentioned that there's a problem in that country of people bribing their way into credentials they haven't properly earned. This pilot may have done so, and possibly paid for falsified records indicating that he had a lot more flight time than he actually had. He certainly didn't perform like an experienced pilot. The hour of berating the F.O. makes sense if the pilot had done or said something during takeoff that had caused the F.O. to express surprise about the pilot's ability, and the pilot had to "prove" he had experience lest he be exposed as an imposter. Trying to (twice) get permission to do a left approach makes sense if the pilot knew that the right approach was going to stretch his poor abilities but he could probably handle the simpler left approach. Having the F.O. set up nav points for the right approach makes sense if the pilot knew that he'd botch doing it manually. Brushing off the controller's suggestion makes sense if the pilot didn't know how to do what the controller was asking without exposing himself as a fool. Overreliance on the autopilot makes sense if most of his flying so far had been done via basic inputs to the A.P. for routine operations and letting the plane do the flying, and had little experience with manual flying. Failure to heed the F.O.'s repeated warnings makes sense if he was terrified that following any "correction" would be an admission that he didn't know what the heck he was doing.
@rabiaaslam3186
@rabiaaslam3186 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely..great psychology analysis...
@232K7
@232K7 2 жыл бұрын
Damn man that makes a LOT of sense
@Robidu1973
@Robidu1973 2 жыл бұрын
You have provided the perfect description of a grandiose narcissist. This time, however, the narcissism turned out to be fatal.
@DysfunctionaI
@DysfunctionaI 2 жыл бұрын
whoa lol
@FauZhee
@FauZhee Жыл бұрын
I think the simpler word could be... insecurity.
@wilycat5290
@wilycat5290 2 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis and report. Thanks for the video 😊👍
@jk3089
@jk3089 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for detailed analysis.
@BillyAlabama
@BillyAlabama 2 жыл бұрын
You’re such a good storyteller. It feels as though you are a good friend, leaning over my shoulder while you point to and explain the pictures and why they’re important.
@Thiso76
@Thiso76 2 жыл бұрын
What a great compliment
@frankfrimperton8266
@frankfrimperton8266 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdo.
@232K7
@232K7 2 жыл бұрын
What the fuck
@jmurray01
@jmurray01 2 жыл бұрын
Shocking behaviour! We see that regularly with car drivers on the road, but expect more from an airline captain.
@love4ever026
@love4ever026 2 жыл бұрын
in an road accident (in most of the cases) u die immediately and u wont feel pain.. but in plane accident u get fried alive..
@cherie4744
@cherie4744 2 жыл бұрын
Ik this is off topic but you have 69 likes
@KhurramShahzad-id7qy
@KhurramShahzad-id7qy 2 жыл бұрын
My brother in law's cousin was on that flight, he was returning from a business trip from Karachi, and was about to get married in 3 months. It was a sad day.
@kashifkashi1669
@kashifkashi1669 2 жыл бұрын
Sad 😔
@phoenixlegend2921
@phoenixlegend2921 2 ай бұрын
As an Indian, My condolences, such a tragedy, which was totally avoidable, take care
@fluuufffffy1514
@fluuufffffy1514 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is really getting good!
@godless266
@godless266 2 жыл бұрын
Headline: Arrogant pilot who berated his copilot doesn't know how to hand fly a plane and botches autopilot settings while aircraft heads for the hills.
@srednivashtar5432
@srednivashtar5432 2 жыл бұрын
The captain was certainly culpable, but so was the system within the company that put such a flawed individual in the left hand seat that day. Selection, training, recruitment and supervision should all have prevented that, but failed to do so. The aircraft, and the passengers and crew on it, were doomed long before it took off by the company senior and line management, as well as the person in charge.
@AB-ov1zm
@AB-ov1zm 2 жыл бұрын
Air india overshot runway a few months ago reflected the same problem
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. There is no way that the captain became a boorish menace on this one day; other pilots had to have known.
@verabolton
@verabolton 2 жыл бұрын
The western world is FULL of this kind of "captains", they are called managers and directors. They often drive big amount of people into the hillside, the only difference is that the "death toll" is not visible hence they are never hold accountable. Respect to the exemptions
@cargopilot747
@cargopilot747 2 жыл бұрын
A bully captain can often hide his bad attitude from management. All the first officers who fly with him can see the problem but many are afraid to raise their concerns because management will label them “complainers.”
@Zestyclose-Big3127
@Zestyclose-Big3127 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't relevant to what you're saying but I wonder if the captain actually sits in the right hand seat in Pakistan (like car drivers do).
@chraffis
@chraffis 2 жыл бұрын
This puts me in the mind of First Mate Bonovia aboard the Alfa class nuclear sub Konovolov during their hunt for the Red October. Having just realized that his Captain's over-zealous and reckless tactics, instead of sinking Red October, had in fact ensured their own demise, First Mate Bonovia, realizing the Captain's mistake, sneered at him: "You arrogant ass!! You've killed US!!" Moral of the story: Don't an arrogant ass.
@shayanhasan2254
@shayanhasan2254 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is the first officer should have stood up for himself, he was an airforce pilot who flew f16s prior to being a commericial pilot
@johnstuartsmith
@johnstuartsmith Жыл бұрын
It's not about "standing up for yourself." It's about creating teamwork and predictability, adherence to the established procedures, and maintaining a psychological environment leading to good decision-making.
@SpeedbirdNine9
@SpeedbirdNine9 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say that Captain had a "My way or the highway" personality
@chelseawales1090
@chelseawales1090 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your channel for quite a while, and still get so pumped when you post a new video. I love watching channels grow, and seeing how far they’ve come since the beginning. Another great vid as always my dude.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chelsea!
@rtrThanos
@rtrThanos 2 жыл бұрын
He’s only level 900 right now. Wait until HE’S OVER 9000!!!
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 2 жыл бұрын
Top quality as always! You forgot to add the Armavia flight 967 card at the end :o)
@MyCold1
@MyCold1 2 жыл бұрын
What a great channel, new subscriber.
@goldibollocks
@goldibollocks 2 жыл бұрын
I like how in the end of the video you always show the plane landing safely. In some parallel universe, that’s exactly what happened!
@tomswift6198
@tomswift6198 2 жыл бұрын
The "pilot" must have been an imposter. He certainly was no pilot. This guy blew off the tower, blew off the first officer, didn't know how to work the autopilot, and, most obviously, didn't know how to fly. These were not subtle errors. He didn't know how to fly a f'n airplane.
@briant7265
@briant7265 2 жыл бұрын
I get a sense he was trying to cover up his own incompetence. It would likely have been really interesting if the investigation dug into how he got certified.
@fahadbutt3601
@fahadbutt3601 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I was also offered by one of person after my high school cause I wanted to become pilot , I was offered to pay somewhat 5 million rupees to pass through flight school. Procedures sucked, and while many say they are improved, I refuse to believe.
@markusw7833
@markusw7833 2 жыл бұрын
@@fahadbutt3601 So these fucking idiots would pass you through flight school for money? Were they assuming you'd fail later?
@kam70111
@kam70111 2 жыл бұрын
@@markusw7833 Sorry facts of life over here.
@restojon1
@restojon1 2 жыл бұрын
Look what came out after the recent crash of the PIA flight near Karachi, many PIA pilots flying on either fake or fraudulently obtained licences. It's just a fact of life over there, sadly.
@waseyanchor66
@waseyanchor66 Жыл бұрын
Wow....what a way to make a layman understand. Thank you so much. Itwas informative.
@aviationcadet7491
@aviationcadet7491 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have ever seen on the Air Blue crash ! Let me add a few things about the First Officer ! Squadron Leader rtd Muntajib was an ex Pakistan Air Force Pilot ! He was an ace pilot on F 16s , The Best Pilot Trophy winner during his initial training ! If he were in the Captain's seat he would have landed this plane 100 times out of 100 attempts safely ! And thats why the captain was mean to him because that young boy on his left was more experienced in dealing with emergencies and was an F16 pilot ! It's a common commercial to Airforce fighter pilots rivalry sort of thingy OH U CAN FLY F16s , MY ASS ! U DON'T KNOW how to fly a commercial airplane ! well ! Mr. Muntajib on all hid conversions from first aircraft to F16S ...flew Mushshak ..did solo after 13 hours ... T37s ...13 hour solo ...FT5 ...13 hour solo ... F7PGs ..13 hour solos and F 16s 13 hours too ! h had over 5000 flying hours and most of them are flying in circuit and dealing with the circuit emergencies ! because thats what PAF trains the pilots for ! If he would have the controls he would have landed the plane safely than a person who flew 20000 hours but zero experience of handling any emergencies ....the captain went supervised solo on his cesna 168 after 200 hours even ! and never had flown alone ! so i Gues Sir Munjatib was laughing in his mind that thid oldie doesn't have a clue what he is doing ! He would not have interfered until the Captain would have given him the controls ! a big loss to the Aviators 🙏🙏🙏May their sould rest in peace 🌹🌹🌹
@djdrastic1
@djdrastic1 2 жыл бұрын
Do pilots ever get shown videos like these during training to show what happens when ignoring your F/O or Tower Operator ?
@edwardrichardson5567
@edwardrichardson5567 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Robidu1973
@Robidu1973 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem with that: You are going to reach mentally healthy people with that, but not narcissists. Since narcissists can never be wrong *cough* , why should they receive any input from others?
@GregDickinson75
@GregDickinson75 2 жыл бұрын
"Why won't this airplane turn left?" It shouldn't matter, grab the stick and *fly the plane*. If you're able, which this pilot certainly was not.
@budimpla
@budimpla 2 жыл бұрын
Greg Dickinson, muito bem dito. "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate".
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 2 жыл бұрын
Yep he even tried to do the circling approach with autopilot, which is NOT what to do. I wonder if all his blustering and "quizzing" and other bullying was to hide his own incompetence? It seemed he didn't WANT to fly the plane?
@krashd
@krashd 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteinnocent8752 It is exactly what to do, he just messed it up monumentally. Jets are moving far too fast to try and follow a precise set of waypoints in a small area such as an airport perimeter, this is exactly why you plot the course with the nav and leave it to the autopilot until you are lined up with the runway and have a visual of it - then you take over.
@Sr.DeathKnight
@Sr.DeathKnight 2 жыл бұрын
1970's pilots: "We lost the center engine and all hydraulic systems, we will have to fly and land the plane just throttling the left and right engines as our only controls available". 2020's pilots: "We lost the autopilot, now we go down because we don't have any means to control the plane". *Attach images of Chems.
@nicholasschwarz7147
@nicholasschwarz7147 2 жыл бұрын
I work with somebody like this pilot. Arrogant, haughty, self assuming, conseded, doesn't follow orders from supervisors, can't show or tell him anything. His way is the right and only way. Fortunately we're not in the air but he's gonna get someone hurt
@Hichatsu
@Hichatsu Жыл бұрын
You sound so like a guy I knew called iChase lol, loving the video's
@jeep146
@jeep146 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work with some of these arrogant pilots when I worked aircraft maintenance. I had nothing but disgust with them. After a while you get to know the pilots who knew what they were doing and the talkers who knew nothing.
@trevrice436
@trevrice436 2 жыл бұрын
In all these situations the co-pilot should announce "my plane" and take full control for a go around,if he is wrong all they waste is a bit of fuel if he's right he saves the plane and all souls on board. ALL co-pilots should have this in them,never be intimidated by anyone in life as usually they are the incompetent part of the equation as here.
@andymath1523
@andymath1523 2 жыл бұрын
You are completely correct , but crew resource management does try to put first officer in position were they can question Captains decisions and even take control . Really this should have happened on the landing brief when the captain decided to deviated from approved approach , but i suppose to captain being told how to do the approach was like being told to wear a mask
@andymath1523
@andymath1523 2 жыл бұрын
@EyewatchlessYTeach Timetheylockmeout The captain ignored correct approach procedure because he knew better so its really same as not wearing mask because you know better, procedures and rules are there for all our safety
@blah9605
@blah9605 2 жыл бұрын
There's a bit of culture at play here. Had the co-pilot even saved the situation, the captain likely would have used his influence to get the guy demoted or fired.
@andymath1523
@andymath1523 2 жыл бұрын
@EyewatchlessYTeach Timetheylockmeout Mask is to help prevent you spreading virus evidence proves this works , you ever seen open heart surgery performed without mask because studies show, it doesn’t do anything !!
@shitbird9429
@shitbird9429 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymath1523 That's to prevent wound infection though. A bacterial infection is a bit different
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 жыл бұрын
The relationship between captain and first officer--and with flight controllers--is so crucial. I know some airlines have mandated policies to ensure equal status between captain and the rest of the crew. Clearly, in this case, the captain acted in an authoritarian manner and killed everyone on board as a result.
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 2 жыл бұрын
This is a common trait in medicine of that part of the world too. The teaching methods are almost bullying the med students into learning, they aren't allowed to think for themselves, they aren't allowed to ask questions, they just have to take it and do what the teacher says and learn exactly as this video demonstrates. That leads to the graduated doctors then doing the same thing, ignoring the comments of those below them (including the patients). Its interesting to see that same culture exists in other workplaces too. But with that in mind I don't think the captain was malicious with his teaching of the first officer, I would think he was trying to help teach him in the way he was taught. If I were to guess the problem may be cultural, and the culture of pilots may need to change in some areas to improve the safety of travel.
@Lacrymac
@Lacrymac 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, thank you for uploading, you take so much time to explain the whole story, it is really interesting
@pieseldatches
@pieseldatches 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds of Northwest Airlink 5719 that crashed because of the captain's arrogance.
@tomwalsh6774
@tomwalsh6774 2 жыл бұрын
and the arrogance of the captain involved in the worst disaster in aviation history
@mancuby6679
@mancuby6679 2 жыл бұрын
And we can add to this tragic list Alitalia flight Az 404, crashed in Zurich on 15/10/1987…😖😖😖😖😖
@Alexagrigorieff
@Alexagrigorieff 2 жыл бұрын
And Pakistan International 8303, in 2020.
@fal218
@fal218 2 жыл бұрын
And Korean airlines 801
@azharaswadi6831
@azharaswadi6831 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info... 👌👌👌
@zaynab2791
@zaynab2791 2 жыл бұрын
i remember i was about 8 years old when this crash occurred, isb to khi and khi to isb were our regular routes of air travel. i remember how everyone was terrified to step on a plane after that. we have a memorial for the crash on the hills, its so chilling. can't help but think of them each time i go to khi.
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 2 жыл бұрын
Let's all give this captain a reward for single handedly flying his plane into mountains. What an accomplishment
@daonlyzneggalz7522
@daonlyzneggalz7522 2 жыл бұрын
Will the Darwin Award suffice?
@Robidu1973
@Robidu1973 2 жыл бұрын
@@daonlyzneggalz7522 Since the "captain" has killed others with this reckless maneuver, that automatically disqualifies him for the Darwin Awards. One criterion for qualification is that someone is killing himself without affecting (i. e. hurting or killing) others in the process.
@daonlyzneggalz7522
@daonlyzneggalz7522 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robidu1973 well then good thing I didn't straight up say they got it, then.
@TheRockprincess1697
@TheRockprincess1697 2 жыл бұрын
The system maybe flawed and pilots can be egotistic but the small pp play of the captain is a major reason for this crash. Smh some people are just not good at being put on the spot. Also, piloting a plane is a team effort you don't discourage your team before doing anything
@paulmorgan8254
@paulmorgan8254 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, watch the documentary about the Qantas A380 incident and how the crew plus some instructors (who were passengers) really pulled together to land at Singapore, the first officer was just going through all the alarms that had been flagged as there were so many.
@natalindiancongress886
@natalindiancongress886 2 жыл бұрын
@ Mishal.Raheja : hi, Agar Whirlpool in the Samundhar mein , Aakaash tathva landed on Bhoothava ? agar iss landing pressure or Impurity create karee tho tabh kya ho saktha hei ? before use kaa mathalb kya ho saktha hei ?
@tonylane8813
@tonylane8813 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I like the way you explained everything so thoroughly. Are you a pilot?
@MLeoM
@MLeoM 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect flow and every line felt extremely good and well timed. Great as always...
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 2 жыл бұрын
Note to copilots. Your life plus the passengers' lives are always more important than a job. If certain the captain is a danger knock him out if necessary and take control. But you better be sure.
@amigan34
@amigan34 2 жыл бұрын
No, don't encourage that because either one of them could be wrong.
@paulstelian97
@paulstelian97 Жыл бұрын
@@amigan34 Only when it becomes obvious -- here it ended up being obvious at some point.
@dr.skulhamr3220
@dr.skulhamr3220 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation. Thank you. Even James T. Kirk would often pause a headlong charge if one of his officers had concerns. Sadly, Spock, Dr. Mcoy, Uhura, Checkov, Sulu, and Scottie were not with them that day and the Captain had previously emasculated the Co-pilot. Sadder still for the passengers.
@dediirawadi7489
@dediirawadi7489 2 жыл бұрын
kinda remind me back in my first years flying.....captain always ''right''. 13 reports for taking over control did not make me sorry....saved my life and people on board. when safety is jeopardized......and the captain ignore any suggestions, do not hesitate to take over , it is not about your career anymore, it's about responsibility for the people.
@ekesa07632
@ekesa07632 2 жыл бұрын
With him turning the knobs instead of hand flying in such An emergency really reminds me of the lectures taught by captain vanderburgh. Not really sure if my analysis is correct but he seems to have been just relying on his plane the entire time he was landing. From him ignoring the controller because he was thinking that he can just input stuff on auto pilot and make it work for him not physically turning the plane when the terrain warning appeared but instead trying to adjust it on his auto pilot (if I understood correctly) Like it’s just hot trash throughout
@TSWest
@TSWest 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. After watching so many crash investigations over the years I hate to see the fact that too many of our aircrews have become system managers first and pilots a distant second. Shouldn't there be a control that removes all automation and turns complete control over to the pilot in an instant? Or will there be more automation to take command away from the pilot if there is an inpending disaster?
@krashd
@krashd 2 жыл бұрын
@@TSWest If you want to remove automation you turn off the autopilot, simple as. Once the autopilot is off the only systems that will interfere with your decision making are if the plane senses danger such as a stall, wherein it will attempt to avoid it. Though if a pilot takes control during a scenario that requires precise flying then the pilot now has to copy the exact route themself or they will slam into something at over 250mph. Jets travel far too fast for a human to control manually unless that human has a clear view of the runway already to focus on it.
@KarakuriPekora
@KarakuriPekora 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly this is so common in Asia. The conventional hierarchy indirectly encourages such a practice.
@abcdefgh6121
@abcdefgh6121 2 жыл бұрын
This game has made possible for anyone to depict these unfortunate incidents with such details. Appreciated.
@sajjadhusain4146
@sajjadhusain4146 2 жыл бұрын
I read a few reports online (AFP, Reuters) about a year ago of how at least a third (or more) of Pakistan’s civilian airplane pilots go about their business with fake credentials (certificates). The criminality and horror of it all is beyond belief.
@terryofford4977
@terryofford4977 2 жыл бұрын
Same applies with driving licences,there is so much corruption people simply take it as normal even as simple as a car licence is purchased by handing,especially US Dollars into the sticky hands of an' Inspector',it works for Shipping, Aircraft and ANY source of transport requiring a licence, I always felt that the Motto Of such criminality should be 'WHY WORRY? a handful of Yankee dollars will buy you ANYTHING and i mean ANYTHING.
@mikemoreno4469
@mikemoreno4469 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained. That was very informative. Thank you. Were you using MSFS for the graphics?
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I was!
@waynedvm
@waynedvm 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, well interpreted and narrated
@mathewthomas3245
@mathewthomas3245 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video..
@rabiaaslam3186
@rabiaaslam3186 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not wrong the pilot had retired from PIA and had many many years of experience. After retirement, he started working for a Pvt airline. This plane was almost nine years old and in perfect condition. His first officer was a young retired fighter pilot of airforce. The pilot had severe inferiority complex and he used his arrogance as a means to demean his first officer. This is usually the" know it all" attitude of PIA pilots. They simply feel everyone is below them just because they got a job flying planes.. They're ,I feel ,not technically competent. PIA is a breeding ground for such pilots. They're unprofessional and a risk to everyone's lives.
@waqarulhaq9491
@waqarulhaq9491 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin was a flight crew and she was on this plane when it came back to karachi from UK. Later this plane was enroute to islamabad from karachi. My cousin was not feeling well and she took a sick leave in karachi and against her substitute another flight attendent took her position.
@JasonFlorida
@JasonFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad though for the flight attendant that was on call. This is such a sad case
@YanDaOne_QC
@YanDaOne_QC 2 жыл бұрын
what's the name of your cousin?
@shahidashraf94
@shahidashraf94 2 жыл бұрын
@@YanDaOne_QCI Was wonder, what you have to do with her name?:)
@YanDaOne_QC
@YanDaOne_QC 2 жыл бұрын
@@shahidashraf94 i know he's lying so as you can see he doesn't reply to my question, confirming my initial thoughts that he's a lying p.o.s
@edwardrichardson5567
@edwardrichardson5567 2 жыл бұрын
What airline uses an Airbus A321 for U.K. to Pakistan?
@YourSkyliner
@YourSkyliner 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of stuff happens when pilots are not familiar enough with the autopilot functions of their plane, but at the same time feel uncomfortable with hand-flying it. If the autopilot does not do what you want it to, disengage it and fly the plane yourself. That's what pilots are trained to do after all (well, in theory at least).
@terryofford4977
@terryofford4977 2 жыл бұрын
Auto Pilots do not suffer the false 'Superiority' complex that certain Eastern airlines flying staff appear to suffer, its a fact that a few dollars in the right places gets a pass, NOT the intelligence and knowledge required, often known in the Far East as 'FACE' common from India Eastwards. HONG KONG and Singapore are NOT like this thankfully, I have worked as an ATC, Local and approach controller in those areas for number of years, Major arrogance is a natural attribute in certain nations, Fortunately, due o the very strict Controls HK,Malaysia and Singapore are free of such attitudes, its mainly the nations of the Middle East and India, Pakistan who suffer such problems.
@hmkt6279
@hmkt6279 2 жыл бұрын
On that morning I was stopped on a red light near the Kulsum Hospital crossing when this aircraft appeared from the right. It was flying very low and it's gear was not down as it flew towards the mountains. It banged in to the mountains with a loud thud after about 10 or 12 seconds. Such a sad incident due the intransigence of one individual.
@kimberleeswisher3414
@kimberleeswisher3414 2 жыл бұрын
Life is actually how we get along with each other. Especially now a days. Many different people in a small place for an extended period of time. People must be able to get along with others.
@steve3291
@steve3291 2 жыл бұрын
A salutary lesson in why CRM is so important in a safe flight deck.
@leftclick2win
@leftclick2win 2 жыл бұрын
this is so tragic, i cant imagine how the f/o felt like
@alansandybay
@alansandybay 2 жыл бұрын
In our language we call him as വാഴ. Deeply condolences to all of the passengers and their relatives (except him).
@reconforsales7708
@reconforsales7708 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very realistic reconstruction. The plane CRASHED and yet you show the plane landing safely.
@constanttraveler
@constanttraveler 2 жыл бұрын
We give physicians and pilots God status and it often results in death. I was a truck driver and shared a hotel van with a flight crew. I got to the van first at the hotel and rode up front. After dropping the crew off at the airport, the van driver told me that he was surprised that the captain "allowed" me to stay in the front, his preferred seat in the van.
@breadtoasted2269
@breadtoasted2269 2 жыл бұрын
You see them as Gods? Ok
@constanttraveler
@constanttraveler 2 жыл бұрын
@@breadtoasted2269 you received low marks in reading comprehension.
@Bwahahahaha1
@Bwahahahaha1 2 жыл бұрын
I used to drive a shuttle that saw pilots several times a day. There were some nice guys but in general, a lot of captains were arrogant and absolutely wanted the front seat. 1st officers were almost always nice and friendly but captains are apparently above it. Trust me when I say there's a lot more arrogance going on than just this pilot.
@MrNorthshoremc
@MrNorthshoremc 2 жыл бұрын
In medical its one life at risk, in aviation its hundreds or more at risk in one silly mistake.
@CynthiaSchoenbauer
@CynthiaSchoenbauer 2 жыл бұрын
Doctors demand the god status for sure. I can hardly stand it and try to knock them down a peg. Boy do they get mad!!! But what can they do to me? Not much for speaking up for the needs of the not-so-patient-anymore patient!
@Mrbobinge
@Mrbobinge 2 жыл бұрын
We're headed towards Icebergs, the Lookouts have no binoculars because I forgot the locker keys at home. OK, says the Captain, engines full ahead.
@jonwatson9765
@jonwatson9765 2 жыл бұрын
He must have had a history of this sort of behaviour but no one did anything. It is unreasonable to suppose that thiiswas the first time he behaved this way, just the one time he crashed. Do they examine cockpit recordings from his other flights? They should, routinely if they are to identify personalities unfit to fly aircraft
@MrNorthshoremc
@MrNorthshoremc 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it didnt happen in an instant. Some one never stood against his arrogance.
@mountains_beaches98
@mountains_beaches98 Жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind when they descended during circling is not the MSA(minimum safe altitude) but obstacles. There is something called max obstacle clearance altitude which they can descend to keeping the runway in sight.
@larryblanks6306
@larryblanks6306 2 жыл бұрын
Pilot should have been suspended from flight operations years ago just for his attitude.
@Kiran_360_movement
@Kiran_360_movement 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always
@Yosetime
@Yosetime 2 жыл бұрын
With great power comes great responsibility! This captain took his sense of power way past what he could handle. He did murder those people with arrogance. I hope none of the passengers knew what was coming.
@CynthiaSchoenbauer
@CynthiaSchoenbauer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, suddenly they were in heaven. Just poor loved ones left on earth to suffer.
@ual737ret
@ual737ret 2 жыл бұрын
As a retired airline Captain, I have to say that this Captain was an incompetent fool. He stayed with the automation to the very end instead of disconnecting the autopilot and hand flying the airplane. When all else fails, fly the damn airplane!
@Robidu1973
@Robidu1973 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately narcissism overrides rationality and logic. Being the grandiose narcissist that that "captain" has been, disaster was inevitable sooner or later. Unfortunately it struck at a most unfortunate time. RIP to all souls that have been lost because of this reckless behavior.
@Ananth8193
@Ananth8193 2 жыл бұрын
Hi man i missed your previous video.. Awesome video man
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dodoubleg2356
@dodoubleg2356 2 жыл бұрын
In looking at the "circular pattern" they needed to fly, I'm not sure why that was such an issue?? 🤔 Use the ILS to guide your altitude, then break off & fly a downwind, base, then final leg...I learned that in my first 5hrs.
@rurarararagi3394
@rurarararagi3394 2 жыл бұрын
Bad weather maybe the only thing that would have made a difference is if the bain dead pilot could see the mountain he was heading into 5nm away given that even the ground warning didn't help.
@dodoubleg2356
@dodoubleg2356 2 жыл бұрын
@@rurarararagi3394 yeah I was thinkin' that as well. If they're flyin' that type of approach, you'd think they'd be VFR, so not sure how they got so turned around 🤔...probably the same way car accidents happen, someone not payin' attention.
@BesmirZanaj
@BesmirZanaj 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a brain
@YourSkyliner
@YourSkyliner 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose he was just lazy and wanted the plane to fly the approach in NAV mode. For some reason that didn't work and he then tried to "hand-fly" it using heading select mode. Which didn't work either because he forgot to switch modes. Everything about this crash screams lazy and badly trained pilot.
@lisamurphy2314
@lisamurphy2314 2 жыл бұрын
It was at night, but that's still no excuse.
@RobertHollander
@RobertHollander 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis.
@richardkallio3868
@richardkallio3868 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been shown time and again that arrogance and autocracy in the cockpit never bodes well for safety. RIP. 😢
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