The Best Units by Unit Type In Mount & Blade 2: Bannerlord - Top Unit Choices

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ItalianSpartacus

ItalianSpartacus

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Mount & Blade 2: Bannerlord is full with a ton of different units across all of the various types: Heavy Infantry, Archers, Cavalry, and Horse Archers. I've added two more to that list in Two Handed Infantry, and Throwing Cavalry. In this video, we'll discuss my top TWO units, per unit type, and how to get them in the game. This list is mostly anecdotal and applies to my style of play, but I hopefully you'll give a unit you once dismissed a second chance after you watch this.
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@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Table of Contents: 2:43 - Archers 4:35 - Heavy Infantry 6:45 - Two Handed Infantry 8:51 - Spearmen 10:56 - Heavy Cavalry 13:00 - Archer Cav 15:22 - Throwing Cav
@MrSkogman
@MrSkogman 4 жыл бұрын
thought you forgot. thank you
@carltheoneeye9353
@carltheoneeye9353 4 жыл бұрын
brotherhood of the woods tree archers. are the best imo. im not sure why there so good but when i get 30 or 40 of them behind some imperial legionnaires i never lose. take some time to test em out?
@Shadowbow1000
@Shadowbow1000 4 жыл бұрын
What is batch experience??
@Shadowbow1000
@Shadowbow1000 4 жыл бұрын
Also, where can you get these patches??????????
@b2spirit86
@b2spirit86 4 жыл бұрын
@CYKA BLYAT95 1.3 beta branch. 7:54 Sturgian wolfheadnar was just a garbage in 1.2
@MarcMouvet
@MarcMouvet 4 жыл бұрын
Archer units must NOT be nerfed. Instead, armour needs to be buffed, as per the "armour does something" mod.
@IanCrossland
@IanCrossland 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. I would love to see the realism of barbed arrows, bodkin arrows and so on, against their respectable armors (needle bodkin are great against padded and chain, but bounce off of plate, for instance). Tod's Workshop does great experimentation on the differentials, that the M&B devs could stand to see - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eqiol7ecycqskXk.html
@planetside9714
@planetside9714 4 жыл бұрын
I second this. Top Tier armor is dogshit
@roberthill5805
@roberthill5805 4 жыл бұрын
This is right, and holy crap does it make a difference. I recently installed the mod and it makes dealing with forest bandits manageable. That and makes massing archers a flawed tactic instead of the worlds greatest.
@taylornox
@taylornox 4 жыл бұрын
Armour does something is a must have mod, but it sucks that u can't do realistic with it, or else it just makes archers useless completely.
@silvermodding
@silvermodding 4 жыл бұрын
Armor does neeed buff. That's piercing damage type need a rework
@jormungandr7885
@jormungandr7885 3 жыл бұрын
For my first ~100 hours in bannerlord, I misread Palatine Guard as Palpatine Guard xD
@Blatteslayer
@Blatteslayer 3 жыл бұрын
Same and i still call them that
@brianz8361
@brianz8361 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I misread imperial melaviaton even writing it I still don't know is this correct or no
@jormungandr7885
@jormungandr7885 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianz8361 Yeah idk either, I thought it was menavlition or something xd
@kennyjones4304
@kennyjones4304 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm not the only one
@ratwalsh8794
@ratwalsh8794 2 жыл бұрын
And/or Palantine
@ThaStrum
@ThaStrum 4 жыл бұрын
watching Sturgian Veteran Warriors just demolish a cavarly charge with their javelins = 10/10
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha it's so satisfying
@leoboxer
@leoboxer 4 жыл бұрын
I havent played the last patches but I really felt surtgian was a bit underwelming. how are they now?
@emochipmunk218
@emochipmunk218 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! I was literally looking this up last night
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 4 жыл бұрын
My army: Oops all horse archers.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaahha "oh no.. How'd I recruit noticing but horse archers, whoooops "
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 4 жыл бұрын
ItalianSpartacus to be fair, most of them were recruits when I got them.
@METALFREAK03
@METALFREAK03 4 жыл бұрын
@@jlaw131985 best army though for raiding and pillaging.
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 4 жыл бұрын
Frank Spencer and chasing down other armies. I never have to siege because I just buy the fiefs.
@jasonedemburgo8967
@jasonedemburgo8967 4 жыл бұрын
@@jlaw131985 or you can just straight up execute all nobles like I did.
@user-gg3xt2rh1u
@user-gg3xt2rh1u 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of hope Talesworld adding a feature that allow player to bargain minor faction for thier respecrive recuits, maybe require perk in charm or rougery, some relation threshold, and limited number for a month or so. Captive conversion is not so reliable, and quite ramdon if you constantly taking in prisoners. IMO, on top of recuitment difficulty, minor faction troops usually have higher stats, seemingly in exchange of lesser armor, which not necessary make them all around better troop than the regular counterpart.
@zacharyjackson1829
@zacharyjackson1829 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda hope that with time as the game goes on and we get new features i would hope for caravans that can distribute faction troops. I have ran full nation armies like khuzait only and god do i hate having to trek back to the east just for recruits. This is something i could see be implemented. Would also become a necessity if they ever decide to give us the choice of custom world generation which would be crazy in terms of game replay-ability and unique experiences
@Craft97pl
@Craft97pl 4 жыл бұрын
In warband i had modification that alowed to create own unit and personalize equipment and mod when you had your own troop tree. I miss peasant with top tier armor and weapon :D
@zacharyjackson1829
@zacharyjackson1829 4 жыл бұрын
@Avatar Ang custom world generation isnt beyond the game's grasp, especially considering its amazing mod community. To be perfectly honest the current game map isnt even remotely close to what i would consider great considering if it is "hand crafted". i see nothing requiring the game to stick to just the one map and custom generation could easily expand the game's lifespan by years.
@nicholaszwerling6793
@nicholaszwerling6793 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to do a "pitfalls video"? Something like units not to use, and mistakes with companions, or times you really don't want to declare war. Quests that harder than they should be for the rewards...etc
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a series of me rating each culture's units :)
@nicholaszwerling6793
@nicholaszwerling6793 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you
@Eggsecuter
@Eggsecuter 4 жыл бұрын
ItalianSpartacus definitely gonna sub to see this. How are you planning on formatting the vid? Will you account for terrain, siege, bandit camp settings? Either way I kno it’ll be good. Thnx
@evolpeac
@evolpeac 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Been waiting on this one to come out. Thanks for the vid bro.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely thanks for watching dude
@draner3343
@draner3343 4 жыл бұрын
The Druzhinnik is still my favorite cav unit. I can only get like 3 at a time because it’s so hard to find Warrior Sons, but they rarely die and rack up kills for me
@Keldarin
@Keldarin 4 жыл бұрын
Triarii seems to be missing from this list, but that might be because you'll need to recruit them from the prisoners tab after defeating any Legion of the Betrayed faction.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
100% why they aren't on here.. Especially if legionaries get throwing weapons. If Triarii could be reliably recruited, they'd be ace tier for sure! They're one of my favorite units
@GoodGuyGaming3
@GoodGuyGaming3 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing breakdown! Thanks for your disclaimers and your organization of the units for discussion. Now....back to blocking out the sun with my Emperor Palpatine Archers.
@regeneratedzed
@regeneratedzed 2 жыл бұрын
Great info by far. After watching dozens of Bannerlord vids, this has been one of the most informative without wasting time on frivolous memes, jokes and other necessities. I'm itching to try out the Khuzait noble line now.
@Lyserus
@Lyserus 4 жыл бұрын
For a mutli-national mercenary band, I use: (normal troop line since noble ones are hard to come by) Sturgia: Veteran warrior as my defense infantry Aserai: Master Archer as my range troop Battania: Veteran Falxman as my offense infantry Vlandia: Vanguard as my lance calvary Khuzait: Heavy horse archer as my horse archer And since imperial troops are easy to recruit and well-rounded, they are used to fit in the roles I lack from time to time, since their normal line has good infantry (with spears), two hand infantry, crossbowman (I think they are better than imperial bowman when pairing with other ranged units), horse archer and their noble lance cav is relatively easier to get with the big recruiting area
@7337simi
@7337simi 4 жыл бұрын
how to keep those Falx bastards alive though? They always die, even in seperate infantry groups covered by shieldwalls infront.
@daminwang9852
@daminwang9852 4 жыл бұрын
**Sad crossbowman noises**
@ruthlessasmr6662
@ruthlessasmr6662 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, vlandian sharshooters are honestly one of the best ranged units. Crossbows are seriously not to be messed with.
@siegfriedgottz698
@siegfriedgottz698 3 жыл бұрын
are they any good? like whats the point of crossbows in this game if theyshoot slower than bows
@ruthlessasmr6662
@ruthlessasmr6662 3 жыл бұрын
@@siegfriedgottz698 Crossbows usually have higher damage per shot and longer range than most or possibly even all bows.
@Aereto
@Aereto 3 жыл бұрын
@@siegfriedgottz698 Those crossbows pack an intense amount of punch compared to longbows, especially when led by crossbow skill focus leader. Good when concentrating fire on heavily armored units. Bane of players who don't have invested in shields, with or without armor. Melee/Throwing units are exceptional in the short range shock before they enter melee. Notable in sieges at choke points with throwing leader.
@picklerick3358
@picklerick3358 3 жыл бұрын
@@siegfriedgottz698 longer range. more damage. and they are in my opinion way more accurate than all archers except fian champions
@silvermodding
@silvermodding 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done vid Sir! Also I'd like to share some thought of mine: Heavy infantry: before the buff, Vlandian Sergeant was very sluggish because with all the gear and armor, they only have 60 athletic skill, now with the buff, they are more or less the same unit as Legionary with worse armor overall, and both can spawn with the mace. Sturgian veteran warrior is also very good, if only they don't have that chance of spawn with the bad shield, they trade some armor for better offensive power of throwing weapon. With the latest patch buff and shield wall collision fix, sturgian troops now form the best shield wall of the game. Aserai vet infantry and battanian wildling also work really well as frontline OFFENSIVE infantry, but can also work as skirmisher. Wilding is more durable at the moment, only because the Aserai have really bad head armor (which will likely be changed) and tiny shield. Archer: a shout out to Palatine Guards, sure in the latest patch they have 30 less bow skill than Aserai Master Archer and only one quiver, but their heavy armor (higher than Legionary) and very nice one-handed sword will likely make up for it. They can be use as heavy infantry as well, in fact, they are the only kind of archers I feel fine while left undefended on the battlefield for how tough and close-combat effective they are. Two-handed/pole-arm troop: I prefer the Imperial elite menavliaton over the Voulgier, they are heavily armored, and the normal/fine steel menavliation has better reach and longer blade so the AI will get maximum damage more often. Also the Mameluke palace guard is strong and well-armored too, their axe are really mean, but they dont have the reach advantage of polearm troops. Heavy shock cav: Vlandian Banner knight (VBK) and Elite Cataphract (EC) have different playstyle. For VBK it's usually charge, get couch dmg, retreat, regroup, repeat. You dont want them to fooling around with enemy infantry since they only have 174 total armor for a T6 heavy cav, which is around the same as their T5 sergeant (~170). EC, on the other hand, does not have that amazing couch lance damage, they can't even use their lance with a shield but it out-ranged any other cav polearm and most of infantries. Coupled with their whooping 214 total armor rating (highest in the game) they have no problem messing around with other infantries, get these guys if you want a charge-them-and-forget cav. Faris Vanguard is like a heavy/skirmisher cav hybrid, do well in both roles. Horse archer: another shout out for Mameluke heavy cav. In term of fire power they are in the middle between Khan's guard and Bucellarii, and they only have one quiver. But they come with a very nicely armored horse, and a sword and shield combo as a backup make them very versatile in many combat situations.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome list brother :) thank you for the explanations
@jonathanadams7676
@jonathanadams7676 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played a crap ton for a couple of weeks, but when I played earlier on, I noticed that my sturgian veteran warriors often survived much more often than my sturgian shock troops.
@chopyodikov
@chopyodikov 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they do. In theory, the Shock Troop seems better equipped against all kinds of enemies, but the weaker armor really shows in the death count. I prefer the Veteran Warrior.
@tuffilaro1565
@tuffilaro1565 4 жыл бұрын
same here
@blassap
@blassap 4 жыл бұрын
same here
@firecracker739
@firecracker739 4 жыл бұрын
I once noticed while I raid a hideout that Shock-troop didn’t use his shield even though he has it so he died in front of me. I use Veteran instead since then till I heard someone says they win all 1v1 that I start to use them again but I think Veteran and Legionary are more durable in my style because for me infantries are use to hold the line for my cavalry so survivability is the most important factor for me.
@Mango13ist
@Mango13ist 4 жыл бұрын
same here
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent guide, and credit to you for delving deep into the mechanics, particularly the weapon load outs. You conflict with a lot of the guides I have seen, but what you say is more aligned with what I actually observe ingame. I see a lot of guides which toe the line of "this unit haz best stats, it iz the best" ... but building an army based solely on Imperial infantry, Palatines and horse archers, whilst it works "fine" ... seems to be open to a lot of counters. I have had some technically "powerful" armies overrun by peasant armies because they have a lot of skirmishers throwing javelins before they engage in melee. Goat farmers with big shields and lots of javs can make a technically "good" army look a bit silly at times. Similarly, during a siege attack, most of my imperial troops got skullfucked at the top of ladders, i was down, but one crazy Sturgian(?) axe wielding psychopath got on the parapet and basically pootled around the battlements killing every last defender and I somehow won. Aseria specifically seem to have mad effectiveness on the open battlefield, even with basic troops (but perhaps this is balancing/bug issue which will be fixed) Thank you for this video. Its taught me to pay a bit more attention to factors I dont normally consider. For what its worth ... here are a few of my observations: I agree 100% with Vlandian Sergeants, they are the bomb. They just seem to have a superb survival rate. Half of the value of elite troops is that they survive for the next battle. Palatine Archers are superb default archer units. But not the best like most people say Having a good lineup is great, but obsessing about having a "perfect" army of specific troops is a fools errand. Frequently some rando units in the mix can offer a counter Khuzait Dharkans dont get the respect they deserve. They survive battles and do harm. Horse archers are only useful if you go all-in. I have won battles just by getting 40-50 horse archers to follow me, then riding around an army. When they send out the cav I skirmish, if the general engages, he might die. Engaging with a LARGE force of horse archers can deplete the enemy cavalry, potentially kill their General, and then cause the whole army to chunder forward across the map towards your guys. And when they do, you can drift around behind or beside them ... shooting them in the back. Horse archers are superb in force and at high level, but if you only have a few and they are shit .. you will just be fish in a barrel for their archer units. Go large or go home. Great video, thank you for really thinking about tactics.
@totoyuki1
@totoyuki1 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Vlandian Sharpshooters don't get enough love. They have one of the slowest rates of fire, but they do insane amounts of damage, and they're pretty decent in melee. Empire has probably the best all around troop line up, but I think Vlandians come in as a close second, without having to deal with Empire territory placement. I also disagree with the strength of archer cav. I've been playing around with them extensively, and one thing I've noticed is that while they overperform against mid tier troops, once they get to high tier troops their kill count starts to fall off. Additionally, a lot of the archer cav units get hunted down pretty easily, with only the noble line being safe from the terror of the super cavalry coming out from Vlandia and Empire. Considering both the Khuzaits and Aserai have a bit of a tough time massing noble units, that makes the losses you take in less than maxed noble units pretty tough to replace.
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the thing. The large reason why archers are so effective is that the A.I. seems incapable of maintaining an elite force. I had about 12 sharpshooters and 17 palatine archer working side by side; and the former got about 18/22 kills and the later got 44/48. Largely because I was facing an army of nearly 300 mostly recruits which largely folded over when anything hit them. Of course, the 50 or so cav I had won the fight, but strictly speaking it's better to go archers in single player just simply because the armour pentitration rarely matters. The billman and their evolution are incredible though, especially in siege defence and as a general sledge hammer, I have a unit of roughly 20 I try and keep around because those guys never fail to devastate on the charge, or even on siege defence/attack those guys have had incredible killing sprees. Only issue of course is that they are pretty exposed to archer fire and can be hard countered by that, and usually have a higher fatality count then most other elite unit's I've used so far. Vlander in general is a pretty incredible faction.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 4 жыл бұрын
I like horse archers because they are excellent at tearing open enemy formations. If the enemy is turtling, just send your horse archers to wheel around them and pepper them with arrows. You're not necessarily trying to kill a lot of people, but trying to open up their lines for your other units to take advantage of.
@user-gg3xt2rh1u
@user-gg3xt2rh1u 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, crossbow line is not quite good right now. Some bow actually have damage very close to the best crossbows avaible, and shields on back no longer block projectiles. And crossbow bolts still not have the damage bonus like arrows did. Hope Talesworld balance that, maybe scale down bows a bit? Kind of miss warband crossbowmen, especially in some mods where they changed the reload animation, that they turn their back towards the enemy while reloading.
@Arbaaltheundefeated
@Arbaaltheundefeated 4 жыл бұрын
@@gaiusjuliuspleaser That's why my preferred mid to late game army for field battles is roughly 40/60 or 30/70% horse archers / heavy horse respectively. Send the horse archers in to skirmish around the enemy as they normally would and it breaks up their formation, then order the heavy cav to charge, and watch the carnage unfold! If the enemy have a lot of cavalry themselves it's usually wise to call the horse archers back as you send the heavy horse in, so the latter can take the 'aggro' off them as it were, then they can be sent back into the fray. Perfect strat for Khuzait as they can provide both without nobles, allowing it to be a feasible tactic earlier in the game.
@benzosk2604
@benzosk2604 4 жыл бұрын
my 80+ horse archers can kill any 1000+ army though, use follow me then just run circle around enemy infantry while ignoring their calvary, use retreat when out of ammo and repeat. all reallistic difficulty btw. need 100+ khuzait nomad and high level tactician to buffer the army size, tell them to retreat at the start of the battle. Cant have too many horse archers, you need them to be compact formation so enemy infantrys and achers line keep shuffle around and dont have time to shoot at you, enemy calvary accuracy is too low to care about, their horse will die fast anyway from your horse archers. Unless there are so many calvary that block your kiting path then you can kill them off yourself with noble bow 10 guys at a time and quickly retreat from battlefield before any of your men die.
@ia3630
@ia3630 4 жыл бұрын
Another detail to keep an eye out for: horse barding (something I find lacking in the Sturgian Raider and Bucellarii cases, 10 and 15 armor vs 58 and 38 of the respective Aserai and Khuzait alternatives)
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT Call, totally forgot to mention that!
@csfelfoldi
@csfelfoldi 4 жыл бұрын
On this topic the Mameluk Regulars (the first horse level) are melee lancers and have little to no barding and armor. This makes them excruciatingly hard to level, regularly dying to looters as tier 3 units no less, this makes them a large waste of resources and time for a subpar horsearcher. Aserai get the short end of the stick in everything really....
@ia3630
@ia3630 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a stack of throwing something would be nice to compensate. Might even be safer to level them dismounted and mixed with other infantry just in front of them.
@anonymus2482
@anonymus2482 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always ! Love your content AND your voice ! You're very pleasant to listen to. I found you with the lore videos on the Warhammer Old World lore videos when playing Total War Warhammer without knowing anything about Warhammer. Never listened to a more pleasant and eloquent voice in the background while playing games. On Bannerlord's units : Love your take on it and yet here's me hoping we will at some time in the future be able to recruit from minor factions ^^. Oh man, just thinking about the Legion of the Betrayed. Or the Lake Rats even.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much! hahah huge compliment :D
@martinez206045
@martinez206045 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Bucellarii - one small problem though, they require a war horse to upgrade and that may conflict with other heavy cav upgrade. But once they get going .... :D
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh man, great point. THat does really deplete from your war horse stock. Hopefully they level up fast enough as archers that they come in before you need war horses hahah
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, my favorite too, since Imperial recruits are "everywhere" and since they are at the end of the archers tree they are rather easy to upgrade consistently without too much effort.
@martinez206045
@martinez206045 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus But, they are really worth it :D. If I know I'll go for them, I'll try to keep an eye out for any war horses starting early and never pass up a good deal :D. I'm playing a campaign now, on easy granted, but I've managed to pull off a win with an army of 180 versus just over of 1000. Half of that were Bucellarii and then a bunch of Batanian Fian line troops plus bandits that upgrade into Fians and like 15 Imperial Legionaries as a first line :D. Got lucky with the map and had a really steep hill at the back of the map with a mountain behind so no flanking or encircling. 19 dead, 26 wounded on my side and we killed 831 of the enemy - granted they probably had something like 75% recruits but also some good troops. And the Bucellarii really slayed (put the on F6 as soon as the combat began). Worth every gold coin I paid for them :)))
@IsaSaien
@IsaSaien 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think them only getting a horse at their final upgrade is a problem. They server as good archers and then they are upgraded into really powerful heavy horse calv
@zacharyjackson1829
@zacharyjackson1829 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinez206045 i find the game to be much much different between easy and realistic difficulty. I typically leave the player received damage to 2/3 (because i would like to not have to hide behind my troops shitting myself when an arrow or javelin flies by) to have more fun but man when friendly troops only take even 2/3 damage it makes your party stupid strong and doesnt represent actual unit strengths and weaknesses
@teapotdome
@teapotdome 4 жыл бұрын
i've seen a marmaluke palace guard absolutely destroy troops while defending a ladder attack in a siege... since then i always make sure my garrisons have a handful of them... i don't know how they compare to others but i was sold by the visual experience.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha they're SO strong, but I found the Voulgier to be stronger and the Ulfhednar easier to get to max level
@mythiclords3175
@mythiclords3175 4 жыл бұрын
This video is extremely helpful for me! Thank you!
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome brother!
@greatcornholio
@greatcornholio 4 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting idea for a video for you would be to take a look into all the minor faction units (lake rats, hidden hand, etc.) as some of these units do have higher stats than the standard unit lines.
@totoyuki1
@totoyuki1 4 жыл бұрын
Lake rats and forest people in particular have excellent high stat troops. Additionally legion of the betrayed has bar none the best melee infantry in the game. Triarii are no joke
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Funny you bring that up because I'm working on it :)
@ImRuined666
@ImRuined666 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus Assuming it will include how to obtain these units as some I've never seen, outside of people on KZfaq using console commands/cheats (I believe)...
@elgostine
@elgostine 3 жыл бұрын
hidden hand on the other hand and the eleftaroi are.. confusing in how underporered they are
@RutgerSmets
@RutgerSmets 4 жыл бұрын
Mamaluke Palace Guard is quite awesome for me. Good armour, good throwing, and large axes. If you let them charge into an enemy line, they'll take losses but the line will be shattered, pretty much winning you the battle. Also works great in sieges where the walls are already down.
@CornBredCrusader
@CornBredCrusader 4 жыл бұрын
If you need to level underwhelming units like the Sturgian Woodsman, get a batch of them, set them on their own control group (ie set to unit 5, skirmishers) and then chase after units of looters. When you enter battle, hit f4 (hold fire), the units control group and hit f4 again, allowing them to fire, then have them charge. This will let your underwhelming units that you want to level go solo vs looters, allowing for easy leveling. Just be aware that when near settlements your control groups above 4 will sometimes bug out and place your units FAR in advance of the rest of your forces
@radityoharimurti4641
@radityoharimurti4641 4 жыл бұрын
theres a mod that fixes raise the meek perk its fast now 2 day usually can upgrade to tier 2 with no fight
@cragnamorra
@cragnamorra 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Motivates me to try out some troops I hadn't really considered before. One very minor quibble: You state that Vlandian Squires are easier to find than Imperial Vigla for their respective factional noble lines. As you mentioned earlier in video, village Powerful Landowners are the source of noble-line recruits. The settlement notables are randomized with each new campaign start, so there will be a different distribution, both in numbers and locations, of Powerful Landowners (and therefore noble-line recruits) in each game. So Squires might be easier to find than Vigla in current game, but next playthrough the reverse might be the case. (obviously same general point applies for all the noble lines, not just Squire/Vigla).
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute excellent point.. And you bring up a lot of good information there.. I will say though, I've still noticed more powerful land owners in Vlandia than the Empire. I had one save where there was maybe one or two in the empire. It was infuriating hahahah. But i probably shouldn't have used a generalization so I apologize for that!
@Palabrota
@Palabrota 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis. Would love to see a recap at the end of the video giving your top choices again. Or maybe post it as text on the Discord...?
@Sergio-zc5ul
@Sergio-zc5ul 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would have loved a mention to foot skirmishers as well. In my Battanian campaign I love to use Wildlings because of how versatile they are. They can destroy charging enemies with harpoons while also being excellent in melee against infantry and they even carry a spear to fight cav!
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent point.. I think I falsely pumped them in to heavy infantry.. Wildlings are pretty bad ass
@melodikos
@melodikos 4 жыл бұрын
I have like 60 wildlings infront and around 40 Fianns at back,until any enemy reach they lose around half of the army and then after my horses charge they route.In every battle i lose from 1 to 5 soldiers only all in hardest diff.
@QuelKin12
@QuelKin12 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video !!! As always. Only thing it lacks is minor factions, I'd love to see where you put triarii, arboreals, foresters, etc...
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be giving them their own video :)
@ramahozo
@ramahozo 4 жыл бұрын
The Khan's Guard only has one stack of arrows instead of two like Kheshig (their previous upgrade line), making Kheshig actually a better horse archer for sustained skirmish.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but I'll be honest - I've never seen the AI run out. I'm also not really looking, but I feel like the AI gets to cheat with their arrows
@jeffwhite7214
@jeffwhite7214 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus They definitely can. During a bandit camp raid, I watched my one archer's quiver and the arrows actually began to deplete until it was empty and he drew his sidearm. The archers DO scavenge for arrows, though, so if there is return fire coming your way then it's like a free reload for your archers. One thing I noticed, though, is that archers do not use the barrels of arrows to reload during sieges (or in some bandit camps). At one camp raid, I continuously reloaded my own arrows and shot the arrows into the ground at the feet of my archers so that they would scavenge the arrows and would do that to make sure they had a full quiver for the next wave of bandits we took on.
@khuongle2400
@khuongle2400 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus some time i fight 400-500 army with ~100 horse archers, they do run out of arrow even with 2 stacks, then they start to charge into enemy infantries and get killed, i have to retreat after fighting for awhile to reset the arrows, in order to not losing any troop
@aleluve13
@aleluve13 4 жыл бұрын
But the Khan's Guard used their giant glaive when they ran out of arrows.. They're crazy good
@ramahozo
@ramahozo 4 жыл бұрын
@@aleluve13 The primary purposes of horse archers are for skirmishing, not charging If I play as Khuzait, I don't want to lose Kheshig/Khan's Guard at all and will use Khuzait Lancer (or other culture's cavalry) for charging
@1hybodus
@1hybodus 4 жыл бұрын
So for the elite cataphract and other noble lines, I've found that going to villages and seeing if they have a quest about deserters and then doing that quest gets you quite a few noble units as prisoners
@pignokor5536
@pignokor5536 4 жыл бұрын
1. hunt some steppe bandits 2. take captives 3. recruit them 4. conquer the world
@jasonedemburgo8967
@jasonedemburgo8967 4 жыл бұрын
Gengis khan right here folks!
@pignokor5536
@pignokor5536 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonedemburgo8967 thats my character name in the game
@Albursine-
@Albursine- 4 жыл бұрын
Quick way to level woodsmen and brigands; assign them all to their own skirmisher unit then farm looters by putting that unit in front of your infantry line on loose formation. Hold all fire on everyone else and let them throw away. Even in melee the woodsmen can handle themselves against looters. Or just advance your infantry before the lines meet to be safe. I wish I could play the 1.3 branch. Sadly, battles slow to an absolute crawl no matter my settings. Sturgians are my favourite faction too.
@csfelfoldi
@csfelfoldi 4 жыл бұрын
I mix Aserai palace guards into to my archer line a lot and have group 2 charge after the frontlines crash which makes them charge into melee leaving the archers behind. The voulger does look like the better option for this task cause they are probably much better at stopping cav so I'll have a look at them. Also I'm not sold on the effectiveness of 2 handers in sieges. They tend to stand around in front of the wall for too long without shields and get cut down by archers a lot.
@fabiansuckfull9446
@fabiansuckfull9446 4 жыл бұрын
A comprehensive list of the best units in Mound&Blade: 1) Horse Archers
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@fabiansuckfull9446
@fabiansuckfull9446 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus You know it's true. There is no counter to 200 horse archers just running circles around your troops.
@benzosk2604
@benzosk2604 4 жыл бұрын
well you need large supply line to feed all those horses but in game you can just buy 100+ days worth of supply from visit a town, so .....
@fabiansuckfull9446
@fabiansuckfull9446 4 жыл бұрын
@@benzosk2604 Or...you know...you just visit any village that has horses next to it on the map.
@danielgwiltsoftware
@danielgwiltsoftware 4 жыл бұрын
Horse Archers were quite OP in real-life history as well. Ever hear of the Huns?
@charlieforster9910
@charlieforster9910 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite moment ever in the game is when inhad just elite chatafracts and I charged strait at a much larger army that was like entirely recites and archers like no spears or long wepons what so ever and it was like a hot knife through butter
@jameswallace9906
@jameswallace9906 4 жыл бұрын
Man I didn’t even know about the noble lines I’ve been waiting to get my disciplinarian perk bc I just knew I’d get to up grade bandits to bad assery
@jacoblinde7486
@jacoblinde7486 4 жыл бұрын
I'm playing a Sturgia campaign right now, and they've rapidly become my favorite faction in the game. Their shock troops and veteran infantry work really well together, and their archers provide some nice support.
@Charles-jl2pr
@Charles-jl2pr 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, gives me ideas for what I wanna try out next, thx :)
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Yusss sounds awesome man!
@redcheeks3262
@redcheeks3262 3 жыл бұрын
Really good info/vid, i play for a week but i agree on every statement about these units its exactly what i have in my army comp!and the glaive is not only mot op weapon iame it also sells for a fortune !
@leonhill8447
@leonhill8447 4 жыл бұрын
Triarii and Lake Rat Wreckers for best infantry. Second best bowman is the Veteran Forester. Second best horse archer is the Karakhuzait Elder. Thus far the only way I've found to acquire all ofthese are to capture and hire. Every play through has spawned the special units in different places and different amounts.
@alecduquette7500
@alecduquette7500 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't played in about a week so this may have changed but my mismatch army has 2 real standouts. Sturgian shock troops and imperial Palatine guard. Especially the shock troops, I've taken on Western empire armies outnumbering me almost 2-1 and my roughly 15 shock troops usually manage a 5-1 KDR in open fields, with the Palatine guard getting similar results. Shock troops definitely live up to their name
@DarkTemplarlord
@DarkTemplarlord 4 жыл бұрын
You dont need nesserary perk to level up bandits troops into regular and noble units. When they are ready to upgrade put them into garrison to gastle or town with training grounds and wait couple days and they shoud have upgrade them another way to get put them into comppanion party and they will upgrade units when they battle.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct and I made that point in the video :) BUT I think I made it sound like you still needed the perk so I'm sorry about that dude! In trying to make that portion of the video quick, I muddled my point. Doh!
@DarkTemplarlord
@DarkTemplarlord 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus Glad to help! I enjoy watching your contents about Bannerlord keep going buddy!
@laurenzreichelt4911
@laurenzreichelt4911 4 жыл бұрын
ItalianSpartacus my searaiders and Highwaymen don’t Upgrade in garrisons, but my Forest bandits do, even when i sell warhorses to the City or put them in my keep stash
@stipicaradic
@stipicaradic 4 жыл бұрын
@@laurenzreichelt4911 I was about to say the same thing about Sea Raiders. I think I upgraded it into a Varyag, but only when I pulled it out of the garrison after getting the Disciplinarian perk.
@hashpipe24
@hashpipe24 4 жыл бұрын
To get a bunch of battanian fians is really easy. Attack forest bandits and take prisoners (or if the difference in party size is big enough they will join you) then recruit the prisoners one by one. Then just do battle with them until your forest bandits are ready to upgrade. Place them in a castle for a day and they will upgrade to battanian fians.
@mahmut379
@mahmut379 4 жыл бұрын
I love you, appreciated Just what i needed rn for my next playtrough I got 200 hours already, just love that game
@AvengerXOFXBlood
@AvengerXOFXBlood 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves and has even specced out my character as a Khan’s Guard, I can confirm their glory. I will also admit that I fear the Faris. Whenever I wheel my glorious horde of khan’s guard towards the enemy... I make sure there are no skirmisher cavalry alive first and foremost.
@wakinlakin
@wakinlakin 4 жыл бұрын
Thats really helpful. Thank you
@kayvanlin9213
@kayvanlin9213 4 жыл бұрын
fuck well 2nd i guess :D
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
You're the REAL number one, Kay. I'm streaming in two and a half hours. I want to see you there. And then at every stream this weekend. You're staying with us brother, none of that business you spoke about last stream. I am an extremely depressive individual, and have been my entire life.. We're all fighting the same war, just a different battle. I want to see you turn up to every stream. Even if to say hi and that you're alright. If you need someone to talk to... Join the discord, we're all. Here for you
@kayvanlin9213
@kayvanlin9213 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus Thanks my man. i was in a really dark place in my mind the past few days. However if i would do the act of no return i would cause so much damage to all the people who care. I know im not alone in this and there are many others who have to overcome this mountain. Sometimes it just gets to much but bad days are always better then no days at all. I will most certainly check your stream today.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I totally understand and I'm glad that's where your mind is at. Just gotta remember that you NEED bad days. They color the good ones and make the victory all the sweeter. Love you brother, see you in the stream
@ziljin
@ziljin 4 жыл бұрын
I have a mix of horse archers and cavalry. Aserai, Imperial, Khuzait and Ben Zilal
@nbp2015
@nbp2015 4 жыл бұрын
Skill level absolutely matters. The amount of kills that Battanian Fian Champions get when compared to Battanian Fians is immense! The only real difference in terms of their ranged power is the substantial jump in bow skill. I have to believe the same applies to melee units, as well. *Edit: I also think the Battanian Fian line is beyond overpowered. The Fian Champions have literally 100 more bow skill than the tier 5 archers of any other faction. Their output is disgustingly good.
@Kaan_is_myname97
@Kaan_is_myname97 4 жыл бұрын
İ love them
@armchairwarrior963
@armchairwarrior963 4 жыл бұрын
I always use khusaite horse archers. Just run around and around till everyone dies. They could literally out number me by a 100. still lose to horse archers.
@WritofPassage
@WritofPassage 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the battanian wildling line for a line of infantry with large shields and throwing so they pepper frontal assaults.
@unholywolf1945
@unholywolf1945 4 жыл бұрын
Those some bad mamma jammas just Sherking fools
@christophertaylor841
@christophertaylor841 4 жыл бұрын
+1 A favourite of mine too
@aburamal9046
@aburamal9046 4 жыл бұрын
@@christophertaylor841 Same for me. Their armor is among the lowest of all shield infantry tho and their shields have really low hp.
@LetsPlayCrazy
@LetsPlayCrazy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not leaving out the vladian sergeants and the bannerknights! But you left out their biggest strength: Their reach. Their spears are the longest of all the non-pike-soldiers. That means Sergeants will be more useful (beeing shielded for shieldwall and longrange spear against mounted charges) and the Bannerknights will hit the opposing men before they can sink their lances into them (except for very specialiced Phalanx like the Pikemen). They currently do not couch their lances, but honestly it doesn't really matter. And while Vlandia has the greatest troops right now (#vladiaforever), when excluding the sharpshooters (since crossbows are so abysmal right now), I do think that bows need to be rebalanced a tiny bit. Yes armormod is nice... but that also harms crossbows (at least currently). Fians can only be taken out by a large cavalery charge that is led around the main force into their backs... and even then they put up a good fight. Put them in a siegedefense and you are like the elves defending helms deep in Battle for middlearth 2. Unconquerable!
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
was a pleasure :D thanks so much for your points man, really well said hehe
@chrischrisdaman
@chrischrisdaman 3 жыл бұрын
Before clicking on this vid I knew that for cav that it would be the elite cataphracts and banner knights. In my main campaign once I figured out how the noble line works those two units were the crown jewel of my army of mainly vlandian vanguards and battanian horsemen.
@martind5653
@martind5653 4 жыл бұрын
Archers are master of this game. Unless you use battle realism mode. They have to shoot 45 angle to anything more then 20 meteres from them. And at mass to hit anything.
@dirt_mcgirk
@dirt_mcgirk 4 жыл бұрын
No joke on the archers. Every battle, I put them on a hill and just a wall of troops in front. As soon as they are positioned, then the bodies hit the floor!
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Cue guitar shred and break down hahaha
@agroplode9680
@agroplode9680 4 жыл бұрын
I have one guy only using captured and hired bandits. Just for the fun of it..his Sturgian, you know how they are. Bandits are really good troops for the money and they can all be upgraded into really good units if needed.
@ArcLightShock37
@ArcLightShock37 4 жыл бұрын
While I agree, the Fian Champion is by far the best archer, I actually find I enjoy the Imperial Sergeant Crossbowmen as a better second place than the veteran archer or even the vlandian crossbow line. The heavy armor, high damage crossbow, sword AND shield for melee...these guys are absolutely brutal for softening up the enemy and then reinforcing the depleted frontlines once their bolts are spent. And, when it comes to defending walls, I think they may be even better than Fians. They perform better in melee in my experience and so when the enemy reaches the wall, sergeant crossbowmen will usually make short work of them.
@t6nu
@t6nu 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, although it could be improved by mentioning bandit names used on the campaign map when talking about noble lines. eg. Harami might be a unit no one has seen unless they've actually fought Desert Bandits and recruited some. Also did you consider mercenary/minor faction units? While only acquirable via prisoners (I think) most of them have some pretty decent units stat-wise. Triarii for example.
@t6nu
@t6nu 4 жыл бұрын
nvm about the merc units. Saw your comment below.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Man you're totally right, I'm sorry. I didn't even think of that. I know there's one where I say, "The Brigand from the Mountain Bandit Line," but that should have been the note for every band I brought up. That's a really good point. I apologize! Hopefully it wasn't a pain to discover which ones I was talking about. Also yeah, I'd love to have gone into the minor clans, but I'm going to be doing them in their own respective video since they are a little tricky to get, making their presence on this list lacking. Otherwise, yes, 100% Triarii, probably my favorite unit in the game hahaha
@purgedome2386
@purgedome2386 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. I always love like having a battalion(ok a platoon of atleast 30) of Imp Trained Infantryman that supports my shieldwall infantry. I keep my spearman(counter cav) to the left side and the jav(imp trained infant mixed with brigands) infantry to the right(counter horse skirmishers) and of course shieldwall infantry dead middle. I just wished the game saved my # unit assignments.. they keep resetting on restart.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
God me too. I hate it man Hahah. It really prevents me from wanting to make really nice army set ups. It becomes so tedious when you have to save scum because of random bugs
@DanTheTTT
@DanTheTTT 4 жыл бұрын
Banner Knight Rush from rear and flanks is my META
@CollinInGame
@CollinInGame 4 жыл бұрын
Hammer and anvil
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 4 жыл бұрын
F6 your horse archers, shield wall your infantry, spread out your archers, and personally lead your cav to crush the enemy cav, followed by the enemy's rear!
@samuelbobadilla5041
@samuelbobadilla5041 3 жыл бұрын
Another way to acquire imperial vigla recruits is when you have “train troops” quest in any empire village, if completed dont return the troops keep it to your party. The trained peasant troops will automatically became viglas but by doing this you will get negative relationships to the lords that gave you the quest
@Thekelskgamingetlets
@Thekelskgamingetlets 4 жыл бұрын
well , i ve done a full Imperial crossbow army (around 100 men) it was shredding all open field battles when placed in a line. But struggled like hell in sieges
@HappyEmo666
@HappyEmo666 4 жыл бұрын
Still seem to find spear infantry are very underwhelming at stopping any cav charges, unless you stack your troops very deep - i.e 5+ lines cav seems to ride straight through them and on to your back line of archers.
@StoneTuba
@StoneTuba 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Aserai Heavy Mameluke Cavalry are an overall better choice than the Buccelarii. The Mamelukes get a shield which is huge in sieges and the Buccelarii also miss out on good horse armor. Also a majority of the Mameluke upgrade line is on horseback.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point, but you're looking at two really hard tiers to get to that point, without much armor or a shield. Imperial bowmen are way easier to level in my opinion
@mikedittsche
@mikedittsche 4 жыл бұрын
I have built up a stack of these in my mostly Vlandian party and they rake in a lot if kills. I believe they have a much stronger bow than Bucelarii. They are not as good as Khans Guard, but I'd put them in second place for their decent overall armor and because they are easily obtained in large numbers (unlike Khans Guards and Bucellarii).
@GewalfofWivia
@GewalfofWivia 4 жыл бұрын
Elite Cataphract is grossly overrated: Their lance is two-handed, meaning they can’t be couched or be used with a shield. Their superior armor is largely useless because when charging, any damage taken is drastically amplified and armor does less to save their lives than sheer luck. They don’t have alternative means of attack and get stuck onto each other and the enemies when they bunch up and charge in. Their horses are the slowest war horse in the game. Aserai Faris, on the other hand... Are MUCH more deadly and versatile with their nuclear powered throwing weapons and highest-tier war horses, not to mention the armor is only slightly weaker.
@mindurownbusiness463
@mindurownbusiness463 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I love skirmishing Cav, but the Aserai Faris brings a whole new meaning to skirmishing cav, their Sturgian counter part is like a looter compared to them. Also if you though EC was good then most likely you have never tried Druzhinnik from Strugia, just 3+f6 never worry about them in that battle.
@Halcypian
@Halcypian 4 жыл бұрын
Will you ever make or post an edit/update to this video? I've been using this video as a means to find what troops to train overtime, but I've noticed a couple of differences, like the Sturgian Two handed and Sturgian shock troopers are different in 1.4.1 than they were in the previous patch that you made the video for. A quick reply will do wonders!
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
I will!! Just waiting a few patches since it's all bound to change again soon. Most of my videos will get a complete re-do the more things change :)
@Halcypian
@Halcypian 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus Much appreciated! I know I'm asking for alot at this point, but any big changes you think have already occurred in your personal list of what troop's have gone down or up your lists?
@mikeybrokie1516
@mikeybrokie1516 4 жыл бұрын
i hope you do a video like this for captain mode in multiplayer.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Oooof that's tricky, but I can try :D
@KillerFISH1991
@KillerFISH1991 2 жыл бұрын
I want to start using all the troop hot keys, like skirmishes and light Cav. So far I have 60 legionaries as infantry, 150 Fian champ archers, 20 palace guards for heavy infantry, 25 elite caphrities (how ever you spell them) and lastly 45 Khans guard horse archer. I want to Italian every unit hotkey though, skirmishes and light cav etc. Not sure what to add or even what skirmishes will do to help me, are they throwing infantry for flanking?
@veinvalour7473
@veinvalour7473 4 жыл бұрын
Do NOT touch Sturgian Ulfhednars. Despite the buff to 2h and Atheltics, these guys get melted by anything they touch because of a clear lack of armor. If you want beast mode 2h units. Get the Sturgian Shock Trooper instead. They have an enormous round shield, good heavy armor, and rock a powerful 2h polearm that they use for close quarter fighting.
@ImRuined666
@ImRuined666 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see the Vlandian Crossbowmen in this list... In my experience, that massive great shield they carry makes them some of the best all-round archers, as they can be effective melee troops in a siege, and can be ordered into a shield-wall and survive advances against incoming arrows...
@miguelsacramento4416
@miguelsacramento4416 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised not to see Hired Crossbowmens in the list, same stats as boar champs but with better armor imo the best xbows in the game. And since a couple patches ago you can find them in good amounts. Just check the taverns.
@BigMackWitSauce
@BigMackWitSauce 3 жыл бұрын
Even the intro to this taught my noob ass something, I've been leaving my best units in garrisons and only go get them when major wars break out while I take all my wimpy units out with me to level them up, this changes everything haha
@lamebubblesflysohigh
@lamebubblesflysohigh 4 жыл бұрын
The case for imperial units is that they are useful almost immediately. While you have to farm villages for fians.... you can easily recruit a bunch of recruits, fight 1 battle against 20 looters and at least 10 will upgrade to archers guaranteed. Fight another fight against looters and send in only recruits and bam you have another 10. Rinse and repeat. Getting load of archers this quickly as other faction is impossible and they only get better as they tier up. Yes they are not the best in their category but 2nd best is actually better if you can have vastly more of it.
@marcus1992000
@marcus1992000 4 жыл бұрын
hi loved it just maybe the bucilarii you have to add that their horses arent very armored so they get killed quite quickly
@mr.sandman1217
@mr.sandman1217 4 жыл бұрын
I use sturgian vets as the frontline with shock troops as a second line. Aswell as a mobile detachment on ulfhednars as flankers.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
I think the real way to win this game is soldiers broken into more units than just 1.. 2...3. Etc.. So I totally agree with you
@mr.sandman1217
@mr.sandman1217 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus especially coming the mindset of using mixed unit tactics from total war.
@WhirlwindOfWTF
@WhirlwindOfWTF 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding noble lines, there are more Imp factions to get your noble troops from, compared to Vlandias 1 area. Also Imp Horse archers are easiest final tier cav to get. Imp archers are easy to get and level, and Imp war horses are the cheapest war horse
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you brotha
@Ionenkanone1
@Ionenkanone1 4 жыл бұрын
well i am more of a roll player so i stay mostly true to the units of the faction i choose but it is interesting to know wich units are "best" in there field
@anthonyrichtofen6792
@anthonyrichtofen6792 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite two handed infantry is the Aserai Palace guard. They chew through everything with their axes and they have good armor. They would always get a crap ton of kills in my games.
@pr0faker
@pr0faker 4 жыл бұрын
cavalry only works when you lead them into the enemies, just command charge makes them loose cohesion instantly and just go at it randomly. either let them follow you on horseback or steer them with F1 to lead them through infantry lines, but keep an eye out to not go in full lines of infantry since they will get stuck and get rekt by spears. For the rest its usually pretty much follow the noble lines for best units in the game. I would argue that the palantine guard rival the master archers though, since they have I think better armor, but then again, Fians... What about the druzhinnik champions for cavalry? they seem to survive pretty much every battle I have had.
@jeroen3657
@jeroen3657 4 жыл бұрын
I do this to. Best is to charge later on in the battle from the side. Also something that maybe gets fixed is the fact that just having your cav on follow you can disorganize the enemy line so hard without even actually attacking making it easy targets for your archers.
@xiezongnan
@xiezongnan 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I would agree. Currently, horse archers have far better AI control than Cavls, with horse archers at start battle pretty much F6 will let them go circle the enemy from the right side flank unless they are being challenged by other calvs. what I normally do now is send horse arches out with F6, and lead calvs to go to the left, let infantry and foot archers charge in the middle. as soon as horse archers finish their first circle I will lead the calv to charge in from the left to mess with their foot archers. and by this time the foot soldiers will be catching up and finishing off the front lines. normally when I double back do a second charge the enemy's infantry will be already gone, only leaving foot archers to be picked off.
@roojackaroo8517
@roojackaroo8517 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeroen3657 yeah, that makes sense historically though Having tons of incredibly fast warriors with pointed sticks that will instantly kill you and a line of archers just wsiting to rain hell upon you will usually be quite scary
@Steve-ps6qw
@Steve-ps6qw 3 жыл бұрын
So, what is the best polearm? The Glaive, the War Razor, the Romphia (sp)? or what? Are they better than 2Handers? Are the polearms better for fighting against cavalry while 2H's are best against infantry?
@marcopiedad4551
@marcopiedad4551 4 жыл бұрын
I found that joining a faction as a mercenary is the best way to get the units you want as of right now, as they usually group into one army, attack their enemy and get overwhelmed eventually. when they lose, the now beaten up enemy forces have lots of prisoners, which are troops of varying tiers as well as being free to recruit instantly after defeating the now exhausted enemy force.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Great call.. Also the money you make from being a merc is huge
@stormworks4882
@stormworks4882 4 жыл бұрын
its true that archers are tough to counter, but that is only on open maps. some maps with hills and obstacles can really nerf the dps they will get out. I was able to maneuver my infantry much closer
@zeta1593
@zeta1593 3 жыл бұрын
I think that archers being kings of battle is quite accurate
@saltydog9355
@saltydog9355 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Vlandian Sergeants also carried a polearm as well as the shield and one handed? They’re my favorite infantry unit because they can counter cav and are really sturdy fighters in melees
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Wait didn't I say that they did!!? Dammit, that was like.. one of the biggest driving factors behind selecting them for their spot! Why.. am i... stupid
@roojackaroo8517
@roojackaroo8517 4 жыл бұрын
Also,they look epic with that awesome cape
@MiguelRuiz-jm2te
@MiguelRuiz-jm2te 4 жыл бұрын
@@italianspartacus haha it happens,, anyway I'm keeping myself subscribed :[]
@rofkr
@rofkr 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@NamelocTheBard
@NamelocTheBard 4 жыл бұрын
Troop trees need to be reworked to prevent ability loss in higher tiers. Berserkers need a better armored second option so they can keep their shirts on at say, the cost of skill or other equipment, the vlandian Spearman line shouldn't have shields immediately taken away after tier 3, and one of the imperial infantry branches needs to keep the javelins. I'm sure there's more, but those really bother me. Also since I think peasants now upgrade to their cultural recruit, it would be cool to recruit peasants as bottom barrel daily options for players who just need bodies for the meat grinder, and fast. And a tier one noble for everyone to help in that regard too.
@caseyshaunthomas
@caseyshaunthomas 3 жыл бұрын
For sure the Sturgian Ulfhendar go hard. Since this video was made the Ulfhednar recieved more armor. Another alternative are the palace guards which have significantly more armor but a bit less two handed capability.
@bryan.paul.
@bryan.paul. 4 жыл бұрын
Infantry 1 - Sturgian Shock Troop & Brotva Veterans (1st line of defense against charging horses, can be switched out to Triarii if enemy infantry charges) Infantry 2 - Triarii (2nd line of defense usually in square & shield wall formation and when enemy infantry nears them, use charge command) Archers 1 - Vlandian Sharpshooter (slightly above infantry placement for max damage output) Archers 2 - Battanian Fian Champion (position above everyone else and let them wreak havoc) Cav - Imperial Elite Cataphract, Vlandian Banner Knight & Sturgian Druzhinik Champion (positioned for flanking either right or left side, charge at enemy archers then cleanup from behind) Cav Archers - Khuzait Khans Guard & Imperial Bucellari (command to skirmish on mount to delay enemy charge as well as soften them up and once everyone is positioned, command to follow you and circle the enemy) This is pretty much my army and strategy for my current playthrough as it really brings out the aspect of commanding your army in the game like that of a general, little to no fighting needed and its fun to just watch and command. Execute it properly and you'll have little to no casualties after the battle even if outnumbered. As for the recruitments and leveling of these troops, it takes time but it is rewarding seeing how strong it is. Luckily for me, I've been blessed to farm the minor faction legion of the betrayed for the triarii and the mountain bandits and forest bandits for the fian champs and banner knights and the marauder and raider bandits for the khans guard.
@py3453
@py3453 4 жыл бұрын
I already got the Disciplinarian perk but It still says I need that perk in order to promote the Battanian Fian. Any help?
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... It SHOULD work.. in theory.. hopefully a bug fix on monday?
@ruslanmamedaliyev3912
@ruslanmamedaliyev3912 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if im wrong So among the special elite units: Best cav is banner knights or imperial cataphracts Best foot archer is fian champion Best cav archer is khans guards And there is no special elite units from hand infantry os the best ones among regulars best shiled ones r imperial legianry and sturgian axeman and best two handed guys r sturgians and aserai palace guards
@Zhangmengxing3236
@Zhangmengxing3236 4 жыл бұрын
The best and easiest line is: join someone, lead an army of you and your companion party non stop, get 125 leadership, stack up on level 5 bandit prisoners, and boom, full army of noble line soilders.
@kirkus9194
@kirkus9194 4 жыл бұрын
Not related to the video sorry but wanted to ask if anyone else is experiencing an issue with the unit groupings in the Party screen. I set the grouping on a type of troop to a different grouping like infantry to horse archer (ie a companion) but it reverts back to the troop's (and companion's) default over time, i.e. vlandian levy crossbow - I don't want them as part of #1 infantry, I'd prefer them to be with #2 archers. If I want a type of troop in a diff grouping, I have to make the change just before a battle. It's frustrating and why I don't do it often.
@italianspartacus
@italianspartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's a known bug that is hopefully fixed soon!
@hairutheninja
@hairutheninja 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would've thought mameluke over bucellerii because the stats are similar but mamlukes have a shield
@Miiro55
@Miiro55 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if this is still fairly up to date or has it changed a lot in the last year? Looking to get back into bannerlord
@SilverforceX
@SilverforceX 4 жыл бұрын
The best horse archer is actually Aserai, because they have noble bows with base 80 dmg. The KG and heavy HA only have 64 dmg bows.
@peterbriedon8058
@peterbriedon8058 4 жыл бұрын
it is abbout accuraci too and you can change troops you know to make it how you want, it module/sandboxcore/moduledata/spnpccharacters
@cennetgul4035
@cennetgul4035 4 жыл бұрын
khans guard is the best
@goalieyes
@goalieyes 3 жыл бұрын
Would love an update to this
@armchairwarrior963
@armchairwarrior963 4 жыл бұрын
From my own playing, I feel the imperial horse archers horses feel slower than say khusaites.
@KlovborgOfDoomElite
@KlovborgOfDoomElite 4 жыл бұрын
How do you tell what kinda armor their are wearing? Yea ofc they have it equiped! But hey i wanna know every single piece of equipment cause im that nerdy. And i hate the fact i cant see their equipment like warband.
@ITALIAJ23
@ITALIAJ23 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I can't get a good answer but is it okay to have mixed faction infantry in your army? To get all these great tier troops? Or do you suffer big time if they fight their own kind?
@marbinb2870
@marbinb2870 4 жыл бұрын
Jordon Jakusz in late game, you lose so much troops that you need to recruit anything that moves. personally, I keep with me noble prisoners that are that are sergeants and below (hastati and principes, battanian highborn warriors but not fian champions) they need to be low ranked because it takes forever to recruit t6 troops (I don't think I ever converted t6 prisoners). after a few battles those hastati prisoners are recruitable and you don't have to fall back to your own territory to recruit. Late game enemy armies are very sneaky and quite active, if you so much as stop, you will probably lose a few towns and castles while you recuperate.
@ITALIAJ23
@ITALIAJ23 4 жыл бұрын
@@marbinb2870 aww thanks yeah super confused! Thanks for clarification
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