The "Brothers" of Jesus: A Fresh Look at the Evidence

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In this video, Dr. Brant Pitre discusses the so-called brethren of Jesus, and asks the fundamental question as to whether or not -- given both the biblical evidence and the early Church fathers -- the gospels speak of biological brothers of Jesus or not. He will also explain who these so called brothers were and the positions they held in the early Church.

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@patquint3291 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been reading over all the comments and find the “back and forth” conversation very interesting. At the age of 42, 26 years ago (yes, I am old) I converted to the Roman rite of the Catholic Church after questioning Christian dogma and doctrine as taught in the United Methodist Church in which I was raised. When I realized the Methodist community was created from a split from the Episcopal community which was created from a split with the Anglican community which was created from a split with the Roman rite of the Catholic Church I began to wonder WHY all the splits when Jesus prayed we should all be one and St. Paul wanted no divisions in the faith communities he had established SO..... to make a very long story short, I came home to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church in 1993. I find all this bickering totally a waste of time. People will twist and turn the Scriptures into any meaning they, personally, want to believe and after more than 500 years of one community after a another, after another after another after another after another after another (you get my meaning) splitting from the ONE Church Jesus established, only the Holy Spirit can stop this tragedy of divided Christendom. Pray that all our brothers and sisters in Christ come home to the fullness of the Faith. God bless.

@gato_gc821 4 жыл бұрын

Well said, totally agree with you. 🔥🔥🔥💒🙏😃

@miket5181 4 жыл бұрын

I’m Jewish. I believe that people of good will of all religions can and must get together in faith, in brotherhood and sisterhood. Jews and Christians are not so different. Jews are waiting for the Messiah to Come. Christians (including Catholics) are waiting for the Messiah to Come Back. Do you want the Messiah to Come soon? Then be good to members of his tribe! Jesus was Jewish when he was a man on Earth. What religions will He be if & when He Comes Back? Wait and see!

@jessealvarez779 4 жыл бұрын

I converted at age 28 at the Easter Vigil of 2010, no turning back. It's good to be home!

@patrickoconnor8192 4 жыл бұрын

Mike T5 Yes, Jews and Christians are brothers and sisters! St. Paul writes: Romans 9:3-4 “For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises”.

@SuperAbebaby 4 жыл бұрын

prayerfully study bible . Holy Spirit lead, Jesus Vs multy billion industrial corporate church though God allowed Jesuits and Carmalites ( education ) and medical service. Study prayerfully and reflect if this is the church of Christ with all its antisemetic activities . Crucifixion wss a Roman punishment and jews were under Romans in Christ’s tims . Pray for truth .

@PaulusTarsus3574 4 жыл бұрын

This site produces one thing that is rarely witnessed or experienced these days. Truth. Keep up the good work Brothers and Sisters.

@AbdulQadir-sp9gc 4 жыл бұрын

@Patrick Montgomery : Learn to read the gospel of barnabas, especially the aramaic one. Barnabas is 1 of the 12 disciple of jesus.

@PaulusTarsus3574 4 жыл бұрын

@Patrick Montgomery keep taking the medication. It takes a while for it to kick in.

@PaulusTarsus3574 4 жыл бұрын

@Patrick Montgomery Cop on, Patrick. If I belive in a coven of gunner-eyed witches, what has that to do with you?

@saranganmida 4 жыл бұрын

@andrewklados4096 Жыл бұрын

Orthodox Ethos 🙏🏻✝️🌷

@annapennrose1158 6 жыл бұрын

Also, Jesus would have known John would be the ONLY Apostle who would not be martyred.

@morelmaster 4 жыл бұрын

This proves Mary had no other children.

@Michael-vj2ub 4 жыл бұрын

Jesus said to John, the disciple he loved; “behold your mother.” Notice Jesus did not say; “ John, behold your mother.” Why? Because John represents Christians throughout all time. We are called, to behold Mary as our spiritual mother and to take her into our home. Where is that home? That home, is where your heart is.

@maximilianthomas3006 4 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-vj2ub That is a terrible case of eisegesis. Read Paul's letters, FAITH ALONE.

@billymykel6578 4 жыл бұрын

Maximilian Thomas Faith is the most important part of a Christian life, but God doesn’t call us to faith alone. God calls us to service, to good works, to many obligations to make our world better and to serve others. We need Mary and the Saints to help us on our walks with God. The argument of faith alone also oversimplifies thousands of years of Christian tradition and theology that has been universally accepted; where in the Bible is the Holy Trinity mentioned? Where does Jesus say he is fully man and fully God? Faith is important, but we need the theology and truths divinely revealed to us through the church in order to grow closer to God.

@markm4033 4 жыл бұрын

@@maximilianthomas3006 the faith alone in Romans was in fact added by Martin Luther, he admitted to that. St. James reads, "faith without works is dead."

@nelsondantas3040 3 жыл бұрын

Dr Brant Pitre is simply outstanding! A man filled with the Holy Spirit...A great gift for the Catholic church!

@fr.paschalclassic4663 3 жыл бұрын

He is indeed a gift. I listen to him everyday. He inspires my priestly life.

@bcalvert321 3 жыл бұрын

Mary did not stay a virgin and the scriptures say Jesus had brothers and sisters as well as cousins.

@shiduschannel5151 Жыл бұрын

@@bcalvert321 I hope you can read Mark 6:3 and mark 15 onwards and compare it please don't judge it by yourself

@bcalvert321 Жыл бұрын

@@shiduschannel5151 Mark 6:3 still could mean His sisters. 3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. Mark 15 does not say anything about cousins either. There is not one commentary that says, cousins. There is no solid proof either way. It seems funny to me that the scriptures seem to use 2 different words for Jesus' kin. It uses cousin for John the Baptist but brothers for everyone else according to you and your church. This does not make any sense in any way.

@djo-dji6018 11 ай бұрын

@@bcalvert321 Did you even watch the video? If Mary was a consacrated virgin (and the evidence is as strong as it gets), she would have not have had children even later in life.

@ricardopulido3956 3 жыл бұрын

Simply brilliant. It is right there in the bible! No confusion. It is clear. Can’t be disputed, so evident and yet we pass over it and let other “sects “ insert doubts and confusion. Thank you Dr Pitre!

@josephzammit8483 Жыл бұрын

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@rafael502 Жыл бұрын

It's so stupid how they can gloss over the facts with a straight face

@timotheehayes6111 6 жыл бұрын

Another point not mentioned about "adelphos", according to the “Greek expression” used by John (1:41) “Andrew (after his encounter with Jesus) went to look for his brother (Peter) “ton adelphon ton idion” (John 1:41). John considers insufficient the word “adelphos” (=brother) to express the relationship between Andrew and Peter who were true blood brothers of the same parents. This is why John says “ton adelphon ton idion.” ( "[Andrew’s] very own brother") This expression is in contrast with the different expression “hoi adelphoi autou” used a little later to describe the meaning of the “brothers of Jesus” (John 2:12; 7:3-10). This is the key to grasping why “adelphos ” can signify “cousin,” “countrymen” (4,45), “townspeople” (7:5). The brothers of Jesus in the gospel of John are his “fellow countrymen,” not true siblings.The terminology that John uses in using the word adelphos thus differs between the way John refers to Jesus’ brethren, and the way John refers to the blood brothers Peter and Andrew. The phraseology makes a distinction in the way adelphos is used. But the fact that Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit, this was a euphemism for a marital bond, thus Joseph could not and would not touch her, the Ark of the New Covenant.

@bcalvert321 5 жыл бұрын

Brother can be used to as can word that means close friend or a relative. John the Apostle was not a relative but was as close as a brother to Jesus.

@mariaaugustine2675 4 жыл бұрын

@Patrick Montgomery Ark of the Covenant will have the presence of God himself, Mary is the Ark of the Covenant because she had Jesus Himself in her Womb from the day of her Immaculate Conception If you believe that Jesus is God, you should agree that no one in this world could have been so close to Jesus except Mary. Just to make it more clear your mother who had brought you into this world is the only person by the will of God was the only person could explain even more clearly to you.

@anthorzeitgeist8162 2 жыл бұрын

GOD'S DETRACTORS, THROUGH THE SEVERAL MALICIOUS DOCUMENTARIES, USE SOME PASSAGES FROM THE GOSPELS AND INTENTIONALLY HIDE AND OMITT OTHER PASSAGES, WHICH ARE VERY CLEAR AND EXPLICIT, REGARDING THE "PREVIOUS HALF-BROTHERS" OF OUR LORD: Mary was always a Virgin. The 6 children belonged to José, the elderly Carpenter, with his wife Melcha, who passed away (and the 6 were much older than the girl Mary, barely 14 years old): José el Carpintero was an old man when he married Mary, 15. He was a widower of the Melcha woman, having six (6) children with her, 4 men and 2 women, obviously all of them older than Mary: The Catholic Encyclopedia, citing the texts contained in the Apocryphal Gospels, writes that Joseph had six children (2 women and 4 men) with a marriage prior to Mary, who, upon becoming a widower, would marry Mary, at the suggestion of the Rabbi of Nazareth, "as a Tutor", since she had lived all her life in the temple with other girls, also virgins, as was obvious and absolutely traditional to Judaism: When he was forty years old, José married a woman named Melcha or Escha for some, Salomé for others, with whom he lived for forty-nine years and with whom he had six boys, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was Santiago (the Lesser, called "the brother of the Lord"). A year after the death of his wife, when the priests announced throughout Judea that they wanted to find in the tribe of Judah some respectable man to marry Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who already had in At that time ninety years, he went to Jerusalem among the candidates, a miracle manifested the election of Joseph made by God, and two years later, the Annunciation took place.40 The Gospel of pseudo-Matthew, establishes that Jesus' brothers were clearly "children of Joseph's previous marriage with Melcha". José began to speak shyly, saying: "I am an old man, and I have children; Why are you giving me this young lady, that she is younger than my grandchildren?" And on a certain day, José called his first-born son, Santiago, and sent him to the garden to gather vegetables. And Joseph, who had come to a party with his sons, James, Joseph, Judah, and Simeon and their two daughters, also attended Jesus, with Mary, his mother, together with his sister Mary of Cleopas. 41 "Whoever believes in Me, is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in Me, stands condemned already, because they have not believed in the Name of God’s one and only Son" Jesus in John's Gospel. AZG

@drummerhq2263 Жыл бұрын

@@mariaaugustine2675 wow, Mary was special, chosen by God. But was just another sinner. This is the beauty of it, that God the Father would use a sinful women to bear His Son. For all have sinned.

@drummerhq2263 Жыл бұрын

Sorry brother, you are wrong. The New Testament writing had a very specific word for cousins “Anepsios” Paul uses “Adelphoi” in 1 Corinthian 9:5 when discussing Jesus brother James. Paul then uses “Anepsios” for cousin in Col 4:10 (Barnabas, cousin of Mark)” In addition, Although scripture is the only authority on a topic, I will indulge you and if we bring in some texts of the early Christians of the Church, we must make the same observation. For example, Hegesippus (2nd century) uses the expression "brothers of the Lord" to speak of James, while elsewhere he also speaks of Jesus' uncles and cousins. In summary, on the purely historical level, it must be admitted that brothers and sisters of Jesus refers to brothers and sisters of blood. Since we name four brothers, and speak of sisters in the plural, we must recognize at least six persons. This conclusion is based on the criterion of multiple attestation (Paul, Mark, John, Matthew, Josephus). It is also established on the philological meaning of the word adelphos, which never has the meaning of cousin in the whole New Testament. To sum up, until the council of Chaldean in 325 A.D., it was understood by predominantly most writings, including the Word of God-The Bible, see Mathew 27:56, Mark 15:40 and more, that indeed James and Joseph (Joses), were sons of Mother Mary and were the blood Brothers of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Blood in antiquity meant full blood. No differentiation was used) Either way the official Roman Catholic view, the Hieronymian view, is incorrect as You now agree and you have retreated to the Epiphanian view of the Eastern Orthodox Church. At best, the Eastern Orthodox viewpoint is teetering on end. Reasonably, as biblical Christian’s we take the preponderance of evidence, including the only authority on topics of theology, Christology, ecclesiology, eschatology, soteriology, the Word of God. We then reach a reasonable conclusion that they are true blood relatives. I take my study of God‘s word seriously, so the final thing I want to say on this topic is for us to remember, this determination is not essential for salvation. Some Christian doctrinal differences are more important than others. This is of lesser importance. Let’s keep that in mind. Salvation comes only through true faith that Jesus Christ is the living Son of God and our Lord and Savior, faith that Jesus died for our sins and was raised from the dead and sits at the right hand of God the father. John 3:16, Romans 3:23-26, and many more. Much love brother ✝️

@aidaruilova140 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent breakdown! The evidence is all in The Bible and early Church history. #Truth

@jp791 5 жыл бұрын

I offer for your consideration: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j653lM5k2bi1p40.html, listen, at least, to Dr. White's opening statement, it speaks volumes.

@alexkrakowski8597 4 жыл бұрын

Grumpy Oldfart your name is fitting.

@smurfsflamanggo7809 4 жыл бұрын

@Grumpy Oldfart haha.. thats what happened when you got slap on your face of the truth!

@smurfsflamanggo7809 4 жыл бұрын

@Grumpy Oldfart yes but then back up with historical records written by the early Church fathers who really were eye witnesses of the Apostles and so its a fact!

@smurfsflamanggo7809 4 жыл бұрын

@Grumpy Oldfart haha. just another story? and what is your source to say its just a story?

@crescentdsouza3728 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Father. You clarified all my doubts. I am a Roman Catholic and have deep faith on the Bible , church and all its teachings. Yet some believers tried to brainwash me and you enlightened my mind. Thank you so much and God bless you and the Catholic church. Amen

@ahojahojish Жыл бұрын

Why would you have doubts? The bible never claims that Marry did not have other children after Jesus. You say you have deep faith in the bible, well then, believe what the bible says. Look at 2 John: "To the lady chosen by God and to her children , whom I love in the truth-and not I only, but also all who know the truth- 2 because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever" Who is John writing to here? To Marry and to her children. No brainwashing needed. The only brainwashing is from the catholic church. But the bible is very clear. Marry was a good wife to Joseph, do you also believe Joseph was a virgin all his life? Because if not, did he cheat on Marry? Of course not. Joseph and Marry were one flesh in marriage as God ordained and had other children. Nothing bad with it at all. Marry was chosen lady by God, blessed servant of the Lord who obeyed the will of the father perfectly. But, Marry is not God. I just dont understand, why catholics have a problem with this. Its not a sin to have kids with your husband/wife you know? Its a blessing.

@Liz-qf2fy Жыл бұрын

Hi dear one, well the facts are those are the children of Mary. She was not a perpetual virgin. Even if she didn't have other children why would she have remained a virgin and been married.

@stevesawicki2062 Жыл бұрын

The Virgin Mary is your mother too Liz

@ahojahojish Жыл бұрын

@@stevesawicki2062 How is Mary our mother too? You mean to say she is a heavinly mother? Where did you get that from? There is no such thing as a heavenly mother. Only heavenly Father - God

@stevesawicki2062 Жыл бұрын

@@ahojahojish since dying breath wish every word out of his mouth was excruciating, our Lord said take this your mother, to the unnamed disciple. To all of us

@punk3388 4 жыл бұрын

I am a cradled Catholic but i want to be defender of Catholic Faith! God bless you all!

@humphreyobanor866 3 жыл бұрын

May God bless you too, and give you the wisdom to do so

@johns1834 2 жыл бұрын

I am sure there are many "born" into a faith, no matter what church, that really don't know what their church teaches. I am happy to finally wake up and get away from the false episcopal church to come home to Rome.

@princechristian7477 2 жыл бұрын

God bless you too, Brother

@pcm7315 Жыл бұрын

Punk33: Every time you go to church and every good you do as a consequence, you're proclaiming to the world you are a believer in Jesus Christ and his holy Roman Catholic church; consequently, a defender of the faith.

@Chaso..sontinellie2141 Жыл бұрын

I was a brought up a Catholic, can you explain revelations 17.4

@BM-yp1qr 2 жыл бұрын

I'm Greek and I was NEVER taught that Jesus had Brothers or sisters who were blood related, this is NOT what the scriptures are saying, AT ALL. Jesus called his disciples and acquittances Brothers just like WE all do to people who are very close to us, without being blood related to them, as simple as that......

@CPATuttle 11 ай бұрын

@ChiefCowpie 4 ай бұрын

They are children of Joseph’s first wife.

@user-jn8nn6bf6v Ай бұрын

@ChiefCowpie No, they are not. They are children of Joseph's brother, Cleophas, and his wife, Mary ("the other Mary" who is mother of James and Joses) as the Scriptures and the Early Church show. Dr. Pitre has made it very plain in this video. The story of Joseph being an old widower with children is apocrypha. The early Church clearly knew these were cousins of Christ, related to him through both his parents. St. Joseph's brother, Cleophas, was married to Our Lady's cousin/relative, "the other Mary" and their children were called Jesus's brothers.

@kristin1659 Ай бұрын

@@ChiefCowpie No, you didn't watch the whole video. Brant refutes that claim.

@ElKabong61 5 жыл бұрын

"Bible believers" do not know the bible. It's like having a family photo album stolen and then the thief tries to piece together stories based only on what he thinks he understands from the pictures.

@bcalvert321 5 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what the teacher above is doing. Changing history to fit his beliefs.

@angelsanchez-kx6oj 5 жыл бұрын

No hes clearying the which mary is who.

@bcalvert321 5 жыл бұрын

@@angelsanchez-kx6oj And he is getting things messed up. Scriptures point toward Joseph and Mary had children after Jesus was born. Matt. 1:18-25

@ElKabong61 5 жыл бұрын

@@bcalvert321 No it doesn't. See 1 Timothy 4:13: "Until I come, attend to the public reading of scripture, to preaching, to teaching." Ka-bong!!

@bcalvert321 5 жыл бұрын

@@ElKabong61 What reading of scripture is that. The Old Testament, not the New. Timothy was written many, many years before the NT. 1 Timothy 4:10-14 10 For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. 11 Command and teach these things. 12 Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity. 13 Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching. 14 Do not neglect the gift you have, which was given you by prophecy when the council of elders laid their hands on you. This is talking to a New Testament Church. Not something 300 years later. The elders were the leaders of the local church.

@ika7622 5 жыл бұрын

Why would Jesus ask John at the Calvary to take care of Mary? In those days I think... it would be greatly offensive to her real sons....if there were any. This argument makes sense.

@jacobsenh7383 5 жыл бұрын

Ivana Tokár Jesus’ brothers did not become believers until after His resurrection (John 7:5). Further, Jesus’ brothers were not present at His crucifixion. Jesus was entrusting Mary to John, who was a believer and was present, rather than entrusting her to His brothers, who were not believers and who were not even present at His crucifixion. As the oldest son in His family, Jesus had a cultural obligation to care for His mother, and He passed that obligation on to one of His closest friends. John would have certainly obeyed this command. Mary was most likely one of the women in the upper room and was present when the church was established in Jerusalem (Acts 1:12-14). She probably continued to stay with John in Jerusalem until her death. It is only later in John’s life that his writings and church history reveal John left Jerusalem and ministered in other areas. This is also confirmed by Acts 8:1 that reads, “On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria.” John was still in the city at this time (perhaps one or two years after the resurrection) and was still there three years after the conversion of Paul (Galatians 2:9). There is no contextual proof within Scripture itself that would point to Jesus broadening Mary’s role as “mother” of all Christians. In fact, Catholic teaching can only point to early church leaders as proof that Jesus meant to establish Mary’s “motherhood” to all believers in Christ or that Mary was a cooperative participant in salvation. John took Mary into his home to care for her. The Bible does not say “from that time on Mary became the mother of all believers.” The beauty of John 19:26-27 is reflected in the care Jesus had for His mother, as well as the care John provided for her. Scripture clearly teaches the importance of caring for widows and the elderly, something Jesus personally applied during His final hours of His earthly ministry. James, the half-brother of Jesus, would later call such care for widows “pure religion.” “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world” (James 1:27).

@jacobsenh7383 5 жыл бұрын

arcunap7 have you considered reading the Holy Bible it says “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14) Matthew 1:21-23, records the fulfillment of the prophecy: "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." (Matthew 1:21-23) On the contrary Now I can better understand why she lost Jesus if she had younger children.

@jacobsenh7383 5 жыл бұрын

arcunap7 The explanation is that Mary and Joseph have faith in their 12 year old son. If he had been an irresponsible child, his parents would never have gone a whole day without knowing his whereabouts. They trusted him and knew he had good judgment. This suggests that Jesus' motive in staying behind was not carelessness or disrespect. Evidently he intentionally let them go in order to demonstrate something more forcefully. The other kids are not mentioned.

@paulfromthefaroeislands5761 5 жыл бұрын

@@acunchevy54 I can not conceive the Idea of Mary braking up with her sons and or daughters because they didn't believe in Jesus, to start with. Mary is not braking up with her sons and or daughters. John stood at the foot of the cross and received Christ’s command to care for His mother. John 19:26 So when Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing there, he said to his mother, “Woman, look, here is your son!” 27 He then said to his disciple, “Look, here is your mother!” From that very time the disciple took her into his own home.

@paulfromthefaroeislands5761 5 жыл бұрын

@@acunchevy54 I am pointing out you do not need to accuse blessed Mary for braking up with here sons and daughters, she would never do that.

@victoralexandrinus 9 ай бұрын

What a sensational video. Quite enlightening. I'm Brazilian, ex-protestant, I'm 17 years old and I'm studying about the Catholic faith. I discovered this video thanks to Fábio Salgado de Carvalho's blog.

@victoralexandrinus 9 ай бұрын

P.S.: I wrote using Google translator. I am still not fluent in the English language.

@musakeros30 7 ай бұрын

He has a video explaining purgatory a very informative for those who study Catholicism. With Dr. Barnt Pitre, you will be enlightened. I also recommend the contents of Dr. Scott Hahn a former protestant theologian who converted to the Catholic Church and Marcus Grodi a former Pastor and also theologian who runs an EWTN Journey Home Program. Greetings from your brother in the Catholic faith from the Philippines. Viva Cristo Rey.

@christinebarker6458 2 жыл бұрын

In Australia, the word 'Brother' is often used as a term of endearment. This is especially so within the Indigenous population. The people often refer to someone as their brother showing that their love for and wish to be close to a certain person is like that of a beloved brother. We also have a famous football club called 'Brothers'.

@jamesrobiscoe1174 2 ай бұрын

"Brother" or "Bro" are common terms between two male close friends. It's also used casually, kind of a throwaway term, a place marker, if you will. When I was young , "brother" was not a casual term between two post-adolescent men. Accordingly, its value can be easily degraded or worthless.

@salamatpatras3556 10 ай бұрын

Than You Very Much Brother Brant. very Much satisfying answer ❤ May God Bless You Abundantly and keep us on right path

@markjoslin9912 4 жыл бұрын

In middle eastern culture cousins are referred to as "brothers" and "sisters". It's that simple

@ronnieevangelista4123 4 жыл бұрын

Your cult bastardizes the true word of God to suit your idolatry. Tsk tsk

@vincent420ish 4 жыл бұрын

Not only in Middle East in South Asia also we call our cousins as brothers and sisters ....

@convert2islaam500 4 жыл бұрын

He could also be a step brother due to Joseph

@ultimouomo11 4 жыл бұрын

Same in many Eastern European, Slavic countries.

@josephessien-obot9853 4 жыл бұрын

In Africa as well. In my African language there's no actual word for brother of sister we only have the gender neutral "my mother's child" or "my father's child" which also mean my mother's brother's or sister's child, yep, my cousins on my mother's side and same thing on my father's. Translated into English like the Greek? Well, that would often result in a narrow and often misinforming.

@RayCamachoOMG 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent as always!

@thedon978 Жыл бұрын

Fabulous and very clear explanation. So much for Luther!

@elberithfoundation 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing amazing beloved brother this clarifies a long pending question. God Bless you Immensely !!!

@jb5997 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you Dr. Pitre

@giovannipagliari1537 4 жыл бұрын

Very enlightening! Thanks Dr. Pitre for your faith-filled research! Very interesting and helpful as always! God bless!

@MrPaconavarrete 7 жыл бұрын

I think the music is very good and for me it helps keeping the message interesting and dynamic. Of course Dr. Pitre is fantastic!!!

@worthwhilediscussion Жыл бұрын

This was thorough. Thank you. But many minds nay be blocked from discernment. God bless you always ✝️📿

@lolitahaque9166 Жыл бұрын

Glory to God for these informations and clarification as well..God bless you more Brother.( knowing more about the Lord Jesus is a fulfilling big achievement for me..I wish to know more about Jesus..😍😍😍)

@Chrisanthie 4 жыл бұрын

What more proof do we need than the meticulous studies you have done of the gospels and of the church fathers to show that the heresies about the " brothers of Jesus" were clever concoctions of the protesting variety, just in order to insult the mother of the saviour. They are the very people who argue that Catholics do not know the scripture, when they them selves have not read the scripture with wisdom and discernment.

@bcalvert321 3 жыл бұрын

The Catholics do not use the scriptures as they should. The scriptures are not definite enough for me to say one way or the other. But The scriptures do say Joseph had sexual relations with her. Matthew 1:25 Joseph did not have sex with Mary until after the baby boy was born. He could well have brothers and sisters. Mark 6:3 ESV / 13 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him. Matthew 12:46 ESV While he was still speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, asking to speak to him. Matthew 13:55 ESV Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? Luke 8:19 ESV Then his mother and his brothers came to him, but they could not reach him because of the crowd. There are several more, the Greek does the word adelphos means brother. Cousin in Geek is xáderfos. The x is very important and it is used in the original greek of the Bible. The church fathers do not want you to know these things.

@user-sx3yy5wg3i 2 жыл бұрын

@@bcalvert321 I am greek and can read from the original text.You are 100 percent right.!!!

@kimberlytancrede5468 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting point since Simeon prophesied that a sword would pierce Mary's heart, in order that the hearts of men may be revealed.

@sunnyjohnson992 Жыл бұрын

John P. Meier, former president of the Catholic Bible Association of America wrote: "In the New Testament 'adelphos' [brother], when used merely figuratively or metaphorically but rather to designate some sort of physical or legal relationship, means only full or half-brother, and nothing else!" Jesus did have brothers and sisters who were born to Joseph and Mary.

@lorrmarie7281 Жыл бұрын

plus catholics wrote the scripture, so if they don't believe catholics why do they believe the book written by catholics?

@hilaryfrank 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic explanation. You have handled this discussion from a very fresh perspective, and a convincing one too. Great insights. Thanks

@lauradinizp 5 күн бұрын

This is the best explanation I have heard about that so far. Sincerely, thank you

@mdg6117 Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! Excellent explanation. God bless the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church!!!

@robertmiller5258 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you - very clear and convincing

@cicprods 5 жыл бұрын

Blessings to you.

@tc2851 5 жыл бұрын

Very very well presented, the credibility of the entire piece hangs on the point that the words ‘brother’ and ‘sister’ as we understand them today are not really relatable to their use in the Gospels.

@jp791 5 жыл бұрын

I offer for your consideration: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j653lM5k2bi1p40.html, listen, at least, to Dr. White's opening statement, it speaks volumes.

@supershooter20 4 жыл бұрын

Very credible explanation. In Asian cultures e.g Chinese ( which make up a lot of people), the same word “brother” and “sister” are used interchangeably for cousins, martial art colleagues and sworn brothers.

@bigotis9042 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for this very detailed and informative video. God bless

@petrospetros5835 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! well done Father. As a Middle Eastern Catholic, your explanation is simply perfect and Biblical. As a Middle Eastern, pls allow me to add what is also missing is all of the 4000 years of Eastern traditions that is so difficult for a western world to grasp. I believe that when the disciples wrote the Bible they did not know that this would become a big issue 2000 years later. Example: it just wouldn't be fair to Americans for a foreigner to come in to the US and interpret its laws without studying the culture and the 200 Yr old traditions... The same way, it just wouldn't be fair for us Middle Eastern Christians to have some Protestant pastor who knows nothing about Middle East customs and 4000 Yr old traditions to pick up a bible and run his mouth about the Holly Family. "Roy Schoeman" a converted Jewish Harvard Professor who was a devoted Jewish who memorised the Tora, and after his conversion to Catholics he explains this particular subject in the most profound traditional way.

@oramairiza2004 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the taking the time to make an excellent commentary. I have always been of the opinion that you have to know and understand the culture of the time. By reading Mathew 19 Verse 16 - 24 (" 16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” 17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]” 20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.") The Question is, What is the Eye of a needle and what is it's actual meaning? Understanding the culture and language of the time leads you to geat a clearer meaning.

@petrospetros5835 4 жыл бұрын

@@oramairiza2004in the " Aramaic Bible" Jesus is talking to his Apostles who are fishermen and he actually says that it's easyer for a "rope" not a camel, to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter Heaven" very similar meanings.

3 жыл бұрын

he is not a Priest

@ioannisfassilis8527 2 жыл бұрын

@@petrospetros5835 The Greek word is kamilon not camel

@rhodiusscrolls3080 2 жыл бұрын

@ Who is not?

@nancy6487 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed very much the detailed teaching presented here! Thank you for taking the time to meticulously explain the scriptures. I would like to suggest that the music acted as a distraction from the talk. It makes it hard to focus. Otherwise it is very helpful!! Thank you.

@johnbitonti2672 Жыл бұрын

Excellent Dr. Pitre!! Thanks🙏

@MegaFrancois09 4 жыл бұрын

I was enlightened! well done!!

@chemnitz-sama6513 4 жыл бұрын

Lutheran who upholds Semper Virgo here. It is a shame to see our numbers dwindling...

@anthorzeitgeist8162 2 жыл бұрын

@johns1834 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video. Turns out, just yesterday someone was telling me Jesus had brother and sisters and the Catholics are wrong. The Spirit clearly guided me to this video and I shared it with them. Whether or not they watch it is entirely between them and God. Thank you.

@CPATuttle 11 ай бұрын

The more you research the more Catholic you’ll become

@DaD-zo6cj 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr Pitre

@victorscarpulla2478 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this info. I needed that.🙏

@naldramos4993 3 жыл бұрын

A very clear explanation... Thanks a lot...

@bro.edmiranda 7 жыл бұрын

Very enriching and enlightening! Thank you Dr Pitre! God bless you! God bless the Catholic Church!

@jacobsenh7383 5 жыл бұрын

Bro. Ed Miranda Jesus’ brothers did not become believers until after His resurrection (John 7:5). Further, Jesus’ brothers were not present at His crucifixion. Jesus was entrusting Mary to John, who was a believer and was present, rather than entrusting her to His brothers, who were not believers and who were not even present at His crucifixion. As the oldest son in His family, Jesus had a cultural obligation to care for His mother, and He passed that obligation on to one of His closest friends. John would have certainly obeyed this command. Mary was most likely one of the women in the upper room and was present when the church was established in Jerusalem (Acts 1:12-14). She probably continued to stay with John in Jerusalem until her death. It is only later in John’s life that his writings and church history reveal John left Jerusalem and ministered in other areas. This is also confirmed by Acts 8:1 that reads, “On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria.” John was still in the city at this time (perhaps one or two years after the resurrection) and was still there three years after the conversion of Paul (Galatians 2:9). There is no contextual proof within Scripture itself that would point to Jesus broadening Mary’s role as “mother” of all Christians. In fact, Catholic teaching can only point to early church leaders as proof that Jesus meant to establish Mary’s “motherhood” to all believers in Christ or that Mary was a cooperative participant in salvation. John took Mary into his home to care for her. The Bible does not say “from that time on Mary became the mother of all believers.” The beauty of John 19:26-27 is reflected in the care Jesus had for His mother, as well as the care John provided for her. Scripture clearly teaches the importance of caring for widows and the elderly, something Jesus personally applied during His final hours of His earthly ministry. James, the half-brother of Jesus, would later call such care for widows “pure religion.” “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world” (James 1:27).

@CartmanMorisato 5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobsenh7383 John 21: 25 makes your argument, and sola scriptura as a whole, completely invalid.

@jacobsenh7383 5 жыл бұрын

Roman Flores 25 There are many other things that Jesus did. If every one of them were written down, I suppose the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. Does it say we must obey and follow these other things . Are sure that they are rightly qouted I do no think so it is only the Bible that is inspired by God. 2 Timothy 3:16 Every scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness. 17 that the person dedicated to God may be capable and equipped for every good work. Revelation 22: 18 If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.

@jp791 5 жыл бұрын

I offer for your consideration: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j653lM5k2bi1p40.html, listen, at least, to Dr. White's opening statement, it speaks volumes.

@rodericktulayba5524 4 жыл бұрын

Bro. Ed Miranda what can you expect from a protestant view? They are a modern liberals today.

@martaghebregziabiher372 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Dr Pitre. I have learnt a lot.

@tomasvalenzuela4044 Жыл бұрын

Great explanation, even though I've never had any doubts. What I wanted to comment on is the background music, I found it distracting. Thank you.

@MegaMeggsie 5 жыл бұрын

AWESOME! Thank you Dr Brant, extremely helpful 😊

@NoOne-me3je 3 жыл бұрын

How confused was that group when someone called "Mary"

@lonelyberg1808 3 жыл бұрын

😂 true

@lorrmarie7281 Жыл бұрын

I have often used that point to confirm the historical truth of the bible. Iit points to authenticity of scripture. Any fictional tome would identify characters with completely different names to avoid confusion. The story of Jesus is, therefore, not fiction.

@luisurgelles2631 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! Great stuff!

@maryannhuxter1376 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful explanation

@sonjabroodryk5169 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining these relationships to us. God bless your work.

@anthorzeitgeist8162 2 жыл бұрын

@mariemaddi 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your videos 🙏. Dr Brant Pitre how can we contact you?

@kfernandes268 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation. Thank you.

@jerryrobertson4422 Ай бұрын

clarified! Thanks Dr. Pitre

@jameswoehlke2605 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative. I would lose the background rhythms, however. The background became rather distracting.

@bluwaterkayaker6622 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation, however, I find the background music, even though very subtle, to be distracting.

@CatholicProductions 5 жыл бұрын

Kindly see the link to the non-background-music version below this comment.

@lizp2806 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you clear as water 💧 👍

@MontsedePaz 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent and really clarifying. I do not understand why reputable scholars still write and publish hypotheses about the supposed brothers of Jesus. They take into account the apocryfa and not what the Fathers left written... The same texts are so clear!

@yohanessunjoko2837 3 жыл бұрын

Its so wonderful to know that our Lady devoted herself to God so much that she didn't think about having another offspring, but followed and loved her only son of God so devoutly.

@anthorzeitgeist8162 2 жыл бұрын

@elizabethmcewen7998 Жыл бұрын

So Joseph and Mary did not have normal marital relations? I don't see how that would make sense.

@donnaberube5480 8 ай бұрын

Matthews' gospel states Joseph did not know her until after Jesus was born.

@whitebeans7292 5 ай бұрын

@@donnaberube5480 The word "until" in english is a translation of the word "heos" of the Greek version. "Heos" does not imply a reversal like until does in English. Some other examples of "heos" in Matthew's gospel include: Matthew 28:20 "I am with you all the days "Heos" the completion of the age." Matthew 11:13 "For all the prophets and the Law prophesied "Heos" John (the Baptist)." Even the Reformers like John Calvin thought "until" was neither for nor against her virginity: "no just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words of the Evangelist (Matthew), as to what took place after the birth of Christ."

@debaterofeverythingpresent2775 3 жыл бұрын

In my culture, if your father has a brother or your mother has a sister, the Children of that Uncle or Aunt would be identified as your brothers and sisters.

@anthorzeitgeist8162 2 жыл бұрын

@paulustarsus 3 жыл бұрын

Top Class clarification. ❤

@orome65 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic Dr Brant Petre

@JRRodriguez-nu7po 5 жыл бұрын

"There's always been a longstanding debate among early Church fathers." Then that is ignored and we get that the early Church fathers were agreed.

@joaquinvelazquez521 4 жыл бұрын

@@icxcnika2037 You guys literrally believe almost the exact same things we do about the Theotokos.

@nicaman1953 4 жыл бұрын

"They will look at the one who was pierced and mourn for him as for an ONLY CHILD, weeping bitterly as for a FIRSTBORN." (Zechariah 12,10 ) Who was PIERCED? Jesus... and Mary mourned for Jesus as Her only child, and She wept for Jesus as Her firstborn.

@lolasobande8663 4 жыл бұрын

Huuun! It's illogical to be a FIRSTBORN and ONLY CHILD. Being a firstborn assumes their were others.

@nicaman1953 4 жыл бұрын

@@lolasobande8663illogical? - Hi, what's your name? - Sarah - And this is...? - He's my son Isaac - Is he your firstborn? - No, I have to wait until I have a second child before I can call him that. So Sarah never had a firstborn because she didn't have a second child, and Isaac was an only child but never a firstborn because his mother didn't have a second child.

@rahelkidane8896 4 жыл бұрын

@@nicaman1953 😃 🤣 great explanation

@tinajohnson3393 4 жыл бұрын

If a woman had 3 children, if one dies she will mourn as if it were her only child. Again I ask why is the sex life of a married woman with her husband a BIG DEAL?

@georgeibrahim7945 4 жыл бұрын

lola sobande the phrase "first-born of all creation" proclaims Christ’s preeminence. As the eternal Son of God, He created the universe. He is the Ruler of creation!

@cianobrien2379 Ай бұрын

Excellent, thank you

@aloysiuskumarm4853 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you and you are correct .

@giovannipagliari1537 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very interesting and informative! God bless you in your ministry!

@ejmattdelacruz1358 5 жыл бұрын

Good research. Thanks a lot.

@jp791 5 жыл бұрын

I offer for your consideration: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j653lM5k2bi1p40.html, listen, at least, to Dr. White's opening statement, it speaks volumes.

@gen1fierro 4 жыл бұрын

She was betrothed, in effect married, but not consummated!!

@brianthembadlamini4923 10 ай бұрын

very informative

@julianar.scheidemantel 4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much! 🙏🏽✝️

@annemariekoutsky5054 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a clear explanation of these relatives of Jesus. I was wondering, I think I heard that in Jewish law, when a husband died, the wife was married off to her brother-in-law, who was legally responsible for her.( And multiple wives were still allowed in the Roman territories until about the 5th century. So, St. Joseph died sometime after Jesus's 12th BD, so maybe Cleopas as Joseph's brother had the legal care of Mary, so all the cousins were grouped as brothers and sisters.

@LuisMartinez-zd2vl 2 жыл бұрын

An insightful observation. Thank you for that.

@keytonbush3925 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if this would also explain the Eastern view that Jesus’ “brothers” were sons of Joseph. Basically it would be known that his cousins lived in the same household, and some thought they were the sons of Joseph as a result.

@RogerCanda Жыл бұрын

I wonder why and how did you came to a conclusion that St. Joseph died after Jesus’ 12 birthday. I read somewhere that the popular view is, St. Joseph died at around when Jesus started his ministry which means St. Joseph died when Jesus was 30 years old. Also it was not Cleopas that took care of Mother Mary, it was John the disciple that took care of her. In the Gosple of John (Jn 19:26-27) 26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home. It is obvious it was the disciple that took care of Mother Mary and not Cleopas.

@RogerCanda Жыл бұрын

@@keytonbush3925 According to Catholic teaching, St. Joseph also kept his virginity until his eternal rest.

@jzak5723 Жыл бұрын

@@RogerCanda More likely that Jesus took care of his mother when Joseph died, and then when Jesus died, he gave his mother to John the Apostle.

@simongleaden2864 2 жыл бұрын

02:21 - 02:30 I strongly disagree with what Dr. Pitre says here. I disagree that Mary has taken some kind of vow of virginity. At that time she was *betrothed* to Joseph but NOT actually married to him. They had not solemnized, nor, obviously, consummated the marriage. As a good, well brought-up Jewish girl she had kept her virginity until this point, as girls were expected to be virgins when they married. There is no need to infer any special vow of virginity at that point: she had simply kept herself pure and virgo intacta as girls were expected to do, at least those girls who expected to marry a respectable man.

@sliglusamelius8578 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently there was a betrothed marriage situation that would normally have involved sexual relations in Jewish customs. I think Pitre explains it in a book.

@essejbardelas9249 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for more understanding..,

@jamesedward9262 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent research and well presented evidence. Case closed!

@miltond154 5 жыл бұрын

Jesus did not have brother or sister. Bible says , when Jesus was teaching, someone said your Mother and brother are waiting . In Middle East , cousin brother or sister are called BROTHER OR SISTER. Even now , they dont call their cousins , cousin brother or cousin sister. I met so many people in Oman, UAE and Qatar and these guys introduced to me their cousin as BROTHER or SISTER. I asked them why they dont says cousin brother or sister, they informed their custom is to call all cousins BROTHER or SISTER. This is even now. I heard some of Indian still call their cousins 'BROTHER or SISTER'.

@michaeldukes4108 5 жыл бұрын

Stretch.

@CartmanMorisato 5 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldukes4108 Nope. Same can be said for certain Latino cultures, though it is more archaic, it is still a thing. #GetCultured You know what IS a stretch though? Believing "sola scriptura" when there are 7 books missing from your Bible and the Bible itself says that there are things not recorded in it that Jesus did.

@annettea4334 4 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldukes4108 I don't think it's a stretch. My siblings are much older than I am and I grew up with my 2 cousins who are my age. Even now I consider them as my sisters even more than my siblings who left home when I was little. My aunt always said I was her 3rd daughter. She and my uncle were like 2nd parents to me. I love my siblings but my cousins are more like sisters to me. So no, no stretch at all.

@monicabermea7652 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you thank You thank you. God be blessed in your work!

@ourlifeinwyoming4654 2 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@BlueSky-zn8wp 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Specially the way you point out Jesus him self wouldn't have told John to takecare of his mother if she had other children

@vinciblegaming6817 2 жыл бұрын

This was far better information than the guy who asserts they could be Joseph’s children from a previous marriage (where we lack their attendance in Bethlehem at the nativity and the flight to Egypt). The most compelling was actually pointing out that Jesus put Mary in John’s care. This past week, we studied Ruth and the redeemer bridegroom but I had pointed out it wasn’t just the levirate bridegrooms that redeemed the motherless, but their sons that redeem them. Tamar and Ruth are foreshadows of Mary. They were redeemed by their sons, Mary’s son redeems the whole world. Tamar, especially, as she is “married” to Judah but never “knows” him again.

@Braingrandchild 10 ай бұрын

Lol idk why but lacking Joseph’s “other children” on the census just is so funny to me. You nailed it.

@iggyantioch 10 ай бұрын

Jesus was 12 when the went up to festival. No mention of his brothers,sisters?

@theresamc4578 3 ай бұрын

Well, if Joseph was a widower his children could have been adults and responsible for themselves to register at a different time. It appears from Scripture that neither Mary nor Joseph shared with others (except for Elizabeth) the miracle of the divine conception of Jesus. We must remember that the Gospels are not a "biography" like we have today, but a presentation of the good news as taught by the apostles.

@vinciblegaming6817 3 ай бұрын

@@theresamc4578 there’s some belief that Luke got his information from Mary.

@marcokite 2 жыл бұрын

Hail Mary Immaculate, EVER Virgin!

@garyshirinian 4 жыл бұрын

Well explained. Thx

@HarleyGirl75 9 ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@ElKabong61 5 жыл бұрын

2 siblings with the same name? This only happens in George Foreman's family!

@jhonbopg748 5 жыл бұрын

It's not sibling.. Stop being dumb.

@jepizzo2 4 жыл бұрын

It does not make sense that Mary's sister would also be called Mary. Mary's sister was Salome the wife of Zebedee. See comparisons of parallel accounts below: (Matt 27:55-56) And many women were there watching from a distance, who had accompanied Jesus from Galʹi·lee to minister to him; 56 among them were Mary Magʹda·lene and Mary the mother of James and Joʹses and the mother of the sons of Zebʹe·dee. (Mark 15:40) There were also women watching from a distance, among them Mary Magʹda·lene as well as Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joʹses, and Sa·loʹme, 41 who used to accompany him and minister to him (John 19:25) By the torture stake of Jesus, however, there were standing his mother and his mother’s sister; Mary the wife of Cloʹpas and Mary Magʹda·lene. So, watching Jesus were 4 women, three named Mary and Salome. Mary the wife of Clopas is therefore the mother of James the Less and Jo'ses. This only leaves Salome as Mary's sister, the mother of the sons of Zebedee (Jesus' Apostle's James and John.) The only reason this video argument is being made is that Catholic doctrine holds that Mary was a Virgin ALL of her life and find inconvenient that the Bible indicates Jesus had brothers and sisters. There is nothing in the Bible which says Mary had to remain a virgin forever despite being a married woman. She only refrained from relations with Jesus UNTIL she gave birth to Jesus. (This was to make clear Jesus was not Joseph's fleshly son.) His brothers and sisters were younger than him. (Matt 1:24-25) Joseph woke up from his sleep and did as the angel of Jehovah had directed him, and he took his wife home. 25 But he did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son, and he named him Jesus. KJV And he knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son. (As another point, "Firstborn" son seems to indicate there were more sons later.) Considering how important having children was to Jewish women back then (remember Samuel's mother?) I'd like some proof of Dr. Pitre's claim married women could take a vow of abstinence. I doubt the husbands would go along with that. What would be the point of marrying. Even though it says Joseph was planning on secretly divorcing her, back then being engaged was considered like being already married. This is why they had not started having sex yet, they hadn't had the official ceremony yet. The Greek Scriptures use distinct words for “brother,” “relative,” and “cousin.” (Luke 21:16; Colossians 4:10) so brothers did not mean cousins. Jesus entrusted Mary's care to John, his cousin, rather than to his fleshly brothers, because they were not believers yet and he was caring first for her spiritual welfare. (John 7:5) His brothers were, in fact, not exercising faith in him. After his resurrection, Jesus appeared to his fleshly brothers and this convinced them. They thereafter became his followers. Thus, they were with Mary at Pentecost. (Acts 1:14) With one purpose all of these were persisting in prayer, together with some women and Mary the mother of Jesus and with his brothers. Here are some relevant links showing what the Bible teaches on these matters. www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/was-jesus-married/ www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/virgin-mary-immaculate-conception/ www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/about-jesus/

@claudetteearle3052 4 жыл бұрын

ElKabong61 they're just trying to explain away the Mary continuous virgin myth and keep Jesus as God, so of course thy e got to try and scramble something together ....Mary, Mary...oh, please.....

@ewankerr3011 4 жыл бұрын

What do you expect the video to say? He is defending the official teaching of the Church? You, on the other hand, are giving the view of a different group.

@claudetteearle3052 4 жыл бұрын

Ewan Kerr aren’t we all?

@Deuterium2H 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent commentary, Dr. Pitre...but please have your production people nix the incessant and irritating background music. My goodness, that is distracting.

@smurfsflamanggo7809 4 жыл бұрын

i love the background music! 🤣🤣🤣 sorry, this might offend you but i really do love the bckgnd music

@JustinWest 4 жыл бұрын

The thing that bothered me is when you started talking about eusebius but showed a picture of Augustine

@borneandayak6725 4 жыл бұрын

@@smurfsflamanggo7809 yes the music background is good.

@pcm7315 3 жыл бұрын

I agree: the music is distracting.

@deangramlick6539 Жыл бұрын

I am trying to find the references you used, Eusebius Church History I went to Bk 4 and could not find the reference. Where did I miss it??

@frankbatista4guitar 4 жыл бұрын

VERY VERY WELL DONE...

@vinceonyoutube 4 жыл бұрын

Here is a good document I found that basically sums up what this video is all about. MATTHEW 13:55-56, and MARK 6:3, both say, "Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the brother of JAMES, and JO'SES (JOSEPH), and of JUDE and SIMON? And are not His sisters here with us?" (Note! Only the 'carpenter' is called 'THE Son of Mary', not 'A Son of Mary') Some people refer to these verses as 'proof', that Mary had other children. See also: Mt 12:46, Mk 3:31, Lk 8:19, Jn 7:5. Now using the Bible, we are about to explode forever, the myth that Christ had siblings. The word: 'Brethren'...appears over 530 times in the Bible. 'Brother' - appears over 350 times. 'Sister' - appears over 100 times. 'Sisters' - appears over 15 times. BRETHREN: This is a plural word for 'brother'. BROTHER: The Hebrew word 'ACH', is ordinarily translated 'brother'. The Jews at that time, used it in a broader sense to express kinship. Even today, the word is used in a larger meaning, so that friends, allies, fellow believers, and fellow citizens can be included in the same brotherhood. It was no different in the time of Christ. There are four classes of meanings of the word 'brother'. The first class is BROTHER BY NATURE (sons of the same parents) Genesis 4:1-2 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD." And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a tiller of the ground. The second class is BROTHER BY KINSHIP Genesis 13:8 Then Abram said to Lot, "Let there be no strife between you and me, and between your herdsmen and my herdsmen; for we are brothers (i.e. related, as uncle and nephew) The third class is BROTHER BY RACE Genesis 19:4-7 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them." Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. The fourth class is BROTHER BY LOVE 2 Sam 1:26 I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women. (David of his friend Jonathan) Rom 12:10 love one another with brotherly affection; outdo one another in showing honor. Rom 14:10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother (Paul speaking of Christians) How many times have you seen T.V. Evangelists address their audiences as 'Our brothers and sisters'? Marian detractors accept the last three meanings to suit themselves, but when it comes to Mary, the mother of GOD, they always refer to the first meaning. Is this fair to her? How do you explain this? In 1Cor 15:6, Jesus appeared to five hundred 'brothers' at one time. Could all of these be blood brothers? Hardly. Then there is Peter speaking before one hundred and twenty brothers in Acts 1:15-16. Paul speaks of a 'brother or sister' in 1 Cor 5:11 when referring to a fellow believer. The Bible has many more similar verses. Now we have four 'brothers', JAMES, JO'SES, SIMON, and JUDE to account for as written in Mk 6:3. Mk 15:40, "There were also women looking on afar off: among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of JAMES the less, and of JO'SES, and Salome." These people were at the crucifixion. Jn 19:25, "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother (Mary) and His mothers sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene." Mt 10:2-3, "...'JAMES' the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddeus." Alphaeus is an alternate translation of Cleophas (Clophas) and so he is the same person. Acts 1:13, "...JAMES, the son of Alphaeus, and SIMON Zelo'tes, and JUDE the brother of JAMES." From these four passages, we see we have another 'Mary', who was the wife of Cleophas (Alphaeus), and the mother of three of Jesus's 'brethren', JAMES (the less), and JO'SES, and JUDE. This clearly shows that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was not the mother of JAMES, JO'SES, and JUDE of Mk 6:3. To keep Mk 6:3 in harmony, since three are not children of Mary (the mother of Jesus), then SIMON is not either. SIMON is the Canaanite (Mk 3:18) also called the 'Zealot' (Zelo'tes), Mt 10:4, Lk 6:15, Acts 1:13. Jude, who authored the Epistle of Jude, says he is the brother of James in Jude 1:1. Jude was also called 'Thaddeus' in Mt 10:3, and in Mk 3:18. This was to distinguish him from Judas Iscariot. Lk 6:16 further distinguishes the two by saying, "And Judas (Jude) the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor." Jn 19:26-27, "When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple standing by, whom He loved..." The disciple was John, the author of the Gospel of John. "Then He said to the disciple, BEHOLD THY MOTHER." Was John a child of Mary and blood brother of Jesus? Read the following verses to see... Mk 1:19, "...He saw James, the son of Zebedee, and 'JOHN', his brother." Mk 3:17, "And James the son of Zebedee, and 'JOHN' the brother of James." In neither of these passages is it said that Jesus saw a blood brother or even recognized them as men that He knew. Mt 27:56, "Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James Mt 20:20, (the less) and Jo'ses, and the mother of Zebedee's children." Mk 15:40, "...among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James (the less), and Salome (mother of Zebedee's children)." Lk 24:10, "It was Mary Magdalene...and Mary ('the other Mary') the mother of James (the less)..." A comparison of Mt 27:56, and Mk 15:40, clearly shows that Zebedee had a wife whose name was Salome. She is called the 'mother of Zebedee's children' in Mt 27:56, and 'Salome' in Mk 15:40. They had two children, JOHN and JAMES, (Mk 3:17). JOHN at the foot of the cross to whom Jesus gave His mother, was not a child of Mary, the mother of Jesus, but of Zebedee and Salome. If Jesus had blood brothers, why then did He not give His mother to them? Jewish law would have demanded it... GENEALOGY: Zebedee + Salome > begat James and John Cleophas (Alphaeus) + Mary (the other "Mary" in Mt 27:56, 61, 28:1, Jn 19:25) > begat James (the less), Jo'ses, and Jude THE HOLY SPIRIT + Blessed Virgin Mary > begat JESUS THE CHRIST This 'Genealogy' shows who the real parents of the 'brothers' in Mark 6:3, and Matthew 13:55, are, and makes the word 'brother' a non-argument. Additional notes... Mt 1:25, "And knew her not till...". The old meaning of the word 'till' or 'until', meant an action did not occur up to a certain point. It does not imply the action did occur later. Gen 8:7, "He sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, 'until' the waters were dried up off the earth." 2 Sam 6:23, "...the daughter of Saul had no child 'until' the day of her death." Did she have a child after she died? Lk 1:34, "Then said Mary unto the Angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" This shows Mary had no relations with a man before and was virgin. Lk 2:7, "And she brought forth her 'firstborn' Son and wrapped Him in swaddling clothes..." Firstborn, at the time of the writing of the Gospels, meant, 'the child that opened the womb'. See Ex 13:2 and Num 3:12. Firstborn does not imply that Mary had other children, as an ONLY son, IS a 'FIRSTBORN SON'. NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT MARY, THE MOTHER OF JESUS, HAD OTHER CHILDREN. WHY THEN, DO SOME INSIST THAT SHE DID? Bible References: Gen 8:7, Gen 25:21-26, Gen 29:5,15, Ex 13:2, Num 3:12, Num 8:26, Deut 23:7, 1Sam 30:23, 2Sam 1:26,6:23, 1King 9:13, 2King 10:13-14, 2Chron 29:34, Mt 1:25, Mt 4:21, Mt 10:2-4, Mt 12:46, Mt *12:50, Mt 13:55-56, Mt 20:20, Mt 26:26, Mt 27:56,61, Mt 28:1, Mk 1:19, Mk 2:14, Mk 3:17-21,31,35, Mk 6:3, Mk 15:40,47, Lk 1:34, Lk 2:7 Lk 2:41-51, Lk 5:10, Lk 6:16, Lk 8:19, Lk 24:10, Jn 7:2-7, Jn 19:25-27, Acts 1:13-16, Rom 8:29, 1Cor 5:11, 1Cor 9:5, 1Cor 15:6, Gal 1:19, 1Pet 5:12, Jude 1:1 Why Does This Matter? A reasonable question, though, is why any of this matters. Ultimately, it would seem that Mary’s virginity or not is unrelated to anything that would have to do with our salvation, and while that might be technically correct, per se, the danger comes from the disobedience that such a belief causes. If we can deny the Church’s teaching on this, pretending even to use the Bible to do it, then this leads to doubts elsewhere. If we can be led to believe that the Church is wrong about this, what else might she be wrong about? Bit by bit, brick by brick, our faith is eroded, until one day we decide the Church is wrong about everything, and leave. From there, we have spoken Satan’s mantra “I will not serve,” which is exactly what he wants for us to say and do. The Church has made it infallibly clear that Mary was ever-virgin, and the Bible clearly indicates that she bore no other children. Unfortunately, we have only closed one argument that Satan uses to lead souls out of the Church. He will simply find other means to do so now. Our hope is that someone will read this article and ask instead, “Hmm...what else is the Church RIGHT about?” and come to know and love the very church that Christ established on earth, so that salvation can be theirs.

@smidlee7747 2 жыл бұрын

MATTHEW @-56, and MARK 6:3, both say, "Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the brother of JAMES, and JO'SES (JOSEPH), and of JUDE and SIMON? And are not His sisters here with us?" (Note! Only the 'carpenter' is called 'THE Son of Mary', not 'A Son of Mary') In the exact statement THE brother of James , Joseph and of Jude and Simon and not a brother of James. How did you missed the "The" when it came to list of brothers? Also they were not making the argument of perpetual virginity but proclaiming Jesus was just an average person with a father, mother , brothers and sister just like everyone else. It makes a lot of sense that Jesus came down not as a king's son but came down and lived in a poor and average family just like his own people. Trying to make his family different from the rest of his people in the first century is denying that Jesus purpose to lived totally as we do. If he had super duper parents then Jesus wouldn't be growing up in a normal home like the average person in that day.

@timbradson1267 5 жыл бұрын

A few years back there was a forum which closed and no longer in the WEB. It was a Baptist, Protestant, Catholic debate forum. It was pretty civil and both Protestants and Catholics were very respectful of each other. There was a gent who was constantly “spanked” , shall we say, on this same subject and many others, by Catholic debaters. He used all sorts of rhetoric and repeated it over and over without any substance. He condemned those that clearly debunked his replies to hell and used terms like “gormless” “Stop telling lies,” “the Catholic church isn’t holy or apostolic”, “someone telling you porkies”, “Catholics are of the devil” ; exactly the same type of rhetoric that this so called “Dr.Alan Hales” uses. Even some Protestants would stay away from him. He was eventually banned. I see the exact same baseless replies from this “Dr. Alan Hales” as the guy that used the name “GOD4ME”. He never gave any responses with substance and when challenged he would never reply directly but would post over and over “stop telling lies”, “you are gormless”, etc., etc . How sad that an individual continues with such hatred. We must pray for this Dr. Alan Hales, alias God4Me.

@jzak5723 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, this Dr. Hales is mean and bitter towards Catholicism, but it's due to his obvious indoctrination against the Catholic church. We can continue to defend the truth to him, but other than that there is nothing we can do, only our prayers for him, and his reaching out in prayer to God will bring him closer to the truth that he is obviously seeking deep within.

@Aryalanae Жыл бұрын

Dr Pitre is my favorite theologian to go to.

@marihinojosa6364 7 ай бұрын

Would you consider doing a complete bible study for Catholics? I've been wanting to participate or watch bible study and my small parish doesn't offer it. I love watching your videos and I know you could help us cradle Catholics learn more about our faith

@trudyfriedrich7416 6 ай бұрын

He has done this on many subjects. They can be found on FORMED website. This is produced by Augustine Institute in Denver. Dr Pitre is one of their instructors.

@trudyfriedrich7416 6 ай бұрын

You can also get many bible studies directly from Catholic Productions. They come in many formats and include class notes. They are not as complete as Augustine Institute studies but I have many and they are very good.

@jerryg3524 4 жыл бұрын

very important clarification thanks Dr. Brant. Some Protestant Christians take all this literally and see them as children of the Virgin, or of Joseph by a previous marriage. In cultures such as the Chinese where the so-called "extended family" still exists today they often call others, who are merely close friends but not real kin, brothers or sisters. I wonder if it was the same in Jesus' time

@drummerhq2263 Жыл бұрын

The New Testament writing had a very specific word for cousins “Anepsios” Paul uses “Adelphoi” in 1 Corinthian 9:5 when discussing Jesus brother James. Paul then uses “Anepsios” for cousin in Col 4:10 (Barnabas, cousin of Mark)” In addition, Although scripture is the only authority on a topic, I will indulge you and if we bring in some texts of the early Christians of the Church, we must make the same observation. For example, Hegesippus (2nd century) uses the expression "brothers of the Lord" to speak of James, while elsewhere he also speaks of Jesus' uncles and cousins. In summary, on the purely historical level, it must be admitted that brothers and sisters of Jesus refers to brothers and sisters of blood. Since we name four brothers, and speak of sisters in the plural, we must recognize at least six persons. This conclusion is based on the criterion of multiple attestation (Paul, Mark, John, Matthew, Josephus). It is also established on the philological meaning of the word adelphos, which never has the meaning of cousin in the whole New Testament. To sum up, until the council of Chaldean in 325 A.D., it was understood by predominantly most writings, including the Word of God-The Bible, see Mathew 27:56, Mark 15:40 and more, that indeed James and Joseph (Joses), were sons of Mother Mary and were the blood Brothers of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Blood in antiquity meant full blood. No differentiation was used) Either way the official Roman Catholic view, the Hieronymian view, is incorrect as You now agree and you have retreated to the Epiphanian view of the Eastern Orthodox Church. At best, the Eastern Orthodox viewpoint is teetering on end. Reasonably, as biblical Christian’s we take the preponderance of evidence, including the only authority on topics of theology, Christology, ecclesiology, eschatology, soteriology, the Word of God. We then reach a reasonable conclusion that they are true blood relatives. I take my study of God‘s word seriously, so the final thing I want to say on this topic is for us to remember, this determination is not essential for salvation. Some Christian doctrinal differences are more important than others. This is of lesser importance. Let’s keep that in mind. Salvation comes only through true faith that Jesus Christ is the living Son of God and our Lord and Savior, faith that Jesus died for our sins and was raised from the dead and sits at the right hand of God the father. John 3:16, Romans 3:23-26, and many more. Much love brother ✝️

@iggyantioch 10 ай бұрын

Nice post. Please address this Catholics evidence from scriptures answering this Question.

@fordmaidenamill5196 5 жыл бұрын

Curiosity question. Had Greek changed that much from the writing of the Gospels to Eusebius' time that the word "cousin" wasn't available to the Gospel writers? If they meant cousin why didn't they just say cousin?

@morelmaster 5 жыл бұрын

Because the Greek word for brother, "adelphos", can mean cousin among other relationships. Hebrew and Aramaic had no special word for cousin, so when the Koine Greek Septuagint translation of the OT was written, the translators used "adelphos" to refer to relationships other than blood siblings, and one of these relationships was of cousins. When the NT Jewish Gospel authors wrote, they followed not only the Septuagint's use of "adelphos", but also how it was still being used in their current Jewish culture. It is true that at the time of the Gospels, there was a specific word for cousin in Koine Greek, which was "anepsios", but that Greek word only appears a total of ONE time in the whole NT, which shows that it wasn't commonly used in writing, and instead the more common word "adelphos" was used because it had historically been the predominant way of addressing cousins both in speech and writing.

@fordmaidenamill5196 5 жыл бұрын

@@morelmaster Still a somewhat strange choice given the availability of a word as evidenced by your citation. Seems they' d have wanted to make it clear the ones mentioned were cousins if they knew Mary to be a perpetual virgin. It would have strengthened the Catholic argument.

@morelmaster 5 жыл бұрын

@@fordmaidenamill5196 Of course it would have solidified the Catholic argument if the Greek "anepsios" was used, but we cannot argue from that point alone, nor do we need to, because of the historical use of the word "adelphos" to also mean cousin. YOU: Seems they' d have wanted to make it clear the ones mentioned were cousins if they knew Mary to be a perpetual virgin. ME: We shouldn't just assume that the authors KNEW she would maintain perpetual virginity throughout her life when they were writing. Let's not forget, the NT is about JESUS, not his family and other things. As Catholics, we don't believe that ALL TRUTH comes from Scripture alone. The Bible is TRUTH, but so is the authority of the Church to teach from the Holy Spirit, and some teachings are not explicitly revealed in Scripture, but only implicitly, and the Church through the Holy Spirit later shed more light on some things that were not quite as clear. The PVM is one of those teachings.

@fordmaidenamill5196 5 жыл бұрын

@@morelmaster What about Gal. 1:19. Granted Paul was certainly Jewish, but he bent over backwards to reach and accommodate his gentile converts. Why would he not have used "cousin" speaking to a predominantly Greek audience in that region?

@morelmaster 5 жыл бұрын

@@fordmaidenamill5196 I'm not going to try to get into the mind of Paul and question why he said things the way he did, are YOU in a better position to do that?

@blackrocket673 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding .

@ThanksStJoseph 4 жыл бұрын

Hail Full of Grace!

@alexmarker881 4 жыл бұрын

Psalm 69:8 I am a foreigner to my own family, a stranger to my own mother’s children; (messianic prophecy) John 7:5 For neither did his brethren believe in him. (Prophecy fulfilled by Jesus Christ)

@dylanfernandez3910 4 жыл бұрын

Psalm 69:8 doesn't relate to Jesus. Read the entire psalm 69

@dylanfernandez3910 4 жыл бұрын

@@icxcnika2037 It's not a prophecy lol. It's a poem by David. Don't you think that if Jesus had brothers they would actually know he's the Son of God lmao

@dylanfernandez3910 4 жыл бұрын

@@icxcnika2037 I know. While that may be a prophecy fulfilled by Christ, it still doesn't prove that these "brethren" were actually sons of Mary.

@TheRootedWord Жыл бұрын

In Slavic languages brother means any male to whom you're related within your own generation. So I've had someone tell me some man is her brother only to find out she has no brothers and he is a cousin or a second cousin, but young enough to be in her generation.

@CK-ub7jf 6 ай бұрын

5 Stars. Thanks.

@_dcoolgirl 5 жыл бұрын

Thx a lot for this answer of Jesus brothers I wanted to knw thiis. Gbu

@ewankerr3011 5 жыл бұрын

Shame he talks rubbish and ignores the obvious truth.

4 жыл бұрын

At 2:30 he said that Mary is already married ?????????? Can someone tell me where it says that Mary was already married when the angle first visited her ?????

@RickJaeger 4 жыл бұрын

I believe he meant "married" as in betrothed. She was "pledged to be married" to Joseph.

@debbiebarrettstevens8245 4 жыл бұрын

You are correct in questioning this. Joseph and Mary were engaged, not married, when she got pregnant with Jesus by the Holy Spirit. Matt 1:18 states: "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit." They weren't married yet. This was how they proved that she was still a virgin. My guess is that they weren't together yet, like an arranged marriage. I'm guessing that family verified this.

@paxcoder 4 жыл бұрын

Addressed at the beginning of this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gteUiZaIz8y9nac.html Remember the mystical Body of Christ is called the Bride, and that Jesus says He is going to "prepare a home" for us John 14:3 .

4 жыл бұрын

@@paxcoder What exactly are you trying to say, your post is confusing

@paxcoder 4 жыл бұрын

@ What you said, and relating it to our relationship with Christ

@chiajoegm1045 4 жыл бұрын

Ezekial 44:2, says the gate which God passes though would be shut . So no way Mary's womb can be the gateway for others to come into the world.

@billymykel6578 4 жыл бұрын

Chizzle Maestro If you are asking whether Catholic pray to Mary yes, if you ask if we worship her, no. Mary (and all the other Saints) is able to, through the power of God (in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit), hear our prayers and can intercede on our behalf’s. It’s God’s power that makes everything. It is like asking a friend to pray for you, asking a friend for advice, or just having someone to talk to.

@allopez8563 4 жыл бұрын

@@Christian-ut2sp Captious question. Actually you should read Eusebius. This video is somewhat tedious father Luis Toro explained this much more vividly, all the men called the brothers of Jesus were relatives or spiritual brothers.

@nevig6557 4 жыл бұрын

Lol..the temple gate has nothing to do with Mary. She was a virgin for the birth of Jesus. .but after that was exactly the wife of Joseph. .and had children.

@supershooter20 4 жыл бұрын

Some people are like Pharisees. They saw for themselves the miracles that Jesus did but still refuse to believe in him partly because he chastised them for their hypocrisy. Many people are like that. Even if the facts are laid before them the refuse to accept. As Jesus did say “Do not cast pearls among ( a certain kind of animal)” but to “shake the dust from your feet and sandals” as you leave them. (And by the way I am a Catholic and a Legion of Mary member . Someone thought I was a non-Catholic and verbally attacked me because I quoted the Bible!)

@nevig6557 4 жыл бұрын

@@supershooter20 Shame..by deeper investigation you'll find that the apparitions of "Mary" to the children was one of Satan's coolest deceptions. ..So much like those that deny Jesus. .you may have similar inclinations regarding "Mary"...yet at its roots under the deception is idolatry..repetitive useless prayer..false intercessorship and more. Mary was blessed highly...saw out her assigned task, and like all needed a saviour. .And she now rests. Contrary to what you may imagine. .she's not privy to any deep secrets of YHWH. .nor can intercede for people in any form. I encourage you to find your way to Jesus erasing all DISTRACTION. Mary is the virgin mother of Jesus and is blessed..but there ends her task. So..maybe you'll figure things out in time..or perhaps not.