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This is scary; this makes me nervous and depressed!!

I don't know of any other channel - nor do I really need to - that exclusively covers these old, little known cases. There are several good true crime channels, but they are competing with each other, often covering the very same cases. It must take a lot of work to investigate some forgotten crimes from the 19th century, as opposed to something like Alexander Pichushkin or the older, but very well known Villisca Axe Murders of 1912.

@@roddymcniven8734 if you take offence at a name being mispronounced, then you need help. Plenty of Australian words are mispronounced, so fkn what. Its the content of the story that matters not a few mispronounced Maori words. Get a life.

@@BriefCaseOfficial This week is Maori language week. With due respect, allow me to suggest you do a little research on Maori pronunciation. As an NZer, it was a little like nails down a blackboard at times. However, don't let that deter you. The Burgess Gang are part of the fabric of colonial New Zealand so thank you for not only telling the tale but also the great images you've included. Maungatapu is pronounced: Mawn - ga - tah - pu with the 'g' being said softly and kept in the throat from the preceeding 'n'. I'm not fluent in _Te reo_ (maori language) but I and many _pakeha_ (non Maori citizens) are working towards having Maori be the equivalent of English, rather than secondary language. Which is kind-of crazy considering Maori were here centuries before colonisation.

Wow, the booklet must be a pretty valuable

That is very interesting

Very interesting!

I'm surprised some museum hasn't contacted you, that's really interesting. 👍🏻👍🏻

That’s so neat! 😮

There are many more predators “nowadays” due to the internet and social media. But, yes, evil has always existed.

It was easier to get away with murder back in the day. Just listen to nurses tell stories about old people they are taking care of who are close to death and start admitting things. It's disturbing.

@@rebekahdavis5935 I'd have killed myself if I lived a lie, and was actually a scumbag.

Back then if it happened somewhere else you didn't hear about it is one reason it seems worse today

Dear Mary Roberts: You are WRONG !!! Crime as we know it today only started circa 1800, at the start of the Industrial Revolution. To wit, the first organized police dept "in the world" was established in London in 1828. The first organized police dept in America was established in New York City in 1842. The first modern prison in England was the Pentonville Prison which opened in 1842, while the first modern prison in America was Eastern Penitentiary in Philadelphia which was completed in 1832. >>It is easy to see why someone would think that Crime as we know it today has existed forever, because NO One has EVER asked why modern prisons and organized police depts weren't apparently necessary before 1800. That's because NO One wants to admit that Crime is a function of the brutal conditions in the first large, dark, dirty cities of the Industrial Revolution where people were packed together like sardines in a can. NO One wants to admit that Crime is a function of the Predatory Capitalism of the Early Industrial Revolution, where Greedy Industrialists treated common people like inanimate objects to be exploited both as employees and as consumers, rather than as full fledged human beings. >>The "pollution" that is now accepted as having begun with the Industrial Revolution is just the Physical Pollution of the land, air, and water. But there is another type of "pollution" that began around 1800, and still exits today, which I would call Social Pollution, which not only includes Crime, but Homelessness, Abject Poverty, mass Prostitution, Disintegration of the Nuclear Family and more. But to hide the true Capitalist origins of Crime, reports of Crimes at all levels have always focused on "evil" individual criminals, rather than on the SICK Society that creates them. >>It was their reaction to the behavioral horrors of the first Industrial Cities that compelled Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels to publish "The Communist Manifesto" in 1848.

I laughed too. It felt like watching someone ramble on screen and decided to flip to another channel. 😂Viscous scary buggers especially if encountered by night.😨

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The photos are great with the videos.

He's a professional historian with a good education! That's how😊

Exactly!

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Hello fellow kiwi!🥰

Hah, I chuckled over Otago too. Dunedin dweller here.

It's always tough to guess local pronunciations. I see the same thing with California Native American names of places all the time. I don't think anyone besides a local notices though.

Exactly, I've said this for Many years.

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Thankyou- I covered the Minnie Dean case in January 2021

I suspect it's not well known outside of the top of the south.

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What is your opinion on whether or not Sullivan returned to New Zealand under a different name? I kind of think that he probably did. I mean he was told he could not even return to Australia, but he did.

Thanks I will check that out :)

@@anthonystike6034 interesting. I didn't know that part of the story if he was already vack in Australia then New Zealand was the closes boat ride. I'm not sure. I've seen copys of the plaster of Paris molds made from the death masks in nelson provincial museum the orgioanl death masks and and plaster of Paris mounds are not on display but they still have them under lock and key. I live in nelson

@@Julia-uh4li actually yes. I'm dyslexic I do that all the time. No Edward fox was totally fine. The Maoris took him back 2 greymouth, I'm not sure if he paid them some gold or if they were just allies. Probably both. New zealands a bit like sometimes, 1 minute it's no good then some friendly maori rocks up and saves the day

@@new_zealand_murder_history there's much N. Zealand history to bring to light

Thanks, I re- recorded Ortago a couple of times, just couldn’t get it right :(

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@@BriefCaseOfficial You're always very welcome B.C. :) Now I have time to relax this afternoon, and re-listen this story, plus more videos of yours. After I listened to Mortis at 5am, had to get ready to go there! You know what I mean. Thank you, wish great week

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St Lucia, I have always wanted to go there :)

@@BriefCaseOfficial very beautiful island you can visit anytime

We came to Australia in 1971. Ten pound poms we were called. I agree those transported from the UK were granted free land if the kept their noses cleaned. Many went on to become wealthy in this rugged land. Others struggled hard to survive. The mortality rate of new borns was Astronomical. I'm 53, served 30 yes in the Aus Army. I am still proud of my British heritage. Keep safe mate.

I found the term he used "transferable offense" interesting and realized I might be ignorant to my fellow Commonwealth penal systems, Canadian history lessons on the matter weren't in depth that I remember. When I was younger I believe I heard "murderers and rapists" and those don't seem like transferable offences the way I'm hearing here. I'll look into it after and appreciate any replies, I'm seeing it from a different angle already. I was assuming before that you deport the worst of the worst but I could see not wanting to release hard criminals into a new area with escape and freedom a possibility

It's basically the same thing for those who were transported to America in the beginning.

To be fair if you look at Victorian prisons the odds of dying where even either way

@@ballsdeep2520Murder and rape were hanging offenses. Offenses that got you sent to the colonies were relatively minor...

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I've lived and travelled there too. I never heard of this case. Fascinating seeing the old photos ,how sparse and isolated it was back then.

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