@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pbthat’s ridiculous.

@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pb 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, Tom Gores is that you?

Sasser is a hooper. Cade is a basketball player

@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pblmao this is either sasser’s burner account or his relative or friend

cade just dropped 40 twice in a week you sound like a 9 year old and nothing about sasser says point guard@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pb

And that's what he is

@@jerryalexander8803 He's top-5 in the league in turnovers, and that's too much for 7 assists. And he's a turnstile on defense.

@@penkima4923 maybe you shouldn't comment if you don't actually watch the games, First of all if you watched the pistons then you would know why there was so many turnovers at the beginning of the year, teams were doubling and triple teaming because there was no other threat on the court but ever since Bojan has come back and Ivey was inserted into the starting linwup Cade is averaging only like 2 turnovers a game.. And secondly to call Cade a turnstile on defense is wild, let's me know that you Dont watch basketball and that you don't know what you are talking to.. Stop going off the rankings on your 2k video game..

@@jerryalexander8803 I started watching games, when their losing streak was 20. According to stats, Cade turned the ball over 5 times early in the season, now over 3 times. He's the PG, so he should want the double teams to come. He led the league in turnovers, and a quadruple team isn't an excuse for that. Turnstile on defense is wild? He can't stop any of his match-ups 1v1. Smaller guys post-up on him. He's suppose to be the big guard. And he usually doesn't help on defense at all. He usually just stands still and is passive. When he makes a decision, it's usually the bad one. Not sure what games do you pretend to be watching.

@@penkima4923 Cade is averaging less than 3 turnovers a game since Bojan has been back, and NO ONE LIKES TO BE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMED.. And Cade is an above average defender so I don’t know what games you’ve been watching because clearly you haven’t been watching Pistons games..

cade is already better than aaron gordon ever was for the magic so its not a a fair comparison

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as a nuggets fan i disagree cade is a better player and i love AG but no cade is better

@@boydriceisawesome2520well AG is a a better winner. He makes much more winning plays

OKC and Houston are doing okay. With Detroit it's the quality of the young players that's the problem.

@@SonnyK248 It's also just Monty Williams not giving the young players time to play like they're on a rebuild it doesn't matter if the young players are playing bad they are 1st years lmao. Ausar Thompson has shown insane potential defensively and he can easily develop an offensive game but he misses 3 shots and Monty is like "aight fuck you come bench you need to get better" like how is he suppose to do that shit if he can't even step onto the floor to experience NBA first hand.

Wolves came up and developed young, spurs are young af, okc is young, grizzlies came up young, magic is fairly young, rockets, etc. it’s possible but you have to be under a good structure with a natural born leader on the team. A coach that actually wants to coach basketball would be great too. Monty said no but they waved so much money at him he eventually had to accept.

@@sandwichsquad74still got better vets then us

Bro or not, he's been consistently among the most careless ball-handlers in the league, and plays next to no defense. Cade should hope for more double teams, so he could get easy assists. Good players have inflated numbers in bad teams, and this Pistons team is the worst in history. Cade is not a good player. At least not yet.

Some people simply forget defense is another huge part of the game lol @@penkima4923

That would be so good

Why would Detroit trade their only good player for nobody because the spurs have nothing to offer?

@@SnakeMaster420 so Detroit could avoid paying a player who doesn’t help them win. The Spurs could offer 4 1sts

1st to hopefully draft Cade again?? Get other players that don't help win?? Get players that help win around him. Coach better. We gotta go nuts in the off-season and start building around Cade instead of getting the best talent and sitting on it. But trading players for less value and no fit isn't ideal. If you trade Ivey you need decent player that fits and a first. We gotta bundle shit and use that shit to get other shit. This team needs a 2k scale rebuild and to keep Cade. Glad you aren't a GM at all. You're as bad as Weaver.

WTF the pistons are noit trading cade lol they can keep cade duren and ig ivey rest need to go but they need to keept duren and cade

For sure. I looked back at some draft comps and were surprised some looked at him as a Luka style guy

That was just lazy scout just because he is very skilled and is a big guard and bcs he was a high prospect they will not make comps with mid players. In the end that was really bad for his development bcs detroit play Cade as if he had Luka qualits and that why he is the second guy in the league in terms of being double behind only to: Luka.

The Ivey situation is another mess in and of itself. I really believe that if they had started him and trusted him more to have the ball in his hands, he could’ve been an 18-19 ppg scorer next to Cade, which this team desperately needed, especially with Bojan out. But no, instead, they decided to prioritize Killian Hayes, a proven bust, and had Ivey playing 20 minutes a game coming off the bench. After so many games only playing 20 minutes, now his confidence is broken, his jump shot has gotten a lot worse since the start of the season, and he’s looking like a shell of himself. Great player development by Detroit.

It's basketball. Not rocket science.

Facts cade bettee den dlo by a mile

We gotta stop blaming the team for Cade's turnovers and complete lack of defense. He's a starter because he was the number one pick and the team sucks. DLo has been playing somewhat passable defense this season, while Cade should just wait standing in the front court. DLo is the better player currently. Cade's possible talent doesn't change that.

@@penkima4923 you’re so laced lol Cade is already better than d lo & u don’t know ball if u think otherwise

He’s telling us that’s his floor and he’s ceiling. So yeah he’s saying he can be anything in between

As bad a defenser DLo is, Cade has been distinctively worse this season. And DLo keeps his turnovers on a decent level. Cade turns the ball over far too much, and that's usually to do with low IQ. SGA is among the absolute top regular season players in the league. Cade is outside of top-200 players in the league. Good players put up inflated numbers in bad teams. The Pistons is the worst team in the league history. The video claims Cade cannot be evaluated, because the team is bad. That's utter garbage. There's like less than one percent change, Cade will ever momentarily reach the level SGA is. The comparison to SGA is so far off, this video should be taken down. SGA has been incredible in the regular season. Jamal Murray has done that consistently in the playoffs. Murray should be ranked much higher than SGA at the moment. I have Murray as a shooting guard, and he's a top-10 SG all time. It's safe to say, Cade will never come near the area code, or even the state, to what Murray is doing.

My thoughts exactly. Him learning to score should help in the future. Unless this front office thinks otherwise…..

@@Here4aLyfeTime He's better as a shooting guard than as a point guard. He's top-5 in turnovers, and he plays no defense. There's a bunch of SGs, who shoot their 40 % from three, but don't defend. If Cade can go from 35 % to 40 % from three, he could get away with playing zero defense.

Needs to be traded. Maybe Kings is not bad.

Not his fault have you seen the ganes without Cade they get blown out 20-30 pts every game he plays both sides very good offense is crazy considering they mostly pressure him every single play and he tries to get team involved but they bums Duran decent and that’s the only other person I see even really helping relieving pressure and Duran still 20-21 If I’m Cade no changes happen I’m demanding a trade he’s in a early ebook situation but not as crazy if a scorer

The Pistons is one of the few teams Cade is allowed to play most minutes for. If the Sixers drafted him, he would probably be in the G-league by now.

He doesn't have any skills yet.

That would be awesome actually. A backcourt of Cade paired with Suggs/Fultz interchangeably would be pretty neat.

@@narrow3601 Fultz was a number one draft pick bust much like Cade. It might be a good situation having them on the same team.

@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pbyou can’t assets that

@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pb You can't forget he's basically a sophomore in the league, he missed like 95% of last season due to injury. He can definitely become a superstar and leader especially when he's starting to average 25ppg, 7ast and 5reb in his last 12 games at .511% field goal mind you. He's doing it at an efficient rate while also lessening his turnovers by over 1. Cade also has the potential to average into the high 20s like 28ppg easily, he's actually averaging 34ppg, 7ast and 6reb in his last 4 outings at .600% field goal which just shows this mf can really ball, it's just his team weighing him down tbh.

He's also addressing the team and keeping them together and holding them accountable. He can't be an on court coach though, that's rare ass Bill Russell shit.

Remember tmac and Kobe in their primes missed the playoffs on teams this bad, what are your thoughts on that my guy lol?

He's a turnover machine, and plays no defense.

Who does this man have to pass to that’s gonna make the shot? They are the worst 3 point shooting team in the league. He gotta shoot first

@jairwest5 He passes pretty good. I don't find him as creative as Isaiah Thomas. What was Isaiah passing to when he first started? Not much. Kelly Tripuka I think.

​@martinellis9342 and that's exactly the point.

7 assists with only one other player close to 20 is actually ridiculous and outside of Bojan the niggas on this roster need Jesus to score 20 points a game. Hard to playmake with no finishers. Cade actually playmakers better than he scores. He scores because he is on this team and that's the problem. It isn't natural to him. It's a response to frustration and a desire to win. He is changing his game to win. He actually plays best in Steph sets, not Luka. He can get the ball, pass to the screener, and make a play or score in the space to combat the lack of spacing, which gives him space, allows him to space the floor. Recently he does score better off ball, and that allows him to playmake after. It also allows us to fill the wing and give our other guards minutes and an easier job. Cade is a number one, but this roster and system hold him back tremendously. Ivey at PG with Cade and Ausar on the wing brings playmaking, defense, and Ivey has been hitting open shots. Bojan creates space and bail outs and Duren rolls, picks, dives, and defends. That is a decent lineup if utilized properly and running proper actions. Cade is best with the ball on the wing. Get him to his spots and set screens so he has space. Ivey is quite capable of bringing the ball up court and pressuring the rim to offset the defense for Cade. Let Bojan or Ausar pick for Ivey, kick out to Cade with immediate Duren pick or screen and see who can guard that. The defense needs a real scheme before we know if these players can defend or not. They don't understand or have the capability to run this defensive scheme. They are often miscommunicating and out of position and losing the basics. Coach the team basically. Cade is doing well because he is that good. Anyone else is trash AF on this team. No one player can make us win. We need players that gel because this roster sucks and doesn't fit. This lineup at least gets some wins allows us to evaluate and raises trade value. It's the only way to improve tangibly that I can think of.

Did Kobe make Smush Parker better?? Cade is fine. He can play point when our roster fits and he will be way more impactful, but at this point on this team he has to be a wing.

They make the same plays. Cade does play that way, but on this shitty ass team, he is a sf because our wing play doesn't exist. Niggas miss the looks he gives them so he stopped giving them those looks. Ivey is a one. Thompson is a two. Cade is a three. Bojan is a four. Duren is a five. Let Cade get to his spots, where he shoots well off ball and playmake from those spots like LeBron. Get Ivey downhill with Ausar cutting. Off ball actions with bojan and Cade to create space and advantages and shooting. Cade Duren pnr from good spots. A real defensive scheme with defense coaching. We need a bench and a coach.

Of course they have a choice. Cade is a draft bust, and sending him to the G-league would be a good choice. But Cade is also slowly improving. So far they've wanted to see, if Cade's going to be an above average player in the league.

Ivey is a pg and Cade isn't on this particular team.

@@datjewellboy Ivey is not a point guard by any stretch of the imagination, that's just false.

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Bro what lol

@@narrow3601 how old are you

@@SusPastorFoundBrutallyMurdered what does that have to do with anything?

@@narrow3601 bcuz you asking what as if you don’t understand what I’m referencing

My guy, are you serious? Do you not understand that what you commented is literally so over the top and outlandish that it can straight up make a person be mentally retarded for a quick few seconds? Yes I know that Gilbert Arenas brought a gun to his locker room after feud on the plane with his teammate about a couple thousand bucks, I know he got suspended. I also know Latrell Sprewell was so pissed at his coach during multiple practices preceding the one where he just straight up choked his coach for a good minute then left immediately after. I can also tell you the exact teams, and years on which it happened. But that would accomplish nothing and you'll probably think I have no basketball mind whatsoever and accuse me of simply searching said events to make myself seem educated in your eyes, or maybe that part might be a bit of a stretch. Anyway, just take it however way you want, I'm out.

He's pretty accurately a top-250 player in the NBA. Not top-25, as all-NBA players are.

They should look at what they can get with him. It would foolish to not even consider. You may be able to get better pieces. Think it about it like this if we laid out all the guys in the league most people would prolly have Cade as a third option

great take

I'd trade Stew and Killian just so Monty can't play them 30 minutes Are late first round picks in 5 years really helping them? Burks and Bogey are competent NBA players. All trading them does is make it even harder to develop the young players they already drafted. I'd damn sure give back the 28th pick in the 2025 draft to have Jerami Grant back.

What you mean? They are 2-28 the pistons got issues rn

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@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pbhe had 41 dimwit

We would probably regret that but it's not awful and would certainly help in the short term. The spacing is bad on paper but so long as Ausar is by himself, helping off him is basically a guaranteed two points because of his cutting. And players are hesitant to stray too far from Ivey because he can blow past you when you are in good position, let alone closing out. But you do *NEED* need a big shooting wing to tie it all together. Lauri, Chet, KD on the high end. Cam Johnson, Jeremi Grant, Tobias Harris. Someone like that. (Bogey works for now although Monty won't play that lineup because he's too in love with Isaiah Stewart and Killian Hayes.) It's like the Lakers and Magic. It might not be the optimal way to build an offense in 2023, but offensive rebounds, free throws and and paint scoring can cover up for a lack of shooting. Especially when you have vertical spacing. Ausar in a Nets Bruce Brown style role will also open up a ton for them. It'd be like when the Clippers had Blake and DJ and Blake in the short roll was either a layup/dunk or a lob to DJ. But Monty is incompetent so they've done it like 3 times all year. (And got a layup or foul every time I think.)

Worst PER of any 20+ point scorer in nba history. Near bottom in efficiency combined with near top of league usage is asking for a losing streak.

@@illDefine1 Darius Garland has a slightly worse PER. Also slightly lower usage, playing with Donovan Mitchell. SGA, by the way, is having the 17th best season in history in PER. Comparing SGA and Cade, isn't very logical.

@@penkima4923 sga? Huh? Cade is playing much better. His PER was at 12 two weeks ago. His highly inneficient play combined with crazy high usage was the central cog to the losing streak. It wouldn't have been that bad with duren in the line up, but still really bad.

@@illDefine1 All true, and very perceptive on your part. They compare SGA and Cade in the video, even though SGA is having one of the best seasons in history, and Cade having one of the worst in certain ways. That's why I brought it up.

Sga wasn’t the main guy until he teal breakout year so its not far off why are you pissed

If he's Devin Booker with better court vision that would be perfect.

In my view he's not a winning player. The more he plays, the more people will realize that. His trade value will only decrease in my opinion. It's a similar situation to Westbrook in that sense. A low efficiency player who racks up superficial boxscore numbers through high usage. Both of them play a heliocentric offense and only pass when it directly leads to an assist. That's why kyrie, luka, morant, harden, Westbrook wont't/couldn't win a title as the central piece. He has to completely reframe how he approaches the game to have a winning impact.

Imma remember this one.

@@davidlawrence6664bro they have lost their last 27. Saying he could be a star is high praise still imo

Not star either more like average player and likely a bench player for a good team.

Lol bench player on a good team. You're saying Cade is like PP on the celtics LMAO@@Jeez001

@justin783 I prefer PP

Honestly I don't blame Monty for getting the bag. The team he was given is just ASS

@@SkitshowFrenia-nr6pb you want to flip your number 1 pick who hasn't even had a fair shot to develop and show what he can do? Sounds like a stupid risk to make when the organization should just be trying to help him.

The pistons would be the ones giving up picks in that trade.

@@SackVegasAnime not really because the Pistons still need to pay Quickley and Ausar in on a rookie deal. The Pistons could get back their 2nd rounder from this year and one of the protected picks the Knicks hold either this year or in the future.