The Chicken Tax - What It Is & How It Changed Pickup Trucks Forever!

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The Chicken Tax & how it shaped our Pickup Truck market!
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:31 - What Is The Chicken Tax?
2:06 - What Qualifies For The Chicken Tax?
3:08 - Loopholes
4:56 - The Chicken Tax Today
5:37 - Outro

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@intravenousradio
@intravenousradio 10 ай бұрын
i miss small trucks - i hate these giant monstrosities they call trucks these days. they're not only not practical for actual trades work, they are significantly more likely to kill a pedestrian or other motorist in the event of a collision. the only purpose such giant vehicles serve is to enhance the ego of the driver and make profit for the automaker.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
That's literally all they are now.. grandiose expressions of their owners' mediocrity, drivers who roll coal to own the weak woke crywank libtards and demonstrate their superiority complex to everyone on the road. (I'm the Main Character) Certain trucks will always sell to a certain demographic, but they still have to market them aggressively beyond their target buyers. A good work truck is something old and reliable that you can repair yourself using plentiful junkyard parts. I knew a family who had three of the same van, it was a cinch to keep them all on the road because all the repairs and parts were the same.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 10 ай бұрын
Regarding your last sentence, that's not a bad thing. Drivers deserve to feel good and companies are in business to make money. Trucks are very practical for actual trade work as they get more capable every year. A 1500 can carry or tow what you used to need a 2500 to tow. Pedestrians should stay out of the road. Yes, I would buy a car that's more likely to keep me safe. The other driver can do the same if they think they're worth it.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
@@bwofficial1776 I just mean, some of the people who mod trucks just to roll coal at bicyclists are kind of just inherently assholes and everyone in their club owns something similar. A work vehicle is one thing, being a douchenozzle on purpose because you need attention is another thing.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
Biker episode of South Park
@stupidvideos1449
@stupidvideos1449 10 ай бұрын
​@bwofficial1776 but you always see pickups that tow or carry nothing
@bobchannell3553
@bobchannell3553 10 ай бұрын
The poultry sales in the 1950's was responsible for us not getting these trucks in the 70's and 80's, but I'll bet it's Ford and GM lobbyists that has kept this tariff in place since that time.
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 Ай бұрын
And why they have the size loophole for the cafe laws. My 2010 Tacoma is one of the last small pickups made
@jonny-nava-367
@jonny-nava-367 10 ай бұрын
Should the chicken tax be removed?
@stevecooper7883
@stevecooper7883 10 ай бұрын
Car enthusiasts and libertarians think so, while "made in America" enthusiasts and certain environmentalist movements might appreciate the tax holding back even more trucks being imported into America
@brandonblanco8379
@brandonblanco8379 10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, it’s anti consumerism
@to_ots9701
@to_ots9701 10 ай бұрын
Yes, dumbest law that still exists for some reason
@sven679
@sven679 10 ай бұрын
Better off balancing CAFE to punish bigger vehicles instead of smaller
@1996FordCrownVictoria
@1996FordCrownVictoria 10 ай бұрын
Yeah its always been pointless
@deletedaccount612
@deletedaccount612 10 ай бұрын
You should do a video essay on CAFE fuel standards and how that is making modern American trucks giant.
@josem588
@josem588 5 ай бұрын
Is because they want that the pollution of trucks has to be proportional to its size because for them is no Sense in a ford ranger polluting the same as a f350 dual tires or a sedan impala polluting the same as a suburban
@vexedpixels
@vexedpixels 2 ай бұрын
@@josem588but in a practical sense it doesn’t change the actual output of pollution, and only decreases road safety
@josem588
@josem588 2 ай бұрын
@@vexedpixels for that reason I say that usa is a third world country because they are the only country where car manufacturers can make SUVs and pickups that are dangerous and no one will do anything about it and also because is the only country that allows the use or harmful chemicals in food that are banned in the EU.
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 Ай бұрын
Yeah the cafe laws combined with chicken tax has made it hard to just have a simple reliable pickup to do work.
@tid418
@tid418 Ай бұрын
@@josem588 That is not the definition of a third world country.
@Metalodeath
@Metalodeath 10 ай бұрын
And now we have 100k trucks because of it!
@Incomudro1963
@Incomudro1963 6 ай бұрын
We have 100k pickups, because some Americans are so caught up in the arms race of "Mine's bigger and fancier than yours."
@Metalodeath
@Metalodeath 6 ай бұрын
@@Incomudro1963 yep just plain dumb
@denniskong338
@denniskong338 10 ай бұрын
it's always neat to see these little european pickups down in mexico.
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 10 ай бұрын
how common are they? Are American trucks taking over?
@inthendwealldie
@inthendwealldie 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@HSstudio.YtchnnlUsually afaik most of the American trucks that are coming into Mexico to basically stay there forever, are usually trucks and suvs that got all their catalytic converters stolen in a strict US emissions state. Often reported stolen vehicles will have their new life in Mexico. And nearby the border people tend to steal some usually heavy duty trucks and sending them down south for cartel duty, so if there’s a surge of American 🛻 in Mexico, those 3 points above make up that reason 😅 cartels love them high trim model Fords I also heard if someone lives in a heavily nacro controlled state and in a certain region in Mexico, a newer nice truck will likely get stolen by force with fully automatic rifles pointed at them by the local cartel gunmen ruling in that area they patrol
@josem588
@josem588 4 ай бұрын
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl in Mexico dodge still mades small pickup trucks
@FTRVDenny
@FTRVDenny 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I've always wondered about the jump seats and why they were so small. We had a Subaru Brat growing up and loved the rear facing seats but never understood why they were in there. I was going to mention the Transit 2010 - 2013 how they were imported as a passenger van and changed to a contractor van here but you covered it.
@tid418
@tid418 Ай бұрын
I had a Ranger from the early 90s that also had those tiny jump seats, and it was American made (in MN) and wasn't subject to the tax. The setup worked well for people who only rarely had to carry more than one passenger somewhere, and then only for a short time. The rest of the time, it was a place to put groceries and what not you may be carrying without having to have it out in the bed where it could be rained on/roasted in the heat/blown away.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
The 2000's were hard on those poor Nissan D21s because teenagers would turn their dads' old pickups into shitty lowriders. They were everywhere in Canada, and because we had a 15-year import law instead of 25 (for Japanese Domestic), you still see many around. Lifted Hiluxes, Mazda B2200-B3000's, and a few old Datsuns too.
@josem588
@josem588 6 ай бұрын
Also is normal to see (in usa) old pickup trucks (example Silverado 2003-2006) converted into low ride trucks
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 3 ай бұрын
Just completed a nine hour road trip in Utah and Idaho in my D21. It’s 30 years old, has nearly 200k miles on it. Ran the 80mph speed limit or a little over for 9 hours like it was new.
@davinp
@davinp 10 ай бұрын
You might have noticed we no longer have small trucks in America
@EnthusiastCarHangar
@EnthusiastCarHangar 10 ай бұрын
How about the Maverik?
@1996FordCrownVictoria
@1996FordCrownVictoria 10 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiastCarHangar that's not available in the United states
@tynewlin
@tynewlin 10 ай бұрын
​@@1996FordCrownVictoria it sure is. Worked on one yesterday.
@1996FordCrownVictoria
@1996FordCrownVictoria 10 ай бұрын
@@tynewlin Oh they finally brought them over here?
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 10 ай бұрын
but there's the Maverick & the Hyundai Santa Cruz
@newwavetheo
@newwavetheo 10 ай бұрын
As of about late 2020, Tacomas are no longer assembled in San Antonio, TX. Since then, they are made in two plants: Toyota Motor Manufacturing de Baja California (near Tijuana) and Toyota Motor Manufacturing de Guanajuato (near Apaseo el Grande, Guanajuato). This change was done to accommodate the new generation Sequoia being built alongside the 22+ Tundra since they share the drivetrain and overall design.
@newwavetheo
@newwavetheo 10 ай бұрын
Might as well mention this while I am at it: NAFTA exempts the 25% duty imposed on light duty pickup trucks that are made in Canada or Mexico. As of today, your choices for buying an American-made Foreign-branded pickup include: Nissan Frontier, Nissan Titan, Hyundai Santa Cruz, Toyota Tundra & Honda Ridgeline. Of those, Nissan has been doing it the longest since mid-1983 and was the 2nd Japanese maker to construct a plant here in the US in Smyrna, TN originally for those Datsun 720, Nissan D21 Hardbody and first generation D22 Frontier trucks. Frontier production has since moved to Canton, MS since 2012.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 10 ай бұрын
Regarding the loopholes, it's your duty as an American to exploit loopholes. On the other hand, US-market trucks tend to be bigger and safer and more capable. Midsize trucks like the Hilux and Amarok would be nice but kei trucks aren't very safe and would likely run afoul of many other regulations. While we're at it, repealing the 25-year import ban would be nice. Even rolling it back to 15 years like Canada would be an improvement.
@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth 10 ай бұрын
Big pickup trucks are not safer. Crashing against a smaller vehicle you'll be fine, but crash with another equally sized truck or bigger? You're toast. Or if you hit a smaller vehicle, cyclist or pedestrian, they're toast.
@objective7042
@objective7042 10 ай бұрын
Big is not safe. the bigger and higher you are, the blinder you are.
@Quesadila21
@Quesadila21 10 ай бұрын
The biggest and best thing we can do to increase road safety, is to ‘reteach’ driving. There’s a lot of campaigns and advertisements that go to pushing something - and catches on - so why not do that for better driving habits? Staying out of the left-lane (passing-lane) unless you’re passing, using your turn signals before you make actual lane switches, teach zipper-merging for better traffic flow, etc. Things like that will work-out - lot of the tailgating and swerving through traffic, so that goes without saying. Better crash-safety is good for the passenger, but preventing crashes entirely (or at least greatly reducing points of encounter) is a lot better.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 10 ай бұрын
@@LouisSubearthit’s going to be and endless cycle of insecurity, marketing, and cars getting bigger for “safety” sadly. For pedestrians, this is horrible.
@TheLoneLlama
@TheLoneLlama 3 ай бұрын
This is misinformation and extremely misleading.
@VinnyDeez-
@VinnyDeez- 4 ай бұрын
AND this is why i cant have cool small trucks now what a time to be alive
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
It's funny that this kind of pettiness still exists today.. I remember when Republicans retaliated to France's unwillingness to join the Iraq invasion in 2003 by trying to force the rebranding of anything 'French', such as Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.
@WilliamHollinger2019
@WilliamHollinger2019 10 ай бұрын
That I didn't know
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 10 ай бұрын
When did Republicans do this? Absolutely zero evidence of this happening on the internet and zero clips to be found lmao. I'm not American so maybe I'm wrong but that's pretty hard to believe. Maybe 1% or less did it and you took it personally
@stevaloo5544
@stevaloo5544 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if they returned the statue 🗽
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
@@stevaloo5544 It used to be a golden brown before it rusted XD
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 Ай бұрын
That was so moronic. I always thought rebranding French fries was weird.
@clarksonoceallachain8536
@clarksonoceallachain8536 10 ай бұрын
In europe Kinda stopped in the 2010s Volkswagen golf ute Opel corsa ute Seat i think.... Now There is the fiat doblo ute And the usual kei truck Mostly daihatsu Sometimes a jimny Daihatsu taft single cab ute would look cool
@jaysun3149
@jaysun3149 10 ай бұрын
Now I understand why the us market doesn't have any import pickup trucks, but why our Canadian market also doesn't have import pickup trucks?
@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth 10 ай бұрын
Because US and Canadian regulations are mostly similar, plus they got the USMCA trade deal, meaning they get tax exemptions on US and Mexican made trucks.
@jaysun3149
@jaysun3149 10 ай бұрын
but why does the Mexico market have Toyota Hilux?@@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth 10 ай бұрын
@jaysun3149 Mexico follows both ECE and FMVSS regulations. However, they passed legislation to lean more towards FMVSS so there's a chance that the Hilux days are numbered in Mexico and they fill the spot it leaves with low trim Tacomas, which are built locally.
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 10 ай бұрын
​@@LouisSubearthwhat is ECE??
@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth 10 ай бұрын
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl They're the European standards.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
0:32 KILROY WAS HERE
@Ben-outdoors
@Ben-outdoors 10 ай бұрын
OG meme
@ModelA
@ModelA 10 ай бұрын
Nice work Zack.
@Ben-outdoors
@Ben-outdoors 10 ай бұрын
They need to remove this and the 25 year import ban
@perfectlybalanced8995
@perfectlybalanced8995 5 ай бұрын
Those 2 things are the reasons why I dislike being an automotive enthusiast
@jaspal666
@jaspal666 10 ай бұрын
Lane Motor Museum had the first US built Nissan pickup off the line on display several years ago. Fun to see.
@James-mw6se
@James-mw6se 10 ай бұрын
I did enjoy your video 👍
@Mr.Howell78k
@Mr.Howell78k 10 ай бұрын
Extremely interesting!
@c_c
@c_c 10 ай бұрын
exceptional content
@justincasesomethinggoeswrong
@justincasesomethinggoeswrong 8 күн бұрын
We have a local dealer who sells the "K" trucks. He sells them brand new for $7500. How ever, they can not be driven on the roads, because they have not been DOT tested, for safety. I say, if a person wants to buy one, even though it may be unsafe, let them buy it and drive it.
@mirullah1003
@mirullah1003 7 күн бұрын
I think you need a follow up to this covering the Kei trucks. I read certain states refuse to register them after the owner painstakingly has imported one
@Fitzy215
@Fitzy215 4 ай бұрын
Have a Red 97 sl500 with them. they still work too
@kevinwong6588
@kevinwong6588 Ай бұрын
Honda seemed to be the only Japanese manufacturer in the late 70s without its own truck line, until the Ridgeline's debut in February 2005. Shortly after the chicken tax was imposed in December 1963, Congress passed the Automotive Trade Act of 1965 which was ratified by the Canadian government, establishing a tariff-free trade zone in the United States and Canada for vehicles and automotive equipment. Ford began truck production at its new Oakville assembly plant in response to the trade agreement, allowing for truck exports to the states.
@bazilwreckerloughead
@bazilwreckerloughead 10 ай бұрын
Some of that I never knew; just the part form 0:00 to time stamp 6:23.
@blucanyon322
@blucanyon322 10 ай бұрын
Yup, I’ve got a D22 Frontier with useless little jump seats, although it was made in the US so I’m assuming it was just a style choice
@ajicycles
@ajicycles 10 ай бұрын
5:22 Shouldn’t these pickup trucks be exempt from the chicken tax because they have two rows of seating?
@Daniel28021991
@Daniel28021991 10 ай бұрын
Intresting
@idontpostonthischannelanymore
@idontpostonthischannelanymore 10 ай бұрын
wow a very new video
@dave11686
@dave11686 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@flamingsteve5883
@flamingsteve5883 2 ай бұрын
i saw a k truck on my drive home yesterday, it threw me off so hard
@anthonymatute6057
@anthonymatute6057 10 ай бұрын
Well I’ve never heard of a chicken tax before…
@losingmyfavoritegame8752
@losingmyfavoritegame8752 10 ай бұрын
Right? 🤔
@sampik2003
@sampik2003 10 ай бұрын
It's an old term, heard it for years ;)
@Ben-outdoors
@Ben-outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Do you watch many videos like this about vehicles? I’ve heard it decently often. Especially car history videos that always talk about the gas crisis in the 70’s
@bobchannell3553
@bobchannell3553 10 ай бұрын
I say let's get rid of the tax and let them send us some nice little trucks that our domestic automakers refuse to make for us.
@space1888
@space1888 10 ай бұрын
a video essay on the suzuki samurai and how it was kicked from the us market? that would be cool
@LouisSubearth
@LouisSubearth 10 ай бұрын
The Consumer Reports slander killed Suzuki's car division in the States, as their sales never recovered after that.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. I don't remember Ford getting kicked out even though their Ford bronco II was so dangerous people were told to not even drive it
@robertprell1960
@robertprell1960 10 ай бұрын
Chickens are not flightless birds. I have a barn with a 35 foot tall roof. They don't teleport to the top of the barn roof. Every spring I cut the wings to prevent flight.
@EnthusiastCarHangar
@EnthusiastCarHangar 10 ай бұрын
As always I enjoyed watching. But to be honest there have never been real European trucks. Yes there was the VW Caddy and the Amarok for a while but that is about it. The Mercedes truck you showed is not a real Mercedes but a rebadged Nissan. The US is fat better off with trucks.
@MrExLoVE7
@MrExLoVE7 3 күн бұрын
The best pick up truck (and the most reliable vehicle ever) in the history is toyota hilux which Americans are so unfortunate to not know about them (of course some does)
@MrWortWort1
@MrWortWort1 10 ай бұрын
So they removed everything from the tax except one thing that doesn't involve food? They should of remove the tax then at that point 😅
@Schregger
@Schregger 4 ай бұрын
Wow, Thanks US government, this helped so fucking much...
@cxryptonic
@cxryptonic 10 ай бұрын
100th like!
@Ben-outdoors
@Ben-outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Imagine having a hilux or Suzuki Jimny
@WilliamHollinger2019
@WilliamHollinger2019 10 ай бұрын
Than GM had to rename the gmc blazer.
@Ben-outdoors
@Ben-outdoors 10 ай бұрын
@@WilliamHollinger2019 The GMC Jimmy is a different vehicle. The Blazer is made by Chevrolet.
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 10 ай бұрын
maybe the Tacoma should have a diesel option instead
@nickkrenn891
@nickkrenn891 9 ай бұрын
We need some 20, 30 min essays.
@peterpowers4851
@peterpowers4851 2 ай бұрын
Can't compete with them? Why not tax them out of existence?
@eskokorhonen8348
@eskokorhonen8348 10 ай бұрын
Best cars Datsun /Nissan D21 4x4
@BayAreaMike99
@BayAreaMike99 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if lobbying was illegal?
@daveschellenberg5894
@daveschellenberg5894 6 ай бұрын
then why did the us makers stop making affordable small trucks?
@Incomudro1963
@Incomudro1963 6 ай бұрын
I think it's simply that they convinced Americans that "bigger is better." Not a difficult thing to do in the pickup world, if you take into account the immaturity of a large portion of the guys who drive pickups.
@NickLeeds
@NickLeeds 6 ай бұрын
Chickens are not flightless. They can fly
@Incomudro1963
@Incomudro1963 6 ай бұрын
They're not that small as birds go either.
@wassiswallylokhankin191
@wassiswallylokhankin191 Ай бұрын
Hope this tax insanity does not affect the much needed Telo e-truck.
@PookieMaliboo
@PookieMaliboo 4 ай бұрын
If the US just made better quality trucks then the chicken tax wouldn't be needed.
@brandonblanco8379
@brandonblanco8379 10 ай бұрын
It doesn’t make any sense that the Chicken Tax exists. It’s anti consumerism and limits consumer choice.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
Those who wish it to remain in place are against the idea of imported light pickups and kei trucks because of their perception that competition (poorer consumers / fleets who would buy alternatives) would hurt their domestic truck sales.
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
The major US manufacturers have very big deals with vehicular-oriented companies and services who are contractually obligated to purchase their fleets from those manufacturers.
@brandonblanco8379
@brandonblanco8379 10 ай бұрын
@@kiraleaf isn’t competition a good thing? Isn’t that the essence of free market capitalism?
@kiraleaf
@kiraleaf 10 ай бұрын
@@brandonblanco8379 Yes. The tax hasn't been repealed because it favors domestic monopoly. Diversity and competition would help the lower and middle class get ahead, but not in the way that the monopolizing manufacturers want because they would stand to lose profit on new vehicle sales.
@brandonblanco8379
@brandonblanco8379 10 ай бұрын
@@kiraleaf well so be it to the manufactures, if they disappear. They have to learn to make reliable vehicles and meet the clients needs.
@SvenQ45
@SvenQ45 9 ай бұрын
It´s just crazy yeah. All these "economic" wars and other wars. 🤦‍♂ Like the 25 years rule. Only things that always work here in Germany and in the US as well are: Lobbyism and capitalism.
@poet99999
@poet99999 8 ай бұрын
shut up there is a quad cab datsun?1!?!?!?!?!?!
@ShootingCars
@ShootingCars 8 ай бұрын
In the Japanese domestic market! The one in the video was imported from Japan. I have a full video on my channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJejY7WCmMDIc30.html
@benviehman8640
@benviehman8640 10 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who thought that the Chicken Tax would be a metaphor and have nothing to do with chickens? 😅
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 3 ай бұрын
The chicken tax is not the reason trucks are big but EPA rules. Smaller trucks which is less fuel efficient than comparatively sized sedans get hit with a big penalty, but large trucks get an exemption. This video is misinformation.
@MADSLAYER47
@MADSLAYER47 4 ай бұрын
Abolish it!
@ChrisRobato
@ChrisRobato 10 ай бұрын
The European pickups are not important other than the Amarock there aren't many. You do miss the importation of European vans and trucks. Most importantly you miss the importation of global pickups, usually powered by a turbodiesel that would have been prohibited by the US emissions laws, which amounts to another trade barrier. These pickups include the Ford Rangers with turbodiesels; the Toyota Hilux, 79 series Land Cruiser, Lite Ace, Hi Ace; Nissan Navara, Atlas; Isuzu D-Max, the Mazda BT-50, the Mitsubishi Strada or Triton. Other than the Land Cruiser, The base model pickups are priced much lower than the US pickups, even when you compare the global Ford Ranger to the US. Another consequence is the non importation of pickup derived SUVs such as the Toyota Fortuner, the Isuzu Mu-X, the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and the Nissan Terra. A Hilux with a 2.8 Turbodiesel will cost much less than a Tacoma but will out torque it and still deliver better fuel economy.
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl
@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 10 ай бұрын
- the US also have turbodiesel-powered trucks that are BIGGER & more POWERFUL such as Ford's Powerstroke & GM's Duramax. In fact, most of the world's pickups have engines that are 3L or below in size unlike in the US or Canada that has 6+ liters of diesel engine displacement so it's not because of "US emission laws" that prohibits those Hiluxes or Navaras but rather it's the price of diesel as well as EPA corruption. - the US also has it's own SUVs that are BIGGER than kost of the world's SUVs, just look at the Cadillac Escalade or the Jeep Grand Wagoneer & they're also more advanced and packed with more tech
@snowwhite7677
@snowwhite7677 2 ай бұрын
You can keep the Mercedes & VW pickups. Those brands are Crap!
@johnesmer5635
@johnesmer5635 4 ай бұрын
Same ,,bs,, in Australia ..tax tax tax ..40+% of Australia are on fat fat welfare payments.. mostly woman
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