The problem is that it's only a trend to people like herself. She is on the outside looking in. And the style is to this day part of the Chicana Chola culture to many. And although some would probably dislike being misrepresented or being mimicked by people who don't like Cholas or look down on them. Chicano chol@ culture has embraced as our own many people of different backgrounds who grow up with us or just show love and respect for us.

And....did you like Oregon better or wanted to stay with people who looked like you?

The biggest thing is who chose Oregon? Mom or dad?

My mom is Mexican and my dad is “white”. My mom moved for my dad. I feel conflicted because I didn’t feel like I fit in, in either place. In Oregon I get asked “what are you?” In Texas around my Mexican family I get asked “why do you talk like a white girl?” I feel like a lot of mixed kids can relate.

Cuz you are ghetto

@@christinamock7264 who did you marry?

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As a 32 year old man you should understand that when she says “everyone” she doesn’t literally mean everyone

@@alien_fugitive no way, really? are you sure? (its a joke, bud. relax)

In 2022, that wouldn’t be strange. Almost funny there bud almost

@@alien_fugitive I agree, she doesn’t really mean “respecting” chola culture either. Words can mean anything.

didn’t know being indian is something to be embarrassed about?

@@sonikagbl neither did I.

Cholas are portrayed as illiterate because most of them were/are. I grew up in a latino neighborhood went to high school here. All the cholas that i came across were the girls who ditched class everyday all the time to smoke weed or go hang out with their adult boyfriend, or both.

@@Wasev Thanks for your input! Yeah, hood life be like that. But no one wants to be treated like that 30 years later, you know? Langston Hughes made a very impactful poem all about how conflicting and can feel for an African-American to want to honor outdated culture while continuing to move forward, since, inevitably, outdated culture involves some level of miseducation.

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Same here

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Lmao same

Lol same here !! Actually chola culture started in the 10th century 😂😂😂

Smh. Every minority and marginalized groups in this country is being appropriated by white culture. It's getting to be so ridiculous.

How could you possibly have been part of the Chola culture in the 70’s? It died out in 1300 when it was succeeded by the Pandyan dynasty in the Jaffna Kingdom.

@@erikkovacs3097 😂 Wrong chola. You’re in the wrong region mate. AGo a little more west. East LA to be exact and move up in the timeline a few centuries.

Yes I agree on homies.Sisters and brothers from no one but them selves .Friends who actually took care of each other when going home was not a real option.

@@erikkovacs3097 ghee whizz Kovacs who did you depend on? Who did you depend on hillbillies ?

Hahaha.. Me too... That's a funny co incidence

Yea this is duplicate chola

Same thats why I clicked on this video. Idk what they're talking about here

I thought that somehow PS1's popularity has convinced the west to embrace chola fashion🤣

it's a pity that Chola dynasty could provide much more aesthetics to this world than what the video talks about here, but we live in a west centric world.

Yes! I loved collecting the stickers too. My favorite was flaca

Instead of cholos/cholas you have the cartel… I’ll take cholos lol

@@CAC6363 cartels are not a “style” or “fashion”. Obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

@@bluejay6803 you know absolutely nothing. Cartels are literally about style and fashion, flashy guns and clothes. Did you even process what you wrote?… there are literal songs about these ppl and it doesn’t put them down, that’s not a cultural influence or style?… are you even Latino/Hispanic or your just going off KZfaq and what you see on tv?…

Because "Mexican Americans" aren't a real thing. You are only Mexican by which nation you are born under. These are Spanish speaking Americans not Mexicans. Vice versa.

@@BotfromChina nationally I’m American culturally, I am Mexican…culture doesn’t change because you move…

The Japanese do that with everything. My favourite are the punks and the bikers.

It's call gyaru.

There is

I think the channel it's on is refinery 29.... Not absolutely sure.

As a black man from South Florida growing up in the 90's I never realized where styles that I've come to adopt came from. The Dickies and fedoras so on and so forth. And even the way we dressed, we were made fun of until it hit mainstream and became popular mainly in rap music videos. I don't dress the same being older now but then it's no surprise because I was always an old soul. But I would always create accessories for and existing accessory 😂 always fly though. It's was always a mixture of old school, Italian and Latin now that I think about it. It's crazy to see what people made fun of me for wearing later on becoming a trend and I would be in to something else 🤷🏿‍♂️ btw your oldie playlist is 🔥😎

WE CANT RELATE...YOU WERE IN A WHOLE OTHER STATE...CHOLISMO COMES FROM L.A. AND THERE IS NOOOOO WAY WE FELT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE WERE AND STILL ARE THE MAJORITY.

Selena wasn't a chola.

Did you ever see at the drive in? They are my favourite band, and grew up in el paso

What high school did you go to? Bowie High? Hanks?

@@JavierFernandez01 I know, I was describing the times, also that doesn’t mean the cholas didn’t love her. I’ll never forget when she died all the cholas at school were devastated, who didn’t love Selena. Be well 💐

How is it "offensive"?

You have no idea what a cholo is, please go to Mexico, meet real cholos and change your mind

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What did Mexican people steal German music what about the way to cook certain tacos if you watch a video a people cooking meat an Arab countries doesn't that look familiar too every culture takes from other cultures America took a lot of their political ideas from the Romans and so on and so on

She literally said it stared in the 50s/60s… it was super popular in the 90s…

@@CAC6363 Ok, I listened to it again, she did say it started in the 40’s and 50’’s in Texas and in the 60’s in Southern California.

@@VEGANISTA269 texas was pachuco which is different, cholas started in SoCal. They were 2 different movements…

@@CAC6363 oy que la. I didn’t say it, she said it. I said it started much earlier, more like the 70’s, but probably earlier than that in L.A.

What does living that life entail?

YES

You got me thinking that i need to call my Desi friend Kaushal. we need to pop to local Tandoori. Roti is mood today

@@PHlophe That's why we are fade up with you guys do study some History, Geography we guys know so much about your country history geography but you guys are still way far from us do some study otherwise we will take your remaining jobs also

I accidentally landed here searching for chola empire 😂

You know you don't have to start a soliloquy in Spanish

@@bryantnelson2088 You can learn some Spanish if you ask. I learned English that way. Do you want a translation??

​@@bryantnelson2088 If it's a soliloquy then its quite a beautiful one as they are speaking from their experiences, perhaps you just weren't able to understand it Bryan, which is completely fine but there's no need for the unecessarry input that includes a word people hardly use.

@@bryantnelson2088 imagine crying because someone typed in another language and it hurt you lol

You’d have to start with a Chinese Indian hybrid which would cover about 2.5 billion people. You could then add the number of people who aren’t Chinese or Indian who would be offended on their behalf which would be the Liberal arts student population of the United States and Europe. I bet we could find an answer to this. Give me some time and a calculator.

Did you miss the part where she said it started on the late 50s/60s, yea that’s before the years you mentioned… sorry…

I believe the video editing at the intro may have made her point a bit unclear. Later when the video starts talking about the history (around 20 seconds in) she discusses how Chola culture started with influences going back to the 40s and 50s and "continued into what we know as Chola culture which started in the 60s and 70s"

She's a radical leftist activist. She doesn't care about the truth.

@@CAC6363 I believe you missed that the ancient Egyptians used eyeliner long before the cholas. I really think they should give more credit to the Ancient Egyptians.

@@jackk9473 it’s not about eyeliner, it’s about the style they use it in… your comment is moot.

And this why this video was made. You missed the entire segment where she mentions that this style was created from the minimal resources of beauty that was available to us. Hispanic women have always been a part of the working class so we utilized our work utility clothes and few affordable makeup products available to us to create our own beauty standards. Now it’s being renamed by white people like as if they created a “trend” but its not a trend to many of us, it’s simply what we can afford.

@@bellagarcia1302 And I will repeat the questions of 1) why do 90s Hispanic girls get to claim ownership for consumerism of a product that existed before them. As in... By the very logic of the product existing it means other people were wearing it before them. And 2) why do you want a TREND to be the priority over intellectual property? You wanna know why cowboy "aesthetic" has endured long before the Internet? Because cowboys... Who are real people, own their companies and make their products. Sure, people who just want to culturally appropriate their look will do so. Hollywood costumes and Halloween costumes will be made. But anyone with any real respect for the culture has actual companies with actual heritage to look to for authenticity. I'm a 35-year-old Black American woman. You. Me. Let's look at each other in the eyes. Tell me more about what working class did in the 1990s. Tell me. Let's talk. Really talk. And after we talk about the economic and cultural capacities that we have to own and distribute our culture in a way that is legally protected, you can tell me more about how girls picking which SHADE of the same drugstore lipstick literally everyone else was wearing was a classism choice. Do... Do Hispanic make up companies CARE about recreating 1990s trends? I can give you a list of 10 black owned makeup companies online. Let's see your list of 10 Hispanic and Latinx owned companies and let's see what their blog posts are about.

@@bellagarcia1302 I agree. I was there in the 70s. I know.

@@bellagarcia1302 I agree, all white women are rich and have mansions, and no rich Hispanics have ever involved themselves with fashion started by a white society.

@@jackk9473 point was missed again. What makes this topic so interesting is that involves class levels AND CULTURE! The problem here: Cholas/ cholos have always been looked at as low class, uneducated, and gangsters for their looks and culture + their skin color in society. But when a white women does the same makeup trends/ listens to the same music, it’s looked at as trendy, unique, and “cute lil brownie lips”!!!

Jaga, all i think about is Tandoori right now.

Lmao this style stated in the 40/50s, long before the 70s. You just proved yourself wrong. I swear white ppl are so mad cuz you have nothing original or popular in your culture 😂. Your milk toast mad over here. It’s checkered shirt too my god how dmb you sound, “check” shirt…

No one was dressing like a chola in Britain, stop using drugs and go fix your teeth

Yes

Appreciating a culture and pretending you invented something that was part of said culture are two different things.

@@Mimi-hn6iv everything has been tooken from everybody somewhere a lot of Mexican food in Mexican music is tooken from somebody Northern Mexican you could say was stolen from the Germans that is why it sounds a lot like polka even certain ways the Mexicans cooked food is tooken from the Arabs watch how Arabic communities cook meet and you'll notice that's the way they cook tacos to so why does nobody say that ain't cultural appropriation

Ha, verda! Los cabrones

Could it be because other Romance languages have different gender endings? For example, it would be called “Latin/e” in French or maybe just “latin” in Romanian. The RAE, at least for now, doesn’t recognize gender-neutral endings, so I believe that it would be correct to say latino/a, or perhaps simply “latino” if one wants to use one word, since Spanish prefers the masculine ending when referring to a mixed group.

German immigrants brought the music to Northern Mexico. A lot of those Mexican banda musicians have a German grandparent.

@@fherlinn Makes sense, remember the Zimmerman Telegram Germany sent the Mexican Government about Returning Former Mexican Territories in the US Back to Mexico, those there are a fair number of German White Texans.

Polka is "white music" lol. It's from Germany, Poland, and and what was Czechoslovakia.

@@fherlinn most don't have German ancestry smh stop making up lies online

It's because these 'rules' are only for white people to follow, if we let these people dictate our lives.

Brazilians didn't do makeup like that smh

1. Not how Brazilian women do their makeup. 2. She's not Brazilian. Her mom was born and raised in NY, but her mom's parents are from Brazil.

Yes, always give credit where it's due.

Literally speaking no you don't need to credit every single time, but in my experience main point of giving credit is more about respect than anything else, but there's also an element of safety. If you don't understand why something evolved the way it did it's very easy to insult the people who originally created it. This can undermine an art as a means of expression and destroy communities built around these arts and cultures. Everyone becomes a part of the group, even if they're not supposed to be. It's also important to credit origins as a popular art or style spreads because it will, inevitably, spread beyond the borders of that country. Not everyone will know or understand the art in another country and could do harm without understanding how their actions are harmful. TL;DR if someone takes from a group of people without credit or respecting them, they are damaging the foundation of that group or art which is harmful to the communities and cultures who created the art.

Is not a matter of " giving" credit to a culture. Is a reaffirmation. Is a fact made a trend in our development in cultural expression of attitudes, behaviours that reflect a certain experience. Our young chicanos experienced particular challenges and they reacted in many ways. The cholo style was one particular and specific way to react to their social challenges and became a style in a whole community of same roots people all over the USA and Mexico if not more. It was our style and still is our cholo ways.

@@dvor2096 With social media, pop culture and internet in general I think modern cultures are pretty safe. Nobody is gonna forget cholo came from Mexican-Americans or that hiphop came from African Americans. But I belive the middle ground should be that giving credit should be the norm but we shouldn't go after people for not giving it. Like you said some people of different cultures don't know about another culture maybe they just really like it and that shouldn't be frowned upon. Maybe make more people aware of the culture rather than call people out who don't know about it and engage in it.

@@georgefurman4371 Thanks. Very good reasoning. I'll keep that in mind.

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That's funny ppl cant never give the Mexican props because ppl cant stand the fact that the chicanos created their own style.and ppl like you trying to take it or claim it's so typical..

Low riders were started in Texas by Hispanics in car clubs and rot rods clubs in the 1950’s. curious how African Americans fit in or Irish or Cajun, what do they have to do with this?

@@mirrormirror444 In the USA, Cajun, Irish, Hispanics or Blacks are all lower-social class. Hence they will share the same bad public schools, and the kids, teenager will hang out in the same neibourhood, lurking on the cool new hydraulic cars some guys went in. That's how you have congolese wearing albanian Shapkas and singing Petrushka in France, or italians kid doing Ramadan with their algerian friends in the hood. Only americans find that problematic because they feel threatened by their lack of history. History always worked like that. Romans started to use shirt that the Celts and germans wore, whereas celts started to integrate latin grammar in their langage (even when latin abandonned it). You put 2 population, their culture and history will mix at a moment

😂😂😂 lowriders started in Hispanic communities. The whole 90s gangster era that is typically associated with rappers like snoop, nwa, and Dre is Chicano influenced. It’s a west coast/la thing and a product of their environment. That’s how gangsters dressed back then and still do.

I think you should pay more attention to what she said you are making no sense and please pay close attention that's history that some ppl cant stand the fact that Mexican Americans made that look themselves.

@@eld3moniod3monio40 I didn’t know they invented lipstick and work wear. What other inventions have the Mexican Americans been robbed of?

I didn't even catch it. I was waiting for "where you from?" :)

you made it all the way there?