If baiting is killing ohio. How is it still out producing most midwest states in 170 plus deer. More 200 inch deer are killed in ohio each year then kansas, Missouri, iowa.

Debating corn piles…. The main response is to bring up food plots?!?! Really?? Ok- go plant a food plot if it’s the same thing. Exact same thing with crossbows used during archery season by able bodied folks … DEFLECT!!! “Well a compound is more advanced than a stick bow”. How about u specifically argue the merits or downsides of bait. Don’t deflect!! 👍

Indiana is now a one buck state, and the jump up in numbers and quality of bucks really surprised me! And I have been hunting the same family farm since 1987. Indiana also does not allow baiting, so everyone has food plots on private land. Even if that plot is a small kill plot. As a Hoosier I think our DNR is ahead of many states.

Anyone that wants to cry CWD so they can get baiting banned, doesn’t need to be advocating for hunters in Ohio

Never heard you guys really say this but wouldn’t banning cell cameras promote the shooting of younger and smaller deer. If you didn’t know what was out there, isn’t there less motivation to pass a good younger deer?

You guys mentioned the baiting boom was about 5/8 years ago. But i would say it EXPLODED in 2020 when people were sitting home, and had time hunt again. ALOT of people who were too busy to hunt took advantage. Of course. Even people who were just home and didnt hunt were throwing out corn just to watch the deer out of their window. Another thing that one of the Mullets said was now a days everyone owns hunting land/ recreation land, Im sure the fact that the whole generation raised on Outdoors T.v. like myself are now of age and in the buying market. My parents and all the adults i grew up around were weekend guys. Now theres a whole age range of men who 25-40 whose entire life is centered around this passion.

Maybe have cell cam providers regulate timing of picture release based off of state and that states regs. Pics will send to the user 3 days, 5 days, 7 days etc after the picture is captured. Minimize intrusion on your property and free up time not having to go check you cams, but eliminate the “advantage” cell cams provide for hunting “in real time”

According to several land management hunting advisor type people, the best thing you can do is let your neighbor have the feeder or the plot 150-200yards from your land. Then make your land attractive for bedding and have AM stands. The deer get full at the neighbors house and come for bedding on your property.

As a native buckeye on the west side of the state where I live. It is flat farm land and small woods lots. So for people hunting theses small wood lots subliminal feeding (corn piles) is the only option food plots are not an option so if corn piles get banned food plots should to. What is the difference both folks are feeding wildlife. The biggest issue is not baiting on the west side of the state it is access there little to none public ground and the large wood lots is leased as a rich men’s game. So baiting gives the average Joe the ability to manage his small wood lot just as the large land owners. Just a thought one of the best way to help the resource is to have a point draw system for non resident to get a buck tags and you keep it one buck state.

Finally got through! Excellent!!! 1) you don’t need bait to kill deer!!!! Iowa, MO, IL, etc etc etc. Absolutely not needed for a successful hunt. 2) the dudes on “5 acres” …. That isn’t meant to kill a buck EVERY YEAR (or multiple!)!!! If u have 10 places to hunt like that including public - that’s how u sustain killing bucks off of small places. “ Everyone has to get their buck off a tiny tract” … unsustainable & will ruin neighborhoods. Yes, it is sustainable to shoot a buck every year off 200 acres. Not 5!!!! 3) every argument for baiting is generally based around “ME ME ME”. Can we think past ourselves and ask what’s best for resource? 4) debate the merits of bait!!! (There aren’t any based on science or facts) & quit comparing to food plots- which don’t have the scientific facts & negatives corn piles do!!! If they are the same - plant a plot! 5) “can’t enforce it”. There’s no law on the books u can’t say same about. How about speeding? How about drugs? Whatever - nothing is 100%. Always be law breakers. That’s a non-argument. Iowa doesn’t allow baiting - folks still do it on occasion & get busted over time. 6) can the folks who love bait & have to have it for ME ME ME understand this isn’t good for the future of hunting, age class, quality of herd, other animals, habitat & ecosystem?!? The world isn’t just about your wants & desires. This is a PUBLIC RESOURCE that u don’t own! & having some “older bucks” is better based on SCIENCE!!! Baiting has got way out of hand the last 10 years. They liter the landscape!!!. It’s a plague!!!!!! Wake up folks. The only thing bait is helping is for a dude to have an easy button at killing. That’s it!!!! With every other downside that comes with it. Come hunt a non-bait state - quality of the experience & resource is far better. Ohio could have the best & highest quality resource for EVERYONE if they got rid of these selfish & short sighted corn piles. It’s time. 💪👍

I think coyotes needs addressed they are getting out of hand

Banning baiting doesn't stop the baiting. I live in Wisconsin where CWD is most prominent and every Farm and Fleet, Fleet Farm, Tractor Supply, Cabelas etc is fully stocked on deer feed, mineral, and other bait. They aren't wasting shelf space to not sell the stuff. The only people you hear of getting caught in the area are the guys that will dump piles of corn where the DNR can spot it from aerial view.

In Missouri it specifically says you do not have to know an area is baited to be guilty of baiting.

One parting thought. If you don't agree with baiting in Ohio, boycott the state. Show them who is boss. Take back all of your revenue that you think they depend upon. It is just that simple. And if you happen to be a resident, start making friends in Iowa.

Love the podcast thanks for the content!!! These conversations are very important! Jeremy! I know I commented on the Miguel‘s Nalgene awhile ago I thought I got out of climbing awhile ago due to getting older and work but I built a boulder wall in my backyard and it brings me back!! Hunting took over my life now but it’s nice to get on a wall once in awhile. Love what you guys are doing !!

I like watching these podcasts. They always make me laugh. If you actually put out corn for an entire season it’s way more work and money than a food plot. It takes 4-6 hours to put out a food plot.

From what I see as an Ohio resident bow hunter for the last 35 years plus is the lose of property to hunt due to the buying up of private property and that also is where the over population of does are. The deer population on public land is low, this is why you can only harvest one doe on public land in Ohio.

Great podcast topics that need to be discussed! Need more mullets in ohio💪

Where in the world is this over population of deer? Southwest Ohio is a shell of its former self. Not even close to being over populated. I can hunt over 1,000 acres. It’s a rarity for me to see more than 5 deer sitting over a 50 acre cornfield, in one of the most amazing deer sanctuaries in Ohio. Butler County has so little deer it is disheartening. Not only that, they decided to raise the deer bag limit up to three from two. Not one hunter that I have talked to in the last two years has had an increase of deer. The DNR is so out of touch with actual hunters and landowners that I don’t see much getting done for hunters or deer.

They still sell the deer corn and minerals here in Tennessee and we can’t use it in the cwd zone.

Jarred, have you or are you willing to share your full bow setup? Getting back into bow hunting this year and I’d like to upgrade my bow and looking at the RX-8 and just trying to figure out what options I want. Would be shooting 80lbs. If you already have shared that could you let me know the episode? Thanks!

Landowners --Tax payers should have a voice regarding the resource.

25 minutes in and my head hurts 😐

What are your guys thoughts on corn piles/supplemental feeding during the spring/summer months to inventory your herd?

On if landowners should buy tags... wait till the Farm Bureau speaks up on that one and i dont see it happening. I believe the Farm Bureau is the biggest voice in the room, by a long shot!

*The issue is fair chase. Prepare to be triggered -Fair chase is archery is having to pull the string on archery tackle while the deer presents a shot. -Fair chase in getting a deer close means having to deal fairly with a deer senses and natural randomized movement patterns. +Modern deer cheats-scent proof deer blinds, bait piles, cell cams. Don Higgins or the Drury etc sitting in a scent proof deer blind shooting a 200" is becoming less and less interesting.

There's a guy in our state that has a 2-acre old horse pasture and between him and his buddies they killed seven bucks off of it in one year and one feeder

Great show. Theres some cry babies in the comments.

Michigan may be going one buck rule here very shortly have some good inside info, announcement soon along with other new regs for 2024

Bagged deer corn is field corn that didn’t pass the aflatoxin test and can’t be sold on the commodity market since most corn is used for cattle feed. Corn for deer has no regulation.

We practice "earn a buck" on the property I hunt in IL with 2 doe before your 1st buck and the buck needs to be 150"+. No problem here, doe are plenty and fun to shoot. Try to get 2 doe early before the pre rut kicks in. Overall the bucks on the property have a better age structure.

Antler restrictions and outlawing corn would push the needle big time. Getting every buck to 2.5 before they are potentially legal creates a much better age structure. They are much harder to kill than yearlings.

If Ohio wants more does shot they need to make a buck tag a combo tag. If you want to shoot a buck you would pay $39. ($24 & $15) and get a buck and doe tag. Might help push guys to shoot a doe if they have to have a tag.

Food plots are baiting. More healthy for the deer generally compared to bagged corn. But still baiting. Corn isn't magic. And its not "ruining" hunting. How do you tell a land owner they can't put out bagged feed? And how do you enforce it, without violating their 4th Amendment?

Simple solution to tagging the invisible deer: have hunters donate a doe and get confirmation from the processor and earn the 1st or 2nd tag…

3 buck tags in iowa is a huge issue. Resident here and can vouch for it

Also it says u can use drones to recover wounded deer in Ohio and if you find the deer alive u have to quit using the drone and then can pursue the deer

Per the book you have to check the deer in before you can shoot another deer. No where does it say you have to put a tag on the deer unless you leave the deer unattended or go to a permanent residence. So shoot a doe, if u watch her fall then tag on your phone and keep hunting. And no limit on how many you can kill per day.

Are you really sure you want lobbyist being the ones making the rules on wildlife management decisions? What happens when you get out lobbied by a group that passes a law to move the gun season week to 2 weeks during the middle of the rut. We have a good DOW deer program and leaders in Tonk and Clint. Why not lobby to let the wildlife biologists do their job without fear of losing their job?

I'm not in a bait state but just an idea. Create a doe only season and only allow in season baiting during that season. That will allow meat hunters to still bait and harvest meat ? @huntr

Hate to break it to you guys but even if baiting is banned it's still going to happen. Baiting has been banned for years since CWD and yet when season starts every single gas station has piles of bait. We own several properties and ALL of our neighbors still bait. And 1 CO per 3 counties, they can enforce it. A ban on baiting only hurts the select few that actually follow the law. And benefits those still bait even more..

Regarding deer corn sold in PA. I have rentals on a wooded property and out of 8 houses probably 4 people who don't hunt buy deer corn because they like to see deer and squirrels. That's who is buying deer corn in Pa

I live in Vermont and you cannot bait deer! We do not have CWD! FYI!

Are you guys old enough to have hunted when baiting was illegal? Here’s a hint - your neighbor is going to bait whether you like it or not. So you’re going to go from complaining about legal baiting to complaining about illegal baiting.

Why don't you guys do other content? Like gym days, cooking videos, gear videos, crazy stories videos like how'd Jared lose his finger? Dude I'm 33 and have the craziest stories from the 90s I'm about to start making videos about. People wanna hear about this stuff lol lucky us.

Ban baiting,its NOT hunting..Everyone has lost what hunting is all about..

Now there are talks about the Michigan DNR bringing back baiting to part of the state.

Baiting for turkeys is not legal in OHIO-I looked it up this year "it is illegal to hunt wild turkeys with bait in Ohio during the 2024 spring turkey season. This includes hunting in or over a baited area, which is considered baited for 10 days after all bait has been removed."

Leviticus 23:22 "When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the Lord your God"

Ohio manages its deer herd for 1 thing only$$$$.

2:34:50 you cant find one legal case in PA where anything relating to trail cameras has been used against a hunter who did anything illegal. Youre kind of freaking out about nothing

Let’s not act like children.

Should just start trying to form co-ops with your nieghbors a folks in the area where y’all agree to either not bait or atleast manage for a certain age class of bucks. If all these people want bigger bucks an no baiting, it should be easy to get all these like minded hunters in your area onboard

Ooooohhhh you're gonna upset them

I think you need to look up the numbers on pa They are losing hunters

I'm putting thousands of dollars into creating food plots believe me I don't want to buy corn to throw it on the ground. I want the deer to go to my food plots. In Ohio I have to put corn out to keep some deer on the property. This year i planted 3 acres of corn at my house in PA so i don't have to buy corn from the store to maintain baiting in season. I would love to not have to bait

What about the out of state hunters fee being so low and coming to Ohio and shooting 4 points because they can’t do that in there state

3:04:30 yall regularly underestimate how large of a bubble the baby boomer population group is, especially in the hunting community. Please explore yourselves how large of a chunk of everything they still are. Basically no matter what we do, we are going to lose hundreds of thousands of hunters in almost every state. Now why do you see so many more hunters in states/areas you didnt before? Its never ever been easier to hunt new ground. Between baiting, mapping technology, cameras, and social media. Hunters can be 100times better today at hunting than ever before

Where’s my hat ????

That rule wasnt put in place for the turkeys

The data and arguments contradict themselves so much. So there’s apparently to many deer, right? There’s also less hunters, right? So please explain how corn piles and cell cameras are decimating the deer herd IF we have less hunters and to many deer? Yall hunt private land and can’t provide ONE case study that shows corn piles are wiping out the deer herd. It’s all personal. You guys have target bucks you spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on food plots and thousands of dollars on trail cameras. THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE ON 1 Acre will shoot the deer your after over a corn pile makes you so angry and stressed that you guys go on for hours ranting about banning baiting. Let’s have an unbiased opinion here if you guys want to truly have a voice. Let’s look at this from another angle. If you want to be truly unbiased ban food plots that aren’t used for AG use and ban bait piles. The deer herd was doing just fine well before you decided to start putting in food plots. So please explain to me how deer that you’re literally going to kill benefit from a food plot but not from a corn pile. Your only argument is the ego that spends countless hours and tons of money to make your bait pile. This whole argument about cell cameras is even worse. Ohio is a 1 buck state. The regs that we have in place make us a state that is still killing more giants than 95% other states! Who cares if a guy runs a cell camera? You guys sit there in front of this camera and walk around in circles contradicting yourself at every turn. THE DATA AND FACTS are saying different. I’m an Ohio resident lived here my whole life. I believe they should go to a draw state. If you don’t reside here you need to draw to hunt here. Baiting is not the problem, cell cameras are not the problem. The problem with hunting is people like you guys! 😂 You buy up land and turn this into a money sport and believe you’re more important than everyone else. Oh yeah we need more hunters but let’s screw all of the guys that don’t have the time or resources to build a fucking food plot. I’m sure that’s going to generate more hunters. Let’s keep buying all of the land that way we can lease it out to the rich guys. Hunting is a humbling thing it’s a natural thing and idiots like you believe you’re more entitled than everyone else. NEWS FLASH “baiting” has been used FOREVER. I hunt 90% of the time public land how about we address how terrible public land hunting is. We want to generate more hunters but you guys sit there and talk about private land as if every hunter actually owns private land that they can actually hunt.

The problem with corn piles everybody is shooting younger. Nice bucks and it is hurting the older class deer because they can never make it that far being able to Walk to any corn pile at a younger age ..3 to 5 years won't be no big bucks around like used to be Just stop in season baiting

A lot of the doe discussions but here in hocking county ohio we can only kill two deer one buck on doe or two does

That's what we need, Hunters attacking other hunters' ways of hunting. It's bad enough the anti-hunters and media attack hunters now hunters are attacking hunters. Anything a human put in the ground, on top of the ground, on a limb, on a post to attract and hold deer to hunt hem is baiting. Food plots, food piles, feeders, mock scrapes, water tubs, deer urine they are all baiting. There is a direct correlation with the increase in CWD and the increase in food plots and mock scrapes. Food plots concentrate deer 365 days urinating and defecating all over the plot and feeding after each other spreading disease like wildfire and more deer hit the food plots than a food pile. In addition, every bird and mammal are doing the same thing in those food plots. Countless deer licking the same licking branch at a mock scrape spreads disease so fast it's mind boggling. Maybe we should have all the public land hunters write the Council and demand food plots be illegal because of disease spread and because it causes more deer to be on private land than public land, thus ruining public land hunting. To enforce no baiting the state will have to have inspectors walk every foot of private land repeatedly during hunting season to make sure private landowners aren't violating the regs, I'm sure landowners will love inspectors walking all over their land during hunting season totally unannounced to ensure compliance. I own hunting land and I don't use food plots, nor food piles, nor mock scrapes because I don't want to spread animal diseases. I would prefer my neighbors followed suit but I'm not a control freak thinking I have the right to tell other land owners what to do and police them. Why does any landowner want to increase the governments rights and decrease their rights on their own land.

Lmao , xbow pride month 😂😂😂😂😂

These two nobodies will change a thing. It’s nice to have a dream though. 😂

2:40:12 crossbows are the most ethical form of archery harvest, and just because you can shoot 100 yards (which you can do with modern compounds, happens at every competition) unless youre sitting on a field edge, or a complete moron, youre shooting under 50 yards everytime just like with a compound. Its not possible to shoot 100 yards in the woods even with a crossbow 99% of the time Your issues with how they’re used has more to do with how the individual hunter uses them. And dumb unethical hunters have always existed. Its why so many hunters are against semi auto rifles in PA. People being dumb with them risking other hunter lives. Dumb hunters have always and will always exist

Get rid of non resident deer outfitters.

Yall have really began to question cell cams. I’m on the same page. Used the shit out of them but I’ve run so many that I’m wondering how much they help me…from a mostly public land hunter. Starting to be way too many of them littered around the woods.

Michigan band baiting are lost over 20% of hunters

"Unless you put in the time and effort of a food plot and manage large tracts of land, you don't deserve the opportunity of the hunt" . Without even listening to this podcast, am i close to the content? Funny how biased you all are in your narrow narrative. Maybe look at the data instead of repeating the false narrative. PROVE ME WRONG

Ban baiting. Food plots. Trail cams. Crossbows. Get back 2 what hunting is about.

2:49:45 yall do sound an awful lot like fly fishing purists sometimes

It's easier to kill a big buck using game cameras than bait piles. You big buck hunters live and die buy the camera. You guys would be lost without the camera and you success rate would drop.

Don’t hunt ohio.

Here's an idea Jeremy, try to understand the other side of the issue instead of being pretentious and thinking that the other side doesn't care about the resource. Just because its not our profession, doesn't mean we aren't educated.

Lol at these 2 advocates. Their website starts off about this being about God. It then states it’s cores issues. Baiting is the only issue listed. It then lists all these negative impacts caused by baiting. But it never mentions the reason they are trying to get rid of baiting, because they feel it’s hurting the big buck hunting. They are so disingenuous. The website is a joke.

"I think", "I feel", "I don't know". But you're all sure that "the corn piles need to go" cuz their the devil.

Crossbows are huge in Ohio. Harvest would be reduced dramatically if they were illegal. If I sent you a picture of my 2 neighbors that shot nice bucks with crossbows last year you would see that those guys are not picking up a compound bow to shoot a deer. It's probably not even possible for them. It would flat elimnate a bunch of hunters in Ohio who would more than likely just go back to gun hunting. (which crossbow hunting is pretty close to gun hunting

small food plots are no different,..in fact more effective.

corn kills traditional ecosystems and free-range deer farmers will do a lot of mental gymnastics to distance themselves from their current tactics taking away from the challenge that got them started. segmenting archery seasons based on the ease of mastery of the equipment would be nice, bare traditional bows having the longest season compounds shorter and crossbows having the narrowest window, similar idea to some of the newer muzzle-loader restrictions fighting modern muzzle-loader technology.

Using a crossbow simply is not bow hunting. Sorry, not sorry

I like how they said they will make up whatever they can to get what they want. Unbelievable we need hunters to come together and fight guys like this to keep baiting legal

Get rid of baits get rid of cameras give bow hunters. Crossbow and gun hunters 2 weeks to tag out done

You guys still on this baiting kick I hate to break it to you baiting never gonna go away. Some people just aren’t good hunters help them to put meat in their freezer. Maybe that’s a big part of their lifestyle. Just trying to survive then you got used to guys, whining and crying I’ve never heard more about a subject than used two. Looks to me like used to are looking for clout and trying to fatten that wallet by selling properties that you manage or any other way shape or form that comes in just an opinion good luck, fellas.

I think cell cams are worse than bait. Guys can sit on their couch in Indiana and monitor deer in PA in real time. Pretty soon they'll have Harry Potter invisibility cloaks and be drone lifted to their trees.

1:00:58 ive got time to practice with a compound, however i never will, crossbows are the most ethical form of archery harvests, that matters more to be than the archery communities ego

And to the one of you that doesn’t like SD cams…not sure of your experience on them vs cell but my experience is many deer and especially mature bucks pick up on something from cell cams on video mode…year after year my SD cams have significantly more traffic and repeat bucks. This is across many different brands. My reveals seem to be the worst as far as alerting deer.

Take away cell phones, and video games from kids and the license sales would skyrocket

My urban hunting experience would be terrible without baiting. I'd hope if they ever did ban baiting they would still allow it in city hunting. Took a 133 inch on 1 acre last year because bait.

From South Dakota. Hunting would suck if bait8ng was legal because guys like the doctor who neighbor my land would be able to afford however much corn they could dream of but i cant afford any corn. So his 160 acres would be loaded with deer taken off of my land because i cant afford what that guy can.

Why don’t yall just put fences up around your properties and just grow the deer. You’re running 50-60 cell cameras a year, Putting in food plots why not just go the extra mile and put a fence around the property? yall can manage your own deer herd you can grow the deer. You can keep your foot plots and a corn pile won’t ever affect you again.

Cry baby’s

Speaking of welfare, Jeremy, has that CRP check arrived yet?

U guys sound like Biden

Hate to break it to you guys but even if baiting is banned it's still going to happen. Baiting has been banned for years since CWD and yet when season starts every single gas station has piles of bait. We own several properties and ALL of our neighbors still bait. And 1 CO per 3 counties, they can enforce it. A ban on baiting only hurts the select few that actually follow the law. And benefits those still bait even more..