the lion said thats my son

Def a perpetual

The legion, yes

They are the first legion!

They are mary sues. Their chapter does everything well, because of the Wings stuff And their theme is beeing emo without having black hair

Yeah, it was given to them alongside their cool gear

​@@Scarletraven87Ah yes, the mary sues who nobody trusts, not even their own brothers and who won't trust even their closest allies. The mary sues who had a third of their legion trun traitor the first chance they got. The mary sues who, by wanting to do good, cursed themselves to pursue their fallen hunt because they're in too deep. Those mary sues?

You’ve read what’s already offered I assume since you know about the psychic aegis and that he’s one of the uncrowned princes.

500

​@@yesman866 Would you please clarify what you are talking about?

@@josephboustany4852The very first batches of space marines were all first legion, then plainly named 'Angels of Death' and later 'Uncrowned Princes', until the Lion was found and he renamed them to 'Dark Angels.' These prototype astartes were led by the Emperor himself in battle, and to make them suited for the many psychic threats on Terra and beyond, he gave them all an insignificantly small fraction of his power and soul to shield their minds from psychic influences. Astelan was one of these first Terran marines, as he is very old, and if one tries to look into his mind, they are repulsed by what is described as "feeling like you're standing next to the sun."

​@@sugarcombfilms3467 this astelan person is still alive?

Looking as he became epemitheus, one of grand masters of Grey knights, no chance

​@@ukaszbiaek6641 Was it not Zahariel? Zahariel was one of the best psykers of D.A during the great crusade.

@@sanguinarius4458 No. it was nemean. Zahariel became Lord Cypher and traitor to the Imperium, siding with Luther

@@ukaszbiaek6641 Cypher? Cypher hasn't shown any psyker abilities thus far, although many speculate that his successful evasions were influenced by him being a psyker. Point being: that was a theory.

@@sanguinarius4458 pal. Zahariel is Luther`s Cypher, last seen during the fall of Caliban. Nemean became one of GK grand masters before siege of Terra. If you want to argue, first check the lore.

Yes, he did

No. LOTD are Astartes who fell in battle. I believe this guy is still alive.

Simple, according to lore he is not

Would be insane ngl, but don't make them primaris from the beginning. A random new chapter wearing DA heraldry popping out of the Pale Stars wielding fancy ancient tech would be sick.

Who says that?

@@Marcus10k this guy I meet in at my LGS, I'm new to 40k and I picked the dark angels as my first character AND HE WENT ON A TIERADE ABOUT THEM FOR 2 HOURS on how they didn't stop the heresy or the Lion not being there on Terra, and not doing anything after the emperor fell, he said some nasty things about ultra Marines for some reason, I haven't read any lore so I'm not sure what he's talking about. He really really likes fulcrum. All the Google searches I've done do not support him in any way and all the other people I've met say he's a bit of a cry baby,

Not everyone in the hobby is like that luckily, but yeah theres still alot of them unfortunately. ​@@mrthe4198

@@mrthe4198 wow. That is a wild take.

@@Marcus10k is it? He right or wrong in any way?

He founded an Independent empire, and fought Xeno-Human Hybrids.

I have a round 110 astartes models, 5 total dreads, and several predators/ land raiders/rhinos. Did them all as space wolves. Horus heresy models btw. I ended up falling for the world eaters and after grabbing angron and a sheet of transfers I stripped all of my models and I'm about halfway done switching them to world eaters. Just because you already finished some of your models doesn't mean you cant remove the paint and do them as the legion you want. I will say though my wife wasn't happy when she saw what I was doing since it all takes forever lol

@@MyXyle666 yeah, that’s a lot of extra work for you as well! Do you mean “110 SM models”? Or are you talking about the Big Golden Boys? Yeah, I only have 3 dreads done! But I also a few tanks and a few flyers and I think I’m well over 110 SM Troopers! But also since they don’t really “sell” the emblems of chapter I made, everything is freehand! So that’s at least a extra 20 minutes to each shoulder pad and a extra 15-20 minutes for each units markings (of and only if I got it right the first time and didn’t have to restart! Which was rare)! I know it’s over a normal size army…….. now! But I was going off of a lot of, um…… incorrect, wrong and intentionally misleading information! So l know “I could”! But I also know the insane amount of work it would be to do so!!! That’s all I really meant

Not co-existence, _hybridization._ So a bunch of mutant, half xenos freaks that definitely fell well outside the Emperor's design. Plus, this is the pale stars we're talking about, so they were probably true abominations.

@@gasterblaster9817 purge the xenos!!!

Human-xeno crossbreeds from Pale Stars are not something pretty, trust me.

​@@MrVlad12340I heard pale stars then was like oh so he was justified in purging

The Horus Heresy Book Six The Buried Dagger (Novel) - Chapters 6-7 The Horus Heresy: Legions

DEUS VULT!

No idea.

Space Marines are not immortal. They do age, albeit extremely slowly. They can live for centuries or, in a very few cases, millennia. But still not truly immortal.

The oldest Space Marine is Dante at around 1'500 and he is feeling his age. The oldest physically is Barabos Dantioch at 3'000 (his actual age is about 200) and like Dante, he was really feeling his age and, unlike Dante, looked like shit.

Nope, third party, so renegade.

Garro books in the HH

No idea.