The Dumbest Connectors Ever

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There are a LOT of ports used for charging and connecting your devices, but not all ports are created equal, so we made a list of some of the worst ports of all time.
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@michaelwillman5342
@michaelwillman5342 Жыл бұрын
I can hear a billion ethernet cables with broken tabs all crying out at once.
@RinoAP
@RinoAP Жыл бұрын
literally me years ago
@whaduzitmatr
@whaduzitmatr Жыл бұрын
rj11 phone jack tabs break off even easier
@ronmaximilian6953
@ronmaximilian6953 Жыл бұрын
Given 10 to 15 minutes of frustration and the right equipment, one can replace these.
@Thanatos2996
@Thanatos2996 Жыл бұрын
Still worlds better than MicroUSB. The females don't wear out, and the males are simple to replace.
@jackkraken3888
@jackkraken3888 Жыл бұрын
And so many times it see them crimped without the protective jacket and if that's not bad enough they are improperly crimped so all the strain is on the little wires instead of the PVC jacket.
@lordkell1986
@lordkell1986 Жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to praise the movement from IDE to SATA cables back in the 2000s?! The insides of computer cases never again needed to be birds nests of ribbon cables folded in on themselves.
@autumnvolume4181
@autumnvolume4181 Жыл бұрын
That long ago, huh? I've been out of the PC building game longer than I thought.
@brayannexon4613
@brayannexon4613 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah my old compaq d510s still has those lovely ide ribbons.
@FastSloth87
@FastSloth87 Жыл бұрын
I used to fold them and route them flat so freaking neatly, it was amazing.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
I remember when finding IDE cables that were round was a big deal.
@FastSloth87
@FastSloth87 Жыл бұрын
@@lyianx I hated those, they were ugly imo. Black flat ones when routed nicely looked much better.
@dsouth7754
@dsouth7754 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite moments in college was when my professor was showing us older hardware and I pointed out a SCSI interface on a drive. This was 2015, mind you, and his exact words were "now how the hell did you know that?!" He was an awesome retro tech guy who probably didn't expect anybody under 40 to identify a SCSI interface.
@ElNeroDiablo
@ElNeroDiablo Жыл бұрын
Back in '04, I was doing a Cert2 in IT at CIT, and one thing the teacher that did the class for computer hardware would do is give us old 386, 486 and Pentium systems with various types of sabotage, and we as the class had to diagnose and undo the sabotage to get a working system. Let's just say growing up learning how to repair and build AT/BabyAT PC's since I was 5 came in handy as I was often the first to have a machine working and would help the other class members diagnose their sabotaged systems. XD That and I read front-to-back the hardback textbook for that course covering hardware and software, and could easily point out the mistakes in it for a laugh.
@Unicorn161
@Unicorn161 Жыл бұрын
SCSI was faster than IDE, and it lived on in servers for a while. Into the later 00's. When SSDs became cheap, reliable, and long lasting.
@OddlyIncredible
@OddlyIncredible Жыл бұрын
Back in the late 90s and early 2000s, SCSI was the only real path to data storage performance over 133MHz, and early scanners were SCSI _only._ I had a powerhouse frankenputer with internal SCSI to hard drives and external to a Jaz drive (remember those?) and a flatbed scanner. The advent of high speed serial buses like SATA and USB effectively killed SCSI, but SAS (Serial-Attached SCSI) is a more modern thing.
@krashd
@krashd Жыл бұрын
I remember in the pre-Plug n Play days whenever you did a "scan for hardware" Windows would recommend that you disconnect any SCSI devices as a hardware scan could wipe the partition table. SCSI devices always seemed like sensitive little souls to me.
@pmc_
@pmc_ 3 ай бұрын
​@@Unicorn161it still lives on in servers today, as Serial Attached SCSI
@semibreve
@semibreve Жыл бұрын
Man it's amazing seeing Anthony absolutely smash a Techquickie out of the park: Man's totally hit his stride as a host, I'm really impressed
@OriginalMergatroid
@OriginalMergatroid Жыл бұрын
You got some brown on your lip there.....
@labamba3011
@labamba3011 Жыл бұрын
Sorry James, the writers of all Linus stuff need to write for different people, not make everyone sound like Linus. For example, they could make Anthony the basement-dwelling chip-eating geek that they can make light-hearted digs about.
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist Жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂
@quanghuyvu2649
@quanghuyvu2649 9 ай бұрын
Bro, it's "she". Emily
@LiteralDescend
@LiteralDescend 9 ай бұрын
@@quanghuyvu2649 you are late for a year
@fraginz
@fraginz Жыл бұрын
molex connector: A connector that looks like it connected loosely, but you know you're gonna have a bad time disconnecting it
@jasonbay13
@jasonbay13 Жыл бұрын
or, if from a cheap manufacturer, can actually plug in backwards easy enough and send 12v to the 5v rail of your hdd. inevitably this fries it to never be recovered.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Жыл бұрын
Molex: When the weakling in your school is over 9000 and some chad decides to mess with him.
@DCkogsch
@DCkogsch Жыл бұрын
Just pull the wires. Easy.
@gharretje
@gharretje Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbay13 that was also a bit of a feature. Running a fan on 5V instead of 12V.
@edrsa
@edrsa Жыл бұрын
And when it finally comes loose you smash your hand into razor sharp steel plates inside your case
@Helladamnleet
@Helladamnleet Жыл бұрын
The fact there actually IS a standard for front audio ports yet a lot of case manufacturers don't follow it drives me insane
@koghs
@koghs Жыл бұрын
Modern audio standards are cringe and suck
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын
Which front audio standard? I know of at least two standard pin headers as well as like you say a lot of OEMs just going there own way.
@Curt_Sampson
@Curt_Sampson Жыл бұрын
@@TheWebstaff The nice thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from!
@KuntaKinteToby
@KuntaKinteToby Жыл бұрын
Its even more infuriating when companies like Thermaltake use, and do not use the standard sporadically across their product lines. Meaning they know of it, they know to implement, but sometimes just say 'whatever' and do what they want anyway.
@ufukpolat3480
@ufukpolat3480 Жыл бұрын
Front audio ports are an abomination. Your motherboard audio connectors almost always have better sound quality and there is no point of plugging in and pulling out audio connectors on a regular basis. Just plug your headset to the back and be done with it.
@AustinG13
@AustinG13 3 ай бұрын
2 words, micro HDMI
@janheikel7751
@janheikel7751 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the DVI-A/D/I mess didn't make the list. I would also like to give an honorable mention from the music world to using the same connectors in instrument and speaker cables.
@I.C.Weiner
@I.C.Weiner Жыл бұрын
Dvi-a the oxymoron of cables.
@robertulrich3964
@robertulrich3964 Жыл бұрын
those drove me nuts. amazon always shipped the wrong variant. and no one knew the differences.
@elbiggus
@elbiggus Жыл бұрын
Of all the advancements in PC technology over the years, the death of ribbon cables often gets neglected. They were awkward to route, ugly, easy to plug in incorrectly, and just generally awful, and I do not miss them one iota.
@Trithis2077
@Trithis2077 Жыл бұрын
I mean, iof you've ever opended a Laptop or Phone, you'd know that ribbon cables never actualy died off, they just got smaller and eaiser to break.
@myrealusername2193
@myrealusername2193 Жыл бұрын
@@Trithis2077 yeah I killed a camera I was trying to fix by accidentally tearing literally a single ribbon cable. Absurdly annoying
@notme222
@notme222 Жыл бұрын
@@myrealusername2193 Yeah, trying to replace a battery in a phone I tore a ribbon cable just opening the case.
@ilenastarbreeze4978
@ilenastarbreeze4978 Жыл бұрын
heh i was working on a pc that had ribbon cables (it predated sata) about 4 years ago now, was glorious fun to go back in time to literally 1990 as it was a working (mostly, i was in a comptuer repair shop) pc , ah prisons
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull Жыл бұрын
@@Trithis2077 or a game controller... Or a game console I've broken so many of the stupid plastic ribbon cable fastener things in motherboards that the hot glue I used to fasten them in instead was softened by my frustrated tears.
@GavinSeim
@GavinSeim Жыл бұрын
Remember when Every cell phone has a new and proprietary connector forever model and grand. Maybe it was too painful and we blocked it from our minds. 🙁
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
Bless the laws that mandated it. And on that topic, we're going a step further and a law requiring USB-C by 2024 is already there. Yes, even iPhones.
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 Жыл бұрын
Thats why I pick up proprietary phone chargers at yard sales.
@irisbaggins
@irisbaggins Жыл бұрын
And I still see some to this day...we even have a whole box of whacky charging cables at work because someone WILL come in with an old ass phone wanting to either trade it, or worse, have us fix it
@coladict
@coladict Жыл бұрын
I remember Samsung doing that, but Nokia tried to stick to a connector for many models over years.
@nickryan3417
@nickryan3417 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and I came across some chump who declared that Apple *must* be allowed to "innovate" in (expensive, proprietary) cables and they plainly never had to live through the chore of every single damn model and brand having a different adaptor. Because they could. The move to USB was such an instant improvement.
@MtnNerd
@MtnNerd Жыл бұрын
I fixed my washer recently, and recognized those molex/amp connectors. My unit dates to around 2014, so I guess they are alive and well in industrial functions. They were a PITA to get apart, so probably a good solution for something you want to put together once and never come apart except for repair.
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 20 күн бұрын
Yes they will be around forever because they work perfectly fine in their intended applications i.e. a cheap reliable DC connector that won't vibrate loose and only needs to be connected once and rarely if ever serviced.
@Elhao
@Elhao Жыл бұрын
Just this weekend I built a new PC and the front panel connectors were the only thing I had to look up in the manual and constantly refer to while connecting the cables. The pain is real.
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin Жыл бұрын
Did you get an actual paper manual? I just bought a new mobo to replace my aging one, and they're like, "Scan the QR code!" ...ffs
@Elhao
@Elhao Жыл бұрын
@@TotemoGaijin Not 100% sure anymore but I think I had to check my smartphone, too.
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin Жыл бұрын
@@Elhao what a pain in the butt, lol
@asherlevi33
@asherlevi33 Жыл бұрын
Who thought that having 20 super fragile pins in a huge connector that is super hard to insert and take out was an okay standard for internal USB 3.0!?
@Incommensurabilities
@Incommensurabilities Жыл бұрын
I have a PCI-E USB 3.0 board which I connected to the internal USB 3.0 header. It is literally jammed in and it's easier to uninstall the PCI-E card than remove the connector
@elvisharp-uquillas6989
@elvisharp-uquillas6989 Жыл бұрын
@@Incommensurabilities The last time I had to unplug my 3.0 connector, it took the entire little plastic house with it, and I had to press that back into place
@OriginalUnknown2
@OriginalUnknown2 Жыл бұрын
@@Incommensurabilities I got a PCI-e USB 3.0 extension card for my gf's pc as she has 2x2 usb 3.0 front panel ports, but only 1 internal usb 3 header - one of the front panel internal headers plugs on the port on the pci-e card and it also provides 4 additional usb 3.0 ports in the back. Its great! She wanted the pc taken apart to clean it and replace a few things - We were unable to unplug that front panel header. What eneded up happening id the plastic internal port casing, still attached to the cable, came off the card and the pins... I say its great, if you're careful, you can simply plug it back on and have just enough friction so it doesnt come off on its own, but makes it effortless to remove in the future. Only catch is the internal header on the card looks like a flayed skeleton when the casing is removed 😂
@jimmyb1451
@jimmyb1451 Жыл бұрын
I truly don't understand how it is that people have such trouble with connectors. I've worked in television, in telecommunications and in professional audio where cables and connectors can be worth 1000's of dollars each PLUG. Some with literally 1000's of connections and extremely delicate pins. Plugs and sockets are really quite simple, all you have to do is align them before applying any force. I'm yet to destroy a micro USB cable or socket. I just don't get it.
@OriginalUnknown2
@OriginalUnknown2 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyb1451 I've personally never damaged any connectors - that story is very unique to the USB 3.0 internal headers, it was relevant so I shared it, but other than that I have never had any issues with any connectors. Like you said, just align it properly before applying any force, and you're absolutely correct. That said, some connectors are in fact quite poorly designed and built, I'm sure you would agree too
@voyager33mw
@voyager33mw Жыл бұрын
I'm always fascinated with how PC building montages never include hooking up the front panel connectors.
@theremoteanater
@theremoteanater Жыл бұрын
I dislike it to
@snarkylive
@snarkylive Жыл бұрын
+45 minutes to the video reading the manual, and trying to get the correct polarity on pins the builder can barely see
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 Жыл бұрын
Especially when there aren't enough connections on them otherboard..... And the front USB C and all 4 USB 3 connectors still work somehow..... Yeah, this is what happened to me, idk, magic.
@xenorac
@xenorac Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and this is the only part of a PC build I fear!
@oliverbroad4433
@oliverbroad4433 Жыл бұрын
It seems kind of weird that the industry hasn't converged on one pattern for the power switch, on-light and activity lights at least. The connector for USB ports does seem to have converged on a 5x2 way block with 4 pins for each port, one shield pin and one blanked. Incidentally someone told me the connectors on the wires were called Dupont connectors, though they aren't made by Dupont.
@mannythebaka7522
@mannythebaka7522 Жыл бұрын
This guy should do more videos, he less annoying and has a good energy about him. He reminds me of a lot of friends I grew up with.
@jscheunemann
@jscheunemann 26 күн бұрын
I know THEY should…
@BrapBrapDorito
@BrapBrapDorito Жыл бұрын
Funny story about front panel connectors: When I built my second pc, the new motherboard I had purchased not only had incredibly flimsy pins for the front panel connectors, but they were also entirely unlabeled. You had to use the motherboard manual to see where each connector went in. Thanks MSI!
@Retr0Bright22
@Retr0Bright22 Жыл бұрын
MSI moment
@jerelull9629
@jerelull9629 Жыл бұрын
One of the things that blew my mind was one early(-ish) Mac I had. With a half-dozen cables and terminators arrayed to connect, they all plugged in exactly one place each, flawlessly, and it worked the first attempt. I loved the *idea* of USB: "One connector to connect them all", Right in front of me, there's a USB "device connector" I got with these cheap earbuds. It's no USB standard I've seen, and is devilishly difficult to properly connect, possibly because I don't have a lot of light where I strung that cable to. So far, I don't THINK I've bent pins in my fumbling, but having lucked out on another earbuds' USB-C connector, which connects like a breeze in the dark, The Cheap-o's connector is particularly annoying since it's nearly as big as the USB-C connector and it's new enough that USB-C existed before it was designed and constructed.
@rossjennings4755
@rossjennings4755 Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised Micro-USB made it in this list. I'm not going to try to defend its durability, but when it first came along it was revolutionary in providing, for the first time, a somewhat standard charging connector for (non-Apple) phones, in place of the mess of proprietary junk that came before.
@HtotheG
@HtotheG Жыл бұрын
I see your point of a standard cord, its always nice when even an iPhone user might have a cable for you to charge. But they standardized a terrible port that still haunts us till this day just because of it's cheap cost and we've all accepted having a million of these cables and replacing them every few weeks to months, the long term waste impact alone validated micro USB for nomination on the list imo.
@daemonbyte
@daemonbyte Жыл бұрын
the standard happened because the EU told them to pick a standard or face what has now come to pass because apple couldn't follow through despite committing to it. But it didn't have to be usb micro. That said to be honest I've never had an issue with micro so perhaps people are just to heavy handed :D
@eto6197
@eto6197 Жыл бұрын
Issues I had with Micro-USB ports and connectors: 0 Issues I had with Apple Lightning ports and connectors I had: 5 I was really surprised to see Micro-USB here. I really never had an issue with a cable or connector, but I had several non-working/broken cables/connectors for my corporate Iphone. I usually handle my cables with appropriate care, which might be a reason that the "problems" of Micro-USB never had an impact on me.
@halcyonacoustic7366
@halcyonacoustic7366 Жыл бұрын
Micro USB failing was basically an inevitability for me... but I often used devices far beyond their intended life spans.
@castome7pi
@castome7pi Жыл бұрын
Micro-USB was a clear downgrade compared to Mini-USB, Micro-USB doesn't make sense to me at all as a connector when you already had the Mini-USB
@XzTS-Roostro
@XzTS-Roostro Жыл бұрын
Y'all should do a video on connections that can be daisy-chained (ie: FireWire, ThunderBolt, DisplayPort)
@the123king
@the123king Жыл бұрын
SCSI. Why have one connector standard when you can have 3? And daisy chaining! And termination!
@DJphotoandtech
@DJphotoandtech Жыл бұрын
I remember having to spend an ungodly amount on a PCI-e Firewire card so I could connect a camcorder to my PC and get footage off MiniDV tapes.
@cerealport2726
@cerealport2726 Жыл бұрын
Daisy-chaining was something that was touted as an amazing selling point of USB when it was first released. For some reason, tech. commentators believed the hype, and thought hardware manufacturers would build in extra ports for this, despite there being absolutely no incentive or advantage to do so, except perhaps in rare situations.
@derrekvanee4567
@derrekvanee4567 Жыл бұрын
Try hooking a gpu up to a tiny cheap MCU OVER 1X PCIe to....anything. The Chinese have a eGPU adapter but expensive and goes into CardReader port and who has thst anymore
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu Жыл бұрын
My A1200(Commodore machine from '91, used the classic "compact wedge" all-in-one design) would daisy chain external drives. It was actually really useful, especially due to the machines The floppy drives used a connector similar to a parallel printer port which was on the back of the machine, worked fine and needed no termination. The CD-ROM(among others) was a PCIMIA card connector on the side of the machine, that could use SCSI to daisy chain, well, standard SCSI devices. This slot was a pain in the arse. First off, them PCIMIA cards would break after about a year of use. Even if you never moved it and the rubber feet were flush on a flat surface, they were just poorly designed. The second issue is it requires termination, and if some prick lost your terminator, all your SCSI devices would be unusable.
@richardirvine2220
@richardirvine2220 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where Anthony went? I have not seen him in a video in quite a long time...
@JamieVatarga
@JamieVatarga 3 ай бұрын
They came out as trans, and decided not to be in videos for a while due to the possibility of backlash.
@richardirvine2220
@richardirvine2220 3 ай бұрын
@@JamieVatarga oh! Thank you so much. I really hope they are doing very well. I always was a big fan of Anthony. I wonder what their name may be, if chosen to do that... thanks again for letting me know and have a great day.
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 3 ай бұрын
​@@JamieVatargaHe not they
@sonarinfection
@sonarinfection 3 ай бұрын
Waaa​@@motoryzen
@motoryzen
@motoryzen 3 ай бұрын
@sonarinfection Why are you crying towards me for kid? It's not my problem nor fault you have a problem with facts that i've stayed No one's here to be your therapist so move on
@ALIREZAMOHAMMADSHAH
@ALIREZAMOHAMMADSHAH Жыл бұрын
it's great to see big names sponsoring youtube videos, great job Techquikie
@murlock666
@murlock666 Жыл бұрын
30 years of PC gaming and building, also worked in a shop. Front panel connectors are simply the absolute worst. Nothing has changed since 286 days. Still fiddly AF, Surely there must be a better way!?
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
There can be. Problem is all the motherboard and case manufactures have to agree on a new standard to use, which would of course make older ones obsolete. Only an issue for cases really, and that could be solved with an adapter to convert it if you didnt want a new case. But the front panel connectors have changed in what is even on them, so who knows.
@Enkelados1
@Enkelados1 Жыл бұрын
@@lyianx shouldn't that actually incentive case manufactures to create a new standard? So they can sell new cases.
@ThZuao
@ThZuao Жыл бұрын
Simply gluing all the connectors togheter and standardizing the pinout would be leaps and bounds improvement.
@LizardVideoDude
@LizardVideoDude Жыл бұрын
The ones for LEDs are particularly fun, having separate + and - connectors you have to get right. IF you're even able to read that part of the tiny print on them.
@ailivac
@ailivac Жыл бұрын
@@lyianx oh it would be trivial for someone to come up with a standard, as long as there was an easy to use adapter for the transition. But the 5 minutes of annoyance it causes over the life of every DIY system isn't worth it, especially since the current approach is technically still workable, and there isn't another standard to roll it into like USB or AC97
@_reverse-psycho_855
@_reverse-psycho_855 Жыл бұрын
USB 3.0 headers are my enemy Also those 24 pin power cables are notoriously difficult to unplug
@sourcethunderlight2723
@sourcethunderlight2723 Жыл бұрын
It is not uncommon to unplug the USB 3 header connector itself from the motherboard
@BrettDalton
@BrettDalton Жыл бұрын
This
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
24-pin power cables shouldnt be unplugged often enough for that to matter. I dont really have that big of a problem with them. The 3.0 headers.. yeah. And its not even really the headers i have issue with. Its the super thick cables Case manufactures use to connect to the ports that make it difficult to plug in. Afew board makers have started angling those headers 90 so they dont jut out... just in time for 3.2 headers to start coming in.. and doing the SAME THING!
@PizzaPowerXYZ
@PizzaPowerXYZ Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm gonna rip the motherboard in half with the amount of force needed to remove the 24 pin connector
@s.i.m.c.a
@s.i.m.c.a Жыл бұрын
aha ...just wait for 12v only revolution and another bump in motherboard prices lol
@jerelull9629
@jerelull9629 Жыл бұрын
My "favorites" were SCSI and parallel printer cable, followed by the 25-pin connector, ESPECIALLY the null-modem variant, which our company had a dedicated device to sort out the pins, swap things around, and see exactly what characters, if any, were being sent down the cables. SUCH fun 16 hours into installing a new system.
@michaeltorrisi7289
@michaeltorrisi7289 Жыл бұрын
But "scuzzy" is so much fun to say.
@maighstir3003
@maighstir3003 Жыл бұрын
And among the mini and micro USB ports there were not only the type-B's that most people know about. There were also type-A in both mini and micro variants. (Unlike type-B, though, there were no mini/micro type-A connectors defined in the spec for USB 3, just the full-size type-A.) I have a device that has a micro-A/B port (that can accept both micro-A and micro-B cables), but cannot actually use a micro-A cable to connect things like keyboards or USB storage (though an OTG adapter for micro-B works) - the device in question is a Sony Xperia Pro.
@Hail2Russia
@Hail2Russia Жыл бұрын
I spend a lot of time at work looking at different types of connectors. I work in live event production and the amount of cable termination solutions for similar/same results can be staggering. Would love to see more videos about cable connectors, specifically the ways they are terminated.
@EthanCGamer
@EthanCGamer Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of the same problems in the arcade industry, every manufacturer decides to use a different type of pin and socket connector. If I ever need to do wiring repair I have to keep a stock of 10+ different connector families, and a range of different sizes within those families.
@fergusoddjob
@fergusoddjob Жыл бұрын
@@EthanCGamer I cannot imagine the temptation just to solder everything.
@m1ndy9876
@m1ndy9876 Жыл бұрын
@@Shibathedog true1 far better. In all the ways.
@robertsneddon731
@robertsneddon731 Жыл бұрын
Even more fun is the use of identical connectors for different purposes -- the excellent 3-pin XLR connector plug and socket can be used to carry balanced AND unbalanced audio as well as DC power and a few other things. There's also coaxial cable BNC in 50-ohm and 75-ohm variants which you can cross-connect if you push hard enough. Ask me how I know this.
@PyroX792
@PyroX792 Жыл бұрын
Y'all could do an entire episode on printer cables through the years.
@janpokrzywinski
@janpokrzywinski Жыл бұрын
Now the only device that never comes bundled with a cable. Obscure USB-B that you definitely don't have a spare because it's only used by printers and midi devices 🤦‍♂
@marcokrueger3399
@marcokrueger3399 Жыл бұрын
@@janpokrzywinski To be fair, this is how it was meant to be in the beginning. I honestly see Type B a lot, not only printers, but scanners, external hard drives, external sound cards...
@matthewsosa7189
@matthewsosa7189 Жыл бұрын
Anthony Anthony Anthony. Say it with me. Anthony….
@idwithheld5213
@idwithheld5213 Жыл бұрын
@@janpokrzywinski USB B is not obscure. Still used to this day on external hard drives and monitors with USB hubs (modern monitors, like my Predator 4k144). USB B is one of the best designed connectors - only works in one orientation, and I've never had one get loose or fail, even when removed regularly like an external hard drive. I like that C is more universal, but B is far more robust.
@Ayrshore
@Ayrshore Жыл бұрын
All three of them? Since the mid 80s, only really been three. Appletalk, Centronics (parallel) and USB. Serial was always niche, and proprietory stuff went out the window with 8 bit home micros.
@ahmadabu-alzahab1162
@ahmadabu-alzahab1162 Жыл бұрын
We need a channel just for anthony
@wojtekpolska1013
@wojtekpolska1013 Жыл бұрын
I'd also mention IDE cables, like these very wide flat cables, usually light-grey, very annoying to work with, and try fit in the case. Tho when you see one, you almost feel nostalgic now lol After they were installed tho, man they had their charm, I believe this (+ small popularity of beige cases) are the main reason modern PC's look entirely different compared to the 90's
@kazehana7143
@kazehana7143 Жыл бұрын
ide was not a failed cable though. They were very successful for the time
@grantbrown4727
@grantbrown4727 Жыл бұрын
Anthony is a perfect for any content that requires a disappointed host his frustration is perfect
@jort93z
@jort93z Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why micro and mini hdmi exist, I always confuse them- I've not seen a single device where one of them would fit and the other would not.
@SirVellen
@SirVellen Жыл бұрын
action cameras
@killertruth186
@killertruth186 Жыл бұрын
Some tablets.
@Tommy50377
@Tommy50377 Жыл бұрын
Raspberry pi
@junkice6930
@junkice6930 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a small device engineer, but I have a feeling it has to do with durability and use case. The Micro connector is really nice when density is the primary concern (GoPro cameras or the Raspberry Pi), but as you go smaller in size you also sacrifice some longevity and reliability with the connector. Mini HDMI makes sense in the middle cases (like larger cameras for example) because the connector might have to be inserted and removed pretty frequently, but the device is too small for a full fat HDMI and larger than needed for just the Micro connector. But like I said, I’m not an engineer, but that’s how I’d justify the two separate connectors.
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb Жыл бұрын
@@FlameOnTheBeat I think every GTX 560 I've seen has had Mini HDMI. I dislike it because it falls out just from the weight of the cable being plugged into it.
@chompchompnomnom4256
@chompchompnomnom4256 Жыл бұрын
MOLEX isn't JUST cheap, the pins can take a bit of current as well as the bullet connectors. Also, Micro USB usually failed because of cheap dollar store / poundland cables which didn't clip in properly because of a shortcut used to make those little spike things on the outside.
@BrBill
@BrBill Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Dell, for a _really long time_, used a different power wiring scheme in their systems, so that if you used a standard power supply, its molex output would fry your mobo instantly on power-up.
@brianb.6356
@brianb.6356 Жыл бұрын
USB Type B, for a very simple reason: "Oh hey, this printer supports USB! I'll buy it!" [some time later] "What the hell? This isn't a USB port! I've never seen this port before!"
@Jason9637
@Jason9637 3 ай бұрын
Would you rather the cord be built in? Or use a micro-b cable? USB-B is uncommon, but it has its purpose and it does its job well. (But the printer should come with a cable included)
@crash.override
@crash.override 2 ай бұрын
The worst external port which is probably never going away... Network printers are better anyway; then it's just an Ethernet port.
@Greg1096
@Greg1096 2 ай бұрын
I work on industrial machinery and tons of PLC's still use usb-b for direct connection
@zachspiegel1577
@zachspiegel1577 Жыл бұрын
11 pm upload, no problem! Sleep can wait
@arulkumar998
@arulkumar998 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from India
@quackatit
@quackatit Жыл бұрын
Its 6 am here.
@diamondarrow4567
@diamondarrow4567 Жыл бұрын
@@arulkumar998 good morning sirs
@the.shivam_vlogs
@the.shivam_vlogs Жыл бұрын
It's 9:50am Here
@dewey404
@dewey404 Жыл бұрын
10:00pm
@camjohnson2004
@camjohnson2004 Жыл бұрын
Talking about the case front panel connectors i don't know why case manufacturers aren't doing standard layouts. Motherboard from MSI, ASUS, ASROCK and Gigabyte now all use the same 9 pin layout for the front panel switches and LED's, just look at any motherboard manual. So as to why cases are set with the 9 pin layout has to me buggered
@razaelll
@razaelll Жыл бұрын
Because there are still motherboards that have different layouts. It's a matter of compatibility. Obviously, nobody is stopping case manufacturers from having a simple extension in accessory bag that terminates into that standardised layout. But then it would somehow need to be keyed so end user doesn't plug it in the wrong way around.
@Wingedmechanic
@Wingedmechanic Жыл бұрын
While they all have keyed (1 pin less from 10) 9 pin connector on the board, all boards doesn't have them in the same order. So if you glue the wire end sockets together as per the order of pins in your current board, it may not be the same for your next board.
@gospodinpendula6250
@gospodinpendula6250 Жыл бұрын
Nzxt does.
@camjohnson2004
@camjohnson2004 Жыл бұрын
I challenge u to show me a board that does not use the 9 pin layout with the power led and power switch at the top row and the hdd led and reset switch at the bottom row. I have boards from 2009 with this layout. I deal with motherboards on a daily basis and they all have this layout now
@j0hnf_uk
@j0hnf_uk Жыл бұрын
I'd be nice if they had a standard all-encompassing plug to fit them all, too. Some proprietary desktops do, but not all.
@thebloxxer22
@thebloxxer22 Жыл бұрын
In my rig, it used to have the front fans powered from the 12V line from a Mate-n-Lok connector. I've since replaced the fans and have a Fan Controller in place of that adapter
@kazuyam1negishi
@kazuyam1negishi Жыл бұрын
Little tidbit : that "Micro-DVI" port seen at the end on that Apple laptop is actually Micro-VGA. Micro-DVI actually resembled mini DP a bit more, but it was actually comprised of 2 rows of pins with a little slit on the left(?) hand side. Funny story, I went on a goose chase for a Micro-DVI adapter for my old iMac, and a Best Buy associate ended up giving me a mini DP cable.
@gajbooks
@gajbooks Жыл бұрын
Sorry, incorrect, they showed Micro-DVI correctly. You're thinking of Mini-VGA, and the more square-ish version with the gap on the right instead, Mini-DVI.
@kazuyam1negishi
@kazuyam1negishi Жыл бұрын
Oop :p Guess they're that rare when a guy like me gets them messed up.
@xdragon2k
@xdragon2k Жыл бұрын
I remembered PS/2 connectors for your keyboard and mouse. They're not hot swappable. So if for some reason you got them unplugged, you have to reset the PC to get them back.
@jd_railfan
@jd_railfan Жыл бұрын
oh god i hated that! I definately remember those days, especially when it would take a rather long time to boot back into the operating system
@LaggyKar
@LaggyKar Жыл бұрын
Also, they have the same problem as USB where can't tell what orientation they're supposed to be in without looking closely. But worse, because they're round, so there is an infinite number of orientations to try, and only one works.
@elvinhaak
@elvinhaak Жыл бұрын
@@LaggyKar I thought it worked quite well by touch too. Just feel the little knob on them and slowly turn them untill that slides in, push further and they fit. Mostly stayed pretty well on the well made brands unless you tripped over the cables or had a cat who loved to play with them... later it was USB keyboard to the resque to shut down and then start again with the PS/2 only.
@burningfarts
@burningfarts Жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking PS/2 keyboard and mouse. My OG Microsoft keyboard from the late 2000's survived a rage quit, and my mouse wore out the clicker and scroll wheel I bought a sealed replacement from Ebay.
@D3nn1s
@D3nn1s Жыл бұрын
@@LaggyKar actually i find the round shape to be more practical, look at it for a sec and rotate until it fits in. Thats one hand movement unlike usb where you get it wrong, take your hand back and look at the connector and the socket, turn the connector around only to find out you were right the first time. That 3x moving your hand and doing unergonomic 180° turns
@Mrdardas99
@Mrdardas99 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has built over a thousand custom desktops I can say definitively that the internal USB3.0 header is the worst connector on modern PCs. Tiny pins, no retainer, and a very thick and heavy cable - the worst combination possible. We made it a point to ALWAYS secure the cable somewhere with zip ties (to the case or to the thick PSU cables nearby that were anchored themselves) because otherwise it will inevitably wobble just a tiny bit when the customers get it home and were pissed off the front ports don't work. I have had to deny RMA to many self appointed "techs" who weren't careful enough and bent the pins on the motherboard (physical damage automatically voids manufacturer warranty). The only good thing about it is that the female port can use a small passive pass-through USB2.0 cable so the front I/O can work on USB2.0 speeds even if the USB3.0 port is broken on the motherboard.
@KarryKarryKarry
@KarryKarryKarry Жыл бұрын
You have to zip tie everything to the case including the cpu cooler power cable and you route all cables on the backside of the motherboard mounting plate. Sounds like you wouldn’t get a passing grade from the QA in my company. The whole reason there’s a market for custom built pc’s is because you can build them BETTER than the dummies over at Dell or Lenovo.
@Mrdardas99
@Mrdardas99 Жыл бұрын
@@KarryKarryKarry You gather all that about my 1000+ builds from that comment? Just so you know, since I was the one who also had to fix them I can assure you everything was routed and secured properly so the customers never have to go back to me with any claims. That doesn't change the fact that the USB3.0 connector is badly designed and you constantly have to figure out how to secure it since every case and motherboard have slightly different layouts and none were designed to directly support this flimsy design. Further, this is really driven home when you see how many people are having connection issues and even damaging it when they do it themselves. USB2 never had those issues, as long as nobody tries to exert a lot of force to bend those thick pins it doesn't take a genius to connect it properly.
@superslash7254
@superslash7254 Жыл бұрын
@@KarryKarryKarry If you're using zipties inside a computer you've already failed QC. You should be using wire-safe flat velcro ties or something else that won't cause damage and crimping.
@3nertia
@3nertia Жыл бұрын
@@superslash7254 And that cost ten times as much ...
@UrielZeptim
@UrielZeptim Жыл бұрын
@@3nertia A few cents times 10 are still a few cents...so it shouldn't increase the price by more than a few dollars per unit IF you are a respectable company.
@garyseymour6319
@garyseymour6319 Жыл бұрын
Well, I thought this was going to be a boring ramble across a billion different connectors! So glad it wasn't! Informative and well researched, thank you.
@MrChezco1995
@MrChezco1995 Жыл бұрын
You forgot SATA Express! A connector that exist on boards but never used because no consumer drives that use such connector exist!
@MartysRandomStuff
@MartysRandomStuff Жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember that extra little square port next to the SATA ports, never did see anything for sale that used it. Also had a motherboard with a weird external SATA connector, 2 SATA ports with a Molex power port between them, so strange.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
Never new they existed. eSATA however... Now there was an ok idea on paper, but never adopted to be useful.
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re Жыл бұрын
linus has a video on these 8 years ago youtube GQEvOr55Pf8 and they partially evolved into m.2 so kinda still around
@MrChezco1995
@MrChezco1995 Жыл бұрын
@@gg-gn3re m.2 is actually a variant of u.2, which also exist on the same time SATA express does.
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re Жыл бұрын
@@MrChezco1995 didn't ask (also you are wrong/confused as to why they are similar)
@davidtipton514
@davidtipton514 Жыл бұрын
I lived through all of the pre-usb cables during the 80s and 90s - practically every device required its own cable/connector/board and there was a lot of competition for X-company to establish a "standard"...a real nightmare!
@elvinhaak
@elvinhaak Жыл бұрын
But you did get better cables then USB-C for example... lasted for decades and still do most of the times when the device is still working. And quite clear where to connect them to in most cases. Maybe 60 or so different cables/connectors but all dedicated for one thing. At least in most cases...
@kazehana7143
@kazehana7143 Жыл бұрын
serial ports were pretty standard after like 1994. edit lol lost a decade
@dparks256
@dparks256 Жыл бұрын
Remember when cell phone data slash charger cables and camera cables were all also mind boggling unique? My favorites were the insert clip charger with like 18 pins on cell phones.
@jeffzebert4982
@jeffzebert4982 3 ай бұрын
Ahh, yes... the PS/2 ports for the keyboard and mouse, the Parallel Port for the printer, Serial Port for an external modem, etc.
@cliffcorson4000
@cliffcorson4000 Жыл бұрын
Molex type connections are also used in many commercial equipment including grills, fryers, drink machines, ice cream machines, and other industrial kitchen equipment
@AutistCat
@AutistCat Жыл бұрын
You should make a video about legacy connectors that we remember fondly. How about coaxial ethernet? Remember those crazy T pieces and terminator pieces?
@aland7236
@aland7236 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the lightning port being added to this list.
@voivod6871
@voivod6871 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@RocksRealNice523
@RocksRealNice523 Жыл бұрын
@@voivod6871 Because even Apple uses Type-C, just not always
@SixDasher
@SixDasher Жыл бұрын
@@RocksRealNice523 Because they are forced by law in europe, thank god. Apple would rather keep selling you their proprietary and outdated lightning connectors, cause fukc standardization and modern technology. The ammount of e-junk they produced over the years is appalling.
@RocksRealNice523
@RocksRealNice523 Жыл бұрын
@@SixDasher Didn't they themselves decide to put Type-C on iPad Pro without outside intervention? That's what I was referring to.
@qqleq
@qqleq Жыл бұрын
Because of Apple putting a chip in it solely for making more money and for nothing else. Remember when clone cables worked well, until Apple make sure they didn't? Remember when a cable lasted longer than one month?
@SuprousOxide
@SuprousOxide Жыл бұрын
When talking about micro-usb ports breaking through wear and tear, it's funny you show a stock clip of someone plugging in a lightning connector...
@autumnvolume4181
@autumnvolume4181 Жыл бұрын
I've never had a Lightning OR micro USB cable or port fail on me, and I've had many many devices with each. I wonder if it's as prevalent an issue as some say, or I just got really lucky.
@ashrude1071
@ashrude1071 Жыл бұрын
@@autumnvolume4181 I've had cables fail on me. I haven't had any female ports fail on me but I've def seen them. It also depends on how long you use the device for. If only a few years you might not see much.
@D3nn1s
@D3nn1s Жыл бұрын
Any reason you guys chose micro a over mini/micro hdmi? Those were the frustrating ones. Also the old serial or parallel ports that were 10cm long would come to mind.
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Жыл бұрын
Micro HDMI is the worst in my opinion!
@CaseyDplays
@CaseyDplays Ай бұрын
in the 90s I had a computer that was "never obsolete" and I had a flatbed scanner plugged into the printer ports serial connection in the back and then daisy chained to the scanner was the actual printer. That was a fun setup. That was the "newer" setup replacing are old PC which had a dot matrix printer that had paper that loaded with holes on each side with perforations to remove them after printing. That one was really good for printing banners though
@pev_
@pev_ Жыл бұрын
All the mini-DIN type connectors (PS2, S-video, different AV combination ones) were a pain because there were many types according to number and arrangement of the pins while the outer ring-shaped shield remained the same diameter, and they were never quite strong enough with the alignment groove to give a good positive affirmation that you are inserting it in the correct rotational alignment. And I think the USB-A is also a bit of a failed design because it can be only inserted one way but the outer rectangular shield does not give a clue of the correct alignment, you have try it or look inside the shield. Well, at least it is not easy to "crush" any pins because there is the large block filling half of the connector :)
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
I don't have much trouble with mini-DIN connectors, and IMO a big part of that is because the plugs have nice flat edges to indicate the top. If the rotation isn't right you can generally tell and correct it.
@coolminer6242
@coolminer6242 Жыл бұрын
When you insert a USB type A you should look for the little USB icon. If that icon is facing up then that’s the correct orientation (at least on the majority of devices)
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 Жыл бұрын
@@coolminer6242 There's a lot of exceptions to that icon facing up, or left, or right. They don't even face the same direction on the two DELL PCs I have.
@ian_b
@ian_b Жыл бұрын
Also, DIN plugs of all kinds seem to have an insert made from putty that melts if you just switch on a soldering iron near it.
@pev_
@pev_ Жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 Well, today that might be true with PS2 (mouse/keyboard) that is about all that is left of the mini-DIN connector format, and even that is largely being replaced by USB. I was talking about "the olden days" :) when mini-DIN was used for many audio and/or video connections, and trust me those thin pins and uncertain alignment guides were not so nice. I don't actually remember breaking any, but it was very finicky.
@Dreancatger
@Dreancatger Жыл бұрын
1:23 I’ve been conditioned to expect a sponsor after this type of comment. I was so confused after this 😅
@THE_CARBON
@THE_CARBON 2 ай бұрын
Same
@martinandersson2199
@martinandersson2199 2 ай бұрын
I need to go watch old videos to see my favorite host
@carlosjaimesn1
@carlosjaimesn1 2 ай бұрын
What happened to him?
@carlosjaimesn1
@carlosjaimesn1 2 ай бұрын
What happened to him?
@lainamitclaire
@lainamitclaire Ай бұрын
@@carlosjaimesn1 She came out as a woman and some rather weak willed people have been pretty inarticulately mad about it.
@wackaboobooplays
@wackaboobooplays 3 ай бұрын
TOSLINK, just it’s on basically every motherboard I see, no one uses it, it’s proprietary and it doesn’t even run fast. It’s capped at 150 Mbps. And it’s really just a useless connector when usb works better
@pengowando8325
@pengowando8325 Жыл бұрын
The best connector ever? The 1/4'' headphone jack. Fat enough to never break or get bent out of shape. Connects with ANY rotational orientation. Seats with a reassuring tactile bump. Stays connected firmly unless pulled straight out. In regular use for 100+ years. Provides audiophile quality sound reproduction with good equipment. It's my one true love.
@jq747
@jq747 Жыл бұрын
Even Apple managed to screw up that one, by removing the classic 1/4" jack from its devices... because bilking Apple fanbois for $200 airpods makes much more sense than BYO earbuds.
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind Жыл бұрын
@@jq747 You're thinking about 1/8" (3.5mm)...
@dtgoodwin
@dtgoodwin Жыл бұрын
Except that they short pins together when being inserted or removed. However, most audio devices don’t mind it briefly.
@pengowando8325
@pengowando8325 Жыл бұрын
@@dtgoodwin Good point
@chrisransdell8110
@chrisransdell8110 Жыл бұрын
I think I'd nominate internal SCSI cables especially Ultra-Wide 68 pin cables. Delicate easy to bend pins, crinkly weird braided cables and all the SCSI specific rules about which connectors to use combined with potentially very long cables with 7 connectors were all demerits. Then there was termination which honestly I thought was a fairly simple concept to understand at least in a practical sense but there were forever all kinds of alternative theories about termination and lots of people who didn't understand it. SCSI cabling was a nightmare.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 Жыл бұрын
SCSI-3 is interface independent. So if you are running Linux: your SATA cables are SCSI.
@luce985
@luce985 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesphillips2285 I like G1k-00563KP-93FR connectors
@ericbosken3114
@ericbosken3114 3 ай бұрын
Anthony was the best. I miss his videos!
@josejuanandrade4439
@josejuanandrade4439 3 ай бұрын
Yeah... pretty sad we may never see him in the videos again... well we definitely won be seeing HIM.... maybe he will appear one day as his new persona.. Emily i think?
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange 2 ай бұрын
@@josejuanandrade4439 Emily has been in one or two videos, but it's been a while since I've seen her.
@TheBamaChad-W4CHD
@TheBamaChad-W4CHD Ай бұрын
We need you back on videos Emily! We misses you! Just come back when and if you feel good about doing so! We love ya either way!
@ecromancer
@ecromancer Жыл бұрын
Wi-Fi connector on desktop PCs, you either have the cheap antennas that screw in nicely but get in the way of every port around it, or the wire antenna that can easily twist the wire really bad. Not to mention if you have anything plugged in around that connector it is 10x harder to attach and you end up unplugging everything around it just to get it threaded.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 Жыл бұрын
My Board placed the Wi-Fi antennas on the very top, so that they don't get in the way of anything. Don't all manufacturers do this?
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
That's why I prefer USB dongles. Best of it, you can put them where you get the best connection and away from the EMI of the machine itself. Nothing better than throwing a 5m USB cable on, to get signal from a router 2 floors down. They even come with external, removable antennas. I don't even know who would need wifi on the motherboard. Gamers are in the know about the latency, content creators want a fast and stable connection to their NAS, and everyone who needs the flexibility of wireless would most likely use a machine that can be moved as well, like a laptop or tablet.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 Жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios Wi-Fi on the mainboard comes in handy when you can't discreetly route a LAN cable from your router to the PC. Many homes (at least on Europe) don't have Ethernet runs in the walls, so if your router and your PC is not in the same room, that's a problem. Sure, powerline Ethernet would be a better solution, but Wi-Fi is cheaper and easier. To me it came in handy once to diagnose the issue when my smartphone didn't get a Wi-Fi connection and if my PC mainboard hadn't happened to have built-in Wi-Fi, I wouldn't have had any other Wi-Fi capable device in my house to check, if Wi-Fi is working on the router
@ecromancer
@ecromancer Жыл бұрын
@@LRM12o8 No I owned two motherboards that had built in Wi-Fi and my ASRock Taichi had it right in between two USB ports above and below it. The USB ports below were not to much of an issue because they were slightly further away but the above USB were in the way of the antennas. My current ASUS Z690 Strix-A D-4 motherboard is in-between the audio and USB+LAN .
@ecromancer
@ecromancer Жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios My built in Wi-Fi card has built in Bluetooth connections that I use for controllers (Xbox and PS5) and my phone. It is useful for network diagnostic and has saved me in the past.
@Sercil00
@Sercil00 Жыл бұрын
Those IDE ribbon cables were so terrible. I remember the connector-bit falling apart and exposing all these needly-bits that you impale through the cable. The length was constantly a problem. They took too much force to plug in or take out and you could break the connector open.They were also dust traps. Just sucked all around. Good riddance.
@benjaminreynolds3659
@benjaminreynolds3659 Жыл бұрын
This was my first thought too. IDE ribbon cables were the worst.
@petermescher332
@petermescher332 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the non-boxed, non-keyed headers on cheap motherboards! Put the cable on backwards or off by a pin-pair and you'd fry your drive, motherboard, or both!
@Nbomber
@Nbomber Жыл бұрын
Master and slave jumper connectors causing extra headaches when using them.
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin Жыл бұрын
@@Nbomber You get everything plugged back in, and you did it backwards and nothing works. You put your palm to your face and say a few choice words.
@chunkyg6715
@chunkyg6715 Жыл бұрын
They also constrained airflow and only allowed 4 drives to be connected without an expansion card. I remember having 2 optical drives, a Zip drive and HDD connected before the system was maxed out. Also inserting or removing the 40 pin connector on a mounted device was super annoying given the cramped space. Glad these were replaced by the SATA connector.
@evoblade2000
@evoblade2000 Жыл бұрын
Dang, Anthony is taking humor classes. Good job, friend.
@justins.1283
@justins.1283 Жыл бұрын
Why are PS/2 connections still on motherboards? When was the last time anyone saw a mouse or keyboard with that connection? I haven't seen one in almost 14 years.
@VojtaJavora
@VojtaJavora Жыл бұрын
I have a PS/2 mouse right next to me, but to be fair, I bought it by accident.
@StandardUserFromEarth
@StandardUserFromEarth Жыл бұрын
Security and total reliability. Disabling usb ports can be useful for security purposes and its not reliant on as much software as usb is to work. Usually pointless for the avg person but they're pretty cool to have anyways.
@el_calorie2867
@el_calorie2867 Жыл бұрын
Because it take no space.
@LincolnRon
@LincolnRon Жыл бұрын
4:35 Front panel connectors definitely deserve the #1 spot instead of #2.
@tomppeli.
@tomppeli. Жыл бұрын
The fact that they still exist as is, is testament to how not-quite-annoying-enough the connectors are That or, more probably, no one has bothered with a better solution
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын
This list is a sham, USB-C is clearly the winner. It's only a cable standard, God only knows how much power is going to be flowing through the cable, a broken bit of hardware and you can easily fry a device with an improperly designed device.
@garethfairclough8715
@garethfairclough8715 Жыл бұрын
I never really found them too bad. Then again, I have really good eyes and tiny hands, so meh.
@LincolnRon
@LincolnRon Жыл бұрын
@@garethfairclough8715 I need to use my phone's camera and a jeweler's (22x) loupe, I'm legally blind in one eye, and with my glasses on I can see 20/200 (The big "E" on an eye chart.) with my good eye. (My glove size is extra-large.) I usually use locking tweezers (A soldering tool.) or surgical forceps to connect them. Manufacturers need to pick a pin/connector number (8, 12, 20, 32, or whatever.) and be done with it.
@bikedoc4145
@bikedoc4145 Жыл бұрын
1:39 I've suspected this strange romance for some time now, and I've even heard that Jake has his own room in Linus's new house 🤣
@StephenMatrese
@StephenMatrese Жыл бұрын
His wife is just happy not to hear his nerd ramblings anymore
@DJdoppIer
@DJdoppIer Жыл бұрын
How about the cursed "DMS-59" connector on some of the older Nvidia and ATI cards? Most of them were big and heavy adapters with a pair of either VGA or DVI connections on the other end (or sometimes one of each, WTF?). If you didn't insert it just right you could easily bend several of those stupidly fragile pins. Additionally, I think the mini HDMI ports on some of the Nvidia GT and GTX 600 / 700 cards deserves and honorable mention. That port was so close to the edge of the brackets that usually you couldn't even use it once it was in a computer case. They were also very easy to damage.
@ZeroSuitSamo
@ZeroSuitSamo Жыл бұрын
Having just brought an old computer back from the dead, I thought this was going to be about much older ones lol. 35 pin ribbon cables, controller ports, etc
@anonamouse5917
@anonamouse5917 Жыл бұрын
Molex wasn't so bad. You did have to be patient with it, but once connected properly you had a secure connection that could handle a lot of current.
@SilverSpoon_
@SilverSpoon_ Жыл бұрын
this, sure it could be a bit improved on the solidity of the connectors but otherwise they're good !
@llynellyn
@llynellyn Жыл бұрын
I'd go as far to say it was perfectly fine as long as both connectors were actually made to the spec by a decent company like Molex, AMP, Mod-Tap, etc. The bad reputation is almost exclusively down to devices/PSUs using poorly made/fitting Chinese connectors to save money.
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
@krzysztofczarnecki8238 Жыл бұрын
@@llynellyn The absolute worst failure mode of such crappy connector that I have encountered is it makinga contact good enough to work, but still pretty poor, so that when the specified current is drawn, the plastic of the male and female connectors fuses together. It still works, but good luck unplugging it.
@-morrow
@-morrow Жыл бұрын
@@krzysztofczarnecki8238 even worse is when the connector quality is so poor hat you can plug them in the WRONG way... rip hard drives, I'm still missing you
@xDownSetx
@xDownSetx Жыл бұрын
@@-morrow This was such a big issue with the 3.5" hotswap bays on the Cooler Master HAF-XB that they had to swap the Molex connector on the backplane to SATA power.
@ZelosXT
@ZelosXT Жыл бұрын
We really need to standardized those front panel connectors! If were doing a power revision now why not earmark that in ATX 3.0?
@TheXlen
@TheXlen Жыл бұрын
Don't you worry, Dell and HP will push for BTX instead 🤣
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
@@TheXlen BTX had many interesting changes, including a great improvement to thermal layout. But since they stopped at 115+W TDP and went down to 65-95W chips, it died quickly. Good that we haven't reached those levels of CPU power again, right /s
@TheXlen
@TheXlen Жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios BTX is an anti consumer form factor since it pretty much makes your motherboard and case bound to each other due to there being no presence in DIY market
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
@@TheXlen By that same metric ATX was an anti-consumer form factor since when it was created it had no presence in the DIY market. If BTX were actually adopted by more than one company it would be a practical choice.
@TheXlen
@TheXlen Жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 BTX exists for almost 20 years and literally only 2 mainstream companies have it adopted and both won't bother to standartise even between the two, so the only conclusion is that they are pretty much doing to be anti consumer
@Dhruv-qw7jf
@Dhruv-qw7jf Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video while using a phone with a MicroUSB port.
@blainx2852
@blainx2852 3 ай бұрын
Still got one of those micro usb cables with the clips and it is still holding on better than any of my normal micro usb cables, as well as even newer usb-c cables that most of the time just break inside the darn cable. My most hated connector gotta still be either the micro B ss which was just to wide, and well every usb connector with the word mini in it as they often just broke out of nowhere.
@yoshi-cs6ib
@yoshi-cs6ib Жыл бұрын
I feel like I am the only person who genuinely liked Micro USB and never had any issues with it.
@MGL83
@MGL83 Жыл бұрын
It's reputation was ruined by micro usb 3.0
@taududeblobber221
@taududeblobber221 Жыл бұрын
i like micro usb too. and mini usb. i absolutely hate usb-c, and i stick to devices that don't use it.
@taududeblobber221
@taududeblobber221 Жыл бұрын
@@MGL83 to me that's a portable hard drive cable, that's the only place i see it used.
@yoshi-cs6ib
@yoshi-cs6ib Жыл бұрын
@@taududeblobber221 what's the problem with C
@taududeblobber221
@taududeblobber221 Жыл бұрын
@@yoshi-cs6ib 1. it supports too many standards for it's own good. displays were never meant to be connected with usb. 2. it's a bad connector design. it looks like something apple would make. (bonus point: there are many non-compliant cables, while with mini-usb and micro-usb you can get cheap cables) 3. there already is mini-usb and micro-usb. we don't need a replacement, usb 2.0 speeds are good enough unless you are dealing with high-resolution video.
@uss_04
@uss_04 Жыл бұрын
90’s kids “Heeey that’s not a ‘Legacy connector’”
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 Жыл бұрын
I don't know man, us old heads were ready to move on once many of those connectors appeared. I'm glad with what we have now, minus lightning which is firewire all over again.
@antonioricardo1131
@antonioricardo1131 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed by The fact that micro-hdmi has not been absolutely hated in this video
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 Жыл бұрын
HEAR HEAR!
@anatolklops
@anatolklops 3 ай бұрын
The front panel connector on the motherboard has been this set of loose plugs and gold-plated pins for so long that even though it lacks a standard, it has become a standard itself. You know it will look like this, when you buy a new motherboard or case you know it will be there, when you look into any computer you know that this is what you can expect. If it were suddenly different, it would be something unexpected, something contrary to what you expected to find there.
@drewdane40
@drewdane40 Жыл бұрын
An honorable mention to DMS59. Looks like DVI to the casual observer, but it's actually used with a dual DVI adapter to split out to two monitors on low profile video cards. At least, that's the only place I've seen it used.
@kazehana7143
@kazehana7143 Жыл бұрын
I saw this on a few early kvms as well.
@supaschwamal
@supaschwamal Жыл бұрын
this!
@wh1st
@wh1st Жыл бұрын
I've seen it in some basic matrox adapters
@volactic8495
@volactic8495 Жыл бұрын
DMS59 wasn't that bad. Before HDMI or displayport became widespread, how else were you supposed to get two digital outputs on a low profile card?
@Zoomguy53
@Zoomguy53 Жыл бұрын
DMS-59. A video connector Dell liked to use as the only connector on GPUs that looked a lot like DVI. It required an adapter to use which would split out to two VGA or two DVI connectors and of course if you didn't have the adapter you'd be screwed.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng Жыл бұрын
And the DMS-59 pins would get easily bent out of alignment from users who clumsily plug them in incorrectly.
@hivaidz3250
@hivaidz3250 Жыл бұрын
Whats worse than DMS 59? DMS 60 which only a few MATROX brand GPUS ever used. And most of yall wont even know what matrox is.
@bill_clinton697
@bill_clinton697 Жыл бұрын
DMS-59 was a way to get dual DVI or VGA off a half slot GPU, so it did serve a purpose.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 Жыл бұрын
I love how y'all are using past tense like I don't have 6 or 7 of these in service as we speak.
@toddmoore9841
@toddmoore9841 Жыл бұрын
I hated those. The adapters were bulky enough and heavy enough to cause a video card to work its way out of the AGP slot if the card was not properly screwed down.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the hate for micro-USB. I've never had a single connector break. Not one in probably millions of insertions. I've had plenty wear down the lock tabs and fall out easily, but they still worked, and it was always on the cable end. No foul replacing a $3 cable after 3 years IMO.
@stutty1400
@stutty1400 Жыл бұрын
Not a computer port, but still a STUPID connector was the SCART .. oh my, what a true disaster!!
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 20 күн бұрын
You were lucky to have SCART US televisions only had composite or maybe S-video if you were lucky no TV in the US market ever had an RGB input of any kind. So while getting an RGB output from a game console or computer into a European TV was relatively easy you simply could not do that with a US television because it your options were limited to RF, Composite and S-video on high end models and that was all you got.
@emadkani9334
@emadkani9334 Жыл бұрын
The moment he said : You know what hasn't been lost though... .I thought he was going to tell us about a sponsor .
@kidsafe
@kidsafe Жыл бұрын
We could spend hours talking about SCSI chains, DB, HD, Centronics, etc. connectors.
@Skidd2
@Skidd2 Жыл бұрын
That face Anthony made for the thumbnail sold me on watching this.
@JC-zj4sl
@JC-zj4sl 28 күн бұрын
USB 3.0 Micro-B!!! In my many experiences, these NEVER seat properly. The THOUGHT of using one of these gives me anxiety, mostly because they were used for backup devices. I would pull apart 1000 molex connectors inside of a PC case in freezing cold temperatures, before I would ever rely on one of these again.
@jfwfreo
@jfwfreo 17 күн бұрын
I have a WD My Passport portable HDD that has a USB 3,0 Micro B connector on it and its never given me trouble.
@xVancha
@xVancha Жыл бұрын
Maybe I've just had some bad ones, but the 24-pin power connector. I've never had one go in smoothly, they've always felt slightly too big for the slot and had to be stuffed in unsatisfyingly. I get they need to be secure, but egads, there must be a better way.
@heyspookyboogie644
@heyspookyboogie644 Жыл бұрын
You’re not alone. Had the same issue with 24pins and usb-3 headers
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Жыл бұрын
24 Pin Connectors need to die, I don't care what the justification for keeping them is, literally everything else solidly clicks into place cleanly or goes in as you'd expect but I've had these exact problems even with good quality power supplies, there's literally hundreds of better ways.
@yensteel
@yensteel Жыл бұрын
Sometimes when the PC doesn't boot, I always suspect it's the 24 connector being improperly connected and had to pull it out and plug it back in to see if it worked. They should make all connectors 12 volts. Would make things much easier to manage with less pins.
@siontheodorus1501
@siontheodorus1501 Жыл бұрын
@SuperWhisk i mean it can, if the connectors are really tight and you didn't wiggle it i think it can rip the socket off the board
@scottdotjazzman
@scottdotjazzman Жыл бұрын
@@yensteel that's already a thing - the ATX12v standard
@Flint404
@Flint404 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy IDE is not a thing anymore. Those ribbon cables were hell to work with.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
Maybe so, but at least they were not dumb, as many others in this video. It would be if it was still used though.
@neuideas
@neuideas Жыл бұрын
IDE connectors were svelte, compared to 50-pin, 68-pin or 80-pin SCSI.
@RichardArkax
@RichardArkax 3 ай бұрын
surprised he didn't mention the firewire
@AB-wl5ny
@AB-wl5ny 2 ай бұрын
The first pic of the micro usb is a mini usb, those are really good, i had one i bought for my psp in 2008 and still was working perfectly with my dualshock 3 controller last year and don't think i took care of not damaging it, i even stepped on the connection several times.
@Razear
@Razear Жыл бұрын
Motherboard front panel connectors should all come with an external block that allow you to connect them externally from the case, or just revamped entirely to make them easier to install.
@NegativeROG
@NegativeROG Жыл бұрын
@MCSheep Your caps-lock is stuck.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Жыл бұрын
The main problem is that different motherboard manufacturers put those in different order. And there is also Dell that makes its own versions where the power button and power/hdd LEDs use a shared wire.
@newburypi
@newburypi Жыл бұрын
@@NegativeROG
@Ayymoss
@Ayymoss Жыл бұрын
@MCSheep I didn't read this due to the mix of casing.
@eh5806
@eh5806 Жыл бұрын
My current mobo (Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite) came with that. Simple connector block with fairly easy to read labels that you plug your case connectors into, and then the whole thing goes onto the mobo header. I liked it.
@acemasterx2514
@acemasterx2514 Жыл бұрын
I agree that molex connectors sometimes were hard to disconnect, but i have more than 20+ years messing with PCs and never saw one breaking; and in the same time i had problems with the sata power connectors going loose easy. Also, if you talk about the front panel connector, you should mention the front audio connector too.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
If it connects, it connects. And is easy to bend into shape. But a loose or cheaply manufactured Molex can be a pain.
@daemonbyte
@daemonbyte Жыл бұрын
I've broken sata but never molex
@eugenehvorostyanov2409
@eugenehvorostyanov2409 Жыл бұрын
This. You gotta be gentle with it - no jerking, massage it’s way in. If it doesn’t go look at pins, realign, and try again. In my heart it’s always will be above sata power connector.
@krz8888888
@krz8888888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, except very cheap knockoff fans and molex splitters who would have loose moving pins within the male collector but that was more of an annoyance
@rkirke1
@rkirke1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've been building/working with computers since the 90s and I've had way more problems with dodgy/cracked/misaligned SATA connectors than Molex. Yeah, the cheap Molex ones can be an inconvenience because of sloppy pin alignment and bad tolerances, but a cheap or damaged SATA power connector has the potential to outright snap the drive side connector off, or smoke the whole PSU/cable/drive...
@superguy7044
@superguy7044 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Anthony first blessed our screens. His superior technical knowledge drew us in. His charisma made us stay. We love you Anthony, you beautiful bastard
@rperm
@rperm Жыл бұрын
1:24 i was expecting him to cut to a sponsor when he said "you know what hasn't been lost though"
@MechaFenris
@MechaFenris Жыл бұрын
Those weird "dual" display cables from Dell... that split into two DVI connectors for the "Regular" monitor. Those things were prone to not work randomly, were VERY heavy on the connection in the back of the PC... and thousands of office IT people cursed your name if you said "my video's out" :)
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 Жыл бұрын
AKA DMS-59
@dualcoreontop
@dualcoreontop Жыл бұрын
they arent from dell, and that pc that you have probably has an amd graphics card in it with that port because amd used DMS-59 alot on their graphics cards. they use it for small form factor ones
@alexanderlee5180
@alexanderlee5180 Жыл бұрын
Anthony is such a good host now! He's hilarious when he's in his element!
@vangildermichael1767
@vangildermichael1767 Жыл бұрын
I can tell he doesn't (practice) this show before the (roll camera). It seems so fake if a message is rehearsed. His message comes through as a "real" conversation might (except this one is only "one way"). Cheerio for being "authentic".
@JSparrowist
@JSparrowist Жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂
@BlooMule
@BlooMule Жыл бұрын
It's been great watching him getting comfortable in front of the camera so his natural humor comes out.
@justinsbeaver9010
@justinsbeaver9010 Жыл бұрын
Everyone loves Anthony!
@temp50
@temp50 Жыл бұрын
A standard front panel connector would much be appreciated indeed!
@jjjacer
@jjjacer 3 ай бұрын
@1:12 looks like it had an option for the port, but the port that is shown with the connector is the ADB port for keyboard/mouse/joystick,
@uss_04
@uss_04 Жыл бұрын
Man growing up in the 90-2000’s was a heck of a connector transition.
@garcjr
@garcjr Жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to work in industrial automation and a lot of interfaces for PLCs still use a lot of those serial connectors especially RS232. As of recently it looks like they're all finally going to some industrial ethernet standard.
@lyianx
@lyianx Жыл бұрын
In the 90's and 2000s, PC tech moved FAST. Such major changes, innovations and ideas in such a short time. Many of them dying out as fast as they appeared. It was a wild west as companies were trying anything to see what stuck and to see what they could do with PC's. I kinda miss it honestly.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
I love that Anthony is really looking comfortable and seems to be having a lot of fun. I'm so glad.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 Жыл бұрын
He’s a good bean and a good host
@jonytube
@jonytube Жыл бұрын
He's such a cool guy. I love it when he hosts an episode
@juliobastosjb
@juliobastosjb Жыл бұрын
The many DVI layouts that just doesn't fit each other would be good to mention in a part 2.
@juvii7616
@juvii7616 Жыл бұрын
The port i really hated the most was the DMS-59 That was found on my Dell optiplex back then. I kept loosing the cable because I only one of them 😂
@elfedorausado
@elfedorausado Жыл бұрын
Funny thing. I've never had a micro-USB cable die because of delicate connectors. If anything, the few damaged ones I've had were because the cables would break at the point where they meet the enclosure for the connector (something that has happened to me with all kinds of cables). I still have around half a dozen lying around.
@jBurn_
@jBurn_ Жыл бұрын
The micro-USB charger of my galaxy SII (bought in 2012) is still going strong. I've also never had a failing micro-USB connector. Just clean the dust out of the every once in a while.
@Carewolf
@Carewolf Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the official cables never broke, ever.. But if you bought a cable in a store, you were likely to get unlicensed knock-offs, that could barely last 100 connect/disconnects
@gordonwelcher9598
@gordonwelcher9598 Жыл бұрын
Some micro usb connectors were made with inferior metal that did not keep it's shape and made poor contact or fell out. Chinesium.
@doomsayerxero
@doomsayerxero Жыл бұрын
Here's another one, COAX. The middle wire always bends, the screw never wants to start. It is always too tight or too loose and kills your fingers trying to tighten.
@Karhald
@Karhald Жыл бұрын
and the cross-threading!!! Oh god, the cross-threading!
@max2082
@max2082 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I use to bend and mess up the coax cable when switching between the cable box and the VCR. SOOO annoying. HDMI was like a godsend. My friend still has piles of the cables. It was cheap and worked for the most part. But had to be replaced every time we moved and then some.
@barongerhardt
@barongerhardt Жыл бұрын
As much as I agree with the type F connector hate, when it comes to connectors for making in the field custom length cabling, they are by far the easiest to deal with. RCA, BNC, RJ45 all super annoying and there is no chance for HDMI and many others.
@doodlecaboodle9298
@doodlecaboodle9298 Жыл бұрын
@@Karhald here's a tip. Spin it counterclockwise until you feel a click, then start turning clockwise.
@Karhald
@Karhald Жыл бұрын
@@doodlecaboodle9298 Well hell... that's so simple it's brilliant. I have two coax-type (similar connectors, but not exactly) cables connecting my wifi-antenna to my motherboard, I'll try that out. Cheers for the tip!
@Giganotti
@Giganotti Жыл бұрын
I could build a rope bridge with all the broken micro usb cables I've had.
@qazyman
@qazyman Жыл бұрын
There only a hand full of people on the planet that could make cables this interesting.
@JoFreddieRevDr
@JoFreddieRevDr Жыл бұрын
Video Suggestion: Test various phones to see how they cope with low a carrier signal. Linus's new house would be a perfect test ground if you turn off his signal booster. Is the myth true that apple phones have more of a problem with low signal strength than android ones do?
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII Жыл бұрын
not really a good test as you want to test with the same radio chip and see if the design of the antenna is a problem
@JoFreddieRevDr
@JoFreddieRevDr Жыл бұрын
@@IIGrayfoxII I want to know how well does phone (A) perform in comparison to phone (B) when it comes to reception in poor signal areas, so the comparison between different makes, and different chips is valid.
@ashrude1071
@ashrude1071 Жыл бұрын
low or no signal can also mean no battery. I expect this might become a thing with ltt labs where they can build a Faraday cage
@pitecusH
@pitecusH Жыл бұрын
In my experience with Apple and WiFi, iPhones tend to cling on to a very weak WiFi signal WAY too hard. There's only a tiny-tiny bit of signal, through which essentially NO DATA can come through, and the phone just refuses to switch to 4G. I understand it's probably to protect you from using up your data by accident, but man is it annoying if you have a crap router. (Which I did, untill I replaced it with a proper one.)
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII Жыл бұрын
@@JoFreddieRevDr There are so many variables. Not all telcos use the same frequencies for communication, phones have fallback modes where if they get get 4G reception, they will fall back to 3G and even 2G if the radio chip allows it and you have 2G services. Then you have location, you will have worse reception in the CBD than in a field One version of the iPhone will have worse or better than an older model Remember how apple said you're holding the phone wrong for anntenagate
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