Don't hate the player, hate the game. As someone with an old school lineage who's also made the transition to kickboxing/muay thai, I can definitely say that there are merits to both the old and the modern. That being said, I think more of the old school style I'm familiar with translates to full contact striking than the modern style. For that reason I think the electronic system has been detrimental to the sport, but that doesn't mean that version of the sport doesn't have its place. Like how fencing as a sport can still be enjoyed, but it should not be marketed as "sword fighting", since the electronic system has moved it away from that. Anyway, great video!

Great and thought provoking video! As an older guy who goes to TKD classes for the warm-up and stays for the self-defence, but uses sparring as distance management, footwork and reaction training - it is useful to understand how the sport has evolved and influences the art.

Your sense of humor is precious! 😂

I 100% agree with all points presented. I'll reiterate this... what we tend to want things to look like has little to do with what it actually looks like. I come from an old branch of the tkd tree (more like shotokan) - and originally thought Olympic tkd was compromised. But after really examining it... i see it has evolved for the better. Better training and standardized (like judo). These are good things. I do plan to get back into tkd - this time Olympic style - and will enjoy the gains learned over time. Martial arts evolve.

😂 love the outro. Great video. 👍

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You should post some videos of you performing your poomsae

I like when documentation surpasses believes. I was one of the ones that thought that TKD contained some taekkyon's heritage. Many people feel discomforted when they know that their favourite martial art isn't ancient, many of them had their birth around the 50s. This is not bad, because every technique is an evolution of a precedent style, in fact no one knows how aboriginal martial arts were. Everything evolves, and many modern martial arts are even better than their ancestors. I cannot mention how many ways to training or to perform a punch/kick were incorrect if not dangerous for the performer. Even in Nakayama's book "Dynamic Karate" the majority of the part of the foot and hand used to hit were wrong. Said so, if modernisation come to perfecting a technique, so be it. We should keep in account that in ancient time people were more weren't so attached to tradition when they could make their style more solid and complete. In my opinion, the myth of the traditional deadly art came more from the cinema than real life fighting legacy.

"If you want to be better at TKD then the awkward 14 year old you train with"......LOL! That was a great line and true. I'm definitely not better than those awkward 14 year olds, LOL.

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What are your thoughts on Kombat Taekwondo? Is it an organization you would affiliate with or something you would offer at your school since they are having their first US tournament in California in June? Great video as always.

ITF still looks quite like karate. Although the sparring is very similar to kickboxing

Interesting.

I feel pain in the knee when I do a roundhouse kick or stretch for split. What is the reason? what is the solution? ( Im beginner)

8:58 what were the kicks before that then? What is the single oldest?

The electronic system is safer and more fair. The old-school TKD was a better show, and had better stances.

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I started out as a hater, because this guy talked smack about ITF... But his humor, knowlege and sick jumping back kick, won me over.

You take a lot of effort to make these videos. Good job. You have a good sense of humor, but what do those suburban moms think about you? Stay loyal dude...don't let them tempt you. The round kick with the ball of the foot is only effective for precise targeting. I like to practice it on occasion and I believe it is a valid style of kicking, but I do agree the instep is better and more common sense. Lyoto Machida did a round kick to a guy's liver in an MMA match and forced a delay knockdown with the ball of his foot. Very effective. I will respectfully disagree with you about Taekwondo sport. Oldschool is FAR more entertaining, more similar to how one wold actually fight in a real fight. Similar to how boxing is a sport, but the rules make it more realistic to how you would fight in a real fight with the same techniques. Taekwondo kicks from the oldschool and the strategy with the feints is more similar to how you would want to use kicks and fakes in a fight. Boxing is full contact, yet it is scored by points with judges. There is no reason why Taekwondo cannot remain effectively scored. The issue is integrity VS corruption. Most sports have this battle with the people who run them. Taekwondo was always full of corrupt people and some of these guys got major kickbacks in cash for influencing the use of electronic scoring equipment. Taekwondo today is really for rich people and those who don't care about self defense and fighting. Foot fencing is a term that people, even in the late 90's used to disparage light contact point karate fighting. Like ISKA crap and whatever American Karate type gyms were around. They never did full contact and ended up foot fencing. Electronic scoring may be full contact, but with the similar scoring areas as point Karate and rules that do not allow grabbing or tripping, (unlike Japanese styles like SHotokan that are light contact but allow sweeps, trips, grabs followed with a strike), the sport ended up also becoming foot fencing. Yes we need more injuries and bad intentions in Taekwondo. This is why people flocked in masses to Muay Thai, BJJ, MMA because it is more real and aggressive in their sports. Taekwondo stopped being the world's most popular art once Dana White got the UFC built up and put on Fox Sports 1 and ESPN etc. Late 00's era. I loved using the cut kick in 90's sparring and back kicks. Believe it or not I used hookd kicks and side kicks too. I did it all. A lot of people did. Taekwondo really needs to get rid of the headgear and allow face punches and backfists etc. Just use a thicker Taekwondo glove. Another interesting historical point is that the rules for Taekwondo scoring when I competed were that everything was 1 point only no matter what. This made the sport way better than it is now. 1. Kick to the head scored. A brush of the foot or toes, or light touch did not though. The kick had to be somewhat hard, all though not as hard as the chest gear scoring required. 2. Kick to the chest gear must be within the color region. A colored stripe was in the middle of the chest gear. Anything outside of that did not score a point even if it hit just as hard. The kick had to make a trembling shock, or a very loud pop. Kicking the arm and popping did not score (most judges are not that blind to see this as you claim), the kick had to displace the body. A side kick had to displace the body or cause it to bend. Or a total stop in action like if the one person is kicking but a back kick shuts them down and forced their energy to stop that is considered a trembling shock. 3. a hard punch to the chest gear in the scoring region. A trembling shock. 4. How to win: score more points. Or knock the person out. Or make them quit and not want to fight or not walk back out into the ring in the next round, or the coach throws in the towel or does not make them go back. Also, injury if the referee deems it too dangerous to keep fighting and the injury was caused by legal techniques. Similar to blood too if the person was bleeding way too much. Blood is okay but not massive leaking. 5. If there is a tie, there is an extra round. If in this round they still tie, the one who performs the more difficult technique to score wins. Like if someone hits with a spin kick VS a guy who round kicked. The spin kick would win. There were a ton of great rules that made the sport better back then. It was good training for martial arts and self defense because it taught foot work, feinting, distance management, fighting spirit etc. And yes the 2,000 year old history is nonsense. I could tell you a lot of better sourced to read on this issue if you want. Just email me or whatever.

You paid $50 for that? Lol why? But yeah a few early Taekwondo kwan founders were Kung Fu experts as well as Karate experts. They did actually teach Chinese kung fu in their dojangs with Karate and some even knew Judo. Not everything has to be in the forms for it to be taekwondo. The forms are just a base for everything else and a training exercise. In the high black belt level forms there is an obvious Kung Fu influence and if you view kung fu forms from Choy Lee Fut, Baniquan and similar styles you can see that certain steps in the Taekwondo forms are similar movements. I even saw an eagle claw movement that looked like a taekwondo move.

I think that martial arts evolve as time passes, and this is necessary. We do not need to use the skills like they used to 50, 60 years ago, the forms of fighting changed over the years, and today, the most effective form of fighting is what we see on mma, so, all fighting styles need to evolve to what will be more accurate for the modern days and modern combat. The problem with Taekwondo is that it is a sport, not for actually fighting for self defense, and people just see that the olympic-style is the true form of taekwondo, but it is not. ITF allows punches to the head, Songahm taekwondo too, and even Kukkiwon now applies boxing strikes to it's style (you can see it on the Kukkiwon official site, on the composition guide). So, the lack of a more complete form of sparring, leaving only the WT form as official gets the wrong idea of Taekwondo being just a sport, also, the majority of the schools today only teaches based on WT sparring, and less-to-nothing of it's martial purposes (like said on the video, punches were removed because of injuries, something that could easily be fixed using boxing gloves). For what i understand and learned on these two years after studying intensively, i see that Taekwondo is sort of a "korean kickboxing", but everyone just keep using WT rules as it is more consolidated and usual, so, it is more simple and easy to teach when you maintain what is already stablished for the art.

It’s actually pronounced bak

Taekwondo needs fixing in general. Why not turn it into boxing but for kicks? No clinch or punches, just kicks scored on effectiveness like in Muay Thai?

😂 love the outro. Great video. 👍