The fact that the kid who won the game of thrones isn't one of the characters you talk about says a lot about the show 😂

Theres something almost poetic about season 8, the show runners fast tracked everything so they could go off and make a Star Wars movie despite HBO begging them not to do this. They did it anyway and everyone hated the season. Disney ended up not making their Star Wars movie partly because of the reaction season 8 got. They wanted it all and lost it all.

The best of Daenerys in the last two seasons was her outfits.

My biggest problem with Cersei is that it made no sense why anyone would follow her after season 5. She had no money, she had no legitimacy to the throne, everyone knew she was an idiot, King’s Landing was starving, and she was exposed by the walk of shame. It made no sense that a 2nd riot of King’s Landing didn’t happen.

Jamie sacrificing himself to protect Bran and kill the night king would have been great. Him going back to Cersei to do anything but kill her is also terrible.

"Best season ever?" Emilia Clarke

Arya killing the Night King is the moment I knew this show was beyond saving. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so empty watching a show as in that moment. Everything that followed after was just whatever to me

jaime killing the night king? for generations after, people spoke of his nickname "kingslayer" with pride instead of revulsion.

One of the weirdest decisions DnD made was to make it so that Jon didn’t want to rule. In the books, he wants that so bad. He was so close to accepting Stannis’ offer to legitimize him and become the Stark of Winterfell and the struggle between his personal desire to get the recognition he’s always wanted against the duty he has to the Wall and the Watch is so interesting.

There's no way it has been 5 years already!

The only good thing that came out of season 8 was the jokes and memes regarding the Starbucks cup left in one scene tbh.

Jaime saying that he does not care about the innocent people sounds like something you would come up with if someone tasks you with writing the most out of character line possible for this character. The equivalent would be something like Dany saying that she plans to enslave everyone (which she honestly came pretty close to), Jon wanting to make an alliance with the Night King in order to bring eternal night to Westeros or Arya saying that she wants to marry Joffrey, be his queen and have many children together.

It makes no sense for Littlefinger to give Sansa away to the Boltons. He wants their eventual defeat, so why give the object of his obsession away permanently?

I never thought about Jamie killing the Night King, but it's actually a great payoff

I love that all the clips from season 8 are so dark that even on a phone with the brightness cranked all the way up, they’re almost impossible to see. Such a reflection of the season overall

It still hurts after all these years. What a different world wouldve been if it had been a good ending. But as George writes, "But it did no good to brood on lost battles and roads not taken. That was a vice of old done men." - A Dance with Dragons, Epilogue

I gotta say, I LOVE the idea of Jaime being the one to kill the Night King in your mini-rewrite. Makes the "Kingslayer" nickname one hell of a foreshadowing and turns it into a true badge of honor.

Jaime’s arc finale is truly tragic writing. He had so much more potential and it all felt undone.

Jaime killing the Night King would have been the ultimate completion of his entire story. He saves Bran, he fully regains his honor, and his title of Kingslayer is now his greatest triumph instead of his greatest shame. Maybe even allowing for a new position in the King's guard where one member wears a golden hand and that member is meant to be the only one who can strike the king if he becomes corrupt or mad. But at the cost of their life

My theory always was thar after Cerse's 3 kids die, she and Jamie have another, a daughter. She dies during childbirth, bring truth to the prophecy that a younger, more beautiful queen will strike her down. She never had anything to fear, all of the pain she suffered and people she killed was for nothing.

when tyrion fed the dragons i was convinced , the show was gonna make him a secret targaryion

Sansa ending up as a Queen in the North makes 0 sense if Bran, her brother, becomes King of the other 6 Kingdoms. One Stark rules independently, another rules the others? I cannot see that being popular for too long. And if Bran uses his powers to foil any rebellious plots, then we get weird commentary on a police state - big brother Bran is watching! Also, Cersei was never betrothed to Rhaegar. Tywin promised her she would be but Aerys always denied him.

I don't remember where I saw it now, but I think my favourite theory/discussion as to why Arya's story felt so off was because they essentially gave her Lady Stoneheart's story instead. The theory went that Arya's storyline will culminate in seeing what the desire for revenge has done to her mother and choose to end her suffering. That she will give her mother the Gift of death, to put her own desire for revenge to bed. Lady Stoneheart slaughtering all the Freys is almost a certainty in the books, rather than it being Arya, so they just smushed the two storylines together and it ruined Arya as a result. Also, I have ALWAYS loved the Jaime-kills-the-Night-King theory. It is my favourite. And you saying that part about how it being one of Jon's risky plays that brought Jaime to Winterfell in the first place? Never thought of that before but that's just... chefs kiss. Jaime killing the Night King whilst protecting Bran would've been poetic cinema. Instead they massacred him.

What you've forgot to mention about Cersei is A) the Maggie the Frog prophecy also mentioned that she's to be killed through the hand of her "valonqar" - which she translates with "small brother" but is simply "younger brother". She believes that Tyrion, the physically "small" brother, who has also "killed" their mother, is going to kill her. That's why she hates him so much. But Jaime is also her younger brother, she was born before him, and it was a fan favourite theory that it means that Jaime is the one to kill Cersei. Unfortunately, in the show they butchered this plotline completely. B) in the show, she is portrayed to be saddened by the death of her baby with Robert, however in the books she admits to Ned that she willingly killed the baby she had with Robert because she simply didn't want to have a child with him. I think that is a very important point to mention. Because it shows her character.

Jaime shows up in the gods woods and confronts the Night King, "do you know what they call me?" Bam! Protects Bran and slays the Night King with Widows Wail the sword forged from the Starks ancestral blade then returns it to the Starks. People would sing songs of him forever.

Plot twist : the show's last great season was the fourth

Just a 4th option for Daenarys going mad I've been pondering. Playing into Drogon being the most difficult to control, in such a populated city, she loses control. Her choice is not burning the city to the ground, it is LETTING it be burned to the ground, doing nothing to stop it and accepting it as the only way.

Hearing you say that Jaime should have killed the Night King gave me chills!! That would have been amazing!!

Conleth Hill throwing the script will forever be a mood to season 8

Jaime is the most egregious to me, because like you explained in the video, his arc was basically complete. Him killing the Night King would’ve been great, but not necessary. But for him to completely 180 from having broken his Kingsguard oath in order to save millions of lives to then say “I never cared about the innocents” is a straight-up butchering of his character. He could have still gone back to Cersei. But the framing didn’t need to be “she’s hateful and so am I” - he could have simply told Brienne “she’s my sister. I love her,” and possibly even a call back to a quote he said early on in the series, “we don’t choose whom we love.” This makes Brienne’s weeping afterward more in character because it’s not that he’s leaving Brienne, but she’s heartbroken because she realizes Jaime can’t love her and never will. Honestly I think Jaime would be #1 most done dirty on my list.

Crazy that it's been 5 years. Felt like it took forever for the final season to come out. Now it feels like time's flying by.

There’s a great line in ASOS where Jaime says “that white cloak soiled me”. This line encompasses Jaime’s story.

I will always watch retrospectives of GoT. I rewatched it for the millionth time with my girlfriend for her first time and even she noticed a change in S5 onwards. We watched HotD this week and she is relieved there's some good fresh GoT content.

The "best" thing Danyerys did in the last season was double the sales of Starbucks overnight

Here’s a little peak behind the curtain: the night of the Game of Thrones finale, I was actually watching ‘The Phantom Menace’ for its 20th anniversary and I thought everyone was having a great time watching the GOT finale while I was miserable watching TPM. Turns out we were ALL miserable that night. (I don’t know what’s more unbelievable: ‘The Phantom Menace’ isn’t the most disappointing thing released on May 19th or that there were TWO giant franchise disappointments on the same day 20 years separated from one another!)

I think the final season as a whole is the prime example of something (outside of problematic writing, etc) falling under the weight of it's own complexities and ideas. Also probably why Martin is having issues with the final two books, because he's going to have squeeze everything left into those, but also make it clear what the story is truly about and saying. Also, the final season needed to spread out into a redone season 8, 9, and 10.

One notable reason why Arya's character fails is the exclusion of Lady Stoneheart, its clear that her and LSH will cross paths in the books (if they come out). Lady Stoneheart is the epitome of GRRM's Anti War and Anti Vengeance. GRRM writes vengeance in a raw and realistic manner, take Blood and Cheese from FaB for example. Lady Stoneheart's vengeance on the Freys in the books is going to be one of the most horrifically and unjust moments in the books and something that'll make BnC look like child's play in comparison. However because the show cut her out, they amalgamated the Frey vengeance plot point with her without the thematical point of anti-war/anti-vengeance in the books and when it came to S8, uh Oh Arya has nothing to do so they made her kill TNK to just give her something because they cut the Stoneheart plot out

I work in special effects and worked on Episode Three of Season 8. It was a brutal night shoot in a freezing quarry in northern Ireland, and even though I only filmed essentially half the episode for the six weeks I was there, I got to see the scale of this production up close. I had a great time with the cast and crew and wasn't aware at the time of how the rest of the season would pan out (I agree that it was poor) due to filming out of sequence and periodically intense scenes which take ages to shoot. My very first night shoot was filming Daenerys and Jura's last stand against the White Walkers. All the smoke swirling and blowing around them as they fight was my work as I stood on a large wind machine, blowing Artem smoke at them. It was freezing cold as the rotors sucked in already freezing air past me, chilling it almost to the point of pain! I was there when the Walkers first attack the front line, throwing in hands of soil as the characters fight the walkers (all the stuff flying past camera that looks like blood and guts in that fight scene is just plain old soil!) The best memory I have of this was sheltering in the far corner of the gigantic green screen quarry, huddled over a smoke machines as the Dothraki have their swords lit of fire. It was pitch black, about four am, with real wind and rain howling around the set, when out of the darkness the leading White Walkers in full makeup and costume slowly surrounded me as they prepared to come on for their next scene. I was half asleep when they did this and got the shock of my life when they slowly surrounded me, leaping up in fright! They all had a good laugh about that. Good memories but a shame the end result was so frustrating.

I love the fact that is has been half a decade later but the hate is still continue to the point that we still have more video paragraphs like this. Very well-deserved. Thank youuu

I firmly believe that a big reason why people (mistakenly) believe the final two seasons were good is Ramin Djawadi's music. His score for the final seasons of GoT represent some of his finest work.

Full honesty: when I watched the first season I was almost on cloud-9 on how great it was. Exellent writing, acting etc. And I litterally said "This is gonna break the TV-show syndrom. Every show that starts of great, always gets worse as the seasons keep going. But this will be different!!" And I've never been more wrong in my life

Sansa should've tried to manipulate Ramsay, Cersei told her in season 2 a way to manipulate a man is by using what's between your legs and she didn't even do that, D&D just had her get abused. Sansa didn't even figure out that Little Finger was manipulating her against Arya, she had to go ask Bran and Bran showed her the truth, but she was even ready to kill Arya, D&D said it happened in a deleted scene.

The suggestion for Jaimie is absolutely perfect. He should have killed the Night King and died while doing it. Would have made him an honorable hero, with an honorable end. This would have also benefited Cerise's arch because now she had truly lost everything and wanted to see everything burn.

21:58 not sure that "they were just following orders, so they should not face justice" is a good point at any given moment my man

cersei was never betrothed to rhaegar. it was proposed but aerys said no. so it never happened.

32:50 Let me quote Dumbledore here: "It is a curious thing, Harry, but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it. Those who, like you, have leadership thrust upon them, and take up the mantle because they must, and find to their own surprise that they wear it well." I like your suggestion here a lot.

these types of videos are the only way i can cope with the ending 🙏🙏 thank you for your service

I remember watching this entire show after it came out with my girlfriend. She had already finished the show by this point, and every now and then she would mention how bad S8 was, and how I would be impressed at just how downhill it would go. I thought to myself, it couldn't be that bad right? Everyone's just exaggerating right? Well... Please let House of the Dragon have a good final season.

what kills me the most is that, throughout the shows run, i would often restart the series to watch through. before each season, i'd rewatch all seasons leading up to it. but since the show has ended, i have no excitement to go back, because i know where it ends now. season 8 retroactively made every other season a little bit worse, which is wild.

I binge watched Game of Thrones about 2 months ago. Friends have warned me that the show gets worse towards the end and that the final two seasons are completely off the books. While keeping this in mind, I tried to be as objective and unbiased in order not to sway my judgement. And... yeah, D & D can go to hell. There were many moments in seasons 7 and 8 where I ranted out loud how stupid a specific plot point or a choice was. Something that I've not done once in the previous seasons. It's like all the major characters got downgraded by 80%.

Recently rewatched all 8 seasons with my 17 year-old daughter. She loved it for the most part but by the end she said it "basically became a marvel movie". And I think that sums the show up quite nicely.

5 years? Wow, seems like yesterday.

I’m okay with Jon not getting the Night King kill but…he should have fought him one on one with swords. The dragon fight was cool but we needed a more personal up close fight between them. If it appeared like he was gonna die again and then Arya swooped in that would have been amazing!

It would have been perfect if whilst Jamie killed the night king, he was weilding the valyrian steel sword Dark sister

Tyrion becoming hateful and poisoning Daenerys would make so much sense for both their characters. That would have made GOT peak. Becoming the bad guy didn't harm Walter White's popularity. And it would make sense for Tyrion to play the long game, which would make Varys turn against them. And seeing the destruction would make Jon choose the easier life at the Wall. Then, this would all make sense.

I love hearing people dog on the final seasons. An hour of it sounds just what I need today. ❤ Edit: Jamie would be number one on my list. With one sentence they ruined an entire characters redemption. With ONE SENTENCE 😖

Great video, agree with all points. Tho I want to add one thing in dany section, her inner conflict is very similar to jon's one that of wants vs duty. using fire is a way to get it. In book1: all she wants is to go "home" , have a family, live a peaceful & comfortable life as a simple girl & not a item to be sold, then she connects the idea of "home" with westroes(saw a thousand red doors). Play's her Duty as khaleesi book2 : dodging all wrong doors/illusions/temptations to meet undyings one & asking what's the truth. in book 3: she calls slaves as her children not only cuz she believes she is infertile but she has a whole to be filled with love,care,affection & be connected with others at intimate level which she didn't had. Also she for similar reason tries to Self-love. she could have gone straight to westroes yet instead of flying off ,chooses to rule for her "Duty". Book 5 : puts aside her desire again for duty. i also don't think she would burn KL willingly, rather either for coming to terms with her father's legacy, or play with perception against young griff. Making anyone in story "mad" is lazy & in direct conflict with what martin says how he doesn't like Dark lord villians who do evil just cuz or he likes to write abt human heart in-conflict plus missing the whole point of "OTHERS" , be it cersei/dany/bran.

Never thought of it, but Jaimie killing the Night King would indeed be an amazing conclusion.

I miss game of thrones so bad. Lets hope Hotd continues as good as s1

Pretty insane that this show was everywhere within pop culture and simply vanished within a 6 month period due to how bad it ended.

My God, your build-up to the possibility of Jamie killing the Night King had me mentally cheering! Also, I agree with everything you've said, and a lot of it really put into words what I've never been able to articulate myself. Great stuff.

Ah Game of Thrones its like setting up a role playing game where all the right things where done in the beginning then the torch was passed to a clueless player who chose the worst decisions late game. Knowing how bad the ending is gives me no reason to rewatch it. Its that awful

And still no Winds of Winter 😢

I had managed to get over this heartbreak. Thank you for reminding me...

I agree with the corrosive themes of vengeance, but to say people who are “just following orders” are implied as innocent… well we had a pretty big trial about that in Nuremberg. They’re guilty by both our’s and Westeros standards

I think one of the reasons they didnt adapt Tyrion's arc was becasue he was a very beloved character, in the series he is a grey character but his charm, inteligence and personality helps a lot for him to be liked by the viewer and a lot of the things that makes him bad were cut off the show, like the fact that he wasnt particularly displeased by his marriage with Sansa in the books, in the show they gave him a good friendly relationship with Sansa for a little bit, before the red wedding, the show has a lighter version of Tyrion and some of thebthings he does and says after what happend with Jaime and Tywin are very awful and i think they didnt whant this beloved character to loose popularity 🤷 but that made his charachter an empty shell

Jaime and Daenerys's endings broke my heart. I agree with Nikolai Coster-Waldau: Jaime and Brienne are on Tarth with like five kids living out their lives in peace.

Show watchers think Season 8 ruined the show. Book readers know it had been of the rails since Season 5

Final season was the worst thing that happened in tv history

I will never get tired of these videos

The writing was on the wall from season 5, but a lot of fans just refused to see it. I am glad you highlighted the difference from the early and latter seasons, too many people tend to focus on season 8 alone, as if that was the only problematic season. Thank you again!

David Benioff and d.b. weiss Are we so out of touch? ... No it's the fans who are wrong 😂

Whatever your opinion on the ending is, I think most of us can agree that we miss Game of Thrones.

I miss GoT and I will never forgive D&D for ruining it. At Least somehow we know how HOTD ends.

The prospect of Jaime Lannister being the NIGHT KING SLAYER blew my mind. What a scene it could have been.

I think the way they could have concluded Dany's character arc without assassinating her character was to just have her simply *intend* to burn just the part of the city where the Lannister forces are concentrated, but in doing so ignites one of the undiscovered caches of wildfire left by Aerys, which then ignites other nearby caches and starts a chain reaction that wipes out the city like he intended. Horrified, she realizes that she will never effectively rule the people of Westeros because they will always hate her and see her as a monster that must be destroyed. From there...things could go a multitude of ways. She could abdicate her claim in Jon's favor and go into self-imposed exile, she could set up the royal elective before returning to Essos and rule the free cities, she could order Jon to kill her so that he could ascend to be the heroic king who slew the mad queen, etc. And this is speaking as someone who didn't even particularly *like* Daenerys.

I am of the belief that cutting out Aegon VI/Young Griff led to the Mad Queen twist, GoT was built on the grey complex depiction of war and conflicts, this was changed in season 6 where it became much clear who the good and bad guys where (e.g Jon v Ramsey, North v Night King), so for the final season when it came to the last conflict between Dany and Cersei, morally, it was too one sided, Dany was, good, Cersei bad leading them to cook up the mad queen twist last minute in an attempt to go back to that 'grey' depiction of war. Unfortunately it doesn't work, had they included Aegon VI and instead of Cersei V dany, it was Aegon V Dany, the conflict would've been grey because you understand where both sides are coming from, I do feel like had they gone with that storyline instead there would be no need to transform dany into a mad queen

I still say to this day, GoT sould have made way mode sense by ending with the White Walkers winning because the seven kingoms were not united because of Cercei! That would have subverted all expectations and it would have drove home that when humankind are not united against a natural threat, we are all doomed. But nope, it was rushed for "shock" factor. This last season is the reason GRR Martin is taking his time writing the last two books. After seeing the backlash with Bran becoming King, I believe George is polishing things up so the ending is well earned.

rarely do I find a KZfaqr that does such a deep character analyses while also offering viable solutions to their development nice video, mate

The writing for Daenerys in season 8 could be summed up by one of my favorite quotes from the Godfather: "Look at how they massacred my girl".

Jon not killing the night king is fucking stupid of all the characters ( in this video )he is the one who fought the walkers he has lost the most trying to stop them for starters his life for him to have killed the night king would of been the ultimate validation of his story and of him

I just want to say, this made me frustrated all over again, then you really reminded my of why l loved the books so much and I agree 10000% with every analysis you make. I think the way you resolve the story archs feels so narratively true to the characters and to GRRM. You have got yourself a new subscriber!

In regards to John killing the Night King, there was a whole prophecy in the books leading to it being him.

I started the ASOIAF series in 2006. Us book “purists” saw the show going wildly off the rails during season 5, when George R R Martin stopped writing and consulting on the show and D&D took complete creative control. We were told by the massive fandom that we were stupid for our complaints and warnings that the showrunners didn’t have any idea WTF they were doing. Watching the culmination of their stupidity that was season 8 and the disbelief reactions from the fandom was one of the most entertaining things I ever witnessed. The fandom quite literally imploded.

I used to believe this was the greatest show. After the final season, I wouldn’t recommend anyone waste their time. It’s crazy because how can one season change my mind as to years of incredible content?? Idk honestly but I have not gone back to watch any of the show again and have no interest in anything they do in the future.

GOT and all media took a massive nosedive after 2015. I wonder why…

I can’t think of any characters that weren’t trash. Maybe secondary charters like Jorah Mormont didn’t get the worst ending, but all of the main characters were terrible. We kept hearing everyone tell us how smart Sansa was, ..”the smartest person I know”, claimed Arya, but we didn’t see any proof of it. Making instant enemies out of a Queen that could destroy Winterfell in five minutes wasn’t the smartest thing I can think of. Jon Snow lost all agency and was limited to two lines, “…she’s ma Queen..”. And “…I don’t want it..”. Tyrion, Varys and Little Finger were turned into morons. Many great leaders become leader because it is needed and they’re right for th Elon, not because they want it. That’s why we call it serving. The three smartest characters from the first seasons became the dumbest. Tyrion became the king of one liner eunuch jokes. Little finger was beaten in a trial that was a joke. LF was smart enough to put Sansa on trial by asking her when was she lying, when she told Royce that her aunt committed suicide or now when she claims that he pushed her out the moon door? Tyrion nor Varys saw a problem with putting the women and children in a crypt when their enemy could raise the dead? Jaime tells Brandon that he isn’t the same man as the one who pushed him, only to return to Cersei, proving that he is the same man as the one who pushed him out of the tower window. Tyrion even allows Sansa to use him. I don’t see that as Sansa being smart , but rather Tyrion being stupid. Cersei just became stupid also, doing nothing but stand at the window sipping wine. Cersei had no plan at all, other than hiring sell-swords, but that’s not the Cersei of the earlier seasons. She was always plotting and quick at changing up her strategy if the situation changes. She plotted to have Sir Gregor defend her honor in single battle, but when she was outplayed by the Head Sparrow, having Tommen outlaw the tradition, she came up with a new plan. After blowing up the Sept, there was no blowback on Cersei for destroying a religion and was every sparrow in the Sept? It just suddenly went away. Arya just became a cartoon character. Like some superhero. We never saw her train with sword, but somehow she can fight Brienne to a draw with a much smaller sword. I think D&D forgot that Needle wasn’t Valyrian steel. Jon had it made of castle forge steel, so Brienne’s practice sword would have cut Needle in half on the first swing. She never used any faces again after the Freys. That was the one skill we did see her train at. It should have been Arya kill Cersei using a Jaime’s face. Everyone thought Jaime was riding south to kill Cersei anyway and it would have been a big shock to see a Jaime kill Cersei, only to have him rip off his face to Arya. Then we know that she also killed Jaime on the way there. Well, then there’s Daenerys…. I really don’t have to say much there. She turns complete psycho because Jon won’t sleep with her anymore, killing more innocent people than did Joffrey, Walder Frey, Tywin Lannister or The Mountain, becoming the worst antagonist of the series.

I have an idea for Danni's breaking point and it actually fits perfectly into the show with a small end tweak. She still has 2 dragons (delete that riduculas 360 no scope from behind a cliff) and they have taken the first part of the city and are waiting for the bells to ring for surrender (which is also stupid "i've never known the bells to mean surrender" but lets go with it). She and her 2 dragons are sitting on the wall like she is in the show and rather than surrender, a bolt from a scorpain she missed is fired and takes out her other dragon. So now we have yet again a moment of her waiting to do the right thing but gets harshly punished for it. At this point, just like in the show, Cersie has filled the inner part of the red keep with civilians for protection. Everyone knows she is doing this for that reason and thats why they earlier decided they cant just fly the dragons at the red keep and have to be careful going about it. But with her dragon getting killed rather than them surrendering its the final straw and she flys to the red keep. Not burning the entire city to the ground but she uses her dragon to destroy the red keep (or parts of it) and it comes crumbling down killing all of the mass civilians in there. That way everyone see's she has gone too far as they could have won without killing all those people but she lost it and to get to 1 person she irrationally sacrifies all those innocents. EDIT: Or maybe, to add to it a bit. That missed scorpian was hidden at the red keep as a last bit of defence. So she actualy goes to destroy that but out of rage continues with doing more to the red keep.

I would add that - aside from a lack of episodes that would have been able to set up some of the more controversial arc endings - the writers lost the truly clever and brilliant aspects of Balish and Tyrion. Their lack of subterfuge and ability to manipulate people was lost especially the last two seasons.

Another main team for Arya is her identity, she spends all of the series pretending to be someone else each time loosing more and more of her identity as a Stark and as the girl her family knew, in the books Arya has a lot of thoughts about this, in the first seasons of the series it is not as prevalent but the teams are there but in the final seasons they put more atention on making her a "badass" and her charachter wasnt good anymore without mentioninig all the things that makes her habilities so ridiculous if you whatch her progress in the series

It’s WILD to me how the writers didn’t even realize they turned both Sansa and Arya into CERSEI LANNISTER. Cersei exploded the Sept with wildfire, killing all in it for revenge, which D&D portrayed as an evil act. Then Arya kills off several people at once too for revenge just like Cersei did and it’s framed as heroic! As for Sansa…Cersei tortures young Sansa in the earlier seasons. When the only thing Sansa was guilty of was being Ned Stark’s daughter. Then in season 8, Sansa argued with Jon and demanded that literal CHILDREN (including Ned Umber) be punished just because of who they were related to. These acts on their own would be okay if Sansa and Arya later faced consequences for their vengeance or they later realized what they’ve become D&D framed their actions as altruistic. It turns out that Sansa actually DID learn from Cersei after all! Cersei would be so proud of these little psychopaths. Good job, D&D.

Always thought Jon's such easy refusal of power was precisely what made him so uninteresting at times, especially facing some other characters (Cersei queen) that are so intelligently written (by Martin first and foremost). Your theory that he could have at least shown some interest in overpowering Dany to take the crown would have been so interesting.

Varys was done dirty by S8 and by being ignored in this video.

Man, I really hope George finishes the books. That way I can watch seasons 1-5ish, then switch to the books for closure lmao

So many people binged nostalgic shows during lockdown such as gossip girl, sherlock, lost, massively loved shows. I never heard GOT leave anyone's mouth during that time.

i almost didn't click because i thought i'd seen all anyone had to say on the subject, but your analysis was really refreshing and insightful. it really made me think about what a good conclusion could've been for these characters.

Ooo excited for this one!

I stop all my rewatches at the finale of Season 6 and imagine my own ending… that’s the only way I can enjoy my favorite show of all time.

It still physically hurts 5 years later.

Hearing you talk about these characters - what they were supposed to be and what they became in the show - it's so painful and makes me so sad thinking about what was taken from us :(