Eh not a fair comparison. Plus it took a goddess to defeat him

@Clark Kent (Earth-167) they aged iris then again iris is not a meta

even the suit is better

Ikr? He got defeated by lightning too which he is able to catch. Eric Wallace doesn't understand what made the Flash season 1 and 2 so great, he doesn't understand their characters and the worst part is he just REFUSES to direct a fight scene that involves actual PUNCHING lmfao.

TRUTH ALERT

Speed is his version of crack.

His look of "and who is this?"

Let’s not forget how hellbent he was on taking the Barry’s speed EDIT: I’m referring to Season 2 Barry, because Zoom seeing Barry and Nora, 2 speedsters would mean he could try to steal more speed

Hahaha

Lol

Agreed. At that point it wasn't even obsession, it was psychosis/mania. He had a look only a predator would have. This is why I miss Zoom...

Cabolt44 Sucks the scene sucked

Teddy is an amazing actor. I miss him on the Flash.

teddy is a bad actor

@@Anonymous-kn6oq L

I think it was cut

Sr. Eobard Thawne same, it was too short

Zoom was a worthwhile villain, until he took off the mask and revealed it was Sears. Then they made him much less threatening.

Yeah I agree. I wanted more out of him.

Knightfall182 I think you’re looking at it wrong. It’s true, Zoom was creepy from the begging. Before we knew who he was he was this monster with demonic claws and a voics that wasnt human. No actor could’ve matched zoom on the outside. Seeing Teddy play zoom was great because we knew teddy as this kind hero and when he was zoom he took a complete 180, if you go back and watch some scenes you’ll see he pulled it off pretty well. In his scenes he always seemed creepy and like something was really messed up with him, I think teddy pulled it off

Shii...probably did 🤣

@@zShadowx07 they ain’t plan that far ahead

@@PhillyDreamTeam90 shiiii

@@zShadowx07 SHIIIIIIIIIII

@@seekpenance *SHIIIIIIIIIIII*

Nova I was screaming when zoom caught up to Barry and Nora and he grabbed Barry from the back

He did notice that he wants Nora speed so he can get faster but XS likes her speed zoom know who that guy is he still the some Barry Allen but he a lot faster than zoom savitar and reverse flash flash a lot faster then him so that he couldn’t catch up so zoom knows too much so he get to go again.

Ayanle Volg can you speak English please?

Void AxeL yeah so zoom notice it’s another speedster so zoom can take XS speed so he can get faster

Ayanle Volg that makes more sense. But wouldn’t zoom be confused about how “barry” has his speed. Because he didn’t know he time traveled back until that time wraith.

😂 lol

ahahaha

😂😂

A G A I N

That man a creep u saw the way he was looking at nora like free speed and she's hot gimme!

To be fair he was sorta focused in the finale unlike in this scene

@@year7high711 at least the cgi and suit was still good in this scene

Fr what happened to the mask

Isn't the lighting effects reusable in scenes? The series finale must've had such a low budget despite using the same cameras the past 10 years.

@@OongusBoongus That's the one thing I don't get since both in 5x08 and 9x13, Teddy Sears is behind the mask this time, unlike in S2 where it was Ryan Handley (who was both Zoom and Godspeed in S5 and S6) behind the mask.

Flash and xs werent wearing suits, no suit = safe speedcap limited to mach 2

Not exactly they can't go as fast when they're in normal clothes due to the air resistance, unless they want to become barbeque... Also zoom was on speedster steroids and had just absorbed past Barry's speed a few minute prior

@@MoonlitPhoenix0 that's bs. Flash is the most poorly written character

@@farazahmed7 💀 you clearly haven't looked at any of the legends of tomorrow seasons if you think FLASH is the worst written character Also no it's not bullshit, these things have been proven in the show, literally I nthe first season it's clearified that he can't run as fast without his suit due both air resistance and the fact his clothes would literally catch on fire And Zoom actually was on speedforce steroids and did in fact get a powerboost from stealing past Barry's speed... That's literally how it works, steal a speedsters speed and you become a faster speedster...

@@farazahmed7 first, he had to slow down to be with Nora, 2nd he was going slower to get the time wraith to get zoom, 3rd he literally can’t go faster cuz he will burn, 4th zoom literally just got Barry’s speed so he was much much faster

I saw the look on his face he is like GIMME

You know what's better than busting a speedforce nut? Busting two speedforce nuts.

Image zoom as is and Nora and Barry as marvel lol

Zoom was the best!

He always wanted to be the best in any universe

Saaaaaame.

Yeah and the CW forgot how to write good episodes so we no longer get that

Back to the Future theme song killed me. Lol

RF's "vibrating" villain theme still gives me goosebumps .

HoeItz Cheesy Didn't I just see you?

Same

Same

@@shadowonyx9988 For real!!!!

hes coming back flash season 9 it teased us in flash season 8 episode 15

@@gabthegamer300 the newspaper came from the past not the future

Go to sleep

@@exxooss Cope

@@exxooss Nah. Episode 10 was good. The rest wasn’t.

@@nazomius7033 Episode 10 was good. The rest wasn’t really.

His Mask looks better here😭

Bruce Dee so much ruined potential and broken promises in this episode

Reverse Zoom...The ultimate Team Up

AeternaQueen ikr

RF would probably try to team up but zoom would just want his speed

Zoom would fuck up RF, take his speed. Doesn't zoom kill RF in Legends?

Dasan Right?! Sometimes they still do!

To be fair that was still very fresh in their minds and were still dealing with that revelation.

Dasan, you know what else is stupid, not bringing back past Thawne even though they’re supposed to be fighting “for centuries”.

Jason Nguyen Now THAT is a problem, so far they've covered Thawne in his entire future, but not him in the beginning. I think it really depends on Matt Letscher's availability.

@@96megatron Calling him Welles didn't bug me, acting like he was Harry's doppleganger and no trusting him because of Thawne did.

maybe in the 200th episode

??? That’s like 5 seasons away...

@@clonewarssaved___3899 maybe

@@clonewarssaved___3899 Well that's one time remnant of Zoom. He has multiple others from other timelines so he may show up in the future.

unknown person, well. We do have to get to 2024 so..

poker8100 that's what I'm saying. Unless he returns somehow

Yes thats what i thought, Zoom was defeated early

The only thing that I think changed was the race between Barry and Zoom.

Matt Banner Or maybe that zoom was just a time remnant from the start?

Since Zoom died early, that means he never kills Henry Allen

0:45 Time Wraith :”Get your ass back there”

Lindon Dumais yeah but that goofy ass run

Hydra Hamad it honestly look like a chubby kid is running towards food. It’s just the way his arms go so high and his body doesn’t move as much just makes it so funny.

Omg i would literately laugh scared Because I’d probably positively have a heart attack....

“Bend tf over bitch”

Not enough Savitar either. I mean there was something to do but they just... didn't, but they still got a chance to catch up for Zoom.

@@gabgame300 How? 😬

He at least got a new scene. All we got is old footage of Savitar's death.

Yeah zoom should've had like half of the episode or at least some savitar not only thawone

@@gabgame300 Savitar was lame.

Same

Me too

Even DeVoe despite it being just for a second.

Mal-El way to go 100th episode & 100 likes 💯😎

I was so hyped I even wore my reverse flash suit. I was incredibly disappointed to say the least

Lol that would be hilarious

Zoom: Sorry i'm late. Was dealing with your future self. You know? Typical time travel stuff. Barry: I can relate. Went back in time a few days ago to cheat at this race to begin with. Zoom: What the hell? Only i can cheat.

Season 2 cailin and e2 killer frost: hey shouldn't zoom be here to like feed us or something?

Zoom: Uh, you guys always complain. Can't you just be satisfied off of speed like me?

Didnt he create a remnant and kill himself right b4 that, zoom was notorious for that

Nice theory that I would love to see.

yessir. Hopefully

nopo, the time wrath simpely placed him back in the timeline. But zoom was pretty smart, so maybe he escaped from it and is now running true time like reverse flash in legends

Your comment is three years ago. And I'm from the future....and I'm here to till you that savatar and zoom never came back again escapet when Barry had an halosnathion in season 6 and saw savatar and zoom and the r . Flash but only for seconds

@@salahalzawy9545 I’m from the future .

It’s the speed drug he used

​@JaydenCardens it's the frequency of his body reaching those high speeds

instead we got a freeware version with a shitty mask

The Real OG oh...

How u know

Doesn’t the speed force aura thing prevent that?

yeah I get what you mean and if barry and nora had their suit, zoom would be I don't 1, 2, or 3 miles away from them. And zoom would not chase them into the time traveling.

Why would they care bout a sweater and shoes over their life. Very bad decision making.

Yeah , ig.

Cappppppppp

@@Imposter12 no that’s actually confirmed true

Right she was a Slowpoke..season 2 zoom almost caught up to her

Ooooor,if they run too fast their clothes burn off,unless thats not a thing anymore

TOKENATOR zoom didn’t get tackled and land somewhere though lol did you forget what happens when a time wraith catches someone? It doesn’t just toss them somewhere lmao it kills them and in zooms case it turned him into the black flash

Oh no they did kill zoom too early?

I think that specific time wraith threw zoom back to his normal time line

Eobard Thawne it couldn’t have killed him or turned him into the black flash, not yet. That would’ve screwed the timeline even more, which could actually be a future plot.

@@johnnybravo8129 Lol, im aware. It was just a theory. Hey, I can dream right ? lol Eobard!!!

Khaliel 79 seriously he took a bunch of speed drugs

I think the only reason he caught up to Barry was because Barry wasn't running at full speed because he didn't have his suit on him.

Ian Golden yeah that’s true but Barry was in the speadforce for 6 months and was soaking up all that speed also.

@@BlessedBad i think Barry was also running at Nora's speed so he doesnt leave her behind. Nora is not as fast as Barry and might be slower than Zoom

Khaliel 79 but I mean like, zoom just took season 2 Barry’s speed plus a lot of speed drugs

LMAO FR

He was holding back for nora

​@@BRESHADISL And also they don't have their suits, so if they go much faster their clothes would literally burn

@@ImSanty if that was true they shouldn’t have been able to go fast enough to open a time portal

@@calmsquirrel7124 We all know that the series has a lot of script holes and is very poorly written, but the suits thing is explained since season 1, every suit they make for barry is so he can increase his speed, savitar also explains that his armor is so he can go the speeds he goes and without it his own body would burn out.

@@ImSanty I don’t disagree but you shouldn’t be able to go fast enough to open a portal without suit, I guess that’s just a plot hole

Whisper Wolf reverse flash is mine

@@HasSalute ok but I can't believe I got so many likes.😮😮😮😮

Whisper Wolf I know if your the first to comment more likes I got 1k once

@@HasSalute well I have 5k subscribers.😂😂😂😂

Nope reveerse flash

Lindon Dumais agreed

Yes but if they fought i feel bad for zoom

@@batman6840 Zoom is actually faster than S1 thawne. Might be a fair fight if it was Zoom vs RF from his prime

Sam Lung I had this convo with my friend 2 years ago and we both came to the conclusion that Wells S1 is faster. Barry couldn’t even catch up in S1 & didn’t really defeat him. Technically we haven’t really seen Reverse Flash’s true power.

"Another speedster?"

Zoom was a lot slower before entering the SpeedForce, i think that as long as SpeedForce is Just a void, speed rules doesnt work

I agree.

Flash without tachyons is slower than zoom

@Gustavo Yatsu Barry has been faster than Zoom since the end of season 2.

And because he couldn't ditch Nora.

Lets hope this would make a way to make him come back, i still want more zoom D:

alberth cardenas same

and that creepy sound huuuuuahm

Dude that's what I was thinking

Well congrats you got that wish lol

plot armor

@@Trollface72541 Bad writing

Mannnn what

pfff between that joke of a creative team, grant catching covid and wanting to leave the series before season 10, the shitty cgi especially zoom mask, no cisco, all main villains losing in 30 sec against main NPC's and also acting dumb like these weren't nothing but mere remnants. Season 9 was a joke worst than any season of the Flash, the writing make no sense, the logic left the speedforce, To me the worst fights were ZOOM and SAVITAR they got disrespected to the max.

@@KamiKazeD season 7 was the worst season but season 9 had the worst finale in history

It's a time remnant. That makes more sense.

Even if it is a time remnant it doesn’t matter. If one of Zooms time remnants just disappeared he would know something is wrong and it would alter the timeline.

The time wraiths prob just put him back with no memory Or just manipulated time

David S. Right, guess they do whatever the plot requires lol

We just saw time wraith turn zoom into Black flash remember

He didnt have his suit if he ran full speed he would burn to ashes

Toxic Bikini Otter, *his clothes would burn to ash, not him

Barry couldn't ditch Nora.

Or maybe he wasn’t running at his fastest speed

@@proper_836 that's what he said

Jonathan Shaw rip

He would’ve fixed the show

bruh I got so excited to see zoom and the others to come back but they just get easily finished off like it was nothing. I was expecting it to be Barry's fight not the whole team helping him.

@@notbryyan exactly. I was expecting Jay to fight Zoom. And Wally to fight Savitar. And Bart to fight Godspeed. Would've been awesome that way

@@rahuld.2015 EXACLY

@@rahuld.2015 This is how it should've happened. Except for a few details : Nora and Bart fighting Godspeed. Remember that Godspeed once killed Nora's best friend in her original timeline (5x18) so that makes it personal too. And Barry facing both Eddie AND Eobard Thawne.

He slowed down for Nora

@@daniellewis4117 Dawg Nora was going faster than Barry

@Meeee eeeee because barry slowed down to stop zoom from taking her because she was around zooms speed

@@meeeeeeeee8249 no Nora isnt fast enough to outrun zoom so he need to be behind her so zoom would grab him not Nora. Barry knows he can outrun zoom so he has to. Be willing to let himself get caught so Nora can get away then Barry would go full speed

@@Bloodhound479 Only reason Nora wasnt killed is cuz of plot armor

The finale was actually not that bad I actually enjoyed it. The only thing I didn’t like is how they killed off Savitar so quickly.

@@MLGaming330 there was nothing to enjoy about the finale what are u saying all the previous big bads were one shotted in seconds it was a terrible finale barry didnt even have an interaction with his nemesis

@@Pres100 it’s just my opinion

@@MLGaming330 well that's sad to hear all of them got one shotted even being way faster than they were before dying all of those final fights were dog wank : - Godspeed should easily kill that NPC he easily fast enough he didnt even need to create clones - There's no way SAVITAR would lose to Nora that's not even a debate, everyone will agree with me that was bullshit - And Zoom man, ZOOM, so your telling me instead of killing all the CCPD like he did in his own season in the blink of a eye, he just stood there and talking, did he catch the barry allen virus? Also you're telling he was too slow to see the lightning coming at him or tried to catch like he could easily too and win this garbage confrontation? - And RVF lost like a noob instead of oneshoting this NPC with a single movement of his vibration hands like he easily did when he was barely fast, he decide to troll around just to get defeated. - And Cobalt Blue... Yeah you know what he sucks, he had barry the all time and decided to give up, hell if he was a better leader he would have give the others more speed to insure victory, all that from "none of you were powerfull enough or fast enough to kill the flash" yeah well you were fast enough and yet you did nothing.

@@KamiKazeD Duh, you said everything. That said, I wished they adapted "Finish Line" instead of...what we witnessed. I expected a lot more since all of them are personal ennemies of the Flash Family. Thawne killed Nora Allen, Zolomon killed Henry Allen, Savitar attempted to kill Iris West-Allen and Heart killed Jay Garrick in front of Bart.

He was like bring me that ass right NOW!

Legends handled worse

Legion of Zoom

If they all had 1 focused goal in mind, Team Arrow, Flash, and Legends WITH the league of assassins combined would not stop them.

Fr looked like he went to toys-r-us to get another one

@@slycooper8718 nah mf that sh1t came straight from dollar tree 😭

He decided that since he'll be turned into a jobber like the rest, he ordered another one from Aliexpress to show his dissapointment.

Imagine, season 5 flash, zoom, s1 flash, and s1 Thawne, all fighting

@@Tacoman542 pure chaos

They should be. He has been violating every rule of the speed force since he got his powers

@@TSPH1992 so did RF

@@Anonymous-kn6oq Thawne doesnt care bc he could just come back to life but zoom cant

@@HustleRandomVideos every speedster can do that, if they go fast enough.

@@Susanoo449 thwane made his own speed force

Lol same

No, it's Mach 2. Martin Stein stated that when Caitlin asked how fast must Barry be to time travel and break the dimensional barrier.