Yeah how else are we gonna have the once per episode hallway talk

That always bothered me, like holy jeez I'm a literal wreck and even I would be uncomfortable getting that much constant encouragement. Like do people actually exist that need that level of emotional maintenance ?

@@StarboyXL9 Yeah. He's called Barry Allen.

@@StarboyXL9 yes, many real people do.

I mean he can be like saitama or even kenpachi.

Of course, the Speed Force is derived from the Plot Force.

@@silverhetch3383 and all the other bs forces combine and still don't match up to plot force where they originally came from.

When you combine plot force with the brain of a CW writer, it all fits

CW's The Flash is the epitome of Plot Force meets Plot Armor.

🤯

FR

Reverse fusion is basically fission, but the audience wouldn't know, and the more smart words you throw at the problem, the better it sounds. Just reverse the polarity of the fusion reactor with the dark matter generator.

@@mac1991seth be mindful of the nanofluctuctuations in the Einstein-Rosen field

@@jeremylentz3907 be careful not to bump the dingle arm

Mitochondria

Heh Berry . There's a universe out there with this spelling and another where he is the berry

Nono. He needs Iris to tell him "We're the Flash."

Validation is Barry's drug

No, jo needs to cry, and then run barry run

...except the "other" evil speedster of the season...

that's why i stopped watching it they even got the comics wrong lol

@@livingincreation There’s really nothing wrong with that. It’s an adaptation afterall. But this show’s inconsistency with itself is ridiculous.

thats bc the producers prioritize the writers skin color and gender over knowledge of source material or talent

@@nicograms oh you mean kinda like how dragon ball evolutions is an adaptation 😂😂😂

Well it’s kinda hard not to when you have an 8 season show about a guy with the strongest powers and no weaknesses.

One punch man works cause it is a comedy of a crazy overpowered bald man and usually focuses on the other characters. Flash is trying to take itself seriously

@@crazymadstriker766 Addendum: OPM works because it wasn't written by the CW

@@crazymadstriker766 Also one punch man needs to actually get to the fight. The few times it does take itself seriously the question was never if Saitama could beat whatever monster showed up but more so if Saitama could actually show up in time to stop the monster from wiping out the city first? This can kind of tension usually won't work for The Flash because he can run multiple laps around the planet in less than a second. We can make this kind of tension work but it would have to be somewhere the flash can't just run to like in the vacuum of space or someone in the ocean only accessible to normal humans by a submarine. Let's also not forget that saitama himself despite supposedly being the main character of the series got hardly any screen time in season 2 so clearly there are still some flaws (still way better than the flash).

One Punch Man is so good because it also focuses on the impact this insanely powerful individual has on society. It’s entertaining witnessing figures both high and low react to his appearance and how the world and characters within change as a result.

yeah, but the flash would have to change a few things. First, play it more like superhero comedy, and don't take itself too seriously and overcomplicate things. Make it a simple, streamlined funny story. Second, remove all the melodrama and pointless stuff like that. Third, shorten the seasons to 13 episodes like the marvel netflix shows.

at first I thought it wouldn't be interesting but when you explained it I'm interested now

ME AND PROBABLY LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A THING, IF IT PLEASES THE BIG COMPANIES

So, onepunchman

@@Grygory-fd3kp yeah that would be awesome! And flash in the comics is very sympathetic so he could also try and get villains to be good people instead of zoning the hell out once someone walks behind a corner at human speeds

​@@Grygory-fd3kpis there an anime for literally everything??

He does like zooming in and out of rooms

yeah like with how many times they would have to pick up the papers bc he keeps running in and out of the rooms so fast that it creates a wind that carries the papers of the table would make you think that they would go paperless by like. the second time it happens?? but no they just keep laying papers around

​@@londonc.Yeah he should buy them like a thousand paper weights for christmas

@@cleverballoon6535 or buy them books on how to go paperless "thought these would be useful."

What are they printing out anyway?? Everything is a hologram or a tv screen, or a projector with a slide show.

in a comic he was once faster then teleportison

@@bengig3169 yeah, he can rub back in time. Thats being in 2 places at once.

@@boggless2771 no i mean he ran faster then telep without going back in time

@@bengig3169 thats called immeasurable speed lmao.

stopping time is immeasurable speed which is faster than teleportation.

I think season 3 but I’m not sure.

Actually this is only half-right (and I say this having seen the episode yesterday. It's called "Enter Flashtime" and its in s4) the nuke goes off, he and Jesse both enter flashtime to try and figure out how to stop the nuke as it blows. He brings Cisco to flashtime and tries using Cisco's vibes but since there's almost no time passing in flashtime, Cisco can't breach. He then sends Jesse to earth 3 to get Jay Garrick to help. He tries to get Harry's genius to help and gets Killer Frost in flashtime to try and freeze it which fails, then all 3 flashes try to shoot lighting at it to counteract the nuke reaction but Jay runs out of speed before he can throw his lightning. Jesse then also runs out of juice and freezes. Barry goes to Iris to say his goodbyes as he tells her he tried everything and nothing worked and she gives him an idea which ends up working in the end (surprisingly no pep talks that episode. It's a banger of an episode). He went to the speed force, grabbed the wand Cisco made to trick the SF into thinking it was Barry so thry could get him out of there at the start of the season, and with the wand Barry brought the speed force storm (and its lightning) to stop the nuclear fusion reaction. Also all through the episode you can see the nuclear fusion reaction changing, proving that, even with how fast the flash is with flashtime, time's still moving and they were veeeery close to having the nuke exploding entirely

@@kalebramirez7327 yeah. But all this happened in a matter of microseconds thanks to flashtime. This means that after that episode, literally no villain weaker than a reality warper should be able to make Barry so much as break a sweat

That isn't even the only time he does that. there also another time when he used speed lightning so yeah its ridiculous

You mixed two episodes together

eh I liked Patty Spivot more ngl

Patty and Linda are tied for me

(Bad guy proceeds to Run/Drive/Fly away)

In all fairness, Madvocate did take that clip out of context. There was _literally_ nowhere Snart could have ran, being on a train.

​@@spartanc173 But when you're the Flash, there's nowhere a villain can run because you're the Flash. There are scenes in the show where villains run at normal speed and Flash just gives up entirely even though they were gone for 3 seconds. Madvocate is using that clip the way it was intended to be used.

@@Xgil2Play Certain villains can teleport, though, so they do have the ability to run. Or they do hostage situations. And even if they can't run from him, they can still hide.

@@spartanc173 Did you not watch Madvocate's video? Most people that run away are regular civilians with no superpowers. Even if they hide, the Flash can look at every corner of the area in seconds.

And he very consistently says "we'll find another way!"

​@@xEqualsRandomwhich is code for "Cisco will find another way"

And consistently runs up to where the bad guy is and lets the bad guy surprise and hurt him so they can get away even though Barry could've just run up, taken him out, locked him up and call it a day.

@@xEqualsRandom "You don't have to do it" I'm at season 7 and when I heard barry saying it increasingly often I started to imagine myself being the villain and hear that non sensical shit: bitch I'm a criminal I WANT to do that

This is a thing in the comics too, and no one complained then, it’s literally just a thing when there’s superheroes with super speed, look at Superman.

I think he might have problems against Doomsday, Black Adam, general Zod, Darkseid and basically Superman level villains, since I don't think he can physically harm them. I might be wrong, vibrating hand might be able to do something, but I haven't read any sources where reverse flash or flash used vibrating hand to kill Kryptonian level threats. Ye, Superman has superspeed, but I think Doomsday doesn't?

@@joshuakei8925 I think zod counts as super speed though cause ironman and him are both ridiculously fast I just realized I wrote iron man here 2 month later

@@joshuakei8925 All those people u listed are either celestial beings or celestial adjacent and/or have superspeed

@@sauce6746 To a consistant speedster, this doesn't matter. The flash is to supermans speed as supermans speed is to an average human. They never really talk about it all that much, but speedsters speeds are incalcuable, breaking any laws of physics they want. I beleive things have been shown to phase tthrough superman before as well.

@@Tsuusetsu Thats the funny thing tho because we can never get a consistent speedster cause hed be untouchable and have zero opposition unless he was caught of guard(when hes not in motion if unclear) without the means to react in time

I feel bad for him, hope he's doing well.

To be fair, have you tried slipping on marbles at supersonic speeds? That shit hurts, and even superhuman regeneration doesn't stop the pain.

​​@@spartanc173 to be fair, if he can react to bullets coming at him from behind then why can't he react to marbles going at normal speeds in front of him

@@user-ct8bu1mn6h Momentum? If he's going forwards very quickly, it'll be difficult to then stop going forwards very quickly. Given the metahuman at the time also had reality-warping powers...

@@spartanc173the momentum would make sense if speed force didn’t let him ignore it. (Every time he runs straight at a wall and just steps up)

@@sly_cat Technically that's his momentum being redirected, not stopping altogether.

THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT!

agreed Velocity sucks

I hated Black Canary, she was annoying. As for Iris, it breaks my heart that CW fucked her character up by making her a selfish, inconsiderate asshole making the fan base hate her. I feel bad for Candace Patton, I hope she leaves the show, she's talented and deserves better. CW has ruined too many careers. I'm convinced CW only had Barry and Iris together was to get woke points for having an interracial relationship on the show. Kat Graham and Vanessa Morgan all over again, Hollywood using black people as pawns to make money off them while still treating us like shit behind the scenes and sweeping it under the rug.

@@nenmaster5218 Hehe Madvocate

@@summerrose8110 facts!

I believe the justice league animated series did

I believe he has some mega calorie dense bars or something that make up for it

@@halogamerghost97 They did but it was mostly for goofy sight gags and not "god I'm so hungry". Young Justice actually shows Kid Flash having to top off mid mission which I always thought was a nice touch.

@@if7723 in one episode he actually ran out of food while on the run.

@@thomasraines1396 JL or YJ? Because I distinctly remember the heart transplant episode for YJ and he actually does mention it and eat from the emergency rations a couple times in other episodes but JL Flash I can only remember the jokes. Even Luther Flash didn't need to eat as much as he should and he should be completely unprepared.

Yeah but he has to save someone else and that'll get him hit tho

@@wolfieplays2wolf199 didn’t in one of the episodes he basically paused time cause a nuke was about to go off?

@@phantomarp6909 yeah, it was in season 4

ikr just punch the guy in face,boom settle send that guy to jail after that ..but no how about we show flash having hard time with this guy and his cool gun that shooting ice beam that slower than bullet .

@@phantomarp6909he didn’t pause time itself, we just see his pov when he using his super speed but still yeah if he’s fast enough to where it looks like everything and everyone is frozen all of the of what defeated him shouldn’t have

The plot swords the villains have is insane.

@Mittens LMAO STOP 😂😂😂

Madvocate beating Barry down "Nobody learns from their fl=king mistakes"

No one who isn't a speedster or teleporter should EVER escape Barry. EVER.

"I'm not fast enough" He screams as the villain slowly meanders down the street, not 50 feet from him.

That's because Barry's greatest foe is one we have all defeated by now: his lack of object permanence. You see, just like in a baby's mind, if an object leaves Barry's line of sight, there is no reason to assume that it still exists and therefore there is nothing he can do.

Talking bad one liner is not the problem, the problem is getting hit afterwards. If he can slow down the moment after an atom bomb explode to feels like an hour as well as moving so fast that bullets appear to be still after they pressed the trigger, he should never ever get punched or hit by any physical attack as long as he can move fast.

to be fair, most iterations of the flash treats his villains like people and tries to talk it out before resorting to violence

@@a_d3mon FALSE, there's no violence needed he can just run them to jail and be back instantly.

@@a_d3mon the only way violence is even an option is if the villain the flash is facing off against has super speed as well, but even then if he's already running fast the enemy can't just start running too so there's no episode either way lol

@@a_d3mon but super speed is like, one of the most Overpowered superpowers of all time. Because they logically can't be hit due to their insane reaction time required to effectively move at those speeds, so they should react and immediately prevent any violence before it can happen. And that's not even considering the extra shit that accompanies it (like super strength, improved ability to learn, regeneration, improved durability, etc.) It's utterly broken and that's why the only credible threats to speedsters are fellow speedsters.

Unless they, y'know, attack him in his sleep, plant a bomb in his office, nuke STAR Labs, or just generally go after the people he loves. Barry's fast, but he's still human, not a god.

Except hunter,god speed,eyobard ,etc

It really didn't have to be that way. The writers just made the stupid mistake of making Flash's speed inconsistent in season 1 and then just plain absurd the seasons after that. They could've made a good superhero show that was actually a superhero show easily just by giving him actual limitations and then sticking with them rather than just responding to every threat he has by jacking him up endlessly. You can say the same about a lot of Superheroes like Green Lantern and Superman.

Yeah, I stopped watching the show, but I've seen snippets here and there: Flash watching the Reverse Flash trying to punch him in slow motion and then let him run away after RF told him "I'll become faster!", there was this whole Flashtime BS that they tried to nerf (to no avail). After season 3, the entire series should be about Barry Allen trying to live normal life, disappearing for half a second every now and then to stop a random crime.

@@mac1991seth if you stopped watching 5 seasons ago i don’t think you should be giving out criticism of the newer seasons

@@immortalfrieza That’s why the Flash is boring as fuck. If you make a character too OP, then it deletes almost any sense of threat. So if you try to work around that, there will always be people saying shit like “BuT iN ThE cOmIcS”. I’m not trying to defend the Flash writers or say that they are doing a good job, but I am saying that writing the flash is just a pretty hard thing to do because it’s really hard to please everybody.

lmfao did he tuck into a corner X XD XD XD

Every villain is just a teleporter but only when no one sees them.

this still gets me mad

And the crazy part is it was star labs where she had to take an elevator to get down and out of the building and she still somehow did that in less than 5 seconds and he lost her

Theres like at least 15 scenes in season 1 where barry just lets normal speed villains get away like

you ask for the impossible

hahaha

haha I see what u did there xd, I remember that the brunnette girl was enemy of the redhead girl, they were fighting, insulting each other, and suddenly out of nowhere, they were watching a movie in a car cinema, TOGETHER!!! like best friends, but they were antagonists, LIKE WTF! no logic at all, even the flash has more logic xd

Travel through time is more of a byproduct speedforce connection + some speed. He enters speedforce and exists at another location. He does NOT bruteforce his way past light-speed to time travel. Likewise, Batman was able to tape Flash onto his car and timetravel at the max speed of his vehicle, for the reasons above.

@@kingol4801 Even so, when Barry can time travel, not being fast enough is not an excuse because he can travel to the past to catch the villain before he left.

he can time travel when the writer wants to include something cool but it conflicts with the story not by speed

fun fact: he holds back his speed so he doesnt accidentally go into the speedforce

@@dyscolored But he still runs fast without getting trapped in the speed force.

LMAO

lol

why didn't he just take the gun out of his hands

@@theghostlyterror3578 cuz then how would we do a spinoff show which is even more illogical where captain cold dies in the first season anyways?

Wait this actually happened?😂

Yeah, once you neutralise Savitar's speed, all you need to get past is the 7-foot tall... mechanised... indestructible suit of armour... I mean, yeah, it would have been a great plan, but still not perfect. Hell, what's stopping Savitar from just teleporting in the way he was teleporting around the city?

Ok, now you're going too fast, even he can't think that fast.

@@duelist4512 he can

Can and has done it in the comics.

@@duelist4512 He can, he absolutely can The Flash's entire body including his brain works at almost light speed (sometimes it can even reach light speed to travel in time, like in Flashpoint)

He couldn’t go that fast because the light would take too long to go from the book to his eyes

good lord yes! Iris got worse and worse with every season... until she was dumber than a sack of bricks. she literally jumps in dangers IN SPITE of everyone in the show WARNED her about that.. then she scolds them for being... too stupid? the comic Iris would have be ashamed by CW-Iris.

I literally said this exactly a week ago lol!

Yeah, i stopped watching when i saw that she became the leader, i cant with that level of stupidy, and just because they didnt know what to do with her.

@@discworldfan no kidding I was SO ticked off when iris purposely put herself in danger after Barry got back from the speed force and A lot of other instances too

Omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yeah but I guess you could argue that his hatred made him more passionate towards training to be faster and the suit made him faster or whatever other CW logic you’re gonna use.

​@dibsdibs3495 it's been a minute since I watched the show but didint they say that they are all the same speed, but the others touch the ground less, making them faster

If he punches at super speed, he'd kill the villain

@@anonimanonim2710 or he could just relocate them. We’ve seen him pick people up and move them to other locations without them even knowing what happened. He moved a criminal outside of a moving car into the back of a cop cruiser and hand cuff him and was miles away before anyone realized what happened. Also his punches can kill people, but he definitely can control them. We’ve seen him punch at super speed and people still survive. He literally picked a guy up and while running at super speed slammed his head in a pole knocking him out. So don’t try to use the fact that he’d kill a person if he uses super speed as an excuse.

@@aryanakiraj5049 Even tho you're right, I refuse to admit defeat

​​@@aryanakiraj5049 Madvocate fan I see. It's nice to hear his logic in these subjects because that's the obvious solution lol.

​@@ahshitherewegoagain8695 There's no where to run!

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I can't even think of how many shows I've dropped because of it getting drawn out

I dropped flash at season 4 because flash took whole fucking season to beat a guy who can't even walk.

8 seasons hmmm don't I know another show with eight seasons where the 8th season was so terrible it had everyone raging. Oh yeah Game of thrones.

@@matthewtalbot-paine7977 for the flash, it was the 7th season.

same goes for other DC heroes (Superman, Batman, etc.). unfortunately, that doesn't have the mass appeal needed to get big.

@@toricon8070I feel like anime’s like full metal alchemist do it well. Everyone uses alchemy in interesting ways but the rules are always consistent. Working in a set of rules is always the more interesting one

One version of her knew one version of Barry telling her that he is the flash. But flashpoint erased both versions of Barry(the one watching that eventually tells her as well as the one that actually saves her causing the flashpoint)...so yay...no version of Nora knowing he is the flash,excluding his daughter.

Excluding the speed force version as well since that isn't really his mother.

I mean with flashe's speed he doesn't keep the whole US safe just because he doesn't want to

@@orchestraoverseer9426 I mean, in his defense he needs time to sleep, eat, and enjoy things. Eating and pooping specifically would likely take up a lot of his time, because of insane metabolism. Which might just limit how much crime he could stop in a day.

@@piranhaplantX yes, sometimes when you are dealing with the topic of a man who can run at around mach 5 velocities you forget he is also a human just like any of us

@@orchestraoverseer9426 But given he has super speed… Barry could vibrate his rectum and intestines… take a super dump within a second.

@@itwasidio1736 I am so grateful that you have answered me Dio. I am your greatest fan. Planning on picking up what Pucci started

Yet he says he ‘doesn’t kill’, THE DUDE KILLS

Ha! You have to stay on top somehow.

Also Savitar was technically him, and Reverse flash wasn't born yet (or never because of time travel)

It’s really fucked up how Barry has canonically killed/contributed to someone dying and none of the characters react or care, and yet they still bitch and whine about it.

​@@mrstar3218 Except in the comics we're he usually has a body count of one. Reverse Flash killed Iris, and then four years later went to kill Fiona Webb. So Barry snapped his neck. Even Batman said the guy had it coming.

"And monetize it"

@@StarboyXL9 not only monetize it, but monetize it in a way that it fits the video

That’s not even the worst of Flash’s inconsistency, there are times when he’s stated to run at Mach 3 or something then we’re shown he sees fucking *lightning* in slow motion. Lightning moves at Mach 351. Bullets should be frozen in time compared to him, he’d be able to stop crime all over the city in a continual basis.

@@phoebusapollo8365 Indeed, which was what I was referring to when stating that there's a difference between how is speed is shown scientifically vs. stated explicitly. At his speed, even without Flashtime, people shouldn't be able to differentiate between him standing and leaving to stop a crime/do whatever + returning other than the energy released from him running.

@@phoebusapollo8365 The writers have a terrible grasp on science. When Mick Rory is introduced, they say his gun heats things up to the planck temperature, which would require a power source orders of magnitude more powerful than the sun and basically destroy the entire solar system when fired. Then there's also in Elseworlds when they say Barry and Kara need to "circle the Earth at Mach 7," which would mean one revolution around the planet would take over 4 and a half hours, but we see them doing multiple revolutions per second, which would put their speed at like Mach 250,000 at least. A little faster than Mach 7. Of course, these are just two examples among dozens.

There are a few other counters to it, but a writer needs to be *extremely* careful about the kinds of villains a speedster fights, otherwise they ruin the consistency and believability of their show.

@@Aredel as happened in almost every major piece of content featuring said type of hero.

You can counter it with traps, to a degree. It still takes time for a trap to engage after being triggered, no matter how instantaneous it seems, so if you're fast enough nothing can stop you.

@@kartonrealista Even if the trap goes off, it still needs to be able to make contact or impede the speedster. A pitfall or spike trap won't do shit, as they'd already have run across it and kept going.

@@Aredel I was thinking of poisons or magic curses, something quick and activated at point-blank range, otherwise you don't even stand a chance. Another thing that could work but can get countered with enough speed is point-blank teleportation, like teleporting a weapon right outside the fast guy's body. Area of effect also could work, but if we are being realistic running at let's say 2/3 of the speed of light generates 11.5 times the kinetic energy of the Tsar Bomba (assuming you weigh 70 kg). You become an area of effect just by merely hitting air with your body.

I know that this is a stretch and I mean a lot but maybe he had to activate, like a lightbulb. Still dumb tho

The real reason is Savitar’s suit. It is by far one of the most OP protective shells in the history of comics. Given that it can literally negate nigh-infinite forces of friction, it is not a stretch that it can negate some (infinitely small in comparison) frequencies blocking meta-powers. The only thing that can damage that armour are other speedster’s powers, as the suit itself is powered by a limited-but-ever-replenished-from-the-wearer speeedforce charge.

Absolutely true

Yeah, and apparently he never came back for the criminals after dropping the guy off at the hospital.

lol

Cold gun does NOT freeze. It is not a freeze gun. Hell, even comics themselves addressed it many times over. It STOPS motion of molecules to the point of dropping temperature straight to absolute 0 (no motion at all). Hence, it is a perfect weapon against somebody who’s only power is speeding up, as it would just negate their powers altogether. Another issue - speedster’s awareness and speedforce usage is a toggle. Truth is, nobody would want to live in a frozen world, and hence, in order to have a conversation etc…. Function as a human being, really, speedsters tend to slow down/stop using their powers. That is when they are most vulnerable. A great example is RF’s death by Batman. He was so invested in holding a conversation and letting Flash see the world burn, real-time, that he did not notice the bullet going against his skull until the last second. By the time he realized it and speed up, it was too late. (It did not stop him permanently, but it did “kill” him, until his death/life was undone by time travel and he became the “universal constant”). So, combine a situation with speedster being distracted + a gun which renders speed useless (it should not be a projectile, really, it is an instantaneous ray which THEN turns air into ice on its path) and you get a well-functioning villain. Similarly, killer Frost does NOT freeze things. She is a energy vampire, which sucks out any energy out of the target instantaneously, and THEN converts it into those icy projectiles. When Killer Frost touched adefeated Superman, she got a whole energy of a Sun within her, freezing any matter/motion itself around her from that burst of immense surplus energy. So, yes, these villains do work against MOST speedsters. The upper-tier-speedsters, however, can kill them before they think/use powers etc.

@@kingol4801 these villains do work against speedsters, the only problem is how the show writes them to a stupid degree

@@kingol4801 I got some news for ya... Slowing down molecules IS freezing.

@@HandledToaster2 I am well aware

@@kingol4801 People always defend Cold by saying this, but the thing is, this was NOT mentioned in the show. Therefore it is not cannon. If the show writers really wanted to prove Snart was a threat, THEY SHOULD OF EXPLAINED IT. If they even bothered to mention his cold field, their audience wouldn’t have had half the confusion they have now. You shouldn’t have to go to alternate sources to make sense of a writer’s mess.

Unless you just hyper punches a piece of tungsten through the building.... But that would take way more wind up them just stabbing her so yeah still better then their plan.

Not really genius, just common sense. Madvocate didn’t seem to need a lot of time to figure it out in “The Flash is Insufferably Inconsistent Season 3”, and it was basically spelled out by one of the characters. Hopefully he summons enough sanity to keep tearing down the CW, since the Flash is so fun to rip to shreds, and his editing style is hilarious.

Even worse, because Savitar is Barry. Team Flash just need to have Iris on an plane without Barry knowing because what Savitar gonna do? Use the speed force: Flying edition to catch her?

@@thedeck-buildingdemon8293 I doubt that, Season 7 got destroyed on Youyube but somehow the CW still make another season, though luckily season 8 start out quite decent (which I doubt would last till the end)

@@leepicrandomaa Stupid, Savitar was able to create portals to get around the city 🤦🏼

Yeah, much better than Iris, zero chemistry.

It's kind of a blessing that Shantel VanSanten was kicked off the show so she wouldn't have to stick around with more nonsensical bullshit with Flash.

really? because she was my least favorite she was really bitchy in the end and basically extorted/coerced him to reveal his identity to her I know its supposed to be this sweet moment but she literally called her ex who she broke up with and still loves her and told him that she was about to die on a train to see if the flash would show up, thats fucked up

@@InitialPC That was too late dude. At that point they changed her character to get rid of her and end their relationship. In the beginning they were decent and she was awesome.

Any love interest barry had is much better than iris, even felicity and i hate that woman.

Patty was the best

those were some pretty nice stairs. great eye openers.

Even Caitlyn would be better

Iris is so freaking annoying. She has nothing compared to the rest of the team, except for telling Barry he should not give up and telling him to run.

On the Savitar thing, why didn't Iris just, I dunno, hop dimensions, then hop on a plane to australia or africa? Even if Savitar did reach that dimension, it's not like he can fly (in this continuity)

Thr flash has control over the speed force which is basically a plot device that let's him do all the things he does without breaking the laws of physics or hurting anyone

cause speed force something something

Its explained that the speed force protects everything that a speedster is in contact with from any outside forces

The way the speed force works, anything that the flash touches will also be protected by the speed force so I think he should be able to.

Then how can he attack people?

While worm by wildbow doesn't feature speedsters all that much, there are only two in the entire story. And Leviathan doesn't count cause he's essentially an endgame boss. The other speedster velocity has a very interesting take on superspeed. He gets really fast because he can transition his body partially into light which means he can move faster at the expense of interacting with the world around him. Which actually explains why he needs to slow down

@@mightbeapersonmaybe8379 Yeah that story just had cooler powers in general than any other superhero story ever put to screen. I still have nightmares about Bonesaw cutting me open or releasing that actual zombie virus she created lol

@@Jonathan_Wall dude same. Terrifying little girl ain't she? You remember Gavel? The birdcage guy who had a weird brute power? Always wanted to throw him against characters who just punch harder instead of thinking around a problem

@@mightbeapersonmaybe8379 holy shit other people who have read Worm lets gooo

@@thomasweeden2683 wooooo!!!

25 times? That’s 169 days of Flash. On the one hand I respect you for being so dedicated to a show you like, on the other I think you have a serious addiction.

@@KangarooMonkey I need help.

If you counted, why is it roughly and not precisely?

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"high stakes" but we all know they won't actually kill any of the core cast off in a way that sticks and if they destroy the world we cant have a show anymore. Much better stakes were things like getting his dad out of jail, or determining if killer frost goes evil. Emaller stakes where the characters can fail and not have it end the show are much better. (More believable in that they can fail) And its always painful when writers just technobable diwn to the audience, at least star trek is doing it out of legacy from the 60's or so and doesn't really try to convice us that this is how the real world works, only the star trek universe.

@@jasonreed7522 the comics suffer the most from this. The stakes just keep going hugger and higher till they lose the sense of danger. At this point it's usually like this. An 'Ancient Evil' has risen to destroy the uni/multiverse. Some di©kwad from the future/past decided to do something stupid. Or an OP Superhero goes rogue due to *insert revelation/traumatic event* It's only a matter of time before some says something like. "So what is it this time? *Mentions the things written above one by one* ?" If it hasn't said yet

One could say that Savitar's suit cancels out the meta dampeners since it is of unknown build but more importantly Savitar has the option to kill every human in that military facility and destroy the dampener source to get Iris but the show doesnt do a good job explaining why that plan fails

All the langueages in the world an you choose to speak facts. Also, don't these shows know that its okay to nerf your heroes? At the start of Flash series, he was movinvg at like 300mph which is fast, but not bullet fast. It's a much better even fight for most villians. Then things got crazy.

To be fair, in the comics, he was invented a long time before 'the speed force' was a concept, and so freezing the ground was a perfectly good way to catch the Flash off guard, since it doesn't matter how fast he's going if he doesn't have traction. Also in the comics, it has been shown that while he isn't a speedster, compared to 'normal guys with guns', he's insanely fast, accurate and hard to hit himself. Because of course a guy whose main accomplishment/purpose in life is 'screwing with a guy who moves at light speed' is going to make normal guys feel like they're moving through molasses. And ALL that said, the actual "Rogues' Gallery" villains have never been the most dangerous threats to the Flash. Gorilla Grodd, Reverse Flash, Abra Kadabra were considered the most dangerous Silver Age villains, and Wally (who got three major boosts in speed in Flash 50, 79 and 100) had a ton of speedster villains. His biggest non-speedster threats were probably Cobalt Blue and Cicada. (And technically Zoom II, but none of us really consider him not a speedster.)

In the comics he had a "cold field", field around him that slows Barry or any other speedster to such a degree that allows him to hit them with his great aim. The field is so strong any non-speedster person that enters it essentially immediately dies , and bullets are completely stopped by it. The show could've given cold this field or just used one line of dialogue to say he does and effectively nothing would've changed in terms of him as a villain.

@@mccharles1257 When did he get this field in the comics? Certainly not in the Silver Age.

@@willchurch8376 Iirc this was one of those new 52 things? As for how to stop him, there's still honestly various ways of Barry just continually throwing dozens of objects at him at mach 3 or so. I think the cold field could very easily be bypassed by supernatural beings, even if bullets aren't enough.

@@willchurch8376 Again, he still needs to hit the Flash. Why couldn't he just dodge when he could literally dodge a whole barrage of bullets? Not to mention the fact that a, a freeze gun is impossible to use because you will just block your own ray and b, with that amount of heat he creates just by running, considering the speedforce didn't exist and we somewhat follow real life physics, he would instantly melt, if not vaporize anything. Furthermore, the traction thing is, to be completely frank, a load of bull. So you're telling me he can easily run on fking water but somehow cannot do something about frozen ground?

“Lightning bolt!”

What?

That is not low temperature. That is ridiculous. Flash can just move faster and heat up the area around him in an instant due to his speed, no matter the temperature. Low temperature is a by-product. When you suck out any energy/motion of an object, their temperature would drop to absolute 0. What his gun (and killer frost’s power) really do is act as energy vampires and nullifying any energy/speed. Consequentially, they freeze air around them when they use their powers, or redirect said energy into icy projectiles/other blasts etc.

While Leonard’s cold gun slows down Flash’s molecules to a halt, low temperatures don’t affect his speed that much. In Justice League Doom, he runs through an iceberg.

I know some people found him annoying, Im not one of those people.

He wrote sexist tweets and was fired

Who is elongated man?

@@rainbowz3210 Weren't those from years ago?

@@rainbowz3210 those were like a decade ago. Makes no sense to fire him now tbh. If that's the case a lot of celebs shouldnt be acting 😭

Exactly, he wouldn't even have to worry about hurting his hands, not when he's got the 600 mph brick

ok but he wouldn't need it... he's already OP as fuck with his hands

​@@yourmum69_420 Fuck it, he doesn't even have to punch them. Just grab them and lock them up before their brain can even begin to process what just happened. Because that's how fast he is! If he can think in attoseconds, regular brain humans can't do shit to him. None of their attacks would ever land cause they'd look like statues.

bro hits a villain with a rock at light speed, might destroy the entire earth, gotta becareful lmao

At speed he just has to touch their heads while he runs.

Second season worked. Third season was all over the place and writers did dirty on Savitar. Precisely that though. Moving sub-light-speed is Flash’s S4 feat, and anything prior to that makes sense, by him being not THAT fast.

@@kingol4801 Yeah, it was good until Season 2, after that its been Season after Season of nothing but shite. This show should have been cancelled a long time ago.

@@kingol4801 Although him 'accidentally time travelling' before he was moving near light speed, or outrunning the pull of a singularity/black hole's gravity seem to call that into question.

The issue was entirely the fact that the writers didn't have any restraint. They made the exact same mistake that the Flash comics did by just endlessly jacking him up rather than doing what they should've done and making sure he had consistent limitations thus writing him to work around said limitations. Reverse Flash/Zoom/Savitar/Some other speedster is faster than him? Have Barry develop his skills with the Speedforce and plan sometimes on the fly to close the gap, don't just make Barry faster.

@@immortalfrieza Yeah, no shit. And they should have done that as well with the villains. It's fine to have some villains 'even faster' than him, but it basically boiled down to any serious villain was faster than him, any speedster not faster than him was a goddamn joke, and any non-speedster villain could disappear immediately after running off camera. Back in the 90s, when Wally West was the Flash, there was a Return of Barry Allen storyline, which featured Wally struggling against a speedster faster than himself. Later on, in Dead Heat, we were introduced to Savitar, a new speedster villain, but instead of making him 'faster than Wally', he was able to steal other speedsters' speed (not Wally's), give speed to other people (his army), and had so many improved ways of using his speed that Wally was really forced to outthink him. And then, when they introduced Zoom, he had a completely different powerset and motivation, where he more or less stopped time rather than moved fast, and where he was obsessed with improving heroes (by putting them through tragedy). Compare that to the TV Show. Reverse Flash, hates Barry Allen because he's a sociopath, is faster than Flash. Zoom, hates Barry Allen because he's a psychopath, is faster than Flash. Savitar, hates Barry Allen because he's psychotic, is faster than Flash. I didn't really see the Godspeed stuff, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say he hates Barry because he's psychotic and is also faster than him.

Nah more lkke zombies being genetically altered to have climbing fingers but only 15 zombies The dlscientist then dies and the zombies are obliterated but over the course of the next season every single zombie effortlessly scales anything with no mention to the climbing zombies at all

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He doesn't kill.

@@darksideofevil13 lmao cap

@@hypnoxxer Well not traditional as far as I know. Isn't he one of the non killing heroes?

@@darksideofevil13 Ok, he will rip their tendons out instead.

So.... basically what Reverse Flash did to Cisco?

One of my first thoughts.

Thing is half the time they need him alive and semi well, and when they don’t he’s too fast for them

@@beyman7962 he said EVIL speedsters, read.

@@helloneighbour2408 I think you need to reread what they said. They're talking about how the villain needs Bary alive, not the other way around. Read correctly.

That's what I loved about Savitar's design lol unlike the other speedster villains who just used their speedster powers in fighting, this mf was stabbing people with blades in his arms

Comics are also very inconcistent though. One comic showed that he basically CAN'T be blindsided. It had a sniper shoot at him. Barry was unharmed because his nervous system is also in super speed so he felt the bullet touch his skin and then he just stepped aside and the bullet didn't even leave a scratch. He's so fast that he can out-react things as they are making contact with him.

@@EskChan19 Which was lucky of the Flash. RF died from bullet, however (you can look it up on KZfaq) - he reacted too late and by the time he sped up, it was over. But yes, Flash can be blindsided. Just not by a sniper, really. Batman only managed that feat of killing RF because HE IS BATMAN. Perfect ninja, finding the right moment of RF lowering his guard down due to his investment in their conversation and gloating. There is a difference between having a semi-awareness and having no awareness at all. Flash was just minding his business, meaning that his subconscious was still vigilant. RF arrived to the pinnacle of his dreams, as he wishes everything to happen that way to his very core, which is why his subconscious was NOT such reactive. RF tried to 100% live in the moment then. So, really, it depends! Likewise, Deadshot was able to sniper rifle Flash in Injustice 2, due to Flash not even imagining that somebody will have the audacity to shoot him with anti-meta bullets WHILST him super-speeding around the city.

@@kingol4801 i agree with the first part, but the deadshot sniping of flash in injustice is just fucking stupid. The bullet caught up with flash who was going in super speed, it's just not good writing.

@@filipbruzzolo8747 The bullet did not “catch up”. It intercepted him due to Deadshot planning the shot ahead to the millisecond. Also, meta bullets are a thing.

@@kingol4801You really can't defend that logically. It's just a comic bro, it makes no sense, trying to make it sound like it makes any sense just comes across as silly. Any super hero with super speed beyond lightspeed with a reaction time to equal it would be unstoppable by literally any other super power let alone a gun lol. He would literally be able to feel the change in air pressure associated with the bullet coming close to him even without seeing or knowing it was coming. Or like the other guy said, he could just feel it touch his skin and immediately move out of the way. you would physically need instantaneous reaction time to travel that fast afterall.