Anakin I'm a good person, that stops evil. Anakin(Darth Vader), murdering all the separatists on mustafar. And younglings

Ow him hes not with us

@@aurathedraak7909 Anakin (Darth Vader) murders younglings

@@aurathedraak7909 both parties are guilty

Captain Rex of the 501st captain rex impaled an unarmed man with a staff a clone shot krell instead of letting him face trial Anakin slaughtered tuskin raiders the clone army is an army of slaves with no choice whether to fight or not and gets no respect atleast the droid army wasn’t all that sentient so they didn’t care about going to war.

Nah, they were just the useful idiots manipulated to help bring it about.

The empire was founded on democracy and emperor palpatine was elected as emperor

OHH

That happens when you get murdered by your competition.

@@TheSuperRatt the same thing can be said about the republic

The sith arent evil they are good your just influenced by jedi and rebellion propaganda

@Nam Nugooyen so evil guy got it.

How are the sith good guys? All they want is power and willing to kill each other and anyone around them to get it.

to be fair it was pushed on them without ther knowledge

That army belongs to the republic the jedi just were placed in charge

Its more like the fact that the separatist started hostilities by trying to assassinate amidala, and with the trade federation blockaded naboo. If I were the jedi or the Republic I would have started close tabs on the separatist the moment they blockaded naboo, and after the invasion of naboo.

zach kapsh When the Trade Federation attacked Naboo the CIS didn’t even exist yet so that’s not really a reason. That’s where it all started for the sith plan, but not what the galaxy at large would claim.

@@zkapsh #1 When the trade federation blockaded Naboo it wasn't a member of the C.I.S. #2 the trial for the Naboo blockade/Invasion ended years before AOTC, it was no longer relevant as punishment had already been given out after Nite Gunray had to testify before the galactic Senate. #3 The flaw in this I the disgusting investigation process that Obi goes through. Let's say an assassin tries to kill a U.S. senator so an FBI agent is investigating. That agent tracks that assassin to Mexico or something and once found the assassin flees to Russia. That FBI agent proceeds without authorization to go into Russia, THEN spies on a meeting within the executive branch of the Russian government (or whatever, I don't know how the Russian government works) then the Russians discover this spy, tries him and sentences him to death, then the United States launches a full scale invasion of Russia. Even though the FBI agent entered that foreign nation illegally and without any authorization and for some reason decided to spy on Putin in the Kremlin. That's basically what happened, Geonosis wasn't part of the republic, it was a foreign nation and Obi (as much as I like him) did something pretty shady... Oh then the US senator travels to Russia illegally, then murders a bunch of people (Anakin and Padme killed those bug people who were just defending their home)

@@codyrex0707 Except my understanding is it was not went to Russia. It was trail leads to Mexico. Find assassin working to make an army for US. Follow assassin to deserted section of Texas (Geonosis being in Republic space) And find senators conspiring with isolationist militias. FBI grabs army and heads into Waco to gunship rescue senator and agents. Civil war erupts.

@@zkapsh as I remember it, it was a bounty hunter working with the kaminoins who just so happened to be hired by the Republic to make a slave army...

Jalan Rupert That's geetlsys for you, a bunch of clickbait

Yeah, but there is some good stuff

truth. I remember the Mando'a books by Travis (i think) were really interesting books not just because of the Mandalorian stuff (which was amazing), but because it also was one of the few sources that actually called out the Jedi and the Republic for being the "good guys" while literally being a faction that was mass breeding slaves to throw away in war, and how many jedi didn't even treat the clones as living beings. I also remember the series getting canceled because so many jedibois were salty and seething over the fact their favorites were getting called out.

Well, the writers never actually wrote what citizens of CIS life are, and mostly focused on the republic.

Pugnacious Productions You want clickbait? Look no further than that ego-centric hack Star Wars Theory, who, when called out by a viewer for his clickbaiting, sicced his rabid fan base to verbally attack the viewer just for pointing out the cold hard truth!

They would have won. Clones probably wouldn't have existed, and most nonclone armies were steam rolled by them. Not to mention they probably wouldn't have waged war to begin with.

@@samuelbishop3316 I mean they only existed because of the sith

@@johnbaldauff5531 Well it's not as if the seperatist sentinents weren't present regardless.

@@festethephule7553 it was made by decades of sith movements as stated in the Darth plagus book

Yeah, they really need a spinoff where the CIS without outside influence, fights the Republic. That to me seems way more intriguing. In truth they already an extremely cool premise. A ragtag group of companies and planetary governments rebelling against the corrupt Republic. But instead, we have this... mess.

George A. Custer yep, end of the first paragraph.

George A. Custer Such a shame that the line is often overlooked entirely by most viewers.

“Heroes on Both Sides” eventually became an episode of TCW.

Yes. IIRC that was the last sentence of the scroll.

ROTS doesn't show us much in the way of CIS heroes.

When the trees start speaking clone

Space Fortunate Son?

bemotivated *when snow on Hoth starts speaking with a British accent*

*_THE CLONES WERE BORN MAADE TO SHOOT THE DROIDS, OOOHHH THOSE B1'S AND 2'S._* *_SOME CLONES WERE BORN WITH INTEEELLIGENCE TO SPAARE, OH THOSE ARKS AND COMAAANDO'S_*

What are you talking about? The separatists are amazing! I fully support the separatists in the galactic civil war! Guyshelpmegreviousisrightbehindme-

“Roger Roger!”

The geonosians are pretty cool once you ignore the zombies and the history

@@trexindominus8119 and their culture, language, customs... lmaoo

Tbh b1 droids are much more compassionate and nice to the enemies then the clones were often this is why i would hope (in clone wars animated seris) that the droids sometimes won because they themselves act much nicer and more kinder to enemies then those rude and aggressive and mean clones were

Roger roger.👍

Guess there would be no one to save or betray the emperor

There is no timeline in which, even with the element of surprise, any clone kills the Chosen One. Plus, there's a strong likelihood that Anakin was exempted from the order in advance anyway.

Or he just blocks it and just cuts tups head off

End credits?

I think it's pretty clear anakin was exempt. He was always to be the tool for the Emperor

I loved these comics

Jabiim is like the Kuwait of Star Wars. Some insignificant little country that no one cares about until you discover that they are rich in oil fields beyond your wildest dreams. Then all of sudden, The Republic comes kicking the door down in the name of "freedom and democracy".

@@-CrimsoN- oil?

Well... yes and no... a good portion of the Pirates mentioned I think were funded by Separatists to further inflame tensions. Jabiim was already justifiably pissed but they wanted to give the planet a good push...

@@-CrimsoN- What? The Iraqis invaded Kuwait, the Americans (for oi....I mean"freedom and democracy" of course) helped Kuwait, which was a US ally. ......and Jabiim was like 1000000 to the power of infinity levels of tougher.

This is even funnier if you take into account that the Republic would usually claim that some separatist were monsters brcause they were willing to kill surrendering enemies ... When the republic troops and even the Jedi themselves had a kanc for using fake surrender tactics during all of the clone wars and thus giving the CIS a very valid reason on why not to take prisioners as they might part of a trap. In fact is extremely surprising that after the first 2 times the CIS din't juat started to kill all surrendering ememies and keep taking surrendering adversaries as prisioners rather than just kill them.

I think faking surrender is a war crime

@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 It is anf there is a good reason for that. If one faction starts using fakes surrenders to the point the other faction starts to take heavy losses from this, is very likely that eventually the other faction will start killing surrendering enemies from prevent this from happening again given that the enemu is willing to abuse the humantariam treatment given to POWs. And this eventually is a peoblem when other soldiers on your side want to actually surrender. Faking surrender is a very serious war crime because a false surrender can cause a snowball effect that usually results in the war becoming more violent and brutal.

@@RexMK- well i guess in that case since droids are always too kind to accept surrenders and clones are too cruel to always trick through surrenders ig it wont happen in star wars tbh this type of unfair inhumane stuff from the "gOoD" republic kinda makes me happy that hypocritical jedis were killed the clones were slowly got ridden of and the system went through a clensing through the empire

@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 Yeah the Jedi were WAY out of touch with everything that was happenkng outside their temple. Fun Fact: There were some Jedi that were even unaware of the reasons of why the Separatist wanted sescesion from the republic. Like they were IGNORANT of how half of the galaxy lived in the most absolute missery.

*ENEMY FORCES HAVE CAPTURED A COMMAND POST*

@@Nate-ms4be hostile reinforcement count is diminishing

WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS

Watch out for those wrist rockets

If you ever wanted to take a trip down memory lane, I believe STEAM has both of the old battlefront games with still very active servers and mod developers.

Disney perpetuating and exacerbating the unfair and asinine light/dark polarization with no respect for, oh I don't know, reality and the complexity of the individual. They took a character rich with back story and made him a cardboard cutout.

@@aarondevaldez9134 it honestly breaks my heart seeing what they did to grievous.

@@James-pt2vk Mine too.

FatGuySurprise Disney didn’t make the clone wars and what did they do to grievous?

Grievous is evil Long live the republic and the senate!

Heros on both sides i believe though im not sure

Yeah, Heroes on both sides; Geetsly's said so in the video.

I'm working on something like that.

Aaron deValdez Really where? I check your channel and you don’t have any videos on KZfaq, do you have another account perhaps? Please let me know.

Maybe it can be told from the perspective of a b1 battle droid

@@aarondevaldez9134 are you writing fanfiction

@@ghr501able Yes. But admittedly it's been a while.

In legends only sadly....his canon origin now is that he wanted to be a jedi and got told no so he threw a massive bitch fit. Much prefered his legends origin

Maybe, but his acts weren’t confined to the Jedi. He slaughtered billions with his tactics.

Geostomp a lot of his actions were just what came from war. Plus his masters were who were really running what was going on. When it comes to war there’s really no rules

FatGuySurprise Please tell me that’s not actually his canon backstory and you’re just joking

@@MrFredstt The Huk War is Canon and Grievous developed his vendetta because the Republic sided with the Huk.

Yeah he seems warranted at first but he literally goes about killing innocent people who are in the way and doesnt feel remorse. He's a guy who would destroy a republic hospital without hesitation. It's like how with the Haitian revolution the slaves overthrew their masters but then went on a rampage and killed every white person they could find even if those people weren't slave owners

Acting out does not equal commiting xenocide.

Same. I feel a lot of Star Wars falls into that very simplistic black and white worldview.

OOM- 32 and when he gets to kill the people that let his world suffer, he lets loose his psychopath for a while. Which is all well deserved since he basically lost his family, love, and honor to a corrupt government that basically spat in their face for help and listened to the horrible lies of the Huk. Grievous honestly coulda been a great Jedi had he been more attuned with The Force.

Still evil

@@XplodingTurtle well from general grievous's point of view the Jedi are evil. And he did have a point If a government did nothing to help your people, and you help yourselves only for the aggressors to get help from the very same government who are supposed to intergalactic peacekeepers ( with the Jedi order). And afterwards the sanctions they put on his poeple caused them poverty and some died of starvation. The Jedi grew arrogant and short sighted. They to grievous became the very thing they wanted to destroy.

Anouk Amerasekera atleast the jedi didnt kill anyone who crossed their path. And the jedi cant really do anything with the republic breathing in their necks

Also, in legends the Seps fucked with his brain when he was cyborged to make him more animalistic. Not sure if that’s still canon.

The cis remnants became the rebels

Ya got damn right ya fuckin Yank the Sou... i mean the Seps will rize agian

They did rise again and won

They hack into Imperial ships PA system and blast Dixie as they attack

Will Meyers course we will the Anzat will crush all of the empire

It would all have been different if Dooku was not a traitor to the CIS.

It was the other Senate XD

Ya, and make robots

I'd ravage Rey's rim. That was kinda tryhard, I know.

@Overkill XJ Mmmm, Padme...

@@BenniRoR Rey is a frickin' mary sue though...

@@spartanwar1185 So? That does not disqualify her from a healthy attack on the rim.

BenniRoR ­ agreed

No

Dude shut up.

@@charleslindberg829 no u

no

Bro he is just making a Idea you don't need to be jerks about it

Understandable sure but his actions are still evil. The same can be said about Vader

It is curious but the corruption and ineffectiveness of the republic created General Grievous and Dart Tyranus ...

@@rturae you also have to keep in mind that Dooku and Sideous manipulated his mind to make him more aggressive and violent when they were installing all his cybernetics.

Oh boo hoo my body is shattered. That doesn’t give you an excuse to massacre innocents.

The CIS is also other factions.

Well in legends the seps kinda are because many former seps later joined the rebelion

Wtf 😂

Most Star Wars guns are real guns. The Sterling and the C96 (Han Solo's blaster) being the most blatant.

Gloryseeking Spaceman also the T-21 used by the Empire is obviously a Lewis gun

Because it looks cool. Imagine a P90 that can rapid-fire plasma bolts

Just fucking imagine that a blaster firing 50 shots the speed of the p90 That would be so cool

You could have a bounty hunter as the main character

@@innocentspringrain729 Or something like the sentinels from days of future past.

Yeah, they were just a proto rebel alliance with a lot more funding

war crimes commited by both parties

@@simpleclonetrooper2740 republic propaganda

@@JamesJJSMilton truth.

@Sakkra101 exactly

Roger Roger

there woukd be no war, the republic had no clone army without thw sith and the separatist doesnt have a hand blocking theyr projects the cis wins

@@blecao But many of the corporations would not have joined the CIS due to lack of the Sith making them less powerful and less likely to fight against the Republic. So while the Separatists would still have some droids, it wouldn't have been nearly to the same extent, while the Clone Army would be none existent. Interesting what would have happened in that case.

their army was not morally bankrupt. Only a few commanders and the droids on dookus direct leash were. Trench fought fair, umbarans fought fair, droids would offer clones FAR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT a chance to surrender to be POWs.

You have me sold

I'll never join you!!

Tactical unit AD-97 active and ready for deployment

Pustota7254 has joined dark side.

This is unsupported by any evidence but very likely as a necessary evil. To counteract the overwhelming and underhanded tactics of the republic (for example, Anakin abusing a parlé and attacking during a truce or the assassination of a CIS Senator), I'm sure the Parliament supported some of Grievous' more extreme measures as a necessary escalation. However, there were very likely many individual members of the Parliament who abhored his brutal ways but were powerless to act, due to their power being sidelined. Furthermore, the CIS had a strong hold on propaganda and it's very unlikely that many of the true attrocities were distributed to the Parliament and instead only known to members of the Separatist Council. As such, I'm sure Grievous was very likely seen as a war hero throughout the CIS, much as Anakin was in the Republic. However, in truth, both were actually being shaped into genocidal maniacs by the horrors of war.

to be fair so did the republic...

*Habitable* and *Innocent* Are you willfully stupid? Autocorrect should have saved you with both words.

yeah the council wasn't evil, just war profiteers and greedy.

@@matthiuskoenig3378 that’s why they’re evil

this is the only thing i could find on it: The FN P90 was a submachine gun manufactured by Oriolanis Defense Systems and used by the New Republic. not sure how valid this is though

Nice.

Oh, for fuck's sake

And literally Luger P08 next to it.

Han Solo uses a C96. And many soldiers (all sides I think) use a Sterling.

Dwarf Spider Droids and Crab Droids were always my favorite clankers

SimpleCloneTrooper my fav separatist vehicle is either the aat, mtt, trifighter, or hailfire droids

@@HerrZhukov Hyena Bombers are sick too

SimpleCloneTrooper ye. My fav navy ship is Providence. It’s my fav ship in all of Star Wars

Nathaniel Hill I always liked the destroyer droids :)

Mon Mothma did I would say.

@@Sleeper800 She was in the Senate during the Clone Wars era?

@@knivesmillions2913 She was the senator of Chandrila during the Clone Wars, yes. She appears in a deleted scene with Padme and Organa in Revenge of the Sith.

@@Sleeper800 I did not know that she was there during the clone wars I thought she was elected during the initial rise of the empire.

Bruh space p90