Hello everybody greeting from lagash . Thank you for your great work of revealing so much info to the public.

I love it when you quote the actual ancient texts, Cy. It really brings the people and their history to life.

Never heard of Urukagina's lawcode or Lugalzagesi before, fascinating!

I love ancient history and I recently discovered your channel. I really enjoy your videos and I find the format just about right: the length, the visual material and the choice of topics.

BTW, for all those that love Mesopotamian history, the Great Courses Plus has a really good one with about 15-20 lectures covering the whole history at a medium level of detail and does a couple deep dives. Mostly doesn’t get to the level of detail Cy does, which is why I LOVE his/hers vids so much. I have no affiliation with them and get nothing for mentioning them, just thought ya’ll might appreciate a mention of another - IMO, good “big picture” source of info. Definitely I appreciate the scholarship and attention to detail of Cy’s vids more.

Great job on this. Very entertaining.

amazing content. do you have some episode about Goebekli Tepe ?

Oh that's amazing. I'm really glad I found your channel!

Love this, thank you!!!

Loving these videos! Subscribed!

Wow loving the series and this vid is a real surprise. Subbed!

I've been so curious about Mesopotamia. Never see anything on KZfaq about it. I love how detailed you get. Thank you!

Maaaan, you really giving us a lot of good information about these ancient civilisations, It's somewhat hard to find good content on mesopotamian history and myths! Thanks, I subscribed also through my secondary account! You really deserve it!

This is fantastic. Your first videos were already great but you have improved markedly.

Dude, your content really just struck gold with me. Your unique way of speaking and commenting the events is really interesting. The edition on the videos is superbly good considering you are kind of a new and (no offense) small channel, your microphone quality is remarkably good aswell. I can just download your videos and listen them as Audiobooks or watch them as documentaries, i just love your content. Not to mention the historical precision on your videos. Also, not that much people really talk about these "obscure" bronze age kingdoms so yeah, i love your channel. Please keep up the good work. Personally, I would like for you to develop more on minoan and mycenean culture and the almost mythical artessos Kingdom. Vids on bronze age china would be great, but you do you.

Your presentations have gotten much better since you started. Your organization, story telling and readings have dramatically improved. Basic production value is solid on the latest presentations.

Hi Cy, I love you work, I found it to be amazing, comparatively with other channels dealing with history, particularly the bronze age, and ancient Mesopotamia. How did you reach such a level of detail, when everyone else is almost mentioning a date, a name or nothing

Your channel is exactly what I’ve been looking for. I love the ancient near east and I love that you do more than the broad overview of Mesopotamian history most channels do.

Trying to learn about this stuff is really confusing but thanks for your videos they really help a lot lol

I have two comments about this. I had heard about this conflict before, I knew about Lugalzagesi, but the way I heard about this part of his motivation for conquest was, maybe, vengeance against Lagash and what's why Lugalzagesi leave the destruction of Lagash for last. The order here is a bit different. The second is that I had the impression Lagash was kinda militaristic. Part of their wealthy came from hunting slaves from the mountains east to sell. In consequence of this they had a strong "army", which allowed them to campaign against the neighborhood. Which lead to the whole situation that made Lugalzagesi wish his "vengeance". I came here to watch this video and another one because I discovered about Urukagina. Made me think about "what if". They way I see Urukagina wanted to lead Lagash to a more pacifist and diplomatic way, but it was too late. Lugalzagasi was already in the way, opening the path that Sargon would take. I wonder if the reaction coming from Umma played a role in Lugalganda regime. Unable to profit from military campaigns in the region like before, to satisfy his nobles and to strengthen himself he turned against his own city.

5000 years ago.., interesting times.., the start of writing.., the solidifying of the city and sewer/ nation states .., the start of the brons age too ... although much of (proto)writing was put in stone .., nothing can be said with 100% certainty about this period . But it was the start .., the kick-off off our civilised world ! Thanks for the up load;) Greetings bibia. And can you do Gobleki tepi ?

I literally cannot stop watching this videos help me

Bellissimo, grazie tante!

Great work as always, you clearly know what you're talking about!

Yet another FABULOUS video, esteemed CY! You are the best, truly... BRAVO! However I had previously learned about the infamous Lugalzagezi. It appears that he did get what he deserved in the end. Also, if you do not object / mind, perhaps you should have described the horrors described in the Stele of the Vultures, for it is truly gruesome... The 20th century Nazis would have loved him :-)

Another excellent video. Feel a bit sorry for Lugalzegesi, defeats his bitter rival and establishes a vast kingdom. Must have thought to himself, 'My name will go down in history as a great king!'. Then Sargon shows up...

Wonderful video and great detail! Was Lagash ever rebuilt? Did it or any of its dependents become importent again? What happened to Umma? Umma seems to have faded from the histories after the capital was moved to Uruk... but I may just NOT know enough.

Are the locations of the city states known today? Every map of ancient sumer I can find seems to have a different arrangement for lagash, girsu and umma. And when I tried to plot them on Google maps, it placed the ruins of lagash much further south than on your map. Also it gave a different location for tell Al hiba although not too far. Is there a reason for this?

Excellent! Where can a beginner find more material for learning?

The marching phalanx seems to be a theme over time, as in the stele of vultures and the Yazilikaya sanctuary. The stele of vultures has six spears behind every full body shield. Who would have thought way back then?

Hh in my country there was a great nd popular comic in Wich lugalzagesi was a main antagonist xD so any who read that knew of him, great channel by the way, cy 1 lockdown 0

Hey cy, I've always had problems to understand this late period of Sumer. There are some sources that claim that Eanatum conquered all of Sumer, after he conquered Umma. There are others that claim that a king of the second dynasty of Uruk, Enshakushana, did the same before. Can you answer to this? It really confuses me.

A great documentary, thank you. Makes me wonder because both Gu'edena (Eden?) and Ur are associated to the obscure origins of the ancient Hebrews. Were they originally refugees from these conflicts, migrating to Canaan and clashing there with the Canaanite beliefs as expressed in the legend of Abraham?

Need some hours long playlist Supercuts.

Bro Do a video about 1-Tulunids-Ikhshidids 2Aq Qoyunlu-Qara Qoyunlu 3-Qocho-Ganzhou Because there was no video about there in KZfaq 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Hey, loved the video! But I do have a question. I have read that Eannatum of lagash was the one who conquered all those lands and established the first empire in history, is that true?

I kept staring at that Lugalzagezi image on the old coin or seal ... and he looked just like a bearded 1980s mountain fighter of Afghanistan ... which I know is far away in time AND space, but there you have it ...

I've a request if you've ever come across it in your studies; Do you know what the Sumerians or Akkadians called the Persian Gulf? I've been doing a little research on the subject and I can't find anything on what it was called before the Persian Empire. Surely the Sumerians had a name for it and since the Akkadians actually conquered a lot of land around it, surely they had a name for it. If you don't know, no worries. I'm just wondering if you've ever come across any references since you're well researched on these topics. Peace.

Many people don’t realise Cy is the initials for “the great cutting yarn”. He’s humble tho and removed “the great”. Those of us familiar

Finally A worthy opponent Our battle will be legendary!

DId they use camels for trading? (You use the camel icons to symbolise trade)

Why are all these Archaeological treasures doing in Museums in NY, Paris and London???

There is another perspective to all of this, apparent war and diplomacy. The biologic one. We might see ourselves as the superior creatures but when push comes to shove, we will kill ourselves over resources but in more exquisite complex ways than bacteria for example but we are no different than it in this aspect. The theme of climate change and loss of arable land or potable water is a universal one i'd say. For example on the side of the maya, their wars, ferocity and societal collapse coincided with extensive periods of drought. This should not be confused with the perennial competition among city states, an almost sacred war for keeping the numbers in check, i'd say but i'm certain it's not the only explanation. The forest was not called a green desert for nothing, it is very hard to grow anything there and the maya surviving for so long by keeping a balance with nature and their numbers in check is astounding.

One more question, if cities continued trade among them even though fighting frequently, could we stipulate that a proportion of the population was acting independently of the upper class maybe who were minding their wars?

Is there a Crusader Kings mod for this ?

I wonder if the war between Umma and Lagash over Gu'edena was the origin story of the expulsion from the Biblical Garden of Eden? It is in the name "Gu'edena" and it was a coveted land over which the Sumerian god's watched over.

Love your videos. Lugalzagesi is still the first great sumerian king, not a stranger like Sargon :)

Urukagina: Ha! I have the control of so many cities of Sumer. Lugalzagezi: *defeats Urukagina * Ha! Now I have the control of so many cities of Sumer. Sargon: *YEET*

l.m from lraq

"Umma Thurman" it's all her fault

Ur is an pure Tamil word Ur means place or village common words use to mention.

lugal kinishe DOO DOO hehehehehehe xD

You can do everything right and still lose everything i guess

So the Sumerians couldn't get along with each other.

We should revive Sumerian language in Iraq.

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The birth of capitalism/imperialism

THE VESSLE STATE OF THE KUSHITES- (THE BIRD PEOPLE- THE FOLLOWERS OF THE FALCON KINGS), KNOWN AS (THE BLACK HEADS)! THAT MOVED UP INTO SOUTHEAST ASIA-(INDIA) AS (THE NAGA)! (AMEN)

"Kinishi-Dudu" Caca

Sumerian were black