Awesome. Details will be on Discord first most likely.

Thanks Chris. Appreciate the kind words. No nonsense no drama is name of the game. It takes longer to grow like that but you also end up with a more solid grounded community. Cheers

You're absolutely Right! @@HighVoltageKits

It will be very interesting how it develops. The reduction ratio makes quite a difference. I will try and do some videos on taking various parts of it apart as the internals are a bit different to the BBSHD especially the sprag clutch area.

I'm considering either DM01 or TSDZ8 for my next project so your comment helps. Especially because it's from someone coming from Tsdz2. Cheers!

Thanks for the feedback. Part of what made the Tongsheng TS smooth was the refining by the community so that is something I would like to see with this as well.

Cheers. Weather permitting I'll get some more footage.

Yeah. A 60 volt battery should work great. Your enthusiasm is greatly appreciated. Hopefully by the time you are built with the motor we make further progress with the torque sensor.

Yeah. I hope its reliable. Only time will tell that one. The internals do look well made.

My shit city has stop sign almost every damn block. sucks for shifting. sucks for enjoying the ride. saving up for the hv kit to go 1:1 gear ratio.

Cheers mate. Its Cap C who does the videos. Greg tuned the motor for sure. It's a team effort 100% Cheers

The DM-01 is quieter, its the same to fit but has a better chainline. Reliability is only a matter of time.. bafang are abandoning the diy market. They will only do one more motor then that's it.

Yeah the BBSHD ticks those boxes. I found the DMO1 pretty easy to fit. I did make some suggestions with regards to the lockring pattern and tool. Reliability is a reputation that's earned! I hope it is!

Thanks. At the end of the day we are enthusiasts. The money we make let's us spend more time and further build the community. Great to have you as part of it. Cheers

Thanks Colin!

Thanks Colin. Appreciated

I hope it stands up to the rigors of life at high power. Cause being able to ride at 750 watts and then just let rip at 72 volts is really awesome.

The grades on here are 8-10% (about 1/3 of the way in and also towards the end) but I will get some more footage with some proper speeds when I can. Weather and safety permitting as well. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6iPlZiq0ZvRgY0.html

Sounds good. Still working on the torque sensor. Cheers

Love to see some build photos on discord

@@HighVoltageKits I can do that. What section should I put them in?

The best thing is to join our discord community where you can post photos of the frame and get really good advice from hundreds of people. I realise it might be a bit intimidating with an app etc but its well worth it. You can start a build thread and chose as there are quite a few options. The links are in the description.

I will do some more direct comparisons for sure.

there is none. BBSHD wins by default, bro.

Yeah. A slight wider range cassette than I have would be advantageous.

@@HighVoltageKits If you want, I can alwys send on discord the ink of the chain kit I use (11-46 as well).

That's what I hope. It's done enough to make me dream. There are some IFs though. Lots of work remains.

And then, if it fits the bill, we need to make sure the company stays afloat.

Cheers. I am not 100% is the honest answer on the tension. The gear I am in most of the time at the back is a 28t The biggest is a 32t. I would like to have something a bit more balanced. No more concern than with the BBSHD really. I mean at higher power things move faster and thus wear faster but I did not burn through chains on the BBSHD so I don't expect to here. I will monitor things though. The BBSHD is an awesome motor and if this pans out even 75% of that with a torque sensor I think it will be worthwhile. You are welcome on our discord and you can upgrade anytime you want. Maybe this will be a proven motor by then. Cheers

I’ll bump up the watts this year and see how it does

@@HighVoltageKits I’m really looking forward to this thanks. 🙏

You all good mate.

@@HighVoltageKits just very excited, pardon me

It should have plenty of up hill torque. I still have a video where I do some steep climbing of up to about 20% I will upload it as soon as I get chance to edit it.

Do they make one wide enough to fit a fat bike?

The widest is 110mm so potentially. I'm not sure it will work with the fatboy frame. I use the 120mm bbshd on mine. It's funny we are the opposite. I'd probably use the pedal assist more about town till I get to the offroad part.

@@HighVoltageKitswhere I live I need to keep up with traffic on some narrow roads before I get to the bike trail. Oh and there is this one hill that is so steep that I only can barely ride up it without walking part of it. It’s so steep that when going down that same hill my fatboy will hit speeds over 30mph 😳

Yeah an ebike will help with that for sure. I was pulling my kids in a trailer on the fatbike before I got the BBSHD. I was beat after about 5kms! Never looked back.

Thats a good question. Based on my interactions the company is well established in the hub motor market with many products. These are their first mid-drives. But by the sounds of it they are serious about them. So I am pretty confident parts will be available although until the dealer network is fleshed out it might be a case of getting them sent directly. I am hopeful they will be robust like the BBSHD and not need much repair or infrequent anyway. Early days though. I will ask some questions on parts and see what the situation is.

Toseven will send out parts to anyone who needs them.

I wouldn't worry too much about parts, To7 is a well established company. Their backup and support to their DM01 early user base has been excellent

It's pretty close with the chainline. I was able to hit the biggest gear on a 10 spd cassette. I think 5 or 6 is really all that's needed with this though. Ideally an igh that can handle the torque but non exist at reasonable price.

@@HighVoltageKitsThe IGH would be nice. I was concerned about the Torque my self. Any way you can lower the Torque in the settings? I want to do a DM02 on a 8 speed Nexus IGH.

Its the cane creek thudbuster

Thanks

This is so intriguing. I thought the Photon was the answer until I saw the bottom bracket interference and then the phase wire issue. Thank you for your honest reporting and in depth analysis. They may still be a contender someday but they need to get their quality under control quickly. This Two Seven has even more potential. I too want an assist motor to extend the range by pedaling and give me the excercise I want (need), but there are roads here where huffing up a hill below 10mph is just not safe. I would rather power through these parts regardless of legality. I'll be following your progress closely. Thank you for the great work and videos.

​@joehazel612 You are welcome. I'll have plenty more video to come.

Yeah. I will get some more footage weather allowing. The GPS messed up. It holds 50-55kph up the hills and blows past 60kph with ease on the flat. Its fast enough to put me at risk in these areas so might have to wait till spring to get a true fix on it.

They pull you back in! :)

Its never done lol

@@HighVoltageKits just don't tell my wife I'm going to convert my BBSHV into TSHV...

​@@Fire-Man_Daveloose lips sink ships 😆 I heard nuttin

I can explain it to you, but I can’t make you understand.

This is some weird energy. I want this exact setup he's showcasing on the dm01. Not everyone feels the way you do bud...

Clearly it does not appeal to you mate. Thats cool. Glad you don't mince your words and say what you mean. I am not sure how many people you speak for though. Lots of people struggle with normal bikes for exercise. For them having an ebike means they can exercise. Where I live the idea of riding a regular bike around town with 10% grades everywhere is just soul destroying. But with an ebike you can be very precise about the level of exertion. If its 30 out and I don't have to work about over cooking it as I can up the pedal assist. With this you can do that and go for a crazy rip all on the same bike at 3000+ watts. With that 750 watts you can greatly extend your usable range. For me that would be ride through town with the pedal assist out to the outskirts and then ride at higher power. In terms of the BBSHD and the 1:1... you do lose that. So if that is exactly what you want then that's exactly what you want. That's your ideal electric bike. But my Holy Grail going back to when I first started doing this stuff with the NXT was to make PAS more functional as well as being able to deliver at higher power.

Why use a mid drive if you want 1:1 ratio? The whole point of mid drive disseapear

You need to be more respectful in your posts. Your language is unacceptable. If I was the moderator of this channel you would be banned. My 2 cents.

i don't get it. you wouldnt peddle a car. i like peddling, but i dont enjoy peddling a 70lb bike. I live in a hilly area too, hence why I use a throttle. Anyway i hope they go out of business for being yet another company making 750w soy motors. If i wanted 750w, I'd get a prebuilt. @@HighVoltageKits