Yes please. I know it's been 10 month, but this was so good. Maybe when all of the ideal Skyrim videos will be done, FudgeMuppet could do a "Ideal Morrowind" video and a "Ideal Oblivion" video. That would be great

Dew it

I'm planning on doing just that.

@@fumarc4501 where is it

@@ximthedespot4673 Keep us posted on the progress.

Yeah, but it's more like smoke and mirrors. It may be visually and thematically impressive, but the dragons were basically a nuisance not really a threat.

I actually found the un-scripted dragon battles to be fairly repetitive and boring in 2011. Dragons are not mooks. They should not become throw-a-way monsters

@@krim7 I think they were made as random encounters to make you feel like badass who can take down a dragon whenever needed. If they just stuck to the couple dragons that show up during the story you wouldn't have felt the sensation of becoming more powerful over time that you have as you kill the randomly encountered dragons. However I do agree that they made dragons feel less special.

Amen 🙌

@@discordedwhoofs7873 Watch Gopher's play-through of Skyrim Special Edition. He has a mod that makes every dragon battle epic and difficult. His Lenny can only deal with them if he has half an army to assist him, like at the Western Watch Tower. Even then the casualties in Solitude were staggering - hardly a guard left alive and several merchants dead.

A shrine to talos is outside the city

@@younggrasshopper3531 That's a shrine to a single deity, I'm talking having a temple dedicated to multiple nordic deities such as: Kyne, Shor, Alduin, etc.

@Rose's Zen Garden I feel like that's Bethesda's fault as they in general underused the nordic pantheon.

@Rose's Zen Garden I think that's the point. The Nordic Pantheon is largely underutilized and simply reduced to "imperial pantheon but with a few extra blokes" in the actual game

@Bloo Berri talos is an imperial diety and not of Nordic origin specifically

I was just as disappointed when Oblivion took the Vvardenfell Imperial cult, which lore SAID wasn't a thing that was present in Cyrodiil, the Divines' faithful usually splinter into factions and each county had their own chapel and culture... And then come Oblivion, not even 10 years later, and the only conflict there is is that one lady who wrote the books being all superior about her deity's city, and that is IT. Where's the cults? Why couldn't I get MORE about the Eight-And-One from the Knights of the Nine, again??? like c'mon, Todd, your lore sucks, leave the lore to the big boys like MK or the Battlespire main dev/programmer or go back to filing off the D&D serial numbers, don't make it GENERIC high fantasy!

@@neoqwerty hit the nail on the head there, Todd just sucks and should let the real storytellers do their thing

@@neoqwerty Yes, generic is a great way to describe the overall lore presentation. Specific on present. Books and statues are filled to the brim but the WORLD is empty

Many of them are the divines by different names

@@neoqwerty You do know they brought MK back for KotN, right? He was part of the creative process, blame him for not writing more about the Eight and One

I like that

I was just telling my wife last night they needed to lean harder into the haunted forest thing around morthal. Give me a whispering trees vibe, play with the lighting through the trees to make me think someone's following me granted this doesn't work with the compass and map but it would be awesome to have an area that disoriented you so bad you kept getting lost until it was night fall and now you're in danger.

Maybe the Agronians that live there planted a Hist sappling in the swamp. The Dunmer could be at odds with the Agonians as well about the Hist and want revenge for the invasion of Morrowwind. The Nords under Ravencone could act as a neutral barely keeping a lid on violence not taking sides. This also saves the Nords vs Dunmer stuff in Windhelm from be rehashed.

@@chaosspartan4417 That be so cool

You say vampires tearing you apart, i say sanguine vampirus farming location

Gelebor was a missed opportunity to have a unique follower. Not only in the fact that he was a snow elf, but also that he was a paladin, so restoration/warrior badass with master level skills. Make him as lively as Serana as well, moreso actually. It would also be interesting to see his commentary on how things have changed since the Nords took over. What would his reaction to the persecution of the Nords by way of the Thalmor be? Would it be contempt/schadenfreude? Or would it be regret/empathy with him seeing it as history repeating itself, only to end tragically? The quest for the Spear and Armor could've been a quest on its own like the Deathbrand Armor.

@@lazilycatharticone4191 Yeah, Gelebor was a huge missed opportunity. Yeah, I know he has his duty to the wayshrine and to protect the Chantry, but surely we could find a way to have something as important as the Snow Prince's belongings or other Falmer relics that would peak his interest. Plus, he now has the ultimate protection, a Dragonborn and a pure blooded vampire, so very little chance of getting killed and being the last of his race to die and render them Extinct.

These are quest items in the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod

@@jaketaz2848 Really? Is it on Xbox? Is it a good mod? Like, the spear mechanics, are they good?

The Nereverine has the Snow Princes armour.

That’s actually a great suggestion. I found it kind of baffling that he would side with the Imperials over the Stormcloaks.

Why do that when Ulfric will attack Whiterun anyways to get war control zones

@@randyjax09 he's not racists it's that easy everyone

@@randyjax09 Balgruuf’s best friend/housecarl, Irileth, is a dark elf and stormcloaks hate elves. Even if he still worships Talos, Alvor (the riverwood blacksmith) mentioned that before the rebellion started the Talos worship ban wasn’t really enforced so siding with the empire was probably an easy choice for Balgruuf

@@lizziekiser6218 correction, Ulfric does not hate elves, he distrusts them. Why would he trust someone that never did anything to gain his trust. Heck, its like expecting Balgruuf to allow the Alik'r warriors in the town to "not be racist". Plus, I doubt Ulfric cares about what the other jarls bring to their court. As far as I remember the steward in Falkreath is an elf regardless of allegiance. Edit: Upon rereading the lore, Nenya was ex-steward, before she left Dengeir for Siddgeir. It was Malur Seloth that was steward in Winterhold under Stormcloaks.

@@themanwithtomanyeyes8282 Talos wasn't a god like the Divines though, pretending he was is nonsense. He was no different than the Tribunal or Dagoth Ur. Also what OP said is bs anyway, all the Elven gods are believed to be Elves who ascended from a previous kalpa. So the Thalmor (and most High Elves) view the Divines as their ancestors. Therefore, the 'quote' OP used to summarize them isn't remotely the case in universe.

@@LordVader1094 Well, some of the Elven Divines were also Aldmer who ascended in this current Kalpa. Like Syrabane and Phynaster Some like Xarxes are debated, was he an Aldmeri shopkeeper who attained divinity, or was he always an Et'Ada, always at Auriel's side since the Dawn of the Aurbis.

@@LordVader1094 somebody clearly didn't play the Knights of the Nine DLC for Oblivion. In order to progress thru the quest u need blessings from all the aedra/nine divines which includes Talos

But don't they believe that it happened to Auri'El, a high elf?

@@danielbob2628 Auri-El was always a god in their eyes. The high elves also believed they were all originally gods, who were turned mortal by being trapped on Mundus by Lorkhan. So when they say “hasn’t happened to a high elf,” they mean they haven’t returned to divinity.

they live a long live. for them time has another scale (badumtss)

More like WW1, which is more than 100 years ago. And its consequences have ruined Europe and gave China and America a chance at being a world power

@@perverse_ince Argonian invasion happens in the 6th year of the 4th era. The events of Skyrim happen in the 201st year. That is 195 year difference. Now that I think about it even the Napoleonic Wars are too recent an example.

@Sanguine You don't need new tech to rebuild. It makes sense that Merish reproductive rates would slow the process, and probably means Elves are doomed as a species. And good point about real wolrd ethnicities not recovering aswell, I'd say that is due to modernity overlapping with passed events. Like the population of Ireland never recovered after the Famine because by that time modernity reduced birth rates.

Well we do. Napoleon rewrote the map of Europe.

Yes. If I want to be a be-ringed noble, flaunting my wealth with armor, unique sword, and blindingly dazzling set of rings….. Godd Howard says absolutely not!

Yeah, I would be happy with the Morrowind armor and clothing system in Skyrim. Amulet, two rings, clothes, several armor pieces, AND a robe.

I wanted to do a shirtless warrior

@@tuffin6275 you sort of can, but you can only do it with fur armor and ragged trousers.

@@DelinquentChibi Exactly!

Honestly while I doubt there would be any oblivion gate ruins it would be cool to have like a family heirloom of someone's be like the orb you have to retrieve to shut the gates, tie it in with oblivion a bit. And maybe also use it as a reason why the nords hated the ban of Talos worship as it was a Septim that stopped the oblivion gate crisis. I wouldn't necessarily say that the cult would be that present in skyrim thiight

Bet that would have more of a presence in Cyradiil

@@fumarc4501 Of course, but some Imperial soldiers are from Cyrodiil (especially the higher-ups) and so at least some of them should be venerating The Last Septim as much as the Nine Divines, if not more. Also, by making the gap shorter there should be living veterans/witnesses of the Oblivion Crisis.

Carful what you ask for we might get Skyrim 2. I'd love to see what cyrodiil looks like during the events of skyrim.

@@SuperHigh09 I don't have to be careful about that, I know we will.

Seconded. Bring back half naked Barbarian berserkers!

5 years? How I wish I had your optimism.

Trust me i take notes on these kinds of videos

As if modders haven't been doing this since Adam. Where tf have you been? Lmfao.

all modders are busy with Beyond Skyrim

You are very optimistic. I really like following the Beyond Skyrim teams.

Would also provide the Argonian refugees an Alternative to Windhelm where they aren't even allowed in the city. Kinda surprised the Argonians were mentioned in the video.

@@JoeTheCynic well of course Scott would talk about Argonians, they're the best Dunmer gardening tools.

Having more reasons for Argonians to be in Skyrim would have been nice. They seem to be doing alright for themselves atm. Repulsed a Daedra invasion, occupying swaths of southern Morrowind, and successfully seceded from the Empire. Maybe some quests involving the Hist trying to expand their influence? They knew the Dragons were returning and wanted to take advantage of the chaos? Maybe a reason why Argonians are displaced is because they were forces from their homes for being too “Imperial” by the An-Xileel’s standards. In the novel “Infernal City,”one was a-okay with purging “assimilated Argonians” from Black Marsh with the help of a “rogue” Hist. Otherwise I don’t think Hist go out of their way to wipe out their own people/servants/children(?).

@@fumarc4501 Whats interesting about the Infernal City is that Bethesda, intentionally using Ysolda in Whiterun, alluded to the "Sleeping Tree" being a spore that "fell off a floating island from the sky years ago". Its possible that the tree producing "Sleeping tree sap" is a Daedric Hist tree, and so much more could've been done with it. Tbh, the Infernal City sounds like a much more interesting main plot for a game than "Alduin the World eater", in my opinion.

im biased, but i want this love for my marsh brothers and sisters. all we got was a hole in the wall

Shame AAA companies dont have soul. All this money just to make half assed research for even more half assed unfinished games

This Fianna thing sounds like something shared by many Indo European cultures, and reflected in their folklore: the Koryos. A ritual where young men of the tribe were sent out to be raiders and warriors attacking rival tribes and settlements, often painting their bodies black, white, or in other colors, and wearing animal furs, mainly wolves or dogs. It was a coming of age ceremony, and may have contributed to the spread of Indo European language and culture and genetics throughout Eurasia as these warriors settled in the lands they were raiding to create their own new tribes. The koryos is reflected in the Berserkers of the Norse and Germanic tribes, the Ephebos and Kryteria of the Athenians, the Norati of Armenia, raider groups dedicated to wolf gods in Vedic and Ossetic traditions, and more.

@@levongevorgyan6789 There are no wolf gods in the vedic pantheon.

@@levongevorgyan6789 Could be. There are some parts of different cultures that are very similar, despite being separated by thousands of miles and years. Using Ireland as an example again, because of the huge taboo around hospitality, if you wanted to protest an injustice against you, you can go on a hunger strike outside their home. Something similar might've happened in India as well until it was illegal in 1861, which shows there was a practice, or at least knowledge, of it

Yesss I want to rebuild as well hate it being ugly

A new challenger appears!

Skyrim is good though?

@@KelgorothTheFinalShape It’s not bad it’s just not as good as it could be.

@Steele D then you've come to the wrong place ;-P

@@KelgorothTheFinalShape It is good, that's why it won GoTY 2011, but Zaric's a pretentious snob. I don't even know why he posts TES videos when he thinks the series peaked with Daggerfall.

Yeah, for me after playing Skyrim I got into Oblivion & Morrowind aswell, wherein they portrayed it as so much cooler & more violent than it actually is. It’s like the boss as an enemy vs when you unlock him as a character lul

Oblivion and Morrowinds Nord and Skyrim Lore will always be more compelling than what we actually got in Skyrim, just like how Morrowinds description of Cyrodiils Geography will always be far more interesting than what we got in Oblivion

@@jaydenlobbe7911 Back when it was more like Ancient China’s geography?

It is a good idea. I like the basics of the Dragon Cult just the execution is very very bad in the game.

Thats a pretty good idea. As much as I like Fudgemuppet's video, I feel like taking out the dragons would hurt skyrim a bit. idk. Its been so long since skyrim was released that to imagine skyrim without dragons feels crazy

@@323starlight It can be done, but I don't know why it have to entirly, maybe making them a smaller part of the narrative a good idea.

@@varisugocsay1152 Maybe as DLC. Make the Dragonborn DLC all about the rise of the dragon cult and their goal of resurrecting the dragons

@@323starlight Oh yes, in the based game is just a little thing in the background as some dungeon have dragonic theme but then you have a whole DLC when this is the whole deal.

why is some senile old bat with dementia your favorite when Jarl's like Jarl Ballin exists?

why is some senile old woman with dementia your favorite when Jarl's like Jarl Ballin exists?

Sanguine classic Todd & Pete Hines .

A lot of garbage lmao

@@henrycrabs3497 You don't think FudgeMuppet's ideas are very good?

@@General12th no

@@henrycrabs3497 So what are you doing here? Just leaving a negative comment, then disappearing into the night?

Still good.

i listen to it to help me fall asleep i love it

Considering it is almost the same story in the beginning they should have credited him..

"What if Skyrim was Good?" if anyone wanted to search the video.

Way better though. A lot of Zhakaron's ideas were really gimmicy.

West Skyrim is also on the border of high rock, which is much more imperialised compared to morrowind in the East. it would make a lot of sense if riften, falkreath, markarth and solitude were Imperial; Windhelm, winterhold, and dawnstar were stormcloaks; and whiterun and morthal were both neutral

@@SA_Caine What would someone be if they considered Winterhold the true, _true_ capital?

What? The English Civil War wasn't north vs. south. None of Rome's many, many civil wars were north vs. south. There are innumerable cases of civil wars breaking out in states that were so small that any climate difference between north and south was negligible. This is a ridiculous assertion.

@@tbotalpha8133 war of the roses, north & south England were generally divided on who they supported from what I remember. Rome was a massive, whole other beast & had unique circumstances for their civil wars which is the exception, not the rule (with many of their civil wars being somewhat north/south based, that or the two factions so far away they might as well be north & south). Generally speaking almost every civil war throughout history where the warring sides weren’t divided by water or other lands was north & south based. All of yours & my reasons for why other civil wars aren’t between north & south do not apply to Skyrim, & as such proposing that it should be so is a perfectly fine assessment.

@@cykasoviet831 I am looking through Wikipedia's list of civil wars as I type this. So, so many of these wars were not north vs. south. Many of them didn't even have a clear axis, but instead multiple competing groups fighting in all directions. And even in the cases that they were north vs. south, many of them were happening in countries that were so small that there was no real difference in climate between the north and the south. And therefore no climate-driven difference in culture between the two regions. Furthermore, actually reading the listed causes of said wars, most of them were caused by political elites revolting against their overlords. Not because of cultural differences, but because of dynastic squabbling, legal disputes and succession crises. Your north/south climate-culture position is nonsense.

i'm seconding this. the games are classics but they're obviously not perfect

This must be done.

If I could have Morrowind but with Skyrim's gameplay and dungeons I'd explode with joy.

I think the point of this was that Skyrim was the one that needed the most lore changes.

@@wolfgangspiper no the only good thing abt morrowind is the unique gameplay features

I salute you first commenter

Pole arms - Many weapons mods add spear types and animations for them. I’m sure there’s one for pole arms out there. Flora and Fauna - There are some really beautiful retextured flora mods out there. There are some mods that add more animals but they feel janky as they’re reusing skeletons of other animals. More Mounts - Good Idea Better Artifacts - Zim’s, Royal Armory, Unique Uniques etc. Race Armors - Good Idea Religion - Wintersun More assets - Many mods add their own

@@jeffstut55 while these are all true, you can’t use mods to judge Skyrim. You have to go on what it is vanilla. That being said, wintersun is one of the best mods for this game. Really adds a lot to role playing.

Yep. I really wanted to see the Snow Prince's Armor and Spear on Solthsiem, definitely would've been cool to aquire, and perhaps gift to Gelebor for a proper stature with Falmer tradition

@@jeffstut55 if they remove maces from the next TES like they removed pole-arms, the exact argument you made could be used as a justification. Same with war-hammers too, they're basically slower battle-axes in game. There's no real difference between a Sword, Axe, or Mace other than aesthetic and swing speed. Same with Two-handed weapons. These weapons exist to give the player variety, nothing more. Adding more options only enhances the experience and compliments their mission statement "be who you want, play how you want in a vast open world"

@@thalmoragent9344 honestly a whole snow elf saga should have been a dlc after the dawnguard dlc. Imagine if they were all hiding in forgotten chantries and took over a city. Probably winterhold due to their connection to the eye of Magnus and magic, you could have the town invaded by the falmer sensing the residual power of the eye and as they are about to overwhelm the college of winterhold the snowelves show up, clap some cheeks and claim the city as their now capital, then you can either crush them or help them rebuild the town, maybe some added bonuses if you're the arch mage. Either way they should have been way more thoroughly explored. Or atleast there should have been a contingent of them hiding on solsthiem maybe ironically protected by the skaal.

YES!

Yeah, it certainly seems like there would be a way to keep the monster in the game without the lore of "They're returning because Alduin is trying to destroy the world." That dragons are returning is very cool. I want a better reason for it than that, however.

@@BillWiltfong(Note that this is written before finishing the video, I might mention something already said) Imagine if you will, Delphine was already suspicious of Thalmor agents being behind the return of the dragons. She seemed convinced. What if, considering the Thalmor-centric plotline proposed, Delphine is still a large character in the game. She simply plucks you out of the crowd after you defeat Mirmulnir, and recruits your help to discover if/how the Thalmor are doing this. The Blades will reform to assume their role again as dragonslayers, but also with a small scale team you work with. This would include Delphine and Esbern, working to cut off the branch of Thalmor responsible for the Dragons. This would give the player the option of stopping the wild dragon encounters by completing this line of quests and vanquishing this group.

Ordinator Perks of skyrim. In the beginning it looks bloated and exaggerated. However it feels so right in game

This is exactly what I commented on yesterday's podcast. Skill levels should be for scaling, and perks should be for augmenting playstyle. None of this "10% better deals" or "fear spells work on higher level enemies" bull crap. If I have 100 in Destruction then my flames spell should reflect that, not that I bought the requisite perks. Leave stuff like bribing guards, ice spells causing paralysis, stealth rolling, and axes causing bleed to the perks.

Well enai mods already do this

If that annoys you Skyrim Requiem may be for you

@@alexjones2004 I'm on PS4, though.

Shor or his more common name Lorkhan are not necessarily Talos right? The Cyrodilic Pantheon had a representation of him in the traditional pantheon which was the 9th divine or the "missing god" how they called him.. Talos technically would be the 10th divine by that logic because he is weird combination of the demi-god Ysmir Wulfharth, Hjalti Early-Beard and Surin Arctus Or am I wrong here? I always thought what Talos did to him was similiar as to what Sheogorath did to Jyggalag.. He stilll exists, he is just a shell of what he used to be..

Or even Ysmir lmao.

Nords: k we will worship Shor instead. The Thalmor: H A L T

@@martijnkwant5314 i thought that talos had mantled lorkhan correct me if i'm wrong

The Aldmeri Dominion ain’t keen on Shor worship either. Shor and Talos are just two sides of the same coin that is Lorkhan-which the Aldmeri Dominion see as the original enemy to all Elvenkind.

I imagine Ancano in this new Skyrim is just as much a haughty agent of the Thalmor as in the original, but he is ostracized and avoided because of the college’s traditionalist veil. And it’s getting to him. He holds up well on the surface and understands the skin-deep nature of the religion, but studious players can see the signs. At other Thalmor locations, you find messages and reports from Ancano, and they are unremarkable. He is prim, proper, and to the point, his words even lacking the usual drips of disdain for those he deals with. These are from before he arrived at the College, before his promotion after a previous successful mission. Within the Thalmor Embassy, in a locked room you can easily miss entirely, you find a set of reports similar to the ones on Esbern and Ulfric, detailing many more people the Thalmor are watching. The section devoted to the College is lacking, seemingly half-finished as they await Ancano’s reports. What few are there are distinctly different from prior writings. He is still proper, but he clearly dislikes those he’s reporting on. In the college itself, the signs are easier to spot. His quarters are at the end of a hallway, past several unoccupied rooms. Students and teachers are programmed to not sit directly next to him and some of the Nords will even cease conversation and remain silent when he comes near, waiting for him to get a certain distance away before resuming. As for the mer himself, he is a mess. He’s visibly aged despite being fairly young (and an elf), he keeps three daggers on himself for fear of attack, and Drevis Neloren is wearing his boots. He talks to few people, mainly Tolfdir and what few teachers will have him, but even they seem distant. He keeps strange hours, sleeping for only 2 or 3 hours at a time on a slightly randomized schedule. He can often be found alone in the library or on the roof stargazing. Talking to him nets you a cordial, if slightly stilted, greeting and a polite reminder that he is a busy man. Asking what he is doing here, what he is studying, and what he thinks of the school all net you simple, clearly rehearsed responses. The only way you get him to open up is asking about Summerset, which prompts a short reverie over his home before he regains his composure. If you stay hidden, you’ll hear him mumbling about dreams and magic, or repeating what sound like lines from an instruction manual or tutor he once learned from. Other than that, he mentions “showing these weaklings true magic” and “proving myself to her”, among other things. Standing outside his door or remaining hidden in his room will reveal he talks to himself constantly as he writes, only stopping when he eats, reads, or sleeps. His quarters are heavily secured. His door has two locks, one a standard door lock and the other a deadbolt he bars the door with whenever he is inside. The security doesn’t end there, as a tripwire just past the door will lift the cover off of a soul gem trap if tripped. Alternatively, his window can be opened from outside with some deft platforming (and perhaps levitation magic). The room is a mess of old papers and strewn books. He is clearly eating meals in here frequently and the focus of the room, his desk, is a morass of scribblings and notes. These are his reports, prior to edits and formatting that clean up the ones Elenwen receives. The vitriol is palpable, and a few notes were seemingly so unhinged he scribbled them out. A lit candle on a plate covered in ash suggests what he does when his anger gets the better of his writing. A few people have specific views on Ancano. Tolfdir (now archmage-equivalent) will remark that he provides a unique viewpoint, being from the opposite side of the map. Urag gro-Shub is cautiously dismissive of him, calling him "too young for his station, too dumb for his knowledge". Overall, most of students seem uninterested or amused by Ancano, although a few are fearful of what he represents. I've already rambled far longer than I intended to. TL;DR- Ancano is cracking under the college's ostracism and has become paranoid. He subconsciously seeks to prove himself to the students and teachers, even as they fear, despise, or laugh at him. He subconsciously seeks to prove himself to the college, even to the detriment of his mission there, and has become his own worst enemy.

@@pretzelbomb6105 It is pretty interesting, if they give us the chance to side with the Thalmor or at least with Ancano it can be even more interesting.

@@pretzelbomb6105 ok

AND how would the Jarl of Dawnstar express his opinions of Windhelm taking in refugees?

So vampires?

I mean thats one elderscroll far to being canon

I’d like the Companions split three ways. The main faction of knight barbarians, the off shoot that fancies themselves werewolves, and the silverhand which is a splinter of the main faction that feel it is their duty to take out their misguided werewolf brethren, and all sides would be joinable.

@@Etticos. you… you I like.

@@Etticos. Now this. This, I can get behind.

@@Etticos. Counter proposal: you can't actually join the knight barbarians because they're veterans and high ranking, but depending on who you join and what choices you make you can end up becoming a part of them

@@Ghilannugs Like a Vikings Swiss Guard?

I’d keep dragons as well. But I’d make one change. I’d make the Thu’um and Shouts an invention of the Atmorens, however you spell the original name of the Nords. Because let’s face it, until the Dragon War dragons didn’t need 3-4 word shouts. They could just speak a sentence and breath fire or frost or whatever. And learning the dragon language is instinctive for them. Non-dragons on the other hand have to actively practice and meditate on a single word just to use it in a shout. So why wouldn’t the rebels have invented the Thu’um.

Thu’um as an imitation of Dragon Speak would be a cool way to distinguish the two from standard magic. Would make using the Thu’um less impactful, but the Greybeards would be the experts to tell who is and who isn’t the True Dragonborn.

I think you could merge them. Don't the Thalmor want a perfect, formless world? Alduin is the destroyer of worlds so that a new one can be created. Perhaps the Thalmor try to summon (perhaps succeed) im summoning Alduin and try to make him eat the world so their perfect world can come to pass. An epic battle with Alduin could still be the final battle in this case.

I agree, and at the same time I find it so strange. I remember when I was young playing Oblivion, one of the loading screens was a shrine to Peryite (I think, if I am remembering correctly), though I didn’t know it at the time and I thought it was a real dragon, and thought dragons were just super rare in the game, perhaps there was only one. So I would adventure, exploring all the caves and ruins thinking to myself that one day I’d finally find the hidden dragon and battle it. Eventually I found out that there were no dragons, and when I first saw the preview for Skyrim I was so excited for it.

@@Etticos. In the lore prior to _Skyrim's_ release, dragons had not gone extinct and were still around. In fact, in _Redguard_ (a game that came out in between _Daggerfall_ and _Morrowind,_ and was Todd Howard's first Elder Scrolls game as lead) the player, Cyrus, confronts Nafaalilargus, a red dragon that served Tiber Septim. And the Dragon Cult did exist in a sense, but really in the way it is depicted in _Skyrim._ Dragons were revered in the Nords' earlier, more animalistic and totemic religious expression still preserved by the Skaal. The dragons were understood as representative of Alduin, who _was_ the Nordic aspect of Akatosh.

A long dead secret society of Dragon Worshippers living among the people of Skyrim from AFTER the times of Ysgramor would have made them far more interesting. Placing the interred bodies of Dragon Priest in ancient Nord crypts in secret, recruiting new cultists by taking advantage of the recent civil war unrest. All this in preparations for the return of the Dragons. Maybe a good mix of the Mythic Dawn fanatics in Oblivion and the Dreamers thralled by the Blight from House Dagoth in Morrowind. Would have been way more interesting. Even if they were un-joinable.

@@fumarc4501 Could even use the assets for Miraak's Cultists for the Dragon Cult.

@@Etticos. I think dragons would be more epic in Skyrim if we only encountered the named Dragons like Alduin and Parthunax rather than dozens of nameless dragons that interrupt our adventuring.

Yea when taking into account the lore from the Thalmor, Sybille talking about how the king was a huge fan of Ulfric and would have listened to him seriously, and just his behavior as Jarl… He is just so unlikable for me. I know he’s a war hero, not meant to be particularly likable, instead respectable but… even that can only go so far.

@@queennamirivythorn2040 Tullius isn't that likable but he's far less of a piece of shit. Ulfric has too much of an ego to be respectable.

i think this was intentional - if their leader wasn’t an asshat, i think most players would side with the stormcloaks as good rebels vs big empire is something that most people seem to enjoy

@@itspfaff especially with the whole imperials try to kill you at the start of the game thing.

I mean if you'd have went through the stuff that he's went through in his life prior to the beginning of the game you'd probably be more of an asshole I mean I know my bias is to the stormcloaks but man he went through a lot

Coming back to this vid again, I now wish this was the Skyrim game, it's sooooo much more interesting than the one we got. Oh well

Check out Zhakaron's "what if oblivion was good"

@@Tbonedoesfsx I did, thanks for the recommendation. Was a great video

Oblivion should have stuck to the old Imperial lore of Cyrodiil being a jungle and showcasing the Imperials cultural diversity a lot more. Have the Colovian estates in north western be like the cyrodiil we got with the cosmopolitan Europe feel while further south along the Nibin we see the more pagenistic and reclusive culture of the Nibinese. North Western Cyrodiil should have felt wealthy, technologically advanced and cosmopolitan. There we would clearly see the divide between the wealthy and the poor and we could see what the flow of information between the provinces has done for the development of new technology. There in north western Cyrodiil we can find steam engines, black powder weapons and a heavy focus on science and the arts. Basically, North western Cyrodiil should feel like renaissance Europe with the problems that come with it. To the south along the Nibine is where we get the more ancient, magical feel that shows us what the ancient Imperials were/are like. Here, people are still using things from the 1st era like hoplite shields, spears and more primitive style weapons. They have a deep fascination for the stars like their Nedic ancestors and actually are able to construct the starlight wells the Aylids invented. However the people of this land are much poorer and highly xenophobic towards non-humans. The dense jungles of this part of Cyrodiil make it much harder to create the complex societies then further north, meaning the people here are isolated and poorer, generally sticking to semi-autonomous lordships instead of the central Imperial government.

Unfortunately you’d have to almost make a brand new game for most of this stuff.

Well, of anyone needs mediocre va work i'm available

I agree 100%

Talos is the empire god, not the main nord god

@@travus111 The nords think talos is of nordic orignin, so they see him as the nord ruler of tamriel...

@@jesse2535 because of skyrim retcon lore

@@travus111 yep and what's wrong with that? this series is full of retcones in every game one way or another.

I just hope Bethesda actually watches these things man 😅

This was just a theory vid

Maybe if some had the Thu’um?

Though I recognize they are 2 different games I think they should REALLY take some inspo from Dragon Age as well. The thing those game really nails downs is characters. Characters you love, characters you hate, character you hate AND love. Characters that you mourn for, characters that make you cry. Just characters, characters, characters. In the end the best thing about any story is people (and animals heh), so if they continue fleshing out companions and other characters like they did in Fallout 4 I think they can get a real good game. I mean just imagine how much more fun it would be to explore caves if your companions not only commented more on things you do, but interacted with it. Got excited when you neared a cave. You bring a hunter companion and they give tips on tracks to a potential bear cave nearby. A thief companion points out targets that "for sure are carrying around a lot of septims". A bard or scholar excitedly writing down things you come across. There is SO much potential

@@Ghilannugs Better writing in dialogue/conversations can sell an otherwise poor story/bad retconed lore becasue they sell it to you in a way that makes you buy it. Bethesda however only have quest/level designers acting as writers. back in daggerfall and morrowind they had writers as desginers. Thats why they had the best stories.

I think the dialogue in ESO is way better than Skyrim’s. But then it’s easier to do more with an online game.

@@Ghilannugs dragon age, and to an extent the current ESO made me hate skyrim's dragons. The dragons in ESO are way bigger than what they were in Skyrim, and while I don't think they need to be as big as what was in dragon age, it would have made one hell of a fight.

@@dfg3179 Imagine if we had to go to every region in Skyrim to fight different elemental dragons. In the swampy lands between Riften and Windhelm we fight a lightning dragon that electrifies any water you stand in, paralyzing and damaging you. High on top of a mountain covered in snow you walk towards what you think is just a bunch of snow covered rocks, but then you see just the slightest movement. "Who dares walk upon my mountain? Answer fast or become a part of my ice statues"

For a game whose entire core conflict is based on racial tensions, yes.

This entire video was basically a copypasta from other Lore videos..

Definitely ESO.

I wish ESO was just a bit better man. I want to like the game so much but I just can't. The rewriting of the lore and additions that were never mentioned in previous games feels like fan fiction and I can't get used to the way the game plays

@@sandoh me too, I really do. Elder Scrolls is probably my favorite fictional world, so the idea of being able to travel Tamriel with my brother and friends was always a dream to me. But I can’t stand how World of Warcraft it is.

@@Etticos. honestly at this point I wouldn't mind if it played like world of warcraft because then it'd actually have a direction instead of this awkward catch all that doesnt really excel at anything. I like MMOs and I like single player RPGs. I feel ESO tries to do both at the same time and makes it feel kinda mediocre all around.

@@sandoh one of the things I really dislike about ESO is the way the skills work. Like having a bar of various skills really annoys me for some reason especially with the amount of extra icons it adds to the screen, where as with Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc there a minimal HUD. I don’t know, that may be a stupid opinion. Additionally to how I dislike how the skills look, I also dislike the function. For some reason the implementation of the skills just really kills immersion for me and makes it feel too “game-y”. Ugh, I could go all day with the issues I have with ESO.

In academia we would call this plagiarism ;)

That is exactly what this video made me want to do. I’m wrapping up my latest campaign soon, and this is something that I found really inspiring.

i also want more titty rpg

The thalmor were the real enemies no matter who you sided with stormcloaks or empire, heck even the dragons weren't as big of a threat overall. If it wasn't for all the random crap missions delphine makes you do the dragon threat could be handled in maybe 3 hours. The blades being dragon hunters was cool but at the same time doesn't make sense, the empire isn't based in skyrim so how did the blades magically become the bodyguards of the emperor?

Honestky there should have been two main plots one being the civil war quest line that had the thalmor be the actual antagonist and depending who you side with you either straight up attack the embassy or you sneak in under the guide of an ambassador. And then you keep the dragon quest line of defeating alduin along with the dragon cult stuff as Imo the dragon cult isn't that bad of a "retcon" or break the lore as I see it they came over after the eradication of the snow elves and perhaps where only there a short time as people may have been getting fed up before the move from atmora, and then the dragon cult is sort of then forgotten about as all the other historical stuff happens, like it's history stuff like that just gets forgotten about

Yess!! The underwater life was so lacking, like a ghost town, just barren

@@miniespeon158 yes let's add underwater enemies that we can't fight ! seriously slaughterfish have such an annoying AI, wouldn't be an issue with underwater combat

"The Pirates of Tamriel". 🔥

okay but not everything in the world has to be perfect. they made an amazing game that many people still invest so many hours into. Bethesda isn't run by superhumans though, there are obviously gonna be some technical limitations, deadlines, tough decisions, etc. i find it so weird that you have such a beautiful game filled with so much lore and thought put into it but people still manage to complain so much about it. and when i say complain i'm not talking about stuff like this video which was an interesting thought experiment and just him offering up some good suggestions, i'm talking about basement dwellers like you who see a project that has so much and cries that it's not enough. no offence.

@@alexjulia4870 I know. I don't grieve for what we have, but for what we could have had.

@@Bimmerboybobby Ok

@@Bimmerboybobby literally

I think it’s important to keep in mind that this game came out when the Xbox 360 was the current gen and all the limitations that come with that. Furthermore, Oblivion was also released on the 360 and seeing the jump in fidelity could not have been an easy feat. Hindsight is 20/20

Yeah, my enjoyment of Skyrim was more about what it could be and how it ignited my imagination than what it was.

Maybe they should just make smaller games with smaller scopes so they can focus more and disappoint less. Glad they're taking their time with ES6.

@@kevgmei Cope harder, bethesda haven't made a single good game for 10 years. What makes you think this time will be any different?

@@odiihinia So you mean their last good game was Skyrim lol?

@@lorem_ipsum_xvi Try making your own universe with the things that inspire you about game literature and game lore then bro I've started work on projects to hopefully tell a story fully imagined and properly realised in a game for the player to explore, as everyone here can agree needs to happen for TES' potential vs its reality

Yep, Orcs would probably be the third largest group along side Redgaurds and Bretons in Markarth behind the Nord and Reachmen majority. The Orcs have lived in the Reach just as long as the Reachmen have and have warred with each other in the past and both races have been looked down upon by others to. So thier would be a interesting dynamic between them and the Reachmen. Some Orcs might be sympathetic to them, being fellow outcasts, while other might still hold grudges against them for the wars they have fought in the past for the Reach.