stop shitting on euphoria! its popular! you didnt watch it! clearly u wrong !

😅😮😅 1:30:49 😮😮

And said by NO woman ever. I’ve seen numerous clips of that scene and each time I’m like W.T.F.

That was the writers copying thier homework from Netflix's Insatiable while trying not to make it too obvious 🙄

When I saw that line I genuinely thought it was edited

@@oeurydiceat least insatiable made it clear that they were making camp/satire while also giving most of the sensitive topics the actual care they deserve (apart from Brick’s victimization by Regina. They played that for laughs too much if I remember) this show is played completely straight

NO BECAUSE in euphoria S1, Sam literally wrote a part in the script trying to say that Maddie (at age 14) was the one in control when she was gr00med by a 40 year old man. yuck.

I’m not surprised that Sam of all people would do this. He’s definitely one of THOSE guys

I think he has a secret…

As much as I adore when people who make false accusations are exposed, Steven using it for some agenda is not helping anybody, let alone the victims of false accusations.

He is literally telling us his kinks through his shows. I can name a few and r**e play is definitely one of em

I don't have any proof that Sam has r*ped someone, but I would bet everything that he has.

if a 14 year old was really in control over a whole grown adult man, either that man was insanely stupid or the 14 year old was an anomaly with some issues. Cause in the real world that 14 year old is a VICTIM

Seriously! Jesus Christ how was that allowed to air? HBO needs to get their shit together.

@@sideysophielooks like Sam needs to google what “control” means 😂

*felon, that man would be a whole-ass felon.

Someone check his hard drive cause ain't no way 😶😶😶

i mean just look at Abel's older song lyrics

Yeah just listen to his songs Won’t be supporting him anymore after this

Man, I basically only ever listened to Odd Look by Kavinsky with vocals by The Weeknd in a constant manner, mainly because I love Kavinsky. I listened to it again while re-reading the lyrics and let's just say I'll be sticking with the instrumental version from now on

Yeah, I just can't listen to the weeknd's work anymore. He used to be an artist i had in my pop song spotify rotation but had zero opinion on, just something to have on in the background. But now that I've actually paid attention to some of his lyrics, he gives me the ick 🥲

I never like the Weeknd.. Abel was always weird to me. He is not good looking at all and his music is mediocre at best.

Yep he was given this with no ability and the fact that 99% of actors and “famous” people are nepo babies now has really added to the deterioration of the industry

We could even say that he received... "carté blanché". Ok, I'll leave, now.

He’s not any of that. He’s a misogynist who fit what Sam needed to represent as a fellow shit human in his garbage show.

@@AmyB369100%. There’s basically no way to get into the industry if you don’t know somebody or are seen by somebody. Maybe if you’re amazing at schmoozing, but still.

@@AmyB369 Sam Levinson says hi!

Someone needs to go through his hard drives

That is a possible scenario tho just like the opposite is

Tried to make the audience feel sorry for a literal pimp. 💀

As much as I adore when people who make false accusations are exposed, Steven using it for type of agenda is not helping anybody, let alone the victims of false accusations.

@@watermelonheadiego yeah but given the context (two misogynists created it), it's fishy

Ain’t nothing worse than a mf who thinks he’s funny In order to avoid this I’m just extremely unfunny on purpose

Oh shit I didn't even think about that. Sam truly is a disgusting human being

I think there were so many gross moments that some things got missed in the collective ick.

🥲 huh... Wow this show is great huh..

It says something that this isn't even in the five worst things the show did.

@@o.o451 i think that too but it's still a shame!

Especially given stories the lead actress's father has been spreading for years...

​@@MP-ru9rxlike what? I don't know.

I'm honestly not shocked the idol got majority bad reviews. I remember hearing criticism regarding euphoria S2, which was that Cassie (Sydney Sweeney's character) was heavily s3xualised - shown n-ked a lot and saying weird things, yet having little to no character development. and her character is supposed to be 16 to 17 years old, like what kind of fantasy does sam live in? i love realistic and honest media, but he's just romanticising Cassie's trauma and humiliating her character. it took me months and months to realise that the Cassie and maddy stage fight scene was completely unnecessary, and done to satisfy to fandom's hatred for Cassie and to humiliate her character. it's disgusting honestly. I'm glad people have realised that he's not making art, he's making weird p0rn content with sometimes teenage characters and it's fvcked up. just because it's not inherently illegal doesn't mean it's moral.

Nothing "empowering" about this. They are basically villainizing sexually liberated women.

​@@MP-ru9rxHuh?

The fact that it adds literally NOTHING to the story. She could have been 18 or early 20s and it would have made no meaningful difference EXCEPT that weirdos wouldn't be able to get off to the idea of a naked minor.....

As someone who refused to watch it, I am surprised (yet not) about her being underage. I thought she was supposed to be 20-25 from the clips I've seen on Twitter.

Thank you!! I feel disgusted by it because although the actor is of age this is sick. The reveal was so unexpected and heartbreaking that they chose to add this, it had ZEROO importance to the storyline

@arenerys that would make more sense considering the actress is in her late 20s hhhhhhhh

@@arenerys I guessed she was around 24 until she revealed her actual age. I thought it was weird and uncomfortable that she was acting so childlike but then they went and revealed she's an actual child... Very gross. And even for a 17 year old she still acts really childish. There was no point to this except to be creepy. She was already vulnerable enough for her to be susceptible to Tedros just from being a homeless heroin addict. The only reason they went the extra mile to make her more vulnerable by making her an actual child was to be creepy.

It is kinda creepy yeah but its all fiction i dont think it means that the people who simply wrote it are bad people

​@@nn8009Broseph, you should reaaaally go back and analyze your thoughts better.

yes yes and yes

YES theyre showing their true colors

@@nn8009buddy you need to do some reflection

The pendulum swinging too far.

@@MM03922right. I took it as her ‘turning over a leaf’ or ‘letting go of the past’ or some other corny 💩 like that. Not sure where Kennie was going with that point.

@@MM03922 I thought it was that if jocylen's mom abused her with a brush from childhood and jocylen still uses the same brush, then why is the supposed brush new instead of old (because it should have been used for a couple of years atleast)

@@angelwut469if u watch behind the episode at the end of the final episode. Sam Levinson himself even confirms that Jocelyn lied and Tedros becomes the true “victim”

Sometimes i watch reactions to the show and feel like every abusive scene was made as they went for shock value. Like some of made no sense to me as to why it was happening.

lol I love this comment 😂

Shame him!!!!! Bad Sam!!! AHHHHT.... AHT!!!!! NO MORE writing until you reflect on this!!!

*threateningly raising a spray bottle every time Sam approaches a character who is textually a minor with intent to sexualize them

I second this.

give him a dunce cap!!

1:36:43

A true poet of our generation ❤

I read this the moment she said it. She has such a way with words, it’s phenomenal! You can tell she’s a songwriter! 😭❤

Not just random two men could do that. At least one of them should've good connection so he could make his kinky Wattpad story approved to be filmed and aired.

My theory is that this is how The Weeknd lives or used to live. I heard he had a drug and sex addiction.

Honestly at this point, i wish that these girls had the pull and audacity.

Hollywood is evil

I wonder was JDs daughter hired before or after the other director was fired because im still trying to figure out what she has to do with how the movie went :/

I got the ick from Sam as soon as he said a biracial lesbian teenage girl was BASED off of himself.....

Thank you. With the state of the worlddddddddd….. I say that again, the state of this world… the MONEY used to promote this garbage is ridiculous and utterly unbelievable. WASTE OF MONEY.

It's honestly needed with how bad and creepy it is tho fr

It's unacceptable lol

This. No one else has made this point. Imagine a male pop star just whipping his dick out in front of people at work and we're supposed to as an audience regard the person trying to stop him as a nuisance????

Lily should be ashamed for defending the slander under "women being comfortable with their body"

I can't help but feel like that scene was included because Sam is tired of the restrictions and cristsm he gets for constantly trying to have his actors be nude in EVERY SINGLE SHOT

@@not_botheredd9893 this was definitely a dig at Sidney Sweeney writing up a contract with Sam and an intimacy coordinator to keep her clothes on *more often* in season 2. I'm really grateful too cause imagine how bad the bathroom sex scene would've been 🚩 🚩 🚩 definitely would've had her clothes ripped off and it would've been even rougher like season 1

@@pixiestxNyomouf ​​⁠ Lily is being exploited by the man himself, just like Sydney was. They were both only 22 while this 40 year old man is grossly sexualizing them on screen every 2 seconds for no reason? So yeah I’m not surprised that they don’t realize they’re literal victims.

theres no boobily titting down the stairs just... sa and misogyny.

Why cant we just breast boobily and call it a day!

@@bexxycat2890💀

@@bexxycat2890 why cant we just "She breasted boobily down the stairs" all the time 😔😔

​@@bexxycat2890And sprinting towards titty corridors 😔

Fr Sam and his lazy writing really thought that nudity and abuse would be edgy 🙄

Women r starting to wake up. Trust me. Its women making the difference. Men dont give a shit they love that shit

Idk about that statistics prove that sexual.abuse of minors is a all time high AND the biggest consumer of child corn are Americans

​@@HappySourPuppy14IDK why, cause its been done before. He's not edgy innovator

Sound of Freedom

"Why didn't you, a child, just karate flip a grown adult five times bigger than you? It definitely wouldn't have made the adult angrier if you fought them, leading them to possibly offing you or kicking you out of the house. Definitely not. Furthermore, you as a child could get a job and support yourself if they do happen to kick you out, you wouldn't be left homeless on the streets! The police wouldn't have to come and put you in foster care, leading you to be put in a system so thoroughly corrupt and awful that your chances of being put in a happy family are lower than your chances of being exploited! In fact, if you fought back, they would've gained respect for you." -The Weeknd, probably

@@ettaetta439 Perfect assessment

That’s the point. I in no way think the Idol is a great show, but criticizing a purposely antagonistic character for being insensitive and rude is a nothing take. If that’s your reaction then the writers did their job.

@@smolderiing7166 That's a fair viewpoint to have. There are certainly times where we must discuss character actions within the story as character actions, not just the words of the creator. However, you seem to have misunderstood the discussion we're having. We're not criticizing the character, we're criticizing the writers. When you write a flawed character, you are supposed to depict their actions are wrong. If you don't, you could end up promoting their misguided beliefs as "correct". Tedros is in no way depicted to be "in the wrong" for that scene. For example, Jocelyn doesn't blow up at him for saying something like that, nor does she explain she was a child. There is no fully hashed out narrative context, flashbacks or conversation that shows how Tedros was absolutely wrong IN the story, and later he even gets angry at Xavier for not "protecting" her even though Xavier was also a child. We have absolutely NO scenes that depict that Tedros is WRONG, and they NEED to put one in, or else they are telling the audience that this is a perfectly fine viewpoint to have. Even if you are making a flawed, horrible character, you can have nuance. This flawed character can save someone's life like Tedros did, and of course that's a good thing, so the writers should depict it as a good thing. But if you show Tedros saying something awful, it has to be shown to be awful in some way. That's why this whole show is bad, because it consistently has Tedros being awful, but it doesn't punish him in any way (no, Jocelyn making him her bf at the end of the show isn't a punishment), nor does it depict these things as awful, and so it just ends up romanticizing it. That was Kennie's whole point throughout the whole video, that this show doesn't do ANYTHING right. I hope this explained it.

yeah but like you can tell the writer's didn't intend it that way, they even sort of martyr him in that he's unjustly punished and that the outcome of what he did is good. Like while we as an audience can make the assumption that what he's doing and saying is wrong, that is evidently NOT what the writer's were intending. They even show and VERBALLY SAY/CONFIRM how these 'bad' things he does "helped" jocelyn, that what he says has merit and purpose. This isn't "it's a good portrayal of someone being insensitive and rude" the writer's just wrote something insensitive and CONSEQUENTIALLY the audience didn't like it. Sort of like when a character disliked by the writer ends up becoming a fan fav or something@@smolderiing7166

"A person is telling me to stop forcing my female actresses to be nude all the time because they don't like it? Omfg I hate people who make me respect other people's consent!!!"-Sam, probably

Imagine working on a set or a photoshoot where they have spontaneous nudity. Like you're there to do hair/ lighting/ catering and people are naked without warning. That would unambiguously be a hostile work environment.

Wait, I’m confused. I actually thought that part was satire. Or at least I was hoping that was the case!

@@_abSynthe_ Nah, when working with Sydney Sweeney in Euphoria he consistently pushed against her boundaries by constantly making her be nude in every scene, and her intimacy coordinator had to protect her. He's probably still salty about that.

@@ettaetta439 oh my gosh that’s so awful! That’s really unprofessional. She’s such a classy actress and has way more skill than just having nudity. I hope she’s working with more respectful directors now.

Except it’s even more stupid because she was literally already a star and could have whatever she wanted anyways so like none of this even begins to make sense

I hate that I predicted the show would pull that victim-blaming shit "twist" from day one. It doesn't even make sense, because it's not indicated that she ever needed to endure abuse (whether as real or fake victimization) to make her music before her breakdown. She HAD THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN, but apparently it's entirely irrelevant to the plot! Why? Because regardless of whatever previous trauma was endured, Jocelyn was mentally intact enough to figure her way into and out of what was supposed to be an abusive relationship the whole time. She could have fallen in with Tedros and went through things without the edgy backstory.

THIS!!

i took the hairbrush thing kennie was going on about as not a lie, but as like a.,.. she got a new brush bc she let go of the past and needing her mom etc, starting a new era for herself

@@evelinaz1548 Maybe, but if so, then Tedros's reaction to that exchange really did not fit that interpretation.

Ikr. Like her beating him at his own game somehow turned him into the victim. Her playing him doesn't absolve him of his degenerate behaviour.

​@@canesugar911like oh no, he didn't get to victimize her as much as he thought he did? That's like trying to feel sorry for a murderer who gets killed by their would-be victim. Makes no sense.

@@squirrel670 can't be an instigator and a victim at the same time.

didn't xander confirm that she was abused by her mom tho

@@BhlackBishop the show wants you to believe that she was being abused on purpose and stopped him from helping her because she needed to be abused for art or something and tedros was her next abuser cash cow. Disgusting.

I’m torn because interpretation is the most praised, encouraged and intentional part of media entertainment and analysis, but I draw the line at people taking their opinions as facts. Levinson is no auteur but the analysis isn’t wrong in a vacuum 🤷‍♂️

So he is the Jordan Peterson of streaming 😂

Where I’m at is the sexualization of underage girls and any children isn’t deep. Ever. That’s a sickness.

The MOST accurate.

his fanboys cant take any criticism towards levinson either. point out actual flaws in the writing, plot, and pacing and they come running to say “IT WAS INTENTIONAL!!! THE NUDITY IS NECESSARY!!!” give up the ghost. levinson is a shit writer and the show is ass.

It really is the ultimate lie

My mouth was wide open when D'Angelo showed the clip and it stayed down. Whoever came up with that "joke" needs help

Reads like a humiliation ritual for Abel with how bad this makes him look 🤡

@@lynnanderson1538 I guess he's ready for the illuminati

I cannot believe

....but the house is amazing

@@BhlackBishopit is but I think she means that The Weeknd wanted an ego boost by having the characters of the show openly say it’s an amazing house

@@hellobussy123 ?? Tedros's gang aren't as well off as her, it would be strange if they didn't comment on a house they would never be able to afford. Also if they're trying to "befriend" Jocelyn, complimenting her house to boost her ego doesn't hurt.

@@hellobussy123 hmm i dont know, now yall just interpreting too much into it.

​@@k-kmic7483we're not looking that far into it 😭 man literally wrote compliments for his own house in his own film

Lol I was just thinking that 😂😂😂

wait are you saying johnny depp is innocent?? bcs he isn't

@@s...5885 Hell no, he's guilty af

Hollyweirds have twisted minds. But of course they choosed this story line rather than the original one, because the previous original one basically exposing drug and human trafficking issue, secret cult issue, women and underage kids exploitation in Hollywood. Jocelyn character at first it said inspired by Britney Spears, an ex Disney child star. There's a reason why a lot of ex child stars mostly having mental breakdown, depressed and suicidal.

@@rebellyanmagic6409 totally, lol i can be pretty dense sometimes

Didn’t even realize I was looking for this comment 🙏🏻 bless you

The bits of the original version I read were so good. Sam could never...

that's a VERY good way to put it!

​@gabrielasosa9146 where can you read it?

@@thegracefulbrowngazelle6035 I read it in some facebook pages. They leaked some screenshots of different parts of the script and the plot. I will write some down below since they are images and cant share them: "-Jocelyn is a Disney type of ex child star. Which include merch and toys for kids with her face when she was a kid. -There are flashbacks of her as a child being ab*sed by her mom and working. -Is centered of her breaking out of her "type of Disney girl" persona. Like Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato,.. (Allegedlly) scene: Dyanne: It was me! I leaked them! Jocelyn is in shock and disbelief she sttuters and falls down on her knees Dyanne: It was Tedros who forced me into this thing! It was Tedros who made me believe I could replace you! ........ ........ dont forgive me but I was not alone in this.

Oh he's definitely getting ahead of a few allegations he KNOWS are coming his way

False accusations exist lmao, that is the truth and it's not harmful to women.

@@Suren2122falsely accusing someone of sexual assault makes people believe real sexual assault cases less. Since women are mainly the ones who are assaulted, it would definitely affect women too.

@dumbomni2857 Okay, but just because it affects women badly doesn't mean it's not an issue that should be brought up and discussed because it ruins lives.

​@@Suren2122I think the issue people take with it is how it is dealt with. When a storyline like this is done poorly it can feed into misogynistic stereotypes that women are manipulative and cunning liars who will stop at nothing to destroy men's lives which itself is used to deny women who come forward with SA allegations and to protect their abusers (especially if said abuser is someone who is well liked and even respected by people, whether it would be their local community or by people around the world) so storylines like these can absolutely feed into these stereotypes which makes an already uphill battle even more harder

I heard that line and my tubes tied themselves

Actually that book came out a month after the show was finished filming last year, but that was a funny coincidence lol

@Sagacypher it's true the book did, but she went on a super long book tour before it was even released. KZfaqrs from Graham Steven, to H3, to the Financial Diet, and a ton of podcasts had her on well before the book was launched.

@@Sagacypher she had spoken about this before the book came out though

Another comment said this too... it's sad to see..

Or if "Perfect Blue" was written by E.L. James

Noooo no no no ypu dont get it it's the biggest show of the summerrrrrrrr its so gooood he loves to portray women as manipulative and also damsels when it matters he looooves it you just don't get it (/s)

You are so right!

Just the fact that showgirls made fun of mispronouncing Versace.. and this show let The Weaknd mispronounce carte blanche..

As someone working toward certification as an intimacy coordinator, THANK YOU FOR THIS SO MUCH

@@clarerichardson8770 I believe I read in an article that Levinson actually had conflicts with intimacy coordinators in Euphoria, which a) adds gross context and b) I think is a big testament to just how valuable y'all are, given how much total rein he seems to get in almost all other realms - that someone was able to stick up for the cast successfully enough that he's stewing over it. FWIW.

Yes yes yes

PERFECT

EXACTLYYYY

that movie was slayage

Omg you are so right! Humans love exploitation, consumerism, and spectacle 💅🏽

The biggest flop of the summer, with The Flash movie!

don’t forget the secret Fifth Ranger D’Angelo Wallace sacrificing brain cells for the cause

Nikki Carreon also giving some good points in her videos!

Uncarley too lol!

Now, I'm just waiting for Double Toasted to get in on it.

@@elleofhearts8471isn’t illegal but should be*

reminds of a specific p*rn category that isn't illegal but should be

@@elleofhearts8471 which category??

​@@chrystaldiamond9779teen...

⁠​⁠@@chrystaldiamond9779teen stuff or like freshly new 18 yr old

Sadly we know it wont

@@CherryBlossomBlyueyup

No if people still hate-watching garbage shows like this

@@auliameizahra4174 the compilation of jennie’s scenes received like 8x ore views than the first episode 💀 even hbo is trying to pretend the show doesn’t exist. almost no one really cared for it.

I’m reading the comment and I’m so confused like the shows is bad period it not any worse becuase it comes from a man like does it matter there so much shows on women trauma and how they abuse it or make it look sexual it’s a show that’s what clearly sells cause everyone is watching it not to mention no one would talk about this is it was about a male shows a bad show period that why the comments really confuse me

what was the false sa allegation in euphoria can you remind me?

@@karides6755 maddy in s1 said the guy from the pool sa'd her (which technically it was illegal considering shes a minor)

@@dessy_3 thank youu

Yah… it’s very worrying, like why is Sam Levinson so interested in all of that 😕

what homophobia in euphoria? or in the idol?

That’s just heartbreaking, he ain’t even have to go that far yo… Man’s the worse of the worse. Especially since this whole thing supposed to be about a WOMAN, yet he got a whole problem with a woman working alongside him😒

Holy shit. I'd be haunting a mffffff

​@@nailinthefashion SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WTF?

@@mel818 oh, the polter? Would be GEISTINGKKKKK

No way, I didn't know Anne would even be in the original? That's really heartbreaking and evil of Sam to not even tribute/pay respect to her or leave the edits in. omg I hate this man

@@asteridshydrangea-jt2hf no no as a writer as well I totally get that 😂 sometimes I wonder if I’m analyzing or if I’m reading way into something that doesn’t deserve it.

Like I think they were trying to get the idea across of like “oh he’s crazy, he’d probably kill someone, and these people are picking up on that” and like nah it’s fucking LA, and that’s the least intimidating man I’ve ever seen

There are plenty of people who look harmless but are intimidating etc...

@@CherryBlossomBlyue yeah but that’s not what this is. This is someone trying way too hard to be intimidating in a way that seems super unnatural so it reads like false bravado. Which is why The Weekend being a bad actor and the production not noticing and putting him up against more physically imposing people only made it worse. Which ends up being canon to the plot anyways because they try to last second paint him as a sad mew mew.

I kinda expected the nutritionist to knock him out, it would actually give Jocelyn a reason to fire him instead of the "fire him because I want to >:-(" Also I think the nutritionist could sue Jo because of that, like firing him because her boyfriend told her to after he was just assaulted by him, if he came to the internet with this she would be fucked.

@@luxgh for REAL. And the security dude at the store like what lmao they shoulda ended up on TMZ with Jocelyn freaking out while the weekend is yelling and being forcibly removed from the property. (I’m realizing as I’m saying this how unrealistically absent the paparazzi is for this major pop star who’s publicly struggling lmao)

*Chip

It's so sus that he also obsessed to blonde women that look like his mom. Freudian slipped?

What makes you say that? I missed that bit.

​@@milenabianca9787 it's a reference to a well known copypasta "any female born after 1993 can’t cook… all they know is mcdonald’s , charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual , eat hot chip & lie"

@@samceledon448 what a weird copy pasta… I really hate this kind of thing being said about women but thanks for letting me know

Don’t forget the intimacy coordinator thing and how he was portrayed as a nuisance cuz the woman “wanted to be naked”

@@Sagacypher kinda reminds me about how one of the blonde actresses from Euphoria (never seen it) talked about how she didn't want to have her shirt off so much but was kinda manipulated into it by levinson.

@@Sagacypher And they try so hard to make that sound woke, even though 1. Changing the agreement wouldn’t have taken that long. And 2. There’s more to consider than just Jocelyn’s feelings. What if the people on set aren’t comfortable with that level of nudity? Their feelings need to be addressed as well. The crew are real people who also need to give consent.

​@@carly7522yup Sydney Sweeney has said that she had to speak up about not wanting to be topless for so many scenes. Which is crazy because she is topless so much on the show and that is the pared down version 😬

the only “reference” it seems was troye’s character calling her a liar and that was brief so it doesn’t matter? it’s so weird

5'3? 😮

as amusing as sam levinson being 5’3 would’ve been, according to images i’ve seen, he seems to be about 5’11

@@mightychuu5397i’ve seen most websites saying he’s 5’11, a few saying 5’3, and one saying 5’8

I think he's 5'11 considering in some of the photos I've seen with him standing next to zendaya (who is 5'10) they are about the same height when she's wearing a tall heels

Short or tall, it's clear that the dude is trying to compensate for something.

Because they have a mentality problem

I guess Hollywood didn't mean any of their lip service towards the #metoo movement

I was furious cause me, my older sister (who's quite feminist) and my mum had an argument about blonde. my sister was trying to justify the hypers3xualisation of Marilyn's character, and got angry at me because I genuinely believed the directors and producers tried to write a story based on Marilyn's actual life. she was like "IT WAS THE 50s WOMEN WERE S3XUALISED ALL THE TIME" - but if the directors us wanted us to feel bad for marilyn, then why use that 50s gaze and not point anything terrible about it? it's just t0rturing a woman over and over again. it's not art or interesting. it's oddly gross and im glad other people were sus about blonde.

@@ashd.3055 Hollywood only cares about money

I wouldn't say whenever but that's because I'm a big fan of George RR Martin's work lol. In cinema however, it does happen more often than not

jfc

this shit is depressingly frustrating

Stg the weeknd is over there like "I got that dog in me" and the dog is his entire personality and treatment of others

Interesting about Lily-Rose and who her father is. I thought this throughout the show - were the creators thinking they could pull this of better because of the whole Johnny/Amber thing?

This all feels like that one Disclosure episode from Big Mouth. Except we don't have the luxury of Levinson filleting his own ballsack after falling on his pointy toes. 🤦‍♀️

Isn’t that just called “meeting people”? The Idol is so brain dead

Grammar? I hardly know her!

Sam L and The Weaknd LMAO

@@katet8639it’s a joke; a play on words

Love "The Weaknd"! I would LOVE to see the Amy cut.

I'm calling them that from now on.

I've seen a lot of people saying that they enjoyed his music because they thought he was just playing a character and now that he's shown that he genuinely believes in that shit by playing a role like this they aren't listening to him anymore.

He's always been so repulsive to me especially with his dating history. He's just gives me borderline predator/abuser vibes so I can't even listen to his music.

It sounded so icky to me, especially as a bi person. ....that's horrible...

Lol if anything the weekend would make me gay 😅 I don't find anything about him attractive

Preach!

Basically

I agree! A lot of the fans of the show try to gaslight us into thinking that he is actually great at acting bc we hate Tedros and find The Weeknd weird. But actually it looks like he was not capable of delivering a compelling and charismatic character, so all he brought was his own personality.

@@ritchieashley8843 the weekend is playing himself honestly if you listen to his songs something about it be sounding off

Right!? And Jocelyn laughed when Tedros screamed at her. Hell no

@@Sam-0827 exactly!

She was so real for quitting. I understand why people like Chaim and Destiny, but them mfs were so fucking cruel to her !!! “Braindead bitch” SHES TRYING HER BEST????

It's not that. She signed after the script got changed her part was never meant to be big. She was always supposed to be there for hype

​​@@Mku-JJ1ifit's probably a combination of the two reasons. After the script got changed, who would want to be part of this weird show? But also, she was getting busier and busier, so she walked outta the show both metaphorically through that scene in the episode and literally.

i feel like the audience is a lot of young ppl tho so u can't fault them for not realizing how exploitative it is of themselves

Euphoria season 1 was very good tv imo with super interesting characters. Season 2 was mostly a pretentious incoherent mess with 1 stellar episode. I think he depicts drug addiction in a very accurate and interesting way. The idol was the worst show I've ever watched tho.

i've never seen an adult over the age of 25 saying it was good and they enjoyed watching it (if they watched it at all)

I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and watched a few episodes. I immediately got the ick after 15 minutes.

Thank you!!! The weekend was right, the general public has no brain of their own. They loved Euphoria but no...THIS is where y’all draw the line?

She called it too when guessing Sam was acting like a short dude with issues. Cuz I believe he's like 5" 4'. 💀

He’s shorter than that he’s a whopping 5’3..

@@why7242 Noooe 😂 I was too generous!

@@srose1088 yea you really were.

@why7242 🤏 we might as well shave off a bit and call it at 5" 2.5' cuz let's b real, if you're that short than you know you're going to round up as much as u can. 😂

Same

SO glad people are finally seeing that the weekend dude is creepy as fuck and that his "persona" was just an excuse to be gross

​@@caithenry8429he's literally like that

​@@caithenry8429right! Ugh I have to listen to his music on rotation at work and the lyrics always give me manipulative ass cactus. Plus I hate his singing voice shit is whiny and nasal as fuk.

@@caithenry8429ight! Ppl may like his music but his lyrics clearly indicate that he’s a misogynistic predator who fetishizes and sexualizes women all the time

There was this show with Megan Goode a few years ago, and it was awful. However this guy did recaps, and they were amazing!!! I quit watching the show and just read the recaps the next day. I genuinely didn’t want the show cancelled because I loved those recaps so much.

Kennie all day! ❤🎉 It’s the witty humor combined with intricate analysis for me. ☺️

Yep lol the only way

@@Oonagh72a show called what?

Yep!

Pedos and kids both watch it.

That's legitimately my reaction!

​@@Winter-Alpha-Omegame too! I always thought and I still somewhat think that Zendaya protected that show so hard from criticism by her simply being in it. Still agree with Kenny and always have. That show is just pervert/child bait, which is doubly sick. Kids think it's all super cool, and partly got introduced by it bc Zendaya was in it. And the perverts are there bc it's naked "minors" or fucking "minors" or abused "minors" at least 50% of the time.

@@mean7404 I watched the first episode and I was like "Is this sh¡t really praised for representing yankee teenage life?". Like, it was so outlandish. By the way the US is portrayed by Sam Levinson, you'd think the United States are some den of perverts and teenage f*ckers. That whole Cal and Jules bulls¡t was creepy. Kat gaining respect because she's "sexually liberated" when she's supposed to be underage is ??? This show was like an anomaly to me. Glad that people are realising how rubbish it truly was. Kennie here seems to be really intelligent, since she didn't fall on the drooling over it wagon. Congratulations for that.

Not the Glitter reference 😭 nawr

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂

This was a read lmaoo

Goddamn 😂

For real. When she said that I was like 😧

An iconic and forward-thinking video that stood the test of time 🤌🏾🤌🏾❤

@@ambriaashley3383 To think it came out, got backlash, and then season two happened and the comments section flooded with “This aged well” because Levinson’s mask slipped 😆

I thought the same thing!

Right! I was shocked it's been 3 years!

The fact that Jocelyn’s song is called Born Sinner and Selena had a song called Fetish…I think you’re onto something.

can you link the thread?

Holy hell w h a t and yeah would like a link to the thread as well. KZfaq is a bit weird about posting links in comments if you're not op poster/mods so if you space it out, so it doesn't register as a link would be solid too

@@xryxixI saw the thread to it was very interesting, not sure I could post the link but I suggest to type in “idol about Selena Gomez” and hopefully it comes up!

Was it on Reddit or Twitter??

If he's directing it doesn't he have a say in the angles and stuff that he wants to achieve? Genuinely curious bc euphoria is also extremely visually appealing and he kinda talks like he comes up with at least some of the ideas.

Same!!!!!!!

His own damn mom that he wanted to bang

I literally predicted from the first episode debut that Levinson would go that route. It's such an easy, lazy thing to write as the resolution it would be perfect for a sexually charged teen drama-level show like this.

Fr tho I just love to see whatever happens however long it is😊

ive heard the wild theory that they also all look like his mother???? lol

Reminds me of how Joss Whedon is obsessed with white brunettes

@@evren5642 yo for real why is warner always hiring these creepy men

I wouldn’t say “hatred”. He seems to have a sexual fixation on victimizing while also demonizing them (peep how Cassie was written in a way in which she’s more in the wrong for “getting with Nate” as if he’s not an abuser known for wanting “easy girls”) I think it’s way too fucked up and complicated to write it off as just hatred.

@@__L__837idk what else to call subjecting someone to scrutiny and abuse, hate isn’t a soft word m8.. lily was a teenager who was hunted, assaulted, and exploited all of which the narrative justified.. he really literally hates them.. there was a weird knife play non-con scene with her too.. dude is bizarre

Wonder if she looks like his mom... Edit after googl: She looks like all the other women but with brown hair....yikes

​@@pixiestxNyomoufshe just looks like an age appropriate brunette white woman to me 🤷

@@sarahkp729 your personally opinion 🤷🏿‍♀️ face shape wise. She looks like she'd be in his line up

omg I thought the same thing!

I thought the same, that or to show he’s not as smart as he’s trying to present himself to be!

Ironically I don't think his character would know how to pronounce Versace either

yeah its like they want us to sympathize wtih Tedros at the end and i am like NO

Agreed, the "Joss was behind it all along" arc could have worked if this had been literally any other show. But for this show, the ENTIRE PREMISE was supposed to be a depiction of how women are exploited in the industry ... but then in the end it was a woman who was the villain? Like I'm sorry but that's literally the exact opposite of what they were supposedly going for, that plot simply doesn't make sense for this specific show. 😭 And it wasn't even original because everyone was expecting that. Plus, with the false accusation against Rob, it clearly furthers the point that this show wasn't ever going to meaningfully explore women's struggles, because there's already such a stigma around women lying about SA by powerful men, and this show only worsened that perception. And even if the Jocelyn as a villain arc did somehow make logistical sense for this show, the execution is trash. Because the writers really want me to somehow feel sympathy for a creepy man who grooms underage girls, leads a cult, and fully believed himself to be beating a woman with the same brush her abuser used? I'm supposed to feel sorry that THAT guy got conned? Like I'm sorry but no lol. Whenever I get discouraged about my writing skills in the future I'm going to remember that I can literally never write anything worse than this trash.

Add James Gunn to that list please lmao

Yes! I was thinking this but couldn't remember the actual name of the role. Being able to create pleasing aesthetics is a talent but that doesn't mean you're also a competent storyteller.

A man can’t possibly be a diva. He’s simply saving a dying show/s

The Star Wars trilogy is the prime example of this. JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson are decent to good cinematographers but they cannot write good stories to save their lives. The only thing they can contribute to the writing room is "cool" ideas that are usually left on the cutting room floor for a reason.

​@@grandempressvicky6387they both can though, people just didn't like the direction they went with star wars, both knives out and Cloverfield were a lot better and also well received

that is so awesome I've always wanted to meet her

oh my god imagining her doing Madame Thenardier has me in stitches, I bet that was so great

lol that was my initial interpretation as well. seems people had misexpectations about the show. i'm so confused now reading the comments. it couldn't have been a lie unless xander was in on it. way too convoluted for a 5 episode miniseries 😫 My only main problem with the show, besides the annoying cuts of the same frame, was how they glossed over the article, if Tedros was really exposed like they say he was then there's no way her fans would be accepting of him. couple of unanswered questions there.

I get ur point, but as a person who got abused themselve, I can say that u cannot be healed from abuse if another person abuses u in the exact same way but a different context, it just adds to the existing trauma. Also, the context in which he used it, in front of all his cult members she didn't even knew until 4 days ago and while not asking her consent for them watching, it's just another abusive act.

Also, the people who watched her getting abused where minors. Just watching someone getting hit and crying is really traumatising . Also, if someone told me: "I heal u by beating u up with stuff people used to beat u with", I'd probably report them to the police😂 an abuser can't heal u with abuse like who even came up with that

Didn't Tedros ask her "is this the brush your mother beat you with?" before he said it was brand new or am I tripping?

​@@BhlackBishoplate, but Xander was literally tortured and "converted" to get with the music cult program. In order to do that, he had to traumatized him and breed resentment between the 2 which ig jos caught 🤷🏿‍♀️

Underrated comment

Yeah, that kid apparently have a rich dad who has influence and good connection in Hollywood

I mean euphoria is all about highschool tho so thats expected. The issue is more so that chole being underage does nothing for the story. Ahe could have been 18/24/28 etc and it still play out the same.

@@holysex1052 They don't have to be naked though which is the point.

What the fuck !!! Lilly rose depp telling a ugly suit wearing weekend to meet her family at his own concert and telling him to go over there.. Omg 😂😂🤣🤣

Do it!! There's always an audience bb

Right? It could've been you making all the money. Look at 365 days, Fifty shades and..., this

Vampire and werewolf is not longer a trend. Try aliens shit.

@@aubreysong i have never actually laughed out loud at a comment, but you got me girl 🤣

@@aubreysongLMFAO

I mean… not to defend this show in any way but lots of kinks/fetishs are a direct results of trauma, especially childhood trauma

​@sari9645 I think the issue is implying that's the only reason why anyone would be into it but I agree it often can be a mechanism, but I think many bdsm ppl seek to do it in a healthy vs further perpetuating trauma

weekday💀💀

​@@loveydovey3631😭

I believe you mean weekdy.

The way that the Weekend and Levinson could take the show over from a female director proves the point that women are exploited and marginalised in the entertainment industry.