Hello and many thanks for your kind words about this video. Although I'm from England I have long been aware of the imprtance of Howard Pyle in the evolution of modern American illustration, and I'm delighted you think I have done him justice here. On the off chance that you arent aware of it there's a video about N. C. Wyeth too and others of Pyle's pupils turn up in my unsing heroes of illustration series.

Hello again and thanks as ever for your comment.

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation.

Thanks for the comment. He was a crucial figure and it's hard to imagine how things might have turned out without him.

Thanks a lot for your comment.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. There are some 'scribbles' by pyle to see online and even though they are remarkably loose you can still get the gist of the composition being planned out. I couldn't find any studies though.

Thanks a lot for your comment.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. His career was just 24 years long - an amazing volume of work produced.

Many thanks for your appreciation. And don't get me started about the damn weather...

Many thanks for your comment and appreciation. I don't know if you are aware of it but there is a similar video about Wyeth on the channel.

Many thanks for your apprecaition and insightful comments. It's a strange aspect of human nature that we romanticise the past so much. Personally I await (but I'm not holding my breath) foe someone to make a credible film about the Arthurian legend without all that jousting and lady in the lake stuff.

@@petebeard I agree totally! I tire of wars and victomhood ! We have been witness to many generations of the same old history of monumental hatreds and injustices that spawn more hostilities etc. Enough of the past hatreds and injustices that are constantly threatening our world everyday. Alot of other things happened in our world and are happening now. Magnificent blessings, fantastic experiences, unimaginably glorious events that are happening with no notice or any kind of joyous jubilation in celebration and delight. We all have many different types of blessings and memories that are important for our enthusiastic and positive attitude of our journey with creative potential and wonderment. Same old same old. Thanks Pete for taking the time and effort to stir up our hearts and minds with each precious post that you offer to us all. The work you share is always a blessing and a great gift for the betterment of our lives in learning and understanding through this creative journey of our past and present masters of their arts. We all deserve a time to enjoy the unique and individual artists that have been presented by your gift for us all in a profoundly generous way. I am blessed by your generosity of heart and wisdom 🥰😍❣️

Many thanks for your comment and appreciation. I'm pleased you enjoyed the video.

Thanks a lot for your appreciation and comment.

Thanks as usual for your appreciation. It's frustrating that the less than thrilling print quality didn't do them justice in many cases.

Thanks as usua, and as far as I know the pirate book is still in print.

Hello again and thanks a lot for your comment.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation.

I used my superpowers to make that happen.

Thanks for the comment and particularly so in Pyle's short (24 years) career.

Thanks a lot for your ongoing appreciation. I'm glad you enjoyed this look at his life's work.

Thanks a lot for your favourable comment. Frazetta is on my bucket list too, but there are quite a few others ahead of him in the queue.

Many thanks for your appreciation. I actually see these videos not as biographies but as the charting of a particular career through the work produced and its development.

Thanks - your appreciation is most welcome.

Thanks a lot. It was my own experience teaching illustration at a British university which led me to create the channel.

Thanks a lot for your appreciation. There was quite a lot of it I didn't know about before I made the video.

Thanks a lot for your ongoing appreciation of the channel.

Hello again and many thanks for your appreciation of this video and Pyle's remarkable body of work.

You are very welcome and thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Thanks a lot for sharing and your appreciation.

Welcome back and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks as usual. And yes, the curse of bad printing hangs over many illustrators from this period. Even some later examples, such as Pulp covers, didn't fare much better.

Thanks for your appreciation. And it makes a change to cover someone by whom there is quite a lot of work in print.

Hello again, and words fail me when it comes to morons trying to re-invent the past, or judge it by contemporary thinking. Art is art - and politics isn't.

How very true. Thanks for the comment.

Hello again and thanks as ever. I'm glad to see this one is doing pretty well in terms of views, and hopefully it will lead to more subscriptions too. I certainly don't intend to stop, but "ever" is a promise I just can't make, unfortunately.

Thanks a lot for your comment. And in case you haven't seen it Hal Foster appears - admittedly briefly - in unsung heroes of illustration 93, also on the channel.

Thanks a lot for your comment. And pardon me for the shameless plug but there's also a video about Wyeth on the channel, in case you missed it.

Hello and many thanks for your comment.

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Many thanks for your appreciation of the video and my contribution to it. Such comments are always very welcome.

Hi and thanks as ever. Certainly far from perfect, but my best attempt at it.

You are welcome as always. Thanks for the comment.

Hello and many thaks for your appreciation of my efforts.

Thanks as ever for the comment. But just to nitpick I think thats not really accurate as both A. B. Frost and Edwin Austin Abbey (and a couple of other lesser known illustrators) were already quite successful before he came along. But I'm just being pedantic so don't mind me. His achievements speak for themselves.

It's the Father of American Illustration, as the UK was far ahead of the US in the art at the time. As Pete said, Pyle's work was reproduced in monocolor by wood blocks or etchings, while in England. Edmund Evans was making beautiful color books for Crane, Caldecott and Greenaway from their color originals. It was Pyle's students who went on to the modern era of full color photo reproduction shortly after his untimely departure.

@@petebeard I tried to find how his son Sellers died but, nothing turned up. I was just curious about it

@@petebeard Google said it, not me & someone somewhere put it on Google. I take all the internet info w/ a grain of salt

@@mijiyoon5575 I hope you didn't think I was being critical of you - like you say it was google who made the statement. I was just being conversational on the subject so my apologies if it came across any other way.

Thanks as ever for your comment.

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of this video. I came to Pyle quite late in life as his books didn't mean a lot in Britain as I grew up, but I admire him greatly now.

@@petebeard Yeah, when I discovered Pyle as an undergrad, it was in fact as an art major interested in illustration and loved his work from the start, at least visually before I found out about his literary efforts--both his great pen-and-ink work as inspired by the woodcuts and engravings of Albrecht Durer and his b/w and full-color paintings as illustrations. Thanks again for the excellent overview.

Many thanks for your continued appreciation - and the comical story. I imagine in actually brown would have been pretty common. Of course it's hard not to blame Pyle for the Pirates of the Caribbean...

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation.

Hi and thanks as ever. From what I can tell it was only the early painted work for the magazines that was gouache. If you look closely at them you can see his very opaque application. The engraving tends to obscure this, and obviously there was a lot of oil on canvas too. Just got back from a walk round our local park with the current Mrs. Beard and the sun was actually shining, and daffodils in abundance. Even I struggle to be grumpy on such a day.

@@petebeard According to some weather forecasters, our area here in Provence has or will receive a record amount of rain today. Already some fields are flooded. So please send some sunshine if you gave to spare.🌞 Have a good Sunday and best to the missus.

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Art for the masses - as good a definition of illustration as Ive heard. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks a lot for your comment.

Hello again and I'm glad you continue to enjoy the content.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. I don't know about the murals, but I can only imagine they must exist, otherwise where did the scans come from? I suspect they will be found at his museum.

Many thanks for your appreciation. Positive comments are a real tonic.

Hello and many thanks for the suggestion of Holling Clancy Holling. I had never heard of him - or his wife Lucille - and I'm very grateful for the introduction to their work. I have a policy of not using books for reference unless I already own them as there would not be room to move if I kept buying more. But having had a quick look I'm confident that both can be featured down the line. It may be that they will feature in unsung heroes if there is not the volume of biography and imagery available. But they will certainly make an appearance and thanks again.

@@petebeard It may be worthwhile to inquire whether your local public library could get copies for you to borrow, through Interlibrary Loan.

@@TheSanityInspector Thanks for the suggestion - I'll look into it, although where I am is quite a distance from anything resembling a library.

Thanks a lot for your comment and I'm glad to have made the introduction.

Thanks a lot for your comment. And regarding your question it very much depends who you are talking about. Pyle, for instance had left a large volume of original painted work which is on show at various museaums and galleries. The same is true of others in the USA such as Rockwell and Wyeth. But sadly the work of others (and particularly those who created comic art) got destroyed one way or another along the way. Im just grateful for what we have.

... and a sound opinion it is.

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Thanks a lot for your comment.For similar reasons I recommend the work of the Brock brothers.

I enjoy your videos as well.

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Thanks for the comment. Who knew dentists were so cultured?

Thanks for the comment. Frequently youtube displays quite badly and I suspect that may be what you encountered. All the images are fine on my display.

Thanks for the comment, and you are absolutely right about Wyeth. He was one of Pyle's students and made no secret of his admiration for him and his work.

You are welcome as always.

Thanks a lot for your comment. Genius is wordI try not to over-use but Pyle was undoubtedly that.

My pleasure.

Absolutely.

How do, sir. Thanks as ever and just an aside - I can't hear the words Tranmere Rovers without being transported back to my Mancunian childhood on a Saturday teatime while the old man realised he hadn't won the pools yet again. Accrington Stanley has a similar effect.

​@@petebeard....spot the ball, and the Liverpool football Echo springs to mind ....😊😊😊5

Thanks for the comment. I must see if I can find an example online.

This is certainly true.

..and just to plug the channel there's a video about Wyeth too, if you haven't already seen it.

I'm pleased to hear that. Thanks.

My pleasure.

Thanks a lot for your comment.

Thanks a lot for the appreciation and suggestion. It's a great idea but there is a major obstacle to this because there is very little available information about both the aspects you mention. I do know that for those who had formal art training at this time and for quite some years to come it was very much art rather than illustration and consisted of large amounts of life and still life drawing and painting. So both technical and classical, much to the annoyance and frustration of some. And I do try to specify working practices and mediumsin the videos when I can find a reliable source, but sadly that's quite infrequent and even on occasion patently not true. So unfortunately I'm unable to make such a video.

Thanks for both your comments on videos. I'm pleased you are watching with such frequency. I try to not blame Pyle for Pirates of the Caribbean.

🤣 I try to watch as much as I can, even if its in batches. I like hearing about artists we didnt study in art history, can give me ideas of what i might focus on artistically

Thanks a lot.

I'm glad you enjoyed his work.

Thanks a lot for your comment. What little evidence there is indicates they were quite drab and nondescript. Funny how murderous thugs become playtime for children.

Thanks for your appreciation. And I'm sorry but I will have to disappoint you regarding John Stanton Ward. I'm at the mercy of what I can find online, and to make a video such as this iI need a decent amount of biography to work from, and more importantly around 130 good resolution examples of illustration work. In his case there simply isnt enough, and most of it is his art not illustraton. Sorry.

@@petebeard Thanks anyhow.

Hello and thanks a lot for contacting me. This is the only way we can communicate as I don't have a presence anywhere ese (other than in reality of course). If you mean you are sharing links to the channel content then Im delighted, as that will boost subscriptions and views. But if you mean posting actual videos I have made the opposite would be true, and that I would be unhappy about, to say the least. But as I'm sure you are aware I would be none the wiser if you did so all I can hope is that you don't yield to that temptation.

@@petebeard ​ No videos Sir, just links to your youtube! 😊 I have a deep love of your work - I am an artist that creates work heavily influenced by Art Nouveau and the Golden Age movements. My intention here isn't to promote myself, just you, so I didn't post a link for you to see. Wishing you all the best!!!

@@T.S.LarkingStudios Well that's splendid news. And my apologies if my reply sounded paranoid, but I have been pirated in more than one occasion. Thanks a lot.

@@petebeard No worries, I completely understand, I've had work stolen as well. Internet-Wild-West! I hope more come to appreciate your work, and similar; it's desperately needed in this day and age. All my best.

@@T.S.LarkingStudios Hello again, and my curiosity gor the better of me and I took a look at your work online. And I'm somewhat lost for words, dumbstruck by the sheer aesthetic beauty and intensity of your images. I can only hope that your commercial success reflects the astonishing quality of your work.

Thanks for the comment, and it does seem that reproduction in late Victorian and particularly Edwardian Britain was considerably better than most of the USA.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. But I must say AI should be kept well away from his (or anybody else's) work based on the examples I've seen. About as convincing as a bad wig.

@@petebeard The trainer controls how it works. It will only be used to do what you tell it to do. But in seconds. Every pixel still his work.

I've obviously been looking at the wrong stuff.

Thanks for the exhaustive response. All I meant was that as a portrayal of 6th century Britain its woefully inaccurate in historical terms. All else is speculation.

@@petebeard My observations were general, not aimed at your wording. I just like to air my own speculations. If anything, it would mean the usual 12th century setting was even more out of place.

@@pattheplanter Sorry if my reply sounded paranoid. I took it upon myself to grab hold of the wrong end of the stick.

@@petebeardA perfectly normal response to someone going off on (one of) his obsessions and ignoring the subject of the fascinating video.

Check out the Brandywine Museum, they have EVERYTHING.

Hello again and thanks a lot for your comments.I think the actual house is long gone but as Albert says there's plenty of his work to be seen - if you happen to be near Delaware, that is.

Thanks for the comment, although I'm not sure what you mean.

@@petebeardFor one thing, the Wikiquote entry on Howard Pyle needs expansion with wiki-love.

Sorry - not following the comment.

Thanks for your comment.

i love your video's. I just happen to have a book telling me this is from Edmund Dulac so i wondered. It was no criticism. So i started searching internet myself.. and i have to answer my own question. No it is from Howard Pyle. I found your video's - being an unsuccessful illustrator, i always wonder what it would take to be one...

Thanks for the comment and appreciation. The internet is a great resource but there is also a lot of false information about many things, including illustration. I'm glad you checked and found out the answer.

Thanks for letting me know that. I'm not sure I understand what a scam ad is but obviously Im not exactly thrilled about it. I dare say there's no way to stop it. And I must say I'm genuinely puzzled - if you're going to replicate somebody's voice why not use somebody famous?

@@petebeard I just mean ads that play before, during or after a youtube video that promote scam products or services with false or exaggerated claims. There’s a whole genre of these ads that try to convince the viewer that whatever they’re promoting is so revolutionary that it’s being suppressed by the the banks/Big Pharma/gas companies or whatever relevant establishment. There’s a subgenre of these ads for medical conditions. Whatever the condition the ads always follow the same pattern. They mention a condition, make a counter intuitive claim, say a doctor has discovered a revolutionary cure and then direct you to a website. In this case the condition was tinnitus. I’m afraid there’s not much that can be done about it. I’ve been reporting these scams to KZfaq and that doesn’t help. Celebrity voices also get used sometimes(Elon Musk for Crypto scams) but in this case I think they wanted a voice that sounds authoritative not to impersonate a celebrity. Next time I see the ad I’ll try to record it.

Thanks for the gag. You can't beat a good bottom joke.

Thanks for the comment - depressing but undoubtedly true.

Hello and I'm sorry that my channel is being used for such purposes. Frankly I would rather not have any ads at all but then I wouldn't even make the pittance that youtube pay me from the income the ads generate.